Chris Gayle - IPL legend and PSL reject

[Finisher]

 

[IndianFan2018]

View attachment 80912

Luke Ronchi - IPL Career 5 matches total 34 runs at whopping average of 6.8 runs per innings. (This is when Ronchi was regular International player)

PSL 2018 - 11 matches total 435 runs at 40 runs per innings (After retirement)

So your showing some screen shot ?

 

[IndianFan2018]

 

[Finisher]

Luke Ronchi - IPL Career 5 matches total 34 runs at whopping average of 6.8 runs per innings. (This is when Ronchi was regular International player)

PSL 2018 - 11 matches total 435 runs at 40 runs per innings (After retirement)

So your showing some screen shot ?

Why don't u make a separate thread on Luke Ronchi?
As you can see this thread is about Chris Gayle

 

[IndianFan2018]

Why don't u make a separate thread on Luke Ronchi?
As you can see this thread is about Chris Gayle

Bro already enough useless threads have been created for IPL vs PSL topic, don't want to add one more.

When someone reducles IPL with Gayle scoring, isn't it obvious to counter the same with discarded player Luke Ronchi's awesome record in PSL 2018.

Can't you see the comparison is opt ?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol what? Even this thread is filled with Indian posters making up lies to take shots at PSL, not to mention countless other post throughout the forum . Try to read more closely next time.

Most Pakistanis claim not have watched the IPL. Yet keep talking about it.

 

[Finisher]

Bro already enough useless threads have been created for IPL vs PSL topic, don't want to add one more.

When someone reducles IPL with Gayle scoring, isn't it obvious to counter the same with discarded player Luke Ronchi's awesome record in PSL 2018.

Can't you see the comparison is opt ?

Not really since Gayle is till date the greatest t20 gatsman and Luke Ronchi's case could be similar to someone like Paul Valtathy( Remember him?).
One season wonders.

 

[IndianFan2018]

Not really since Gayle is till date the greatest t20 gatsman and Luke Ronchi's case could be similar to someone like Paul Valtathy( Remember him?).
One season wonders.

See the table I posted... Except Babar all others are TTF's

 

[IndianFan2018]

Not really since Gayle is till date the greatest t20 gatsman and Luke Ronchi's case could be similar to someone like Paul Valtathy( Remember him?).
One season wonders.

Gayle is no Luke Ronchi or Akmla family level batsman, is T20 legend with 21 T20 hundreds world wide.

Pak fans with mediocre batting history talking lightly about legend is really biggest IRONY

 

[IndianFan2018]

Not really since Gayle is till date the greatest t20 gatsman and Luke Ronchi's case could be similar to someone like Paul Valtathy( Remember him?).
One season wonders.

IIRC Paul Vaulthy played few good innings ...but not leading scorer of the season for sure, unlike PSL Legend Luke Ronchi.

You are comparing Oranges with Apples

 

[Finisher]

IIRC Paul Vaulthy played few good innings ...but not leading scorer of the season for sure, unlike PSL Legend Luke Ronchi.

You are comparing Oranges with Apples

Like I said this thread is about Chris Gayle, and if u want to start making silly comparison why don't u tell me who has bowled the most dot balls and most maidens in IPL history?

 

[barah_admi]

Indians to jal gaya!

AAG AAG!

Bottom line is, Gayle has been a joke of a batsman for almost 2+ years yet he walks into the IPL, after being rejected twice in the auction and smashes a huge score, with runs against one of the Afghan stooges.

The Indian dream is falling apart

 

[IndianFan2018]

Like I said this thread is about Chris Gayle, and if u want to start making silly comparison why don't u tell me who has bowled the most dot balls and most maidens in IPL history?

Bro... If Gayle is IPL legend so is Luke Ronchi/Kamran Akmal are PSL legends.

OP should have thought about it before creating this thread !

PS: you took Paul valauthy name first. Stick to topic then.

 

[kuskash]

Irony. Matlab jaantay ho is lafz ka?

No one can better demonstrates iska matlab more than Pak posters.

 

[Smbhayi]

As expected. I think you have an issue in comprehending what is being said and forming arguments. A lot of what you post are inane rants rather than analysis. You don't deserve to be trolled right now, seeing as how maasoom you are.

Gayle is an IPL star and a PSL reject. That is a fact and I doubt it would change in the future.

fact also says that almost every PSL legends are IPL rejects.

 

[UN talkz]

Bro... If Gayle is IPL legend so is Luke Ronchi/Kamran Akmal are PSL legends.

OP should have thought about it before creating this thread !

PS: you took Paul valauthy name first. Stick to topic then.

But this thread isn't about Kami or Ronchi; it is about Gayle

 

[UN talkz]

Like I said this thread is about Chris Gayle, and if u want to start making silly comparison why don't u tell me who has bowled the most dot balls and most maidens in IPL history?

I guess it's Praveen Kumar

 

[Send1983]

As expected. I think you have an issue in comprehending what is being said and forming arguments. A lot of what you post are inane rants rather than analysis. You don't deserve to be trolled right now, seeing as how maasoom you are.

Gayle is an IPL star and a PSL reject. That is a fact and I doubt it would change in the future.

Not sure who has the comprehending issue. I was clearly explaining why Gayle was first of all not the PSL reject rather he did not want to play for the price lower than his min price. Second he was failing not only in PSL those two years, he failed everywhere. You had no answer, rather you kept saying ipl legend and PSL reject. Also called my explanation as excuse. Anyway keep trolling.

 

[IndianFan2018]

But this thread isn't about Kami or Ronchi; it is about Gayle

... Use Gayle as bait to get reactions and degrade IPL. As counter, Indian fans will give examples of PSL TTF's. All in good banter ... If some one gives, should take back criticism as well

Title uses PSL name ..hence topics from PSL come as arguments.

 

[IndianFan2018]

I guess it's Praveen Kumar

Yea thought so, you have good memory of all stats ..kudos

 

[cricketjoshila]

But this thread isn't about Kami or Ronchi; it is about Gayle

Its about PSL and IPL.

 

[cricketjoshila]

From when PSL has become measure of standard for players calibre ..lol, only in PP

If not being picked in PSL makes Gayle a PSL reject, not being on the "Play list" of top players from Aus NZ SA India make PSL?

 

[Usman Chadda]

Not sure who has the comprehending issue. I was clearly explaining why Gayle was first of all not the PSL reject rather he did not want to play for the price lower than his min price. Second he was failing not only in PSL those two years, he failed everywhere. You had no answer, rather you kept saying ipl legend and PSL reject. Also called my explanation as excuse. Anyway keep trolling.

Gayle should have been picked regardless, had he performed at an acceptable level. What we got was a tail-ender who was learning how to play spin for the first time. I would know, he was picked for my team Karachi Kings in the first season.

Doesn't matter what are the reasons behind Gayle's exclusion from PSL. Its clear the owners lost faith in his ability to deliver on the money they spend on him. Thus, rejected.

BTW, besides Big Bash not inviting him due to obvious reasons, PSL is the only league where a franchise did not pick up Gayle. Thus, rejected.

I'm not in favour of IPL vs PSL discussions tbh, I'm just arguing on the facts. And the fact is Gayle is a PSL reject and an IPL star. Indians hilariously trying to deny the point being made is well, hilarious. A past it Azhar Mahmood has played the IPL for whichever team, so before you lecture PSL fans for every Ramdin there was in the tournament, have a look at yourself first.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Gayle should have been picked regardless, had he performed at an acceptable level. What we got was a tail-ender who was learning how to play spin for the first time. I would know, he was picked for my team Karachi Kings in the first season.

Doesn't matter what are the reasons behind Gayle's exclusion from PSL. Its clear the owners lost faith in his ability to deliver on the money they spend on him. Thus, rejected.

BTW, besides Big Bash not inviting him due to obvious reasons, PSL is the only league where a franchise did not pick up Gayle. Thus, rejected.

I'm not in favour of IPL vs PSL discussions tbh, I'm just arguing on the facts. And the fact is Gayle is a PSL reject and an IPL star. Indians hilariously trying to deny the point being made is well, hilarious. A past it Azhar Mahmood has played the IPL for whichever team, so before you lecture PSL fans for every Ramdin there was in the tournament, have a look at yourself first.

Entire Pakistan team was rejected in the IPL auction, wasnt it? Does that make them rejects?

PSL isnt on the list of most top players of Aus SA NZ India. What reject is psl?


IPL teams can take risks on players by paying $300k.Thats why he was picked up at the end of the auction as a wild card.PSL teams dont have that kind of money. They cant pick up a risky $150k player.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Bravo Russel etc didnt play psl to get themselves fit for IPL. So PSL rejected by them?

 

[Syed1]

Another blistering innings by PSL reject and IPL legend Chris Gayle going on right now

 

[cricketjoshila]

Another blistering innings by PSL reject and IPL legend Chris Gayle going on right now

If only PSL teams could pay $300k and take such risks. Small purse and financial constraints of PSL.

PSL's profit 5mn. Kohli's yearly income 20mn.

 

[Syed1]

If only PSL teams could pay $300k and take such risks. Small purse and financial constraints of PSL.

PSL's profit 5mn. Kohli's yearly income 20mn.

Why we should pay that much for a failure player? Don't throw your toys out of the pram child

 

[Send1983]

Entire Pakistan team was rejected in the IPL auction, wasnt it? Does that make them rejects?

PSL isnt on the list of most top players of Aus SA NZ India. What reject is psl?


IPL teams can take risks on players by paying $300k.Thats why he was picked up at the end of the auction as a wild card.PSL teams dont have that kind of money. They cant pick up a risky $150k player.

This is what I have been explaining in this thread. This guy didn’t get it rather telling me I have comprehending issue. PSL could not pick him as a platinum player. Gayle was not ready to play as a lower category player, otherwise obviously PSL would have picked Gayle over Ramdin and other mediocre players.

Yes if we go by his or OP logic whole Pak team is IPL reject and afghan players like Rashid and Mujeeb are IPL legends. That’s embarrassing for pak team. Players from Minnows Afghan and Nepal were picked over Pak players.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why we should pay that much for a failure player? Don't throw your toys out of the pram child

I know they cant. They simply dont have the money. But IPL teams can as they have the money and take the risk. If Gayle can score in 3 out of 14 matches it will probably win them those matches.

I know it hurts that PSL is such a small league in front of Ipl. But thats how it is.

 

[Send1983]

Gayle should have been picked regardless, had he performed at an acceptable level. What we got was a tail-ender who was learning how to play spin for the first time. I would know, he was picked for my team Karachi Kings in the first season.

Doesn't matter what are the reasons behind Gayle's exclusion from PSL. Its clear the owners lost faith in his ability to deliver on the money they spend on him. Thus, rejected.

BTW, besides Big Bash not inviting him due to obvious reasons, PSL is the only league where a franchise did not pick up Gayle. Thus, rejected.

I'm not in favour of IPL vs PSL discussions tbh, I'm just arguing on the facts. And the fact is Gayle is a PSL reject and an IPL star. Indians hilariously trying to deny the point being made is well, hilarious. A past it Azhar Mahmood has played the IPL for whichever team, so before you lecture PSL fans for every Ramdin there was in the tournament, have a look at yourself first.

You are still repeating the same. Beggars can’t be choosers. PSL hardly has any star overseas players. All top overseas stars rejected PSL. They want overseas stars badly. Paying 150k+ was little too much for PSL as Gayle’s form was bad for 2 yrs. but If Gayle was ready to play for much lower price, PSL would have picked him just for his star value. Trust me, if he had great IPL last year PSL would have picked him this year even as a platinum player. Anyway you won’t get it.

What is wrong in azhar mahmood playing for Punjab. He did well in English county prior to that. he was still one of the good and experienced t20 players. They tried him, he didn’t do well, they threw him out. IPL teams have money, they can gamble. Sometimes it works (Gayle this season) and sometimes it doesn’t (youvraj and Unatkad this season, negi last season)

 

[Titan24]

Entire Pakistan team was rejected in the IPL auction, wasnt it? Does that make them rejects?

PSL isnt on the list of most top players of Aus SA NZ India. What reject is psl?


IPL teams can take risks on players by paying $300k.Thats why he was picked up at the end of the auction as a wild card.PSL teams dont have that kind of money. They cant pick up a risky $150k player.

By this logic entire Indian team was also rejected in the PSL draft. However if you will be a little less joshila and realize that none of the players were either in the auction or in the draft on both sides.

Each team in PSL had 3 platinum players which were being paid around $220,000 so it turns out Gayle was not selected in those 18 player. Why would any PSL franchise would even buy him when he struggles for whatever reason in PSL, does nothing with the bat and a liability in the field. Its understandable as well as he is almost 40 and him performing in IPL is different thing altogether.

 

[aniket1911]

So there was lot of factual information thrown at Indians. So, after some googling.....

OMG ) ) )

List of Pakistani players who put forward their name forward in 2010 IPL auctions and were rejected just for chutzpah by the IPL.

Mohammed Amir, Shahid Afridi, Shahzad Ahmed, Saeed Ajmal, Umar Akmal, Umar Gul, Misbah-ul-haq, Fawad Alam, Yasir Arafat, Mohammad Asif, Salman Butt, Imran Farhat, Mohammad Hafeez, Yasir Hameed, Faisal Iqbal, Asim Kamal, Danish Kaneria, Mohammad Khalil, Abdur Rauf, Khalid Latif, Shoaib Malik, Khurram Manzoor, Saqlain Mushtaq, Rana Naved-ul-Hasan, Imran Nazir, Abdul Razzaq, Mohammad Sami and many more.

So another factual information for us triggered Indian fans that Shahid Afridi is Pakistan legend and IPL reject and so is going to be the case with mohammad Amir.

I am actually little more proud of IPL now knowing, almost entire Pakistan team was filled with IPL rejects.

 

[aniket1911]

By this logic entire Indian team was also rejected in the PSL draft. However if you will be a little less joshila and realize that none of the players were either in the auction or in the draft on both sides.

Each team in PSL had 3 platinum players which were being paid around $220,000 so it turns out Gayle was not selected in those 18 player. Why would any PSL franchise would even buy him when he struggles for whatever reason in PSL, does nothing with the bat and a liability in the field. Its understandable as well as he is almost 40 and him performing in IPL is different thing altogether.

Read my post above.

Hint: No Indians registered for PSL draft.

 

[hadi123]

Guys! Stay on topic and do NOT get personal with each other. If rules aren't followed, there will be bans!

 

[cricketjoshila]

By this logic entire Indian team was also rejected in the PSL draft. However if you will be a little less joshila and realize that none of the players were either in the auction or in the draft on both sides.

Each team in PSL had 3 platinum players which were being paid around $220,000 so it turns out Gayle was not selected in those 18 player. Why would any PSL franchise would even buy him when he struggles for whatever reason in PSL, does nothing with the bat and a liability in the field. Its understandable as well as he is almost 40 and him performing in IPL is different thing altogether.

Indian players never signed up for PSL drafts. Pakistani players signed up for IPL auctions and not picked in season 3. Pakistani players have time and again showed willingness to play in the ipl.

Platinum was $140-150k this year. Not 220k.

Yes you are right. PSL teams can pick only 2 players at that price and then they have to go lower in price terms.And Gayle doesnot come at cheap prices.

But IPL teams can pick Gayle at 300k and take a punt see if it comes off. PSL teams dont have that capacity. If it was a $10k player they could have taken a punt as well.

 

[jnaveen1980]

So anyone who did not play in PSL are low class players lol Thanks for the conclusion.

 

[kuskash]

By this logic entire Indian team was also rejected in the PSL draft. However if you will be a little less joshila and realize that none of the players were either in the auction or in the draft on both sides.

Each team in PSL had 3 platinum players which were being paid around $220,000 so it turns out Gayle was not selected in those 18 player. Why would any PSL franchise would even buy him when he struggles for whatever reason in PSL, does nothing with the bat and a liability in the field. Its understandable as well as he is almost 40 and him performing in IPL is different thing altogether.

Do you really think Indian players were rejected by PSL? Kohli alone can run PSL from his own pocket for 10 years or more, lol.
Under 19 players are getting sold for more in IPL than platinun players of PSL.

 

[Josh]

Moral of the story
Gayle is PSL reject and IPL legend.
Ronchi is a IPL reject and PSL legend.

So considering bowling genius of PSL.

Ronchi >>>>>> Gayle

 

[Darkrai]

I'm looking at the score card and i must say why is bowling so rubbish in IPL? What is this high school club bowling? Embarrassing bowling standards at all. At least create decent pitches instead of these roads, clearly the bowlers aren't skilled enough to bowl on such flat-tracks. No wonder Gayle spanks everyone.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Entire Pakistan team was rejected in the IPL auction, wasnt it? Does that make them rejects?

PSL isnt on the list of most top players of Aus SA NZ India. What reject is psl?


IPL teams can take risks on players by paying $300k.Thats why he was picked up at the end of the auction as a wild card.PSL teams dont have that kind of money. They cant pick up a risky $150k player.

What kind of nonsense is this? Pakistan players were not picked due to a very obvious reason. There is absolutely no comparison between what's happened to Gayle in the PSL and what went on with the Pakistani players.

And why wouldn't any franchise pick Gayle if he was good enough? 300k or 150k, the fact is he is one of T20's best entertainers in every league in the world beside PSL. Basically what you are saying is Gayle is still rubbish, an IPL team picked him up as a gamble, yet he has proceeded to railroad pretty much every attack he has played so far in the IPL. A gamble pays off once or maybe twice, it doesn't destroy bowling attacks everytime it steps out on the cricket field.

The fact is he hasn't performed in the PSL AT ALL, in fact he was woeful to say the least. One Ramdin innings in the PSL final was better than what Gayle managed in two entire seasons of the PSL. Owners lost confidence in his performances and attitude. That fact is well known in Pakistan cricket circles, which you have no idea about. This rubbish about franchises not being able to afford him is only parrotted by some disgruntled Indians on this forum, who have no knowledge and no idea about the ground realities of Pakistan cricket.

 

[Darkrai]

I'm looking at the score card and i must say why is bowling so rubbish in IPL? What is this high school club bowling? Embarrassing bowling standards at all. At least create decent pitches instead of these roads, clearly the bowlers aren't skilled enough to bowl on such flat-tracks. No wonder Gayle spanks everyone.

*Embarrassing bowling standards.
Gayle missed out on a century due to rain...

 

[Peshwa]

*Embarrassing bowling standards.
Gayle missed out on a century due to rain...

Thanx for the updates bro
I have deleted Cricbuzz app from my cell
Now a days i turn to PP to get score updates
Great to see Pakistani viewers following IPL So keenly...

 

[Peshwa]

*Embarrassing bowling standards.
Gayle missed out on a century due to rain...

You are only posting
You are only replying to ur post aggrieng to ur own comments
Obsession at its peak

 

[Darkrai]

Thanx for the updates bro
I have deleted Cricbuzz app from my cell
Now a days i turn to PP to get score updates
Great to see Pakistani viewers following IPL So keenly...

No problem. Happy to help.

 

[Peshwa]

No problem. Happy to help.

I appreciate

 

[Send1983]

You are only posting
You are only replying to ur post aggrieng to ur own comments
Obsession at its peak

Why are you entertaining him dude? While whole India is having fun watching the IPL with BIG overseas stars playing in front of full house stadium and 60+ yards boundaries.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Moral of the story
Gayle is PSL reject and IPL legend.
Ronchi is a IPL reject and PSL legend.

So considering bowling genius of PSL.

Ronchi >>>>>> Gayle

lol Using the same logic Gayle's ODI average against Afghanistan and Ireland is worse than against Pakistan. Hence Ireland/Afghanistan > Pakistan. This the kind of dumb logic some has to resort to feel good about their league.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Thanx for the updates bro
I have deleted Cricbuzz app from my cell
Now a days i turn to PP to get score updates
Great to see Pakistani viewers following IPL So keenly...

Ironically, these same fans claims that they dont follow IPL, and yet here they are creating threads after threads about IPL. I wonder do they get dreams at night about quality of IPL, since they dont actually follow it? Or they secretly follow IPL but dont wanna admit it?

 

[Peshwa]

Ironically, these same fans claims that they dont follow IPL, and yet here they are creating threads after threads about IPL. I wonder do they get dreams at night about quality of IPL, since they dont actually follow it? Or they secretly follow IPL but dont wanna admit it?

Its all about insecurity and childish attempts to degrade IPL i dont understand for what reason
I have hardly came across any Indian posters who trying hard to claimed that they dont watch PSL and made threads after threads to mock PSL..and here we have many posters jumping on thread with joy every time galyle score some runs in IPL..bcoz with thr great logic ATG gayle is PSL reject and in whichever league he performed that league will become inferior to PSL..

 

[CanadianG00se]

Its all about insecurity and childish attempts to degrade IPL i dont understand for what reason
I have hardly came across any Indian posters who trying hard to claimed that they dont watch PSL and made threads after threads to mock PSL..and here we have many posters jumping on thread with joy every time galyle score some runs in IPL..bcoz with thr great logic ATG gayle is PSL reject and in whichever league he performed that league will become inferior to PSL..

And the same set of fans were silent when IPL reject Ronchi was taking apart so called phasssttt bowlers in PSL.

 

[Darkrai]

I doubt people are trying to degrade IPL. Everyone has opinions, if you don't agree that's fine.

I guess people have different ideas when comes to the "quality" of cricket. For me, if bowlers are being taken apart every other game then the quality is clearly not there because bowling is an essential part of cricket. If you only want to see batsmen score big and bowlers consistently conceding 50+ runs in an inning then yes IPL would be the best for you. I personally prefer batsmen having to work hard for their runs, then the quality knocks really stand out. And of course you get great bowling performances as well. A balance between bat and ball, the way it should be imo. But if you wanna see cricket becoming stick cricket then that different.

I can't speak for everyone else but i do not watch IPL, i go to espncric website often and they have the scorecards for every watch. One doesn't have to watch to notice the quality of cricket, scorecards can just as easily indicate that. It's not just IPL, i do not watch any other leagues besides PSL of course. PSL is a big reason that i follow cricket now.

 

[kuskash]

Number of posts and threads by Pak posters about IPL >>>number of posts and threads about PSL

But as per Pak posters, "we do not follow IPL", lol.

 

[Darkrai]

Number of posts and threads by Pak posters about IPL >>>number of posts and threads about PSL

But as per Pak posters, "we do not follow IPL", lol.

Maybe they do not watch it but read the scorecards. Of course everything is always on the media. If that's considered "following" then yes i bet most people look at the scorecards and read twitter/facebook.

 

[cricketjoshila]

PSL reject ABDV scores a rollicking 80 odd to win it for rcb.

 

[daytrader]

Number of posts and threads by Pak posters about IPL >>>number of posts and threads about PSL

But as per Pak posters, "we do not follow IPL", lol.

Number of Indian posters on a Pakistani forum >>>>>> number of Pak posters...

So who's obsessed with who?

 

[daytrader]

PSL reject ABDV scores a rollicking 80 odd to win it for rcb.

Yup thrashed worldclass bowlers today like Dennis Tewatia and Malcolm Patel

 

[Slog]

PSL reject ABDV scores a rollicking 80 odd to win it for rcb.

AB never entered PSL draft and certainly never failed there so the statement makes no sense.

However it is a fact that Gayle failed for two seasons and then was rejected by PSL teams

No need for sour grapes because thread title is based on factual events .

 

[Slog]

Number of posts and threads by Pak posters about IPL >>>number of posts and threads about PSL

But as per Pak posters, "we do not follow IPL", lol.

Lol most certainly not true

I'm guessing you are very bad at counting.

During PSL there were probably 15+ new PSL threads per day whereas there's barely 15 total threads on IPL this season.

I guess you made this up and started believing it with no evidence just like how you don't believe the simple fact that Gayle is a PSL reject and failure

 

[CanadianG00se]

Lol most certainly not true

I'm guessing you are very bad at counting.

During PSL there were probably 15+ new PSL threads per day whereas there's barely 15 total threads on IPL this season.

I guess you made this up and started believing it with no evidence just like how you don't believe the simple fact that Gayle is a PSL reject and failure

What he meant is that some posters claimed to not follow IPL and yet goes on to create a thread about its quality, whereas during PSL it wasnt the case. Non Psl viewer werent that bothered with it, and most of threads on PSL were by Pakistani fans discussing on how to improve further. Constructive crictism is understandable and can be good for discussion, however with related to IPL more often than not its just blind hate and have no relevance to reality.

As far as your last statement, its true that Gayle was failure in PSL and was rejected for 3rd season, similar to how Ronchi have be superstar in PSL but was utter failure in IPL. I cant even remember when was the last time he played IPL. And yes dont even get me started on Boparas and Samit Patel.

 

[kuskash]

Lol most certainly not true

I'm guessing you are very bad at counting.

During PSL there were probably 15+ new PSL threads per day whereas there's barely 15 total threads on IPL this season.

I guess you made this up and started believing it with no evidence just like how you don't believe the simple fact that Gayle is a PSL reject and failure

Brother seriously I do not care Gayle is star of which league and reject from which league. I am not even an Indian. But as outsider posters, we all know IPL is miles and miles ahead no matter how you see. I hope PSL progresses so much that it gives IPL run for its money. I was just disgusted to see Pak posters' jealousy towards IPL.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Brother seriously I do not care Gayle is star of which league and reject from which league. I am not even an Indian. But as outsider posters, we all know IPL is miles and miles ahead no matter how you see. I hope PSL progresses so much that it gives IPL run for its money. I was just disgusted to see Pak posters' jealousy towards IPL.

I'm a Pakistani and I don't have any qualms in admitting IPL is head and shoulders above any league in the world. PSL is taking its baby steps, but I doubt it will ever come close to matching the IPL in terms of stature. However, I have a bone to pick with some shodaybaaz Indian fans on this forum acting all high and mighty, while consistently putting down any other league. We don't troll the humble Indian fans on here.

Also Indian fans were ruthless during the PSL, along with some of our psuedo-Pakistanis. If you can dish it, learn to take it too.

 

[Josh]

lol Using the same logic Gayle's ODI average against Afghanistan and Ireland is worse than against Pakistan. Hence Ireland/Afghanistan > Pakistan. This the kind of dumb logic some has to resort to feel good about their league.

Let's look at the few points below and arrive at the conclusion.

1) Ronchi in IPL 5 matches 34 runs and Ronchi wasn't selected further anymore

2) Ronchi in PSL 2017 11 matches 435 runs

3) Gayle was rejected in PSL 3 because of his failure in previous edition

4) Gayle is scoring lots of 50s in IPL this year


Which means Pakistani bowlers at present >>>>>>> Indian bowlers (since Gayle can't find a place)

But when Luke Ronchi couldn't score at IPL 2009

Indian bowlers of that time >>>>>> Pakistani bowlers

So at present Pakistani bowlers are better since Gayle wasn't selected.

 

[Rana]

Last season teams got bowled out for 49, 58, 66, 67,73 . So you cannot say batting is easy. Pakistan's best strike for a player in T20 is Afridi 150. But average is 18. KL Rahul average 45 strike rate 145. Kohli average 50 strike rate 137. Pakistan batsmen don't have great strike rates in general. Those who have good strike also have poor average. I am pretty sure even Pak fans agree how slow the approach of Pakistan batsmen in general is. Most of them are technically poor and also they are not smooth timers of the ball. Their bowling is good. But that is not the reason why PSL has low scores. Slow nature of pitch and general lack of skills with bat is the reason why scores are low.

Very good post. Hard to disagree.

The day Pakistan find a batsman who strikes at 150 and averages 40 is going to be a blessed day. The sad thing is that Umar Akmal could have been that player for them. Also, I am starting to get the impression that although Fakhar is good, his strike rate is just about par with the good players of big teams, but nothing extra ordinary

 

[cricketjoshila]

Number of Indian posters on a Pakistani forum >>>>>> number of Pak posters...

So who's obsessed with who?

How many active Indian posters are there on PP? 20? 30?

 

[cricketjoshila]

AB never entered PSL draft and certainly never failed there so the statement makes no sense.

However it is a fact that Gayle failed for two seasons and then was rejected by PSL teams

No need for sour grapes because thread title is based on factual events .

PSL didnot find ABDV good enough to be entered into PSL drafts. He is a PSL reject.

 

[Peshwa]

PSL didnot find ABDV good enough to be entered into PSL drafts. He is a PSL reject.

What about Mitchell Johnson and Andrew Russel

 

[Arham_PakFan]

So for people who are not interested in reading 8 pages of this useless thread let me sum it up:

Pakistani fans - Gayle failed in PSL however he is a legend in iPL.. Hence Indian bowlers are trundles Pakistani bowlers are phaaasssssttt.. PSL >>>> IPL

Indian fans - Best batsmen in PSL are Akmals, Shehzad and rejects like ronchis.. Hence IPL >>>>>>> PSL

Repeat the above two points for 8 pages..

/thread

Good summary.I personally don't think there is much debate.Gayle failed for 2 seasons in PSL with 2 different teams so there was no reason to pick him.He was picked as a risk by the Punjab team.The risk paid off and he is doing well.

 

[MMHS]

Regardless of form or past performance (in PSL), investing on CG in T20 is always a risk worth taking. He is a player who can win a T20 alone from any position. I think, not hiring CG actually exposes the short slightness of PSL and lack of batting understanding of the think tank. They are paying a Diamond contract to Misbah and Gold contract to Ramdhin, Smith ..... therefore, I think paying even a Diamond contract of $185K (I hear the range between $140K to $230K from different sources - I took the average) would have been money well spent.

4 to advance from 6 teams, the gap between last qualifier and 5th team was just 1 point, and I think CG is more than valuable to win or set up couple of games almost alone in 10 tries - that's 4 points.

 

[mankuTimma]

A legend with an average of 29 and SR of 133 in PSL? I don't think so buddy.

That’s more than enough to become legend in PSL,I guess he is the highest scorer in PSL history.

 

[mankuTimma]

So for people who are not interested in reading 8 pages of this useless thread let me sum it up:

Pakistani fans - Gayle failed in PSL however he is a legend in iPL.. Hence Indian bowlers are trundles Pakistani bowlers are phaaasssssttt.. PSL >>>> IPL

Indian fans - Best batsmen in PSL are Akmals, Shehzad and rejects like ronchis.. Hence IPL >>>>>>> PSL

Repeat the above two points for 8 pages..

/thread

Actually Indian fans or for that matter any cricket fans knows IPL>>>>>>>>>>PSL,just showing how same rules some posters apply here can be used for PSL as well

 

[kuskash]

Regardless of form or past performance (in PSL), investing on CG in T20 is always a risk worth taking. He is a player who can win a T20 alone from any position. I think, not hiring CG actually exposes the short slightness of PSL and lack of batting understanding of the think tank. They are paying a Diamond contract to Misbah and Gold contract to Ramdhin, Smith ..... therefore, I think paying even a Diamond contract of $185K (I hear the range between $140K to $230K from different sources - I took the average) would have been money well spent.

4 to advance from 6 teams, the gap between last qualifier and 5th team was just 1 point, and I think CG is more than valuable to win or set up couple of games almost alone in 10 tries - that's 4 points.

This much logic would be digested here, I doubt.

 

[Send1983]

Regardless of form or past performance (in PSL), investing on CG in T20 is always a risk worth taking. He is a player who can win a T20 alone from any position. I think, not hiring CG actually exposes the short slightness of PSL and lack of batting understanding of the think tank. They are paying a Diamond contract to Misbah and Gold contract to Ramdhin, Smith ..... therefore, I think paying even a Diamond contract of $185K (I hear the range between $140K to $230K from different sources - I took the average) would have been money well spent.

4 to advance from 6 teams, the gap between last qualifier and 5th team was just 1 point, and I think CG is more than valuable to win or set up couple of games almost alone in 10 tries - that's 4 points.

Was Gayle ready to play for anything less than platinum? None of us clearly know what really happened between Gayle and PSL.


If Gayle was so particular about platinum category, then he should be blamed as well partly.

For IPL, he was only asking for lowest level price. Shewag had a same thought as yours. He gambled and picked him.

 

[mankuTimma]

Was Gayle ready to play for anything less than platinum? None of us clearly know what really happened between Gayle and PSL.


If Gayle was so particular about platinum category, then he should be blamed as well partly.

For IPL, he was only asking for lowest level price. Shewag had a same thought as yours. He gambled and picked him.

It’s not lowest level,it’s stnadard top foreign player base price.Gayle is atleast worth the base price.

 

[MMHS]

Was Gayle ready to play for anything less than platinum? None of us clearly know what really happened between Gayle and PSL.


If Gayle was so particular about platinum category, then he should be blamed as well partly.

For IPL, he was only asking for lowest level price. Shewag had a same thought as yours. He gambled and picked him.

I think, Diamond is the highest slab.

Coming to your question, if PCB keeps arranging PSL 2 weeks before IPL with a fixed cap for foreigners; gradually no player will play in PSL (Players those already have an IPL contract). I don't think, I need to explain why - similar time last year, I explained in details which league players will choose - BPL or SAF global league; and certainly that's not for the love of fish dishes.

 

[MMHS]

This much logic would be digested here, I doubt.

CG is the Gary Sobers of T20 - doesn't matter what he did in PSL.

 

[Slim]

CG is the Gary Sobers of T20 - doesn't matter what he did in PSL.

Gary Sobers of t20? You do realize Gary Sobers was an all rounder? And gayle is someone who cannot even bat properly let alone bowl. This statement is a joke.

And why doesnt it matter? It clear shows how much of a failure Gayle is. Cannot believe i have to explain this to someone.

 

[Rishta Aunty]

Gayle is the T20 GOAT. 21 centuries overall in the format. He has nothing left to prove in his career. Just because he played at the fag end of his career in the PSL and didn't do well doesn't change that. He's done it against the best bowlers in the IPL in the past which is enough.

 

[kuskash]

Gayle is the T20 GOAT. 21 centuries overall in the format. He has nothing left to prove in his career. Just because he played at the fag end of his career in the PSL and didn't do well doesn't change that. He's done it against the best bowlers in the IPL in the past which is enough.

Hello aunty, good point.

 

[Send1983]

Gayle is the T20 GOAT. 21 centuries overall in the format. He has nothing left to prove in his career. Just because he played at the fag end of his career in the PSL and didn't do well doesn't change that. He's done it against the best bowlers in the IPL in the past which is enough.

Good sensible post. You won’t find any answer from folks who are gloating about GAyle’s failure in PSL.