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Comfortable four wicket victory for England in 2nd ODI against Pakistan

Azhar ko niklo

We were sixth ranked before him coming. Pakistan had a wonderful streak against Bangladesh, that was broken and also were humilated under his captaincy in that series.

Worst captain of Pakistan

We will reach Kenya level If he continues to lead

Captain would make no difference; God would have trouble winning with this team. Garbage batting, worst fielding across all test teams, and average bowlers outside Amir.
 
This team is by far the worst ODI team I've seen from Pak, Misbah's ODI team had more venom and that says something.
 
England is a brilliant team

We have dud like Malik, Hafeez, Azhar as senior men :facepalm:
 
Captain would make no difference; God would have trouble winning with this team. Garbage batting, worst fielding across all test teams, and average bowlers outside Amir.

If you have a batsman like him leading your ODI then you aspire no confidence. Sarfraz plays like a leader and he should be the captain.
 
Hopefully England will win the toss and bat first next game , otherwise it'll be exactly the same pattern of play again
 
Yes! We'll only lose by 6 wickets now. What a performance lads.
 
If you have a batsman like him leading your ODI then you aspire no confidence. Sarfraz plays like a leader and he should be the captain.

I cannot disagree with opinion but facts are that Pakistani people are general delusional. Going into the series, any odds maker has England HUGE favourites. You are just expecting a miracle and disappointed in did not happen. Come back to reality and realize the facts. Facts are this team is crap on paper, and any win they get is a huge upset. We will be lucky to beat any top 8 ODI team outside Bangladesh.
 
Nasser Hussain is completely right about our team, Azhar is a predictable captain, Pak playing old fashioned cricket, nothing exciting about our squad, England are very strong etc.
 
1. How many bouncers, yorkers, cutters, slower balls, slow bouncers, back of the hand balls have we bowled so far?
2. How many unorthodox bowling options have we tried?
3. How many unusual field setting have been tried? In-out fields?
4. One over spells?

How did our captain force a change in course of the match?
 
I cannot disagree with opinion but facts are that Pakistani people are general delusional. Going into the series, any odds maker has England HUGE favourites. You are just expecting a miracle and disappointed in did not happen. Come back to reality and realize the facts. Facts are this team is crap on paper, and any win they get is a huge upset. We will be lucky to beat any top 8 ODI team outside Bangladesh.

Azhar is a crap captain as well, I have seen enough of his feild setting.

Azhar, Hafeez and Malik should be dropped that would be a start
 
Nasser Hussain is completely right about our team, Azhar is a predictable captain, Pak playing old fashioned cricket, nothing exciting about our squad, England are very strong etc.

Yup, nailed it, especially the last point. Our team is crap. If any England batsman scores a 100, you can guarantee it will be at a SR over 100. Sarfraz inning was great, but even that is not good enough in the modern game, it only gets you to 250, but to win, you need 300+ with the bat consistently.
 
Yup, nailed it, especially the last point. Our team is crap. If any England batsman scores a 100, you can guarantee it will be at a SR over 100. Sarfraz inning was great, but even that is not good enough in the modern game, it only gets you to 250, but to win, you need 300+ with the bat consistently.

Sarfraz was going fine. Almost 100 SR. That's when wickets fell and he started blocking; to play 50 overs.
 
Azhar is a crap captain as well, I have seen enough of his feild setting.

Azhar, Hafeez and Malik should be dropped that would be a start

No, you misunderstand. I am not saying Azhar is a good captain; I agree he is nothing special. My point was that it would not matter who is captain at this stage. Our team and their mentality overall is crap.

We need to overhaul the entire mentality.
 
Captain would make no difference; God would have trouble winning with this team. Garbage batting, worst fielding across all test teams, and average bowlers outside Amir.

Yes, discrete changes won't produce wholesale change overnight. Therefore we might as well not make any changes at all. Just give up already.

Genius.
 
Yup, nailed it, especially the last point. Our team is crap. If any England batsman scores a 100, you can guarantee it will be at a SR over 100. Sarfraz inning was great, but even that is not good enough in the modern game, it only gets you to 250, but to win, you need 300+ with the bat consistently.

To be honest, most of our batsmen block balls just for the fun and culture of it, they're not playing a run-a-ball innings or at a slightly less SR since that's what's required. Like back in the day you'll see a scorecard from an ODI in 1990 where a Pak cricketer might have scored 70 from 130 balls, I think our batsmen are trying to replicate those types of innings and not getting on with it.
 
In the most unlikely event, I'll forgive this ODI team if we win the series 3-2, but that ain't happening. Winning series is more important than winning games
 
Sarfraz plays fast modern cricket he's among the rare batsmen in our side with a good strike rate.
 
Sarfraz was going fine. Almost 100 SR. That's when wickets fell and he started blocking; to play 50 overs.

Somebody else already stated this, so I do not want to take credit for it....

But why play defensive to get to 250, when you know it will only give you a 1% chance to win? Why not show some guts and go blazing for 300+ instead? If this was any other team and they had a batsman batting at 50+, he would cut loose and try for 300+. Only Pakistani players get scared about failure and want the minimum.

You also cannot argue Azhar is a defensive captain, which is bad, but then praise Sarfraz for being defensive with the bat.

Either you like defensive mentality, which is fine. But I do not, on a batting track, small boundaries, minimum should be 300.
 
Guys don't panic. This was the last series for most of the mediocre players.

Micky and Inzi will make quite a few changes from now on. I am sure a lot of inexperienced but talented players will be included for the WI series.

It will take at the least 12 months to undo the damage done to our ODI setup by the last coach(es)/captain.
 
We should thank Sarfaraz and Imad to loose the game with some respectability and that is what minnows want
 
In other news, India are having a sniff at chasing 245 in a T20 against WI
 
Guys don't panic. This was the last series for most of the mediocre players.

Micky and Inzi will make quite a few changes from now on. I am sure a lot of inexperienced but talented players will be included for the WI series.

It will take at the least 12 months to undo the damage done to our ODI setup by the last coach(es)/captain.

The problem is that all the good teams are good with YOUNG players. However, our young players are terrible. Outside Amir, there is nobody on this team I would pick for any ODI team in the world.

I do hope the mentality changes though. No more starting your innings scoring 18 from 33 like Imad did. Go out blazing, target should always be 300 on batting tracks.
 
We really need a fast bowling coach. Azhar Mahmood is rubbish!!! Mustaq should be in NCA not work as a coach
 
Mickey looks like he's gonna have a real go at everyone after the game
 
The bowlers are looking like they're giving up, just going back to their mark and bowling again, waiting for the game to be over
 
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