Amjid Javed
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If it wasnt for the FTP then pakistan would have no interest in playing bangladesh.
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Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) president Nazmul Hassan Papon has informed that the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) are more interested in hosting the Test series rather than the Twenty20 International series against Bangladesh.
"We have told PCB that we want to play three T20I's and then come back and then decide on the Tests. But they are more interested in hosting the Test series as part of the Test Championship," Nazmul said to the media at a press conference on Wednesday.
The BCB wanted to know if the players were willing to tour Pakistan and senior player Mushfiqur Rahim has expressed his desire to not tour; other senior players have also expressed a similar stance according to the board president.
"Mushfiqur Rahim has not shown keen interest in wanting to tour Pakistan along with some other players. We told PCB that and in reply they said that Bangladeshi players came here to play in the PSL for 35 days and they needed to stay here longer. So if there wasn't a problem then, why is there a problem now," Nazmul added.
Nazmul did express that the official decision on whether Bangladesh would tour Pakistan and how that would be would be made by Thursday.
"By tomorrow, we can come to a decision. We have spoken to agencies and the security is good from what we have seen. But most of the coaching staff aren't willing to go although the head coach is okay to travel for the T20I's."
Nazmul also added that he would be willing to see if the PCB were willing to see if they agree to hosting one Test initially instead of the T20I's: "Hosting one Test would be a good idea since they are interested in the Tests more and it would also mean the players have to stay there for a lesser time."
The BCB chief explained that staying in Pakistan under "high security and in that environment for a prolonged period was something that the players were against" and that is the main issue here.
https://tbsnews.net/sports/pakistan-more-interested-tests-t20is-nazmul
With Rahim, they are rubbish. Without Rahim, they might aswell not comeLooks like they are making up excuses now, earlier it was the entire coaching staff, now staff minus head coach. If an individual Rahim has a problem he can very well drop out, but Papon is using that excuse to withdraw the whole series.
With Rahim, they are rubbish. Without Rahim, they might aswell not come![]()
From above it seems that there is some worry from BCB about losing points in WTC which means that ICC could award points to Pakistan if Bangladesh dont go?
I thought only top 8 teams are part of WTC. How come Bangladesh is there? They are ranked 9th.
I honestly think playing the LOI series and then coming back for tests within a 12 month period is a sensible option.
Let’s think about this.
If England Australia or New Zealand proposed this we would be jumping for joy.
Sri Lanka proposed this and we gleefully accepted. But when BD suggest this as an option we start insulting and using pressure as if we are entitled to decide how another board operates.
Pakistan cricket wins no friends by acting in a stubborn and narrow minded way. The whole cricket world understands and sympathises with our predicament but a full test tour can’t be taken lightly.
We should recognise that small steps inching forward building on previous successes is the best way to re establish ourselves in world cricket. Build solid foundations and better organise our own home venues and security environment in the best way we can and the teams will come. No need to rush this. After years I finally got to see a Pakistan stadium and crowd on the tv screen and honestly even our own attendance and quality of stadiums was woeful.
Ditch these guys. I don't know why PCB is trusting them and getting hopes high. Don't expect any dignified independent decisions from these cowards. It's their loss. PCB should organise short England or NZ tour instead. Shouldn't be an issue.
PCB want to play the Tests first because we have less Tests scheduled as it is.
According to the latest rumours, it looks likely that the two Tests may be played during this tour with the T20Is scheduled for later in the year before the T20 World Cup.
BCB have decided to give a decision by next week. I thought PCB were organized but oh my in the past 2-3 weeks, BCB have shown how incompetent they can be.
Unconfirmed reports but seems to be the case.
My God PCB is weak - bending over backwards for a team that has barely won a dozen test matches in their entire existence.
The fact of the matter is PCB needs BCB, plain and simple. A successful tour by SL, and PSL being Pakistan will not convince England and Australia to tour Pakistan before 2030. And a lot can happen in 10 years to further erode those chances. Even a team like NZ or SA won't be convinced to tour Pakistan and those countries will be even more financially unattractive than BD team. BD team will at least bring their own companies in as sponsors, what will NZ and SA do?
BCB may be in the wrong in this particular case, but PCB are no angels either. Lets not forget PCB cancelled a tour of BD not so long ago, in addition to asking for and receiving half of the revenue from the 2015 series in Bangladesh.
Ultimately, I hope the Test series goes through whether in Pakistan or at a neutral venue - provided the security is up to par. But with Shakib banned, Mushfiq opting out, and Mosaddek's mother's illness, BD will probably have no choice but to send a 2nd string side for this series.
When I read the report that Mushfiqur Rahim is unwilling to tour was just the end of the line for me.
A nobody who has played himself into a decent cricketer because Bangladesh could not produce anyone better over the years giving it as if he is MS Dhoni or something.
The fact of the matter is PCB needs BCB, plain and simple. A successful tour by SL, and PSL being Pakistan will not convince England and Australia to tour Pakistan before 2030. And a lot can happen in 10 years to further erode those chances. Even a team like NZ or SA won't be convinced to tour Pakistan and those countries will be even more financially unattractive than BD team.
So 23 signed up for PSL and according to a media outlet, a Test specialist today stated that he was willing to tour.
Yet, somehow, 'most' are reluctant.![]()
We all know they are rubbish in test anyway, they hardly get invited by any decent team out there. What boggles me is that they are getting to act pricey with PCB & may actually get away with it as well!
I would have toured Pakistan: Mash
Discussions have been going on regarding Bangladesh’s possible upcoming tour of Pakistan for originally scheduled two Tests and three T20Is later this month. However, still uncertainty looms as the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) mentioned they will be giving a clear stance -- whether to play just the three T20Is or to play the two Tests first and push the T20Is for later date as proposed by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) -- regarding the tour on January 12.
And Mashrafe, who has already retired from Tests and T20Is, was asked if he would consider touring Pakistan in such situations. The 36-year-old pacer said that, had he been in the squad, he would have toured Pakistan after consulting with his family.
“To be honest if you ask me, I would have gone but obviously I would have consulted with my family. I don’t know what my family would have said as this would be the first time I would discuss this matter. But if you only ask me about going to Pakistan or not, I would say yes, I would go. May be but not sure as it depends on my family too,” said Dhaka Platoon skipper Mashrafe Bin Mortaza after their 11-run defeat against Rangpur Rangers during their Bangabandhu Bangladesh Premier League (BBPL) encounter in Mirpur today.
Mashrafe also mentioned that it actually depends on each individual and that he also respects the decision of the ones who don’t want to tour Pakistan. Mushfiqur Rahim was the only one from the current Test and T20I squad to inform about his unwillingness to tour Pakistan.
“But then again it doesn’t mean those who does not want to go are fault as obviously life comes first before the game. So, it is important for the individual call and with due respect everyone is right from their own perspective.” concluded Mashrafe.
https://www.thedailystar.net/sports/cricket/news/i-would-have-toured-pakistan-mash-1852294
I would have toured Pakistan: Mash
Discussions have been going on regarding Bangladesh’s possible upcoming tour of Pakistan for originally scheduled two Tests and three T20Is later this month. However, still uncertainty looms as the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) mentioned they will be giving a clear stance -- whether to play just the three T20Is or to play the two Tests first and push the T20Is for later date as proposed by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) -- regarding the tour on January 12.
And Mashrafe, who has already retired from Tests and T20Is, was asked if he would consider touring Pakistan in such situations. The 36-year-old pacer said that, had he been in the squad, he would have toured Pakistan after consulting with his family.
“To be honest if you ask me, I would have gone but obviously I would have consulted with my family. I don’t know what my family would have said as this would be the first time I would discuss this matter. But if you only ask me about going to Pakistan or not, I would say yes, I would go. May be but not sure as it depends on my family too,” said Dhaka Platoon skipper Mashrafe Bin Mortaza after their 11-run defeat against Rangpur Rangers during their Bangabandhu Bangladesh Premier League (BBPL) encounter in Mirpur today.
Mashrafe also mentioned that it actually depends on each individual and that he also respects the decision of the ones who don’t want to tour Pakistan. Mushfiqur Rahim was the only one from the current Test and T20I squad to inform about his unwillingness to tour Pakistan.
“But then again it doesn’t mean those who does not want to go are fault as obviously life comes first before the game. So, it is important for the individual call and with due respect everyone is right from their own perspective.” concluded Mashrafe.
https://www.thedailystar.net/sports/cricket/news/i-would-have-toured-pakistan-mash-1852294
Doesn’t matter if you are Indian or Pakistani - you don’t have any business here when it comes to which team team tours Pakistan and which not. Time has definitely changed - that’s the reason why PCB is putting their effort for this series to happen.
What PAK will do BD in Test cricket has very little to do in this topic. And, no I am not showing any attitude for winning few ODIs.
If BCB decline the tour this time, it will damage their relations with Pakistan in a huge, huge way. They have led PCB down this path many times before, and I won't be surprised if PCB completely shuts them out going forward.
BCB may not think much of it right now because PCB is not a powerful body at this time, but this attitude they've shown over the last several weeks will come back to bite them really, really hard.
Don't think so!!!! PCB always melt when someone praises and ready to jump.
Boards like India, NZ, Australia, Eng or S Africa has strong administration with professional people in top place and others cannot play game with them like this.
Why will PCB care about BCB? They never did in the past when cancelling their own trip to Dhaka at the last minute.
Large boards will always need smaller boards for voting to get something through and also to make money by inviting them home and bashing them. PCB can provide neither.
I hope BCB agrees to visit Pak for tests. It just makes cricketing sense and benefits both boards and also all cricket fans.
Wicketkeeper-batsman Mushfiqur Rahim is among the players who have shown zero interest in being part of the Bangladesh contingent to Pakistan.
“We are confused about the tour of Pakistan and it is quite disturbing, considering we need to take some individual preparation ahead of any tour. While we remain confused, our family members are completely in the dark about it and this uncertainty is making them worried, considering their [Pakistan’s] reputation regarding security,’’ a national cricketer said Saturday, asking to remain anonymous.
“It would be better if we can have a clear picture, as that will help us remove all the uncertainties surrounding our travel plan,” the cricketer added.
https://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/cricket/2020/01/11/bcb-to-take-final-decision-on-pak-tour-sunday
remind me how many test matches BD team get from big boards?Why will PCB care about BCB? They never did in the past when cancelling their own trip to Dhaka at the last minute.
Large boards will always need smaller boards for voting to get something through and also to make money by inviting them home and bashing them. PCB can provide neither.
I hope BCB agrees to visit Pak for tests. It just makes cricketing sense and benefits both boards and also all cricket fans.
remind me how many test matches BD team get from big boards?
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Among all countries, Pakistan has played minimum tests against BD since the latter got test status. It’s not shaded because Pak is the only country that has not played a single test against BD in the last 4 years.
This, along with the fact that Mr Mani was against giving test status to BCB, does not give credibility to the claim that PCB has done a lot for BCB, so the latter should reciprocate.
In last 4 years, India, England, Australia, SL, WI, NZ have all played tests against Bangladesh. Cricinfo Statsguru!
Remind me which country is missing in the list?
That’s why I said, BCB will hopefully be a lot nicer than PCB and should agree for the test matches Karachi/Lahore. But No one should be surprised if they won’t.
PCB can replace BD team with any other team from the bottom of the table but who will BCB replace Pakistan with?
If you have so much hatred so much against Pakistan why are you in this forum with our player's name?
Your India played only 1 extra test considering there were few series cancelled due to BD's political interference with present government.
Go troll somewhere else!!!
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Among all countries, Pakistan has played minimum tests against BD since the latter got test status. It’s not shaded because Pak is the only country that has not played a single test against BD in the last 4 years.
This, along with the fact that Mr Mani was against giving test status to BCB, does not give credibility to the claim that PCB has done a lot for BCB, so the latter should reciprocate.
Why do they all sign for PSL then? Pathetic team with a pathetic board.
4 years. You answered my question.
Ind won't be playing them until Nov 2022 and Aus already cancelled their FTP series later this year. Eng, NZ as well know invite them for 1-2 tests and 2-3 T20Is once in 4 years.
PCT gets good amount of FTP and the rest of missing calender they can fill up by making PSL bigger and inviting Ireland or Zimbabwe instead of BD. BD's quality as a team is not that great which is why PCB could replace them with another team from the bottom of table. but I am sure it will affect BCB if PCB cancels their tour of BD as well like Aus.
if BCB do ditch PCB this time then no one can blame PCB for not taking them seriously in the future. This time PCB did show good will by allowing players to take part in BPL and the reason why BPL is televised to 22 million people in Pakistan is because of some players taking part otherwise nobody would even follow it.
Also BCB's action will alsi justify the likes of Aus ditching them hiding behind security.
View attachment 98312
Among all countries, Pakistan has played minimum tests against BD since the latter got test status. It’s not shaded because Pak is the only country that has not played a single test against BD in the last 4 years.
This, along with the fact that Mr Mani was against giving test status to BCB, does not give credibility to the claim that PCB has done a lot for BCB, so the latter should reciprocate.