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Congress has 'Muslims' blood on its hands', admits Salman Khurshid
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Just before Karnataka polls, absolute dimwits, although BJP has much more blood on their hands so shouldn't matter.
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Congress have sikhs blood in their hand too.
Also I don’t think this affects their chances in Karnataka as Muslims normally vote congress here irrespective of any benefits they got from party.Niether BJP nor JDS try to get Muslim votes any way.
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Interesting justification.
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Hmm wasn't one,it was a pov from poll perspective whether it would affect Congress' Muslim vote.
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Yada yada, Muslims will still blindly vote for the Congress in spite of this statement and in spite of the truth behind it.
Voting for the Congress is to their detriment.
Voting for the Congress is to their detriment.
Both have but it comes to the point that it is lesser evil versus evil.
You have cold blooded killer with devoid of humanity in charge of the multicultural populated nation. The same man that has been put in charge with the backing of one of the most cruel communal [terrorist] party of all the times in spite of the genocide in Gujarat, 2002.
Indian Muslims may cling to Congress because it is matter of survival meaning lesser evil that doesn't elect cold blooded killer with devoid of humanity aka Genocidal Modi.
You have cold blooded killer with devoid of humanity in charge of the multicultural populated nation. The same man that has been put in charge with the backing of one of the most cruel communal [terrorist] party of all the times in spite of the genocide in Gujarat, 2002.
Indian Muslims may cling to Congress because it is matter of survival meaning lesser evil that doesn't elect cold blooded killer with devoid of humanity aka Genocidal Modi.
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Er...no. They've had 70 years. They could have come up with their own political party(ies) and laughed in the face of the Congress and the BJP while winning at worst, an election here or there.
But no - they've been reduced to the point of deciding to stick with one which kills the least.
Er...no. They've had 70 years. They could have come up with their own political party(ies) and laughed in the face of the Congress and the BJP while winning at worst, an election here or there.
But no - they've been reduced to the point of deciding to stick with one which kills the least.
You expect Indian Muslims to support BJP that has the history of exterminating [genocide] their beings for years? No one is that suicidal to accept genocide on the large scale on purpose. Just asks Indians in regards to being ruled by Muslim invaders for more than 1000 years were the better times than the today time of India for Indians. But that is for another topic.
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Yes. If they're too lazy to float their own leaders, this is the next most logical thing to do: if you can't beat them, join them.
The BJP will realize that this is a votebank they can use for PR and for future elections and will pander to them to retain the unexpected votebank. As it turns out, they are happy to have a mutually exclusive relationship that is a lose-lose for every Muslim in town, seeing that the inept Congress hasn't done anything for them either.
Last time they had which proved detrimental for India which to this day India still shiver in the name of the leader that comes with the package. #Pakistan
Ever since then, all the tactics have been employed to ensure that Indian Muslims are never given equal opportunity to strengthen themselves which always has been too much handle for India to begin with.
At least Congress sees Indian Muslims as vote bank which is only option made choice for Indian Muslims since BJP never sees Indian Muslims with beating hearts never mind the vote bank. Hence the lesser evil aka a choice that no Indian Muslims want are now stuck with for the time being until the appointed time [prophecy].
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Oh there's a prophecy? What does it say?
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Lol at this logic.Because Muslims only vote for Congress BJP need to rely on Hindus otherwise whoever does work well should have get all votes.
Also Indian Muslims need to control population so everyone gets equal preference.If you produce 5/6 kids per family it will difficult for everyone to get benefit especially if it’s poor or lower middle class family.
Indian Muslims vote for Congress just to live little longer while albeit in the suffocated environments that is dangerously harmful as it is. Other option is BJP which means straight to the poison aka death which has been the case in the last few years repeatedly.
On bold; i think they should be multiplying more considering Indian Muslims are fast becoming extinct at the mercy of Genocidal Modi and his communal [terrorist] party.
That the relief will come where Indian Muslims will no longer hounded by dogs?
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Not good enough. When, where and how?
What? Well, i am not gonna dwell on the topic of prophecy which can be terribly painful for the communal nation till the judgement day. Right now, knowing that the faith for the great relief at appointment day can be self-reassuring for most Indian Muslims including Kashmiris from IOK.
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The rest of us have a phrase for things like these: a cock and bull story. Such is used as a coping technique by some, to distract themselves from the difficulties of everyday life.
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Expecting Muslims to vote for BJP is like saying if turkeys vote for Thanksgiving, people will eat chicken and let the Turkeys live 
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Expecting Muslims to vote for BJP is like saying if turkeys vote for Thanksgiving, people will eat chicken and let the Turkeys live
Who asked Muslims to vote for BJP?
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BJP is there from only 1989..Congress was there from 1947.
Also census about population says Muslims are one of the few communities who have population growth.
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Christians have grown exponentially, converts or birth rates. [MENTION=132715]Varun[/MENTION] suggested Muslims voting for BJP above
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Expecting Muslims to vote for BJP is like saying if turkeys vote for Thanksgiving, people will eat chicken and let the Turkeys live
In your context, if turkeys vote for Thanksgiving, they can force the hand of the Thanksgiving God by their numbers to in fact, eat chicken or any other meat. They at least would stand a chance versus voting the other way and being eaten up in case, no?
Considering the past where the term of centurion can not be translated as loosely. Hence the term terribly painful.
Did you even read my post?
As for Muslim growth, that goes hand in hand in terms of fast becoming extinct as well which makes Muslim growth even more important.
So you are saying that it is between slowly painful death and quick painful death so voting for BJP might be best option for quick painful death?
Both are 'nonetheless' options considering choosing death regardless of how and speed is still considered democratic option available at offer.
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Did you even read title of this thread? This is a senior Congress leader saying Congress have Muslim blood in their hand here you are saying Muslims are voting for Congress to live longer!!!!
While Congress have Muslim bloods in their hands, so do BJP. It is death either way. Slowly painfully death or quick painful death. Either way, it is death.
Given the option for Indian Muslims which is between lesser evil and evil, they are forced to choose lesser evil which means just to live little longer while albeit in the suffocated environments that is dangerously harmful as it is. As oppose to the genocide on the large scale in the name of beef laws while rewarding the background of the PM as Genocidal PM where slaughtering 'Indian' Muslims are legal in front of the world since Genocidal Modi being PM of India is dead give-away sign for inviting to large scale on genocide legally.
Again, it is not option for 'Indian' Muslims.
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Muslims are voting Congress way before BJP even founded so not sure from where lesser evil argument comes.
Read my post again. Again, you make it sound there is option.
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some Indian muslims I know actually started to move from congress. Last thing we need is congress government and send our nation back into stone age with corruption scams uneviling every other day
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Those muslims are actually voting for independent muslim candidates and/or Samajvadi Party or other minortiy parties. Very rarely muslims will vote for Bjp.
From the time our Kashmir problem became poisoned with Islamism I lost interest in it. I believe Islamism to be the Nazism of our time and believe every effort must be made to crush this evil ideology. So it horrified me that Burhan Wani became a hero in death despite those ISIS-style recruitment videos in which he vowed to turn Kashmir into an Islamic state. When his death caused the Valley to explode into a suicidal mayhem of stone-pelting and Islamist slogans, I saw it as jihadi terrorism.
Since then I have avoided writing about Kashmir. If I do this week it is on account of an ugly Twitter war with Kashmiri pundits and Hindutva types that I became embroiled in after blaming Jagmohan for the exodus of the Pandits. This happened soon after he returned as Governor of Jammu & Kashmir in January 1990. The ethnic cleansing of Hindus from the Valley is one of Indian history’s most shameful chapters. It should have been prevented even if the Valley needed to be put under martial law.
It is a mistake that we continue to pay for but Jagmohan is seen by most Kashmiri Pandits as the ‘saviour’ of Kashmir. When I sifted through the floodgate of violent abuse directed at me because of my criticism of Jagmohan, I noticed that it was based on myth and not history. So the ISI, Pakistan and Farooq Abdullah were charged with causing the exodus. Jagmohan cannot be charged with causing it either, but he did fail to prevent it. As someone who witnessed firsthand the rise of the armed struggle for ‘azadi’, I feel it is important to set the record straight.
Like most other Indians, Kashmir for me was just a place I saw in Bollywood films and summer holidays. Like most Indians I saw the Kashmiri Muslims as traitors whose loyalties were not to India. My first trip as a political journalist was to cover the ‘coronation’ of Farooq Abdullah in the summer of 1981. Sheikh Abdullah was still alive and what impressed me more than the ‘crown of thorns’ he placed on his son’s head, at a massive public meeting in Srinagar, was the love that ordinary Kashmiris felt for him.
He died months later. And there was an election in the summer of 1983. I was sent to cover it for The Telegraph by M J Akbar, who was editor. It was the first election I covered on my own so I worked extra hard. I visited every constituency in the Valley other than Uri. And I reported that Kashmiris everywhere said that it was democracy and not secession that they now vested their faith in. They said they would vote for Farooq because they felt they owed this election to Sheikh Abdullah. Yusuf Jameel, who Akbar appointed as the first Kashmiri Muslim correspondent in Srinagar, was my travelling companion and interpreter.
The special correspondents sent by the national newspapers rarely left Srinagar and got all their information from people like Mufti Mohammad Sayeed, who was then in the Congress party. They joked about how they were there as ‘viceroys of Delhi’, and because Kashmiri elections had always been rigged, falsely charged Farooq with rigging this one and with making secessionist speeches.
Indira Gandhi believed them and got rid of Farooq’s government within a year. The man she brought in to do this was Jagmohan. Her cousin B K Nehru, whom he replaced, refused to ‘destablise’ Kashmir, as he later wrote. The toppling of Farooq’s government was the beginning of our current Kashmir problem. Farooq became a hero after his unfair dismissal but lost his sheen when he foolishly made an alliance with Rajiv Gandhi to fight the election in 1987. This election was seriously flawed, and many of the men who crossed the border to return as armed militants were those whose defeat was engineered when they contested as part of the Muslim Front.
Farooq’s unpopularity grew exponentially in his second term as chief minister. So did the militant struggle for ‘azadi’, but it was because of mistakes made by Delhi and not Islamabad. Of these mistakes, one of the worst was when prime minister V P Singh’s feeble government sent Jagmohan back as Governor. It was under him that extreme force was used against Kashmiri Muslims instead of to ensure the security of Hindus.
There is no question that Pakistan and the ISI are now fully involved in spreading jihadist violence in the Valley, but they did not create the problem. It was created by mistakes made by Indian prime ministers. Mistakes continue to be made today. Narendra Modi could have started with a clean slate and written a new policy in which the emphasis should be on developing Ladakh and Jammu. These two regions continue to pay for the follies of the Valley.
http://indianexpress.com/article/op...n-myth-and-history-jammu-and-kashmir-5164935/
Since then I have avoided writing about Kashmir. If I do this week it is on account of an ugly Twitter war with Kashmiri pundits and Hindutva types that I became embroiled in after blaming Jagmohan for the exodus of the Pandits. This happened soon after he returned as Governor of Jammu & Kashmir in January 1990. The ethnic cleansing of Hindus from the Valley is one of Indian history’s most shameful chapters. It should have been prevented even if the Valley needed to be put under martial law.
It is a mistake that we continue to pay for but Jagmohan is seen by most Kashmiri Pandits as the ‘saviour’ of Kashmir. When I sifted through the floodgate of violent abuse directed at me because of my criticism of Jagmohan, I noticed that it was based on myth and not history. So the ISI, Pakistan and Farooq Abdullah were charged with causing the exodus. Jagmohan cannot be charged with causing it either, but he did fail to prevent it. As someone who witnessed firsthand the rise of the armed struggle for ‘azadi’, I feel it is important to set the record straight.
Like most other Indians, Kashmir for me was just a place I saw in Bollywood films and summer holidays. Like most Indians I saw the Kashmiri Muslims as traitors whose loyalties were not to India. My first trip as a political journalist was to cover the ‘coronation’ of Farooq Abdullah in the summer of 1981. Sheikh Abdullah was still alive and what impressed me more than the ‘crown of thorns’ he placed on his son’s head, at a massive public meeting in Srinagar, was the love that ordinary Kashmiris felt for him.
He died months later. And there was an election in the summer of 1983. I was sent to cover it for The Telegraph by M J Akbar, who was editor. It was the first election I covered on my own so I worked extra hard. I visited every constituency in the Valley other than Uri. And I reported that Kashmiris everywhere said that it was democracy and not secession that they now vested their faith in. They said they would vote for Farooq because they felt they owed this election to Sheikh Abdullah. Yusuf Jameel, who Akbar appointed as the first Kashmiri Muslim correspondent in Srinagar, was my travelling companion and interpreter.
The special correspondents sent by the national newspapers rarely left Srinagar and got all their information from people like Mufti Mohammad Sayeed, who was then in the Congress party. They joked about how they were there as ‘viceroys of Delhi’, and because Kashmiri elections had always been rigged, falsely charged Farooq with rigging this one and with making secessionist speeches.
Indira Gandhi believed them and got rid of Farooq’s government within a year. The man she brought in to do this was Jagmohan. Her cousin B K Nehru, whom he replaced, refused to ‘destablise’ Kashmir, as he later wrote. The toppling of Farooq’s government was the beginning of our current Kashmir problem. Farooq became a hero after his unfair dismissal but lost his sheen when he foolishly made an alliance with Rajiv Gandhi to fight the election in 1987. This election was seriously flawed, and many of the men who crossed the border to return as armed militants were those whose defeat was engineered when they contested as part of the Muslim Front.
Farooq’s unpopularity grew exponentially in his second term as chief minister. So did the militant struggle for ‘azadi’, but it was because of mistakes made by Delhi and not Islamabad. Of these mistakes, one of the worst was when prime minister V P Singh’s feeble government sent Jagmohan back as Governor. It was under him that extreme force was used against Kashmiri Muslims instead of to ensure the security of Hindus.
There is no question that Pakistan and the ISI are now fully involved in spreading jihadist violence in the Valley, but they did not create the problem. It was created by mistakes made by Indian prime ministers. Mistakes continue to be made today. Narendra Modi could have started with a clean slate and written a new policy in which the emphasis should be on developing Ladakh and Jammu. These two regions continue to pay for the follies of the Valley.
http://indianexpress.com/article/op...n-myth-and-history-jammu-and-kashmir-5164935/
