Consequences of PCB's T20 leagues clashing with BCCIs T20 leagues

[Rana]

Is the PSL pointlessly not trying to clash with IPL?

I just don’t see the point why the PCB are trying not to clash with IPL, and still produce a horrendous roster of International players.

-Guys like Andre Russell who are not contracted with WICB are happy to play amateur club cricket around the world instead of PSL.
-Smith and Warner did not play PSL even during their 1 year ban, but played IPL before returning to international cricket.
-Star players like Hales abandoning PSL now that they have IPL contracts
-Guys like Joe Root who have no consideration by IPL franchises still do not try for a PSL contract.

I mean what exactly does PCB want to achieve by not scheduling the PSL at the same time as the IPL? Why don’t they just do the PSL draft a week after the IPL draft and then pick up the left overs? They will still get their useless English players (Gregories, Cockbain, Clarkes etc), plus the guys like Wiese and Russouw are going nowhere. There was an unsold XI published on cricinfo and I believe nearly all of the overseas players in that unsold XI are in the PSL anyways.

Tired of not seeing this tournament progress. They need to try a different strategy for one season and see if it makes a big difference.

 

[silentkiller187]

so basically what your saying is its already mediocre so lets make it even more mediocre by scheduling it at the same time as the biggest league in the world, meaning less access to the biggest stars, less viewership as more eyes will be n IPL, and broadcasters for example in UK like sky will always pick ipl over psl and it will be the same lgobally barring pak so you want to also reduce the viewership?

we need to let go of this obsession with ipl, PSL is a separate product on its own and needs to be treated as such.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Has the absence of Joe Root and Andre Russel dampened your viewing experience in any way?

The crowds were jumping in Lahore yesterday and we have some pulsating cricket.

Just need to realise that certain players will not prioritise playing in Pakistan and move on to try and get the best of the rest.

 

[Rana]

Has the absence of Joe Root and Andre Russel dampened your viewing experience in any way?

The crowds were jumping in Lahore yesterday and we have some pulsating cricket.

Just need to realise that certain players will not prioritise playing in Pakistan and move on to try and get the best of the rest.

This will happen at the same time if IPL is going on. They will still get the mediocre rejects in the PSL regardless

 

[Cricfan4eva]

What is the advantage of holding it during Apr-May?

 

[JibranAnsari]

I think its the best weather and season to play cricket in pakistan , in april its ramadan in pakistan and after that it will be hotter than the sun.

Its best to play PSL in jan-feb. PSL may be the launching pad for some and for some good retirement money but most established cricketers who are already earning millions wont find much attraction in PSL especially under high security and bubble. Its a double whammy.

 

[Rana]

What is the advantage of holding it during Apr-May?

What exactly is the advantage of holding it now? It’s a horrendous show considering the international players available

Only Jason Roy and Rashid Khan are tier 1 international professionals. Livingstone and David have also broken into this category.

What about the rest?

 

[Pakhs]

What exactly is the advantage of holding it now? It’s a horrendous show considering the international players available

Only Jason Roy and Rashid Khan are tier 1 international professionals. Livingstone and David have also broken into this category.

What about the rest?

Have you made this thread just because you had nothing better to do? It makes no sense to have the league at the same time as IPL? Cricket does not have needless supply of tier 1 cricketers and we all know which league has a better buying power.

 

[Rana]

Have you made this thread just because you had nothing better to do? It makes no sense to have the league at the same time as IPL? Cricket does not have needless supply of tier 1 cricketers and we all know which league has a better buying power.

Have you participated because you have nothing better to do.

What is the point of avoiding a clash with IPL when you are already getting the scraps from it?

 

[Pakhs]

Have you participated because you have nothing better to do.

What is the point of avoiding a clash with IPL when you are already getting the scraps from it?

I participated to ask you the question because I am sure you are fully aware of the reasons why we should not have the league running same time as IPL.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

What exactly is the advantage of holding it now? It’s a horrendous show considering the international players available

Only Jason Roy and Rashid Khan are tier 1 international professionals. Livingstone and David have also broken into this category.

What about the rest?

I agree but what is the reason you want it to be moved to Apr-May? Are there any other advantages or you simply want it to clash with IPL?

 

[Rana]

I agree but what is the reason you want it to be moved to Apr-May? Are there any other advantages or you simply want it to clash with IPL?

Is it really going to make a difference if IPL and PSL are going to run at the same time?

 

[Savak]

I like Ramiz Rajas plan to create a summer window for the PSL going forward

 

[Rana]

I participated to ask you the question because I am sure you are fully aware of the reasons why we should not have the league running same time as IPL.

Are you trying to say that PSL currently is a prelude to IPL with all the stars having a 1 month IPL before the big 2 month season?

 

[Rana]

I like Ramiz Rajas plan to create a summer window for the PSL going forward

I have a feeling nothing will change. People will prefer to play 100 over PSL

 

[Cricfan4eva]

Is it really going to make a difference if IPL and PSL are going to run at the same time?

Yes, the few A-listers you have will also not be available.

Also yours is a view coming from a wrong place, you're just upset that at the moment PSL doesn't have top players, but say PSL improves it's pay, there is more money, having it clash with IPL will most certainly end any chances of any top international player picking PSL over IPL unless they're unsold there or PSL decides to pay more than IPL. How realistic is that?

PSL is very young league in comparison with IPL, all it needs to do is keep improving in it's own pace, get more investors in, and make it a league where foreigners simply can't say no. It will take time but there is enough market out there for top quality 2-3 leagues.

Clashing with IPL makes zero sense as you will only hurt your brand at the moment.

 

[Rana]

One issue which I see might be the reason to not change the current structure is that there is probably a certain amount of set income involved for all investors which they will not want to risk losing by experimenting with the dates of the tournament

 

[Mirpur express]

I love PSL , the quality is improving all the time @ trolls like Rana won’t dampen my spirits.. a die hard Umar Akmal fan… lmao says it all ����*

 

[Pakhs]

Are you trying to say that PSL currently is a prelude to IPL with all the stars having a 1 month IPL before the big 2 month season?

Yes, the few A-listers you have will also not be available.

Also yours is a view coming from a wrong place, you're just upset that at the moment PSL doesn't have top players, but say PSL improves it's pay, there is more money, having it clash with IPL will most certainly end any chances of any top international player picking PSL over IPL unless they're unsold there or PSL decides to pay more than IPL. How realistic is that?

PSL is very young league in comparison with IPL, all it needs to do is keep improving in it's own pace, get more investors in, and make it a league where foreigners simply can't say no. It will take time but there is enough market out there for top quality 2-3 leagues.

Clashing with IPL makes zero sense as you will only hurt your brand at the moment.

I believe Cric4eva has answered you question?

 

[Saj]

The problem is 1 out of 100 players will pick PSL over IPL. The rest will just go where the money is.

 

[hitthestump]

Our expectation of PSL need to be tempered.

Those who are holding out for the likes of Smith, Root etc to go unpicked in IPL might just end up disappointed. They'll produce performances like Guptill, for whom PSL was a paid holiday, or simply choose the beach for 2 months instead.

Let's just accept the PSL is what it is. A mediocre league of bland entertainment with some surprisingly good TV deals. It's only purpose is to make money and i believe it does that. Finding new players is what domestic cricket is for.

I have a feeling this thread is about ego and wanting to go toe to toe with IPL/India. Pakistan fans really need to reflect hard on their current standing on the world stage when it comes to cricket and realise such motives only end in tears.

 

[A.A.Z]

I have a feeling nothing will change. People will prefer to play 100 over PSL

The Hundred is scheduled for August. PSL can be played in June or July depending on international schedules in the Northern areas where turn out will be much better than places like Karachi.

 

[silentkiller187]

its not just about players, top coaches will always go to ipl at the moment, top broadcasters will choose ipl , indian viewership will disappear, basically it will be in a worse position than it currently is?

Putting ego and emotion to one side what are the actual benefits of staging psl and ipl at same time?

 

[NishanKonar]

If PSL clashes with IPL - even those Tier 1 players who are playing PSL now ( Rashid ,Jason Roy, Livingstone ) will stop playing in PSL

 

[Rana]

its not just about players, top coaches will always go to ipl at the moment, top broadcasters will choose ipl , indian viewership will disappear, basically it will be in a worse position than it currently is?

Putting ego and emotion to one side what are the actual benefits of staging psl and ipl at same time?

What Indian viewership? Indians don’t watch PSL

 

[silentkiller187]

What Indian viewership? Indians don’t watch PSL

well a few years ago there was more indians watching psl than pakistanis, im sure this figure is only going to go up.

 

[cricketerB94]

It's like open a burger stall in front of KFC. What's this obsession with IPL? Root is a IPL-reject, has he applied to play in PSL yet? If PCB organizes the PSL during IPL, there will be a lot of disadvantages like:

1- PSL will loose a few A-list players that it have.
2- PSL will loose its broadcasting deals as the broadcasters will always prefer IPL over PSL.

PSL is not a match for IPL currently, but it's still the 2nd/3rd best league. If it clashes with IPL, it'll soon go down as no one will be available to cover PSL around the world and it'll just be known to Pakistanis then.

 

[NishanKonar]

It's like open a burger stall in front of KFC. What's this obsession with IPL? Root is a IPL-reject, has he applied to play in PSL yet? If PCB organizes the PSL during IPL, there will be a lot of disadvantages like:

1- PSL will loose a few A-list players that it have.
2- PSL will loose its broadcasting deals as the broadcasters will always prefer IPL over PSL.

PSL is not a match for IPL currently, but it's still the 2nd/3rd best league. If it clashes with IPL, it'll soon go down as no one will be available to cover PSL around the world and it'll just be known to Pakistanis then.

PSL should position itself as a feeder system for IPL - just like BBL and CPL. Most BBL & CPL players have 1 aim - impress IPL scouts

PSL should do market itself like that to foreign players - do well in SPL and get an IPL deal. That might attract a lot of good foreign players to PSL

 

[cricketerB94]

PSL should position itself as a feeder system for IPL - just like BBL and CPL. Most BBL & CPL players have 1 aim - impress IPL scouts

PSL should do market itself like that to foreign players - do well in SPL and get an IPL deal. That might attract a lot of good foreign players to PSL

Every league and international cricket is a feeder system for IPL. People say that Tim David or Livingstone sold to IPL franchises because of PSL. That's not true. They showed consistence performances in other leagues or international, that's why IPL franchises bought them.

PSL should not care about IPL and that will only happen when the PSL organizers and fans accept that IPL is too big for the comparison. Babar performed well in international cricket because he always put down the comparisons of himself and Kohli, whereas Shehzad and Akmal kept self deluding themselves with those comparisons and failed miserably.

Ideally, PSL should have a window 2 months after IPL because it's obvious that if the PSL happens 1 month before IPL, some players will pull out due to fatigue or fitness. They can compete or clash with other leagues, like if they go parallel with CPL, they will miss out on some WI players, which I don't see even in this window, but they can get some other good players. Also in that case, the timezones are very different, so the broadcasters should be fine as well.

 

[Civil]

Give it a rest folks, stop comparing to IPL. PSL is doing the best it can given the conditions. It is best for it to have its own window because some Indians and foreigners will watch as well boosting our ratings.

Enjoy the cricket or just go wait till IPL starts but stop comparing the two.

 

[Mesozoic]

well a few years ago there was more indians watching psl than pakistanis, im sure this figure is only going to go up.

Damn... is that true? I'd love to see the source for this if it's not "trust me bro".

 

[Savak]

I have a feeling nothing will change. People will prefer to play 100 over PSL

There are only a limited slots in the Natwest T-20 League and the Blast and the CPL. The PCB needs to reach an understanding with these leagues and hold the PSL accordingly.

 

[adzzy786]

A David v Goliath scenario will not win here.

 

[silentkiller187]

Damn... is that true? I'd love to see the source for this if it's not "trust me bro".

Its defo true, i think it was in 2017 or 2018 final they split the viewership into a pie chart it was something like 28% from india (all online) , 21% from pak think and other countries like oman , uk made up the rest i think a simple google search should bring up the story. It was covered by indian and pakistani news outlets

 

[Mamoon]

I used to be against the idea of playing IPL and PSL at the same time.

However, considering how competitive IPL has become and how many top international players get ignored every year, PSL can certainly benefit by competing at the same time.

The best XI of the neglected international players in IPL auction this year will smoke any PSL franchise.

The notion that those players will be demotivated and not play with intensity because they missed out on an IPL contract is not true.

I feel that they will be extra motivated and will give their 100% in PSL to impress IPL franchises and earn a contract the next year.

They will use PSL to get into IPL the following year and the cycle will continue.

PCB and the fans need to swallow their pride and acknowledge the reality that PSL is basically a feeder league for IPL and not a competitor, and being IPL’s feeder league is also going to benefit PSL because they will get plenty of good quality international players every year.

 

[Mamoon]

A David v Goliath scenario will not win here.

PSL has to position itself as a feeder league to IPL and not try to compete with it. That is the whole point.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

I just don’t see the point why the PCB are trying not to clash with IPL, and still produce a horrendous roster of International players.

-Guys like Andre Russell who are not contracted with WICB are happy to play amateur club cricket around the world instead of PSL.
-Smith and Warner did not play PSL even during their 1 year ban, but played IPL before returning to international cricket.
-Star players like Hales abandoning PSL now that they have IPL contracts
-Guys like Joe Root who have no consideration by IPL franchises still do not try for a PSL contract.

I mean what exactly does PCB want to achieve by not scheduling the PSL at the same time as the IPL? Why don’t they just do the PSL draft a week after the IPL draft and then pick up the left overs? They will still get their useless English players (Gregories, Cockbain, Clarkes etc), plus the guys like Wiese and Russouw are going nowhere. There was an unsold XI published on cricinfo and I believe nearly all of the overseas players in that unsold XI are in the PSL anyways.

Tired of not seeing this tournament progress. They need to try a different strategy for one season and see if it makes a big difference.

Yep, why not play PSL when there is a T20 WC going on? Even a better idea, no?

 

[Rana]

Yep, why not play PSL when there is a T20 WC going on? Even a better idea, no?

Whatever floats your boat

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

What is the advantage of holding it during Apr-May?

I have been asking the same question regarding IPL too.

 

[Saj]

PSL has areas where it can grow and attract bigger names. That's what they should look at as priorities in the coming years:

More teams
Better quality overseas players
Better quality cricket

 

[Savak]

PSL has areas where it can grow and attract bigger names. That's what they should look at as priorities in the coming years:

More teams
Better quality overseas players
Better quality cricket

These things require stakeholders to have lots of money. Who is going to provide the money? Everyone knows what needs to be done, how is it going to be done?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

PSL has areas where it can grow and attract bigger names. That's what they should look at as priorities in the coming years:

More teams
Better quality overseas players
Better quality cricket

While there is room for possibly one more team, I don't want us to end up in an IPL-like situation where our players are burnt out from playing the PSL. India paid the price for it at the T20 World Cup. And based on the kind of cricketing calendar India have, a longer IPL with 10 teams is going to burn their players out even more.

 

[Saj]

These things require stakeholders to have lots of money. Who is going to provide the money? Everyone knows what needs to be done, how is it going to be done?

Well PCB keep telling us how many bidders they had for the Multan Sultans franchise...........

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Over the top reactions in this thread. Just because there are a couple of setbacks to PSL.

PSL is doing its job. All of Pakistan is watching on TV. The interest I am assuming is still high.

More to the point: there are only a handful of foreign stars people want to watch anyway in Pakistan. I'd think they'd flock to see above all, Indian players like Kohli, Dhoni and couple of others + maybe the likes of Pollard, Archer. That's all.

You can bring in Cummins, Williamson, Stokes, Conway, Hasaranga, Pooran, Russel and any others you like, in fact the entire Australian/England/NZ/SL/WI combined top players eleven and it won't make a difference to ratings. In fact many have already been here before and no longer here. The ratings are still strong. Please correct me.

T20 cricket is mickey mouse cricket anyway. Therefore it's OK if one is a bigger mouse than the other.

We should all just pipe down.

 

[Savak]

Well PCB keep telling us how many bidders they had for the Multan Sultans franchise...........

$6.35 million is the fee per annum for MS. The PCB needs to get a good broadcast deal for the PSL to thrive

 

[MightyObnoxious]

I just don’t see the point why the PCB are trying not to clash with IPL, and still produce a horrendous roster of International players.

-Guys like Andre Russell who are not contracted with WICB are happy to play amateur club cricket around the world instead of PSL.
-Smith and Warner did not play PSL even during their 1 year ban, but played IPL before returning to international cricket.
-Star players like Hales abandoning PSL now that they have IPL contracts
-Guys like Joe Root who have no consideration by IPL franchises still do not try for a PSL contract.

I mean what exactly does PCB want to achieve by not scheduling the PSL at the same time as the IPL? Why don’t they just do the PSL draft a week after the IPL draft and then pick up the left overs? They will still get their useless English players (Gregories, Cockbain, Clarkes etc), plus the guys like Wiese and Russouw are going nowhere. There was an unsold XI published on cricinfo and I believe nearly all of the overseas players in that unsold XI are in the PSL anyways.

Tired of not seeing this tournament progress. They need to try a different strategy for one season and see if it makes a big difference.

This window was chosen by PCB cause Pakistan team has no commitments during that time for the next ten years. Nothing to do with IPL.

 

[Savak]

While there is room for possibly one more team, I don't want us to end up in an IPL-like situation where our players are burnt out from playing the PSL. India paid the price for it at the T20 World Cup. And based on the kind of cricketing calendar India have, a longer IPL with 10 teams is going to burn their players out even more.

The PCB is not going to add any more teams till PSL 10

 

[Local.Dada]

A lot of viewership comes from India too. Right now with hardly any note worthy cricket a lot of Indians would tune into PSL too, that strategy seems to have worked so far.

When IPL goes on most current events go under the radar leave alone PSL .why would you risk that?

 

[Savak]

Would like Cricket Joshilla's response to this

 

[sjahmed23]

PSL needs to just focus on it's own brand. Hard, cutthroat cricket with no space for old babas and softies. It will do just fine.

I think it has slowly evolved, but some teams are still too much into bhai chara stuff. They need to get real and treat each franchise like a business, a product and go all out in making their teams competitive then the league would have it's own reputation and value.

Also, they need to allow franchises the opportunity to decide how much they want to spend on each player. For example, each franchise should have option for giving max contracts to 1-2 players, that amount, they decide.

I like PSL's progression so far, with a few tocuhes it can become a more entertaining league than IPL regardless of the financials.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

The PCB is not going to add any more teams till PSL 10

That has more to do with the fact that they can't. The league is not exactly a lucrative money-making venture for someone who buys a team at this point. But I think they shouldn't add more than one down the line even if they have the choice. An overlong T20 tournament is not in the best interests of the national team.

 

[Savak]

That has more to do with the fact that they can't. The league is not exactly a lucrative money-making venture for someone who buys a team at this point. But I think they shouldn't add more than one down the line even if they have the choice. An overlong T20 tournament is not in the best interests of the national team.

There is scope to add more teams given Pakistan's population and the number of players who are missing out. You need to just limit the number of matches played i.e. one game home and another game away for each team.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Whatever floats your boat

If your boat gets floating by the idea of playing PSL at the same time when IPL is played, then the only idea that can beat your idea on the level of "EXTREME WISDOM" is the idea of playing PSL when the T20 world cup is played. What could possibly go wrong for PSL? Think about it.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Cut down the number of overseas players to 3.

Focus on getting players like Smeed, David when they are young. This will require a good scouting network but can increase the reach of the PSL.

Find a window where there is more availability of Sri Lankan and Bangaldeshi players so we can maximise Asian talent.

Find prestigious ex-players like Viv, who are not going to become coaches, and plonk them on the dugout as mentors. I like seeing VIV on the TV and I'd imagine it is a motivating factors for players.

Do this and we can have a good league with lots of growth potential.

 

[Rana]

If your boat gets floating by the idea of playing PSL at the same time when IPL is played, then the only idea that can beat your idea on the level of "EXTREME WISDOM" is the idea of playing PSL when the T20 world cup is played. What could possibly go wrong for PSL? Think about it.

As I said. Whatever floats your boat, and I’ll do whatever floats mine.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Stop creating these pointless thread about IPL and comparing it to PSL.

IPL is complete different animal and PSL cannot compete with it.

IPL is way ahead of PSL in terms of money, crowd, viewers etc.

Even Pakistan players won't play PSL ahead of IPL when the ban is liftet. Do you think Shaheen Shah will play PSL for 150K USD or when he is worth 2 million USD deal in IPL?

Enjoy PSL. At least PSL exists. It will find it's own place. Let it be. The product is getting better day by day.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Around 20-25% of the viewership for PSL comes from India. So you can say goodbye to that if it is held along with IPL.

Also right now, PSL gets some very basic international coverage in news websites etc. Good luck with getting even that during IPL

 

[Rana]

What is the proof PSL has substantial viewership in India?

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Personally, I think we need to stop worrying about the players that are leaving for the IPL and worry about the players that are being picked for the PSL.

Joe Clark
Cock something
Thompson for KK (I think)

That’s just an example.

There should be NO overseas players below the GOLD category in the draft, that way we won’t see the likes of Faf and Moeen playing in BPL, and we won’t have to watch mediocre county players playing in one of the biggest T20 leagues.
[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] if you’re in a WhatsApp group with Rambo, please pass this on. NO foreign players under the GOLD category.

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

I find it nauseating that many try to compare and compete against ipl.. just enjoy the goddamn cricket and move on. All the so called leagues are money spinning machines for the respective boards

 

[ElRaja]

PSLs USP isnt overseas players, its depth of fast bowlers, the only thing that separates it from the other leagues.

PSL needs to bring domestic batting standards up to snuff, then reduce overseas players slots. no one is watching the psl for second or third tier international players, that is the truth.

a reduction in overseas slots to two per team wouldn't weaken the teams given the overseas players playing the league atm.

just have 12 overseas slots, and get the PCB to chase 12 really good tier 2 t20i players, with the contracts weighted on 50/50 salary and loyalty bonus.

 

[Savak]

The 2008 Asia Cup was held in Lahore and Karachi bw June and July 2008. Series have been held and played in Pakistan from August to September in Pakistan as well. So much for the talk that the PCB hopes of finding a summer window for the PSL is unrealistic

 

[Cricfan4eva]

I have been asking the same question regarding IPL too.

It is our off season, instead of carving out time from our usual international cricket calendar, they simply made use of an unused portion of the year to create extra revenue.

Works for international players too with only Eng/WI clashing, but since creation of a window even those are very rare and limited.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

Its defo true, i think it was in 2017 or 2018 final they split the viewership into a pie chart it was something like 28% from india (all online) , 21% from pak think and other countries like oman , uk made up the rest i think a simple google search should bring up the story. It was covered by indian and pakistani news outlets

Not sure about 2017/18 but in India since last couple of years fantasy has kicked off in a massive way with multi-companies raising millions and setting up base here. D11, Vision11, MyCircle11 etc..

Heck, dream11 saw this as an opportunity to launch a streaming platform called fancode that specifically buys cheap rights or rights no one ever bought before, like Euro league, ICC associate cups etc. and parallelly runs fantasy for such tournaments.

So while PSL is with sony, apart from just the interest of watching some quality T20 cricket, fantasy cricket has pushed digital viewership.

 

[Titan24]

I think its not pointless. Some of the top stars in PSL might not be available if PSL clashes with IPL (Livingstone, Hales, Rashid Khan, Tim David, Chris Jordan etc.) yes one can argue that some players snubbed by IPL like Root, Guptill can be decent additions but, how many of them good enough to add quality to the T20 league and there is no guarantee as well on availability. Not to forget IPL has 10 teams now so more overseas are gonna be on contracts around the same time.

However, the much bigger thing as I have mentioned previously in other threads and discussions is the international broadcasting revenue. Why would Sonly, Fox, Willow etc be paying good sum for PSL if PSL is gonna run alongside IPL as the competition would be extremely tough. So that would take out good chunk of broadcasting revenues.

So I cant think of any pros other than few decent international players (most might not be that good T20 players) available, which few already are and are good T20 players while there are few big cons as mentioned.

 

[IAJ]

What Indian viewership? Indians don’t watch PSL

Lol, do you think a few BJP/RSS posters on this forum represent whole of India? India is big country and there are millions there who watch PSL and many of them love pakistani cricketers.

You can also read the comments under the coke studio music videos. The majority are indians and they are not sorts of guys who want to boycott Pakistan.

Coming back to PSL. Let PSL be PSL, no need to compare it with IPL (not saying your are comparing). There are still some world class players in PSL and that is a big platform for young emerging pakistani players. Babar Azam is one of the best T20 cricketers in World and look at the delivery he got from Zeeshan Zameer. That moment alone was enough for me to rate PSL.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think PSL should have its own objectives instead of trying to compete against IPL, BBL etc.

IPL shouldn't be in the picture.

 

[Savak]

I think PSL should have its own objectives instead of trying to compete against IPL, BBL etc.

IPL shouldn't be in the picture.

You strive to be the best when you set your standards high i.e. IPL

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Faulkner is gone and the ground is full. You take all foreign players out and the grounds will be full (except for you: Karachi) and TV ratings will be sky high.

The only thing PCB must do is get ahead of any good or bad news. Players leaving PSL mid tournament is bad optics. But if PCB's media department sets the narrative before the news gets out, it takes away the heat. I also think there may be genuinely some issues behind the scenes (bubble fatigue, opportunities etc) where PCB may want to listen to players mid tournament.

All for good management. But the tournament itself is fine.

 

[Savak]

The PCB signed international broadcasting deals with the likes of Sky Sports, Super sports for their premier mens T20 league ie the PSL.

But these channels have chosen to broadcast the first game of the Women's IPL at the expense of the continuing men's PSL season. This will now mean that PSL's international viewing has taken a big hit in one go.

Let's be clear the international broadcasters will cater to the needs and demands of the global 1.5 Indian audience vs the 240 million Pakistani audience. It's a no contest.

I shudder to think what will happen when the IPL and PSL will clash in 2025.

Najam Sethi was smart enough to delay the women's PSL to September this year knowing full well a clash with the women's IPL was suicidal.

If the Indians have decided that the women's IPL will be held in March and with the Sri Lankan premier league, BPL, BBL, SA T20 league, Emirates T20 league all taking place from December to Feb, the PCB needs to desperately find some other window.

If the PCB is planning for the women's PSL to be played in September. Why can't the men's PSL be shifted to the Aug to Nov window in order to avoid atleast clashing with the IPL?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

PSL is on skysports mix its not been removed off the schedule.

 

[Bewal Express]

The Woman's cricket is no threat to a quality league like the PSL. The PSL has a niche market ie the PKs and PK diaspora.

 

[ex-q-zit]

I used to be against the idea of playing IPL and PSL at the same time.

However, considering how competitive IPL has become and how many top international players get ignored every year, PSL can certainly benefit by competing at the same time.

The best XI of the neglected international players in IPL auction this year will smoke any PSL franchise.

The notion that those players will be demotivated and not play with intensity because they missed out on an IPL contract is not true.

I feel that they will be extra motivated and will give their 100% in PSL to impress IPL franchises and earn a contract the next year.

They will use PSL to get into IPL the following year and the cycle will continue.

PCB and the fans need to swallow their pride and acknowledge the reality that PSL is basically a feeder league for IPL and not a competitor, and being IPL’s feeder league is also going to benefit PSL because they will get plenty of good quality international players every year.

@bold: prime eg of this is Harry Brook. Last PSL he scored a 100 and in this year's auction he went for a cool 13.25 Crore INR. Though to be fair he also followed it up with consistent performances for his national side too.

 

[mastermind_quad]

It was almost a packed house for the first match.

And one of the reasons and very good initiative by BCCI to make WPL popular is:-

The inaugural edition of the Women's Premier League is all set to commence in just three days time with the first match set to be played between Gujarat Giants and Mumbai Indians at the DY Patil Stadium in Navi Mumbai. Before the start of the competition, the tickets for the matches have gone on sale.

In a major development, the tournament, comprising of 22 fixtures, has allowed free entry for women and girls. Meanwhile, for men and boys and tickets are being sold at a nominal price of Rs 100 and 400 as per details available on the ticketing website and app Bookmyshow.

Earlier, the BCCI had also adopted a similar strategy for the home T20I series between India Women and Australia Women. Such an initiative wants to have an increased stadium attendance for women's matches.

https://news.abplive.com/sports/ipl...-entry-to-matches-in-inaugural-season-1585366

 

[JaDed]

The Woman's cricket is no threat to a quality league like the PSL. The PSL has a niche market ie the PKs and PK diaspora.

Yes two different products.. women’s cricket hopefully can help Indian women have more acess to sports , I doubt PSL viewers are going to tune in for this.

 

[Bewal Express]

Yes two different products.. women’s cricket hopefully can help Indian women have more acess to sports , I doubt PSL viewers are going to tune in for this.

The IPL itself is watched by Inds. In the UK it got 1/2mn viewers, hardly earth shattering and around the world the hype is much bigger than its viewing figures amongst non Inds. PSL will have a us and PKs at home,the women's league is not competition

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yes two different products.. women’s cricket hopefully can help Indian women have more acess to sports , I doubt PSL viewers are going to tune in for this.

Wpl is far wider reach and may occupy primetime spot in most countries. PSL isn't a competition for it. But it may cause the niche audience of PSL some issues if PSL is shifted to non prime channels.

 

[JattMaula]

Wpl is far wider reach and may occupy primetime spot in most countries. PSL isn't a competition for it. But it may cause the niche audience of PSL some issues if PSL is shifted to non prime channels.

Niche audience will follow PSL on alternate channels on prime time. It's a win-win. Wider cricket World gets WPL and Pakistani diaspora gets PSL.

 

[Bewal Express]

Wpl is far wider reach and may occupy primetime spot in most countries. PSL isn't a competition for it. But it may cause the niche audience of PSL some issues if PSL is shifted to non prime channels.

No male cricket supporter will watch a product no better than league cricket, probably worse. The PSL relies on PKs at home and abroad and that ain't changing.

 

[Birdman]

No male cricket supporter will watch a product no better than league cricket, probably worse. The PSL relies on PKs at home and abroad and that ain't changing.

I identify myself as a male cricket supporter, and a consider test matches as the highest form of the game. Today got up at 4:00 am to watch the both the wpl games and enjoyed Grace Harris finishing the game for UP.