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Controversy Over Whether India Was Indeed World's Fastest-Growing Economy

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India's statistics may have been painting a far rosier picture of economic growth than the more modest reality of the past decade.

The nation has held the crown of the world's fastest-growing major economy until recently, but a new study by former Chief Economic Adviser Arvind Subramanian says the expansion was overestimated between 2011 and 2017. Rather than growing at about 7% a year in that period, growth was about 4.5%, according to the research paper, published by the Center for International Development at Harvard University.

The overestimation occurred after the previous Congress-led government changed the methodology in calculating gross domestic product in 2012. One of the key adjustments was a shift to financial accounts-based data compiled by the Ministry of Corporate Affairs, from volume-based data previously. This made GDP estimates more sensitive to price changes, in a period of lower oil prices, according to the research paper. Rather than deflate input values by input prices, the new methodology deflated these values by output prices, which could have overstated manufacturing growth.

Krishnamurthy Subramanian, the government's current chief economic adviser, didn't immediately respond to requests for comment. A spokesman for the Statistics Ministry also couldn't immediately respond.

The latest study throws more doubt over India's economic statistics. A growing number of critics have questioned India's high growth estimates under Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government. A delayed jobs report was mired in controversy earlier this year, two statistics officials quit after raising concerns about the data, and a group of 108 economists from around the world questioned whether politicians were trying to influence the figures.

"India must restore the reputational damage suffered to data generation in India across the board, from GDP to employment to government accounts," Subramanian said. "At the same time, the entire methodology and implementation for GDP estimation must be revisited by an independent task force."

The most recent data shows India's growth slowed to a five-year low in the first three months of the year.
 
lol, even the ex CEA disputing GDP numbers...So Arvind Subramanian is now an anti national?
 
"India must restore the reputational damage suffered to data generation in India across the board, from GDP to employment to government accounts," Subramanian said. "At the same time, the entire methodology and implementation for GDP estimation must be revisited by an independent task force."

These are damning comments....
 
There was an interesting article by Adam Roberts published in NY Times back in 2017 he retweeted it today.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Is anyone really surprised that India's actual GDP growth since 2012 or so has been more like 4.5%, not the 7% that official figures claimed?... The smoke and mirrors have been obvious for a while (for example see this from 2017: Modi’s Strongman Economics <a href="https://t.co/wpreNlsaof">https://t.co/wpreNlsaof</a></p>— Adam Roberts (@ARobertsjourno) <a href="https://twitter.com/ARobertsjourno/status/1138452836285603841?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 11, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] - thoughts? You always have opinions on these topics so interested to know how you interpret this
 
Faking 2.5% growth in GDP is huge, absolutely huge.
 
I always knew African countries and some smaller Asian countries outpaced india's economic growth, so the whole "india faastest economy in vurld" made no sense.
 
One important comment is missing here. “The decision had little to do with politics” ie. not entirely a political decision. The decision was taken by the officials during UPA2 after considering a few things.

And it’s not as simple as 4.5+2.5 = 7. That’s a very flawed logic. It’s more like the difference between two methods but then again that would result in changes in GDP associated numbers, so can’t be as simple as a 4.5<7 situation.

Among countries with high GDP India is still the fastest growing economy. It might not be the case in the next couple of years. It’s hitting a plateau and only careful planning can push it forward. Expect tax incentives in the upcoming budget.
 
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Always knew ****** knew more than ex CEA, the one who was privy to all these insider info!
 
[MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] - thoughts? You always have opinions on these topics so interested to know how you interpret this

My initial reaction was that this article is not surprising given that NYT regards Modi as India's Trump and NYT, WaPo, MSNBC and CNN have lost all objectivity.

I did follow the link and scan the article, could not find data to support the contention "4.5% rather than 7%".

Anyway, at this point Modi is back for another 5 years, so we will know better in 2024. At least the World Bank believes that India's GDP growth rate will be 7.5% this year and not 4.5%.

https://www.livemint.com/news/india...th-rate-for-fy19-20-at-7-5-1559706076885.html

Given the controversy over GDP growth rates one could instead look at what is happening with exports as they are the best measure of how competitive hi-tech India's economy is with the rest of the world.

Or one could analyze whether the correct policies are being followed.

Has GST which will unify the Indian tax system been implemented?

Have labor laws and land acquisition laws to encourage FDI been implemented?

To me it appears that Modi is following the necessary business friendly policies.
 
I always knew African countries and some smaller Asian countries outpaced india's economic growth, so the whole "india faastest economy in vurld" made no sense.

This is superficial reasoning. You have to look deeper into what are the components of the GDP. African countries are producers of low tech commodity like items. Their GDPs go up and down depending upon commodity prices or political stability/instability.

India has a substantial amount of modern industries, though only a small portion of the population works in these industries.

You can compare India's, Nigeria's and Egypt's and other countries top exports understand what is happening with these economies.

http://www.worldstopexports.com/indias-top-10-exports/

http://www.worldstopexports.com/nigerias-top-10-exports/

http://www.worldstopexports.com/egypts-top-10-exports/
 
This isn't a surprise, Indian's GDP figures have been under question for a while! The fact that Indian unemployment is at it's highest while GDP growth is allegedly circa 7% is a dead giveaway. Demonetization flopped big time too!

I would not be surprised if GDP growth is under 4%, and if proven the GDP figures were cooked, expect an exodus of foreign money along with trust destroyed.

The Modi effect.
 
There was an interesting article by Adam Roberts published in NY Times back in 2017 he retweeted it today.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Is anyone really surprised that India's actual GDP growth since 2012 or so has been more like 4.5%, not the 7% that official figures claimed?... The smoke and mirrors have been obvious for a while (for example see this from 2017: Modi’s Strongman Economics <a href="https://t.co/wpreNlsaof">https://t.co/wpreNlsaof</a></p>— Adam Roberts (@ARobertsjourno) <a href="https://twitter.com/ARobertsjourno/status/1138452836285603841?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 11, 2019</a></blockquote>
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India's GDP figures were under scrutiny back in 2012!

Indian data reliability under scrutiny after sharp GDP revision

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - India has sharply revised its GDP data to show a much worse economic performance than originally thought in the aftermath of the global financial crisis, putting renewed scrutiny on the reliability of government data.

The Central Statistics Office (CSO) has revised GDP growth to 3.5 percent from earlier estimates of 5.9 percent in the fourth quarter of 2008/09. On the flip side, it also showed the fourth quarter growth estimate for 2009/10 was better than first thought - 11.2 percent rather than 9.4 percent.

The news, first published in India’s Mint newspaper, came as the country braced for the release on Friday of GDP data for this fiscal year’s June quarter, which is likely to show a continued economic slowdown.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...fter-sharp-gdp-revision-idUSBRE87T0L520120830
 
I always knew African countries and some smaller Asian countries outpaced india's economic growth, so the whole "india faastest economy in vurld" made no sense.

Fastest growing major economy. There is a difference.

For someone who has a GDP in the millions - even a substantial loan would provide a huge growth boost.
 
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