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ISLAMABAD: The State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) on Wednesday directed banks to make digital payments easy to discourage people from going to ATMs and banks as the coronavirus continues to spread across the country.

"The objective of these measures is to reduce the need for visiting bank branches or the ATMs and to promote use of Digital Payment Services such as internet banking, mobile phone banking etc," read a statement from the SBP.

The state bank has instructed banks to waive off all charges on online banking channels such as Inter Bank Fund Transfer (IBFT) and SBP’s Real Time Gross Settlement System. People will be able to transfer funds through phones and online.

This will not only be economical for customers but will also help them avoid the use of cash, which can trnasfer the virus to multiple people. The SBP announced that all helplines and call centres will be available to help customers 24/7.

"Financial industry has been instructed to immediately facilitate education fee and loan repayments through internet banking or mobile devices. Financial institutions shall also run awareness campaigns through different channels to educate customers to use internet banking or mobile phones, limit use of currency notes and restrict branch visits. Anticipating any frauds in the wake of digital transactions, SBP has advised financial industry to increase vigilance on digital channels and increase monitoring on cyber threats," read the statement.

Pakistan on Wednesday reported its second coronavirus death, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Health Minister Taimur Khan Jhagra said on Twitter, almost an hour after the first one was confirmed.

The national tally of COVID-19 cases has surpassed 290.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/277991-sb...transaction-charges-amid-coronavirus-outbreak
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1. A long day and a sad night. We have lost two human lives to a challenge the likes of which I have not seen in my life. And yet we must overcome.<br>Can I request for the every influencer, and everyone in the media, to prevail upon the public to do the right thing?</p>— Taimur Khan Jhagra (@Jhagra) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jhagra/status/1240339460778270720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Couch Cricketer said:
My family is asking my dad to stop going for jamaat for a few days but he doesn't listen he is 70 and a cancer survivor. Does anyone know if mosques will be closed in Karachi. He and his masjid friends are in 70s-80s the most affected by this virus but they still wont stop.
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Tableeghi gatherings, marriage hall gatherings e.t.c e.t.c all are banned in Karachi. But the mosques are not closed yet and i am afraid it's not going to happen anytime soon. Because we people aren't taking anything seriously and we are being emotional idiots.
 
Sad that certain people are using this time of crisis to settle their political scores, and upstanding journalists are having to come up with videos like this to dispel widespread propaganda.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shameless misleading and propaganda of some continues in this time of crisis as well! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CoronaInPakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CoronaInPakistan</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID2019?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVID2019</a> <a href="https://t.co/PHbsxHTNCt">https://t.co/PHbsxHTNCt</a> <a href="https://t.co/TiqOLjJQBO">pic.twitter.com/TiqOLjJQBO</a></p>— Shiffa Z. Yousafzai (@Shiffa_ZY) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shiffa_ZY/status/1240189245496659968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Why is there a sudden growth?

Is it community transmission?

Or people (from Iran) in quarantine found positive?
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Why is there a sudden growth?

Is it community transmission?

Or people (from Iran) in quarantine found positive?
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The pilgrims from Iran are being transferred to quarantine centers from Taftan border and being tested.... expect the number of positive cases to touch 2-3k by this time next week.


Another batch of 9000 pilgrims are supposed to return from Saudi soon, who will also be quarantined.


Soon we might surpass all countries expect China, Iran and Italy because our people all collectively decided to go on their respective pilgrimages in these testing times
 
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Countries like Pakistan are unfortunately is in extremely bad position, if you lockdown it means millions will suffer as they depend on day to day work and daily wages and if you don't lockdown, this could spread like wildfire since there is extreme lack of awareness and people simply do not take isolation seriously.
 
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


I refer to this link for accurate numbers for all countries and they seem to be bang on. I noticed today they are showing 13 recovered for Pakistan, but I couldn't find any local source on media or social media to confirm it. I don't know where they got the figure of 13 from.
 
Hermoine Green said:
Tableeghi gatherings, marriage hall gatherings e.t.c e.t.c all are banned in Karachi. But the mosques are not closed yet and i am afraid it's not going to happen anytime soon. Because we people aren't taking anything seriously and we are being emotional idiots.
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Any mass gatherings in enclosed spaces should have been closed down by now. That said, in Britain it has taken until today for the House of Commons to implement a social distancing policy, so it seems the whole world is collectively stupid when it comes to behaviour change.
 
Story of first dead pt read carefully and cooperate with drs and govt
Report
Confirmed case
COVID19
Patient Name: Saadat Khan
D.O.B: 20th January 1970
Gender: Male
Address: Mohallah Piran, UC Mangah, District Mardan
Travel History:
• Departure on 8th March 2020 from Kingdom of Saudia Arabia (Jeddah International Airport)
• Arrival on 9th March 2020 (3:40am) at Pakistan (Peshawar International Airport)
• Pakistan International Airline flight # PK735.
History:
On 8th March 2020, patient Saadat Khan departed from KSA via direct flight of Pakistan International Airlines departing from Jeddah International Airport and arriving at Peshawar International Airport, Pakistan on 9th march 2020. During the flight, patient was accompanied by two of his friends named Alamzeb/male/60years and Kamal ud Din/male/25years. Both friends belong to Mohallah Piran, UC Mangah, District Mardan. All friends went on a visit to KSA for Umrah.
After arriving at his home in UC Mangah, District Mardan on 9th March 2020, family of the patient Saadat Khan arranged a grand gathering at lunch on 9th March 2020 where approximately all villagers attended the gathering and greeted the patient. In his home, patient Saadat lives with his wife, three sons, two daughters in law, three daughters and four grandchildren. Patient Saadat lives in a neighbourhood with his relatives in his native village and meets his relatives frequently and also visits their households.
Patient Saadat Khan was received by Dr. Munazza (Consultant Pulmonologist) in DHQ Hospital Mardan on 16th March 2020 with complains of cough, fever and difficulty in breathing. Dr. Munazza notified the case as suspected patient of COVID19, collected nasopharyngeal swab for investigation and sent to NIH Islamabad through DHO Office Mardan. As per patient, he refused to get quarantined in DHQ Hospital Mardan and preferred staying at home.
On 18th March 2020, laboratory confirmed patient Saadat as confirmed case of COVID19 and a team consisting of Dr. Muhammad Kamal PH Coordinator District Mardan and Dr. Farooq Zia DSO-PEI District Mardan went to track the contacts and shift the patient to Mardan Medical Complex Isolation Centre. As Dr. Munazza has been the first healthcare provider to get in contact with the patient and she is herself experiencing symptoms of cough and sore throat, a sample has been taken from Dr. Munazza and dispatched to NIH Islamabad as per SOPs.
According to the contact Alamzeb, he has not been screened at any airport and has only filled a form at Peshawar International Airport.
Dated 18th March 2020.
The purpose of whole story is that that patient has died now just because pf his casual attitude.
 
Mamoon said:
One patient was confirmed in LRH today. 40 years old and recently returned from Dubai.

He is in critical condition and is on respirator because he has developed ARDS.
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Thank you doc for the update. Did not know about that.
 
DRsohail said:
Story of first dead pt read carefully and cooperate with drs and govt
Report
Confirmed case
COVID19
Patient Name: Saadat Khan
D.O.B: 20th January 1970
Gender: Male
Address: Mohallah Piran, UC Mangah, District Mardan
Travel History:
• Departure on 8th March 2020 from Kingdom of Saudia Arabia (Jeddah International Airport)
• Arrival on 9th March 2020 (3:40am) at Pakistan (Peshawar International Airport)
• Pakistan International Airline flight # PK735.
History:
On 8th March 2020, patient Saadat Khan departed from KSA via direct flight of Pakistan International Airlines departing from Jeddah International Airport and arriving at Peshawar International Airport, Pakistan on 9th march 2020. During the flight, patient was accompanied by two of his friends named Alamzeb/male/60years and Kamal ud Din/male/25years. Both friends belong to Mohallah Piran, UC Mangah, District Mardan. All friends went on a visit to KSA for Umrah.
After arriving at his home in UC Mangah, District Mardan on 9th March 2020, family of the patient Saadat Khan arranged a grand gathering at lunch on 9th March 2020 where approximately all villagers attended the gathering and greeted the patient. In his home, patient Saadat lives with his wife, three sons, two daughters in law, three daughters and four grandchildren. Patient Saadat lives in a neighbourhood with his relatives in his native village and meets his relatives frequently and also visits their households.
Patient Saadat Khan was received by Dr. Munazza (Consultant Pulmonologist) in DHQ Hospital Mardan on 16th March 2020 with complains of cough, fever and difficulty in breathing. Dr. Munazza notified the case as suspected patient of COVID19, collected nasopharyngeal swab for investigation and sent to NIH Islamabad through DHO Office Mardan. As per patient, he refused to get quarantined in DHQ Hospital Mardan and preferred staying at home.
On 18th March 2020, laboratory confirmed patient Saadat as confirmed case of COVID19 and a team consisting of Dr. Muhammad Kamal PH Coordinator District Mardan and Dr. Farooq Zia DSO-PEI District Mardan went to track the contacts and shift the patient to Mardan Medical Complex Isolation Centre. As Dr. Munazza has been the first healthcare provider to get in contact with the patient and she is herself experiencing symptoms of cough and sore throat, a sample has been taken from Dr. Munazza and dispatched to NIH Islamabad as per SOPs.
According to the contact Alamzeb, he has not been screened at any airport and has only filled a form at Peshawar International Airport.
Dated 18th March 2020.
The purpose of whole story is that that patient has died now just because pf his casual attitude.
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OMG he must have infected his entire village.... Ya Allah rahem farma
 
Some good things -

China infection count is very low. They can provide support for testing and infra.
No of recovered patients is 12.
 
DRsohail said:
Story of first dead pt read carefully and cooperate with drs and govt
Report
Confirmed case
COVID19
Patient Name: Saadat Khan
D.O.B: 20th January 1970
Gender: Male
Address: Mohallah Piran, UC Mangah, District Mardan
Travel History:
• Departure on 8th March 2020 from Kingdom of Saudia Arabia (Jeddah International Airport)
• Arrival on 9th March 2020 (3:40am) at Pakistan (Peshawar International Airport)
• Pakistan International Airline flight # PK735.
History:
On 8th March 2020, patient Saadat Khan departed from KSA via direct flight of Pakistan International Airlines departing from Jeddah International Airport and arriving at Peshawar International Airport, Pakistan on 9th march 2020. During the flight, patient was accompanied by two of his friends named Alamzeb/male/60years and Kamal ud Din/male/25years. Both friends belong to Mohallah Piran, UC Mangah, District Mardan. All friends went on a visit to KSA for Umrah.
After arriving at his home in UC Mangah, District Mardan on 9th March 2020, family of the patient Saadat Khan arranged a grand gathering at lunch on 9th March 2020 where approximately all villagers attended the gathering and greeted the patient. In his home, patient Saadat lives with his wife, three sons, two daughters in law, three daughters and four grandchildren. Patient Saadat lives in a neighbourhood with his relatives in his native village and meets his relatives frequently and also visits their households.
Patient Saadat Khan was received by Dr. Munazza (Consultant Pulmonologist) in DHQ Hospital Mardan on 16th March 2020 with complains of cough, fever and difficulty in breathing. Dr. Munazza notified the case as suspected patient of COVID19, collected nasopharyngeal swab for investigation and sent to NIH Islamabad through DHO Office Mardan. As per patient, he refused to get quarantined in DHQ Hospital Mardan and preferred staying at home.
On 18th March 2020, laboratory confirmed patient Saadat as confirmed case of COVID19 and a team consisting of Dr. Muhammad Kamal PH Coordinator District Mardan and Dr. Farooq Zia DSO-PEI District Mardan went to track the contacts and shift the patient to Mardan Medical Complex Isolation Centre. As Dr. Munazza has been the first healthcare provider to get in contact with the patient and she is herself experiencing symptoms of cough and sore throat, a sample has been taken from Dr. Munazza and dispatched to NIH Islamabad as per SOPs.
According to the contact Alamzeb, he has not been screened at any airport and has only filled a form at Peshawar International Airport.
Dated 18th March 2020.
The purpose of whole story is that that patient has died now just because pf his casual attitude.
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This is terrible, people from decent wealth in rural areas are so hard to convince and have numbers in support who resist medics and prefer staying at home. This jaahil mentality of sub continent not understanding situational gravity is sickening :facepalm:
 
In India govt is filing cases against ones who do not comply with isolation rules and are putting others lives at risk. Pak should do the same. These people should be put in some military dungeons.

Also in my city people under isolation are getting marked on hands so that others are aware and can raise an alarm. Yesterday 2 german tourists who were supposed to be in isolation were out in a train and public raised an alarm , stopped the train . Those Germans were taken away.
 
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AamchiMumbaikar said:
In India govt is filing cases against ones who do not comply with isolation rules and are putting others lives at risk. Pak should do the same. These people should be put in some military dungeons.

Also in my city people under isolation are getting marked on hands so that others are aware and can raise an alarm. Yesterday 2 german tourists who were supposed to be in isolation were out in a train and public raised an alarm , stopped the train . Those Germans were taken away.
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Cannot understand why educated foreigners putting a whole country at risk.. they should be put behind bars
 
We are taking decisions that are reactive than proactive.

It is just not Pakistan
 
Pakistan should also use some kind of stamps on the hands of individuals who r meant to self isolate or else we desi ppl will not listen.
 
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Cases in Balochistan rise to 45

Cases in Balochistan have increased from 23 to 45, said Liaquat Shahwani, spokesperson of the provincial government.
 
15 new cases in KP, total rises to 34

Khyber Pakhtunkhwa has confirmed 15 new cases of coronavirus in the province, taking the total tally to 34.

With the new cases, Pakistan's total tally is now 341.
 
Abdullah719 said:
15 new cases in KP, total rises to 34

Khyber Pakhtunkhwa has confirmed 15 new cases of coronavirus in the province, taking the total tally to 34.

With the new cases, Pakistan's total tally is now 341.
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Rise will continue, people are not taking seriously any government orders or Doctors precautions.
 
Corona virus might not kill us but our fake news media certainly will...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">4 new cases of COVID-19 have been confirmed in KP. 2 patients have foreign travel history, 1 is a relative of a previously confirmed case and 1 has no travel history or known contact with a confirmed case. Total confirmed cases in KP are 23 now. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CoronainPakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CoronainPakistan</a></p>— Health Department KP (@HealthKPGovt) <a href="https://twitter.com/HealthKPGovt/status/1240593126798118912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Please not that earlier news of 15 new confirmed cases as reported in media were incorrect.</p>— Health Department KP (@HealthKPGovt) <a href="https://twitter.com/HealthKPGovt/status/1240593563517321216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It is sad and unfortunate that in these testing times some people find the opportunity to publish their imagination as news. Statement attributed to CM Punjab in <a href="https://twitter.com/dawn_com?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dawn_com</a>'s article is absolutely rubbish, baseless & fake<br>GoP is starting legal action against writer & publisher 1/2</p>— Government of Punjab (@GOPunjabPK) <a href="https://twitter.com/GOPunjabPK/status/1240566363044921345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">for their irresponsible and unprofessional behavior and we also urge <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/APNS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#APNS</a> and regulatory bodies to take strict action, as we cannot allow anyone to create panic and push their ulterior agendas in these testing times. 2/2</p>— Government of Punjab (@GOPunjabPK) <a href="https://twitter.com/GOPunjabPK/status/1240566365599207425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


If legal action is taken against fake news they claim attack on freedom of press
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Following is the update of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID%E3%83%BC19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVIDー19</a> affected people in Sindh as on 19.03.20 at 3 PM:<br><br>Positive =62<br>Cured=2<br>Under treatment =60<br><br>Pilgrims Sukkur <br>Total tests conducted 302<br>Negative 151<br>Positive 151<br><br>Grand Total 213</p>— SenatorMurtaza Wahab (@murtazawahab1) <a href="https://twitter.com/murtazawahab1/status/1240587621677633536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


General population cases increased by 5 in Sindh, quarantine cases didn't increase because I think fresh batch of pilgrims hasn't reached yet. Calm before the storm.
 
45 new cases confirmed in Punjab, tally rises to 78

Punjab Health Minister Yasmeen Rashid has said that 45 new coronavirus cases have been confirmed in the province.

This takes the tally of cases in Punjab to 78.
 
Does pak health ministry have a website with official count, it will be better to follow than twitter/ media.
 
Armed forces deploying all resources to help govt control COVID-19: DG ISPR

Maj Gen Babar Iftikhar, the director general of Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), says the Pakistan Army has been "in action" from day one to help the federal and provincial governments control the spread of COVID-19.

Addressing a presser alongside government officials, he said the armed forces are deploying all resources to help the public together with civil institutions.

Medical facilities of armed forces being readied for 'extreme' situation, says DG ISPR

The head of the military's media wing, Maj Gen Babar Iftikhar, has announced that measures are being taken to make the armed forces' medical facilities available for an "extreme emergency" situation.

He said a load management of patients is taking place and only elective surgeries are being performed at the facilities so that they can be used during emergencies.

Pakistan Army scientists manufacturing face masks, sanitisers: ISPR chief

DG ISPR Maj Gen Babar Iftikhar says Pakistan Army scientists are researching and manufacturing personal protection equipment, face masks and hand sanitisers.
 
Good news

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Third patient of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID%E3%83%BC19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVIDー19</a> in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Sindh?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Sindh</a> who was being kept in isolation has Alhamdolillah recovered & has tested negative</p>— SenatorMurtaza Wahab (@murtazawahab1) <a href="https://twitter.com/murtazawahab1/status/1240668936879947777?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Reports Pakistan’s coronavirus cases increased by 141 today - total now is 448.
 
Even if I do get the virus,I am not that worried for myself. I just hope that it doesn't get to my grandfather (who lives with us) or my maternal grandparents,who already have a few health issues.

There have been reports of a case 1km from my place.
 
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Arham_PakFan said:
I just checked the official government site and it says 326 cases, 73 new cases in the last 24 hours.

http://covid.gov.pk/
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The recent jump is because of the zaireen being housed in DG Khan, Multan and Sukkur quarantines that are being tested and increasingly turning positive. In total we will get about 7000 zaireen. Expect Pakistan's total figure to jump to 3-4k in a week or two. However, the zaireen are under quarantine, so less risk. More risk are the human to human transmission, which also seems to be happening.

May Allah be with us.
 
Today is Friday and there is no mosque congregation ban like in UAE, Turkey or Saudi Arabia.

Be brave and take strong descions, no matter what people say. Spineless cowards
 
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overheard a conversation between a friend and a v senior doc in karachi today, she sounded so panicked, said the number of cases coming in was overwhelming, the numbers, as is the case with every country, and substantial underestimates.

wash your hands with soap every few hours, avoid sharing food or drink, keep distance where possible and avoid touching people. stay safe ppl.
 
ElRaja said:
overheard a conversation between a friend and a v senior doc in karachi today, she sounded so panicked, said the number of cases coming in was overwhelming, the numbers, as is the case with every country, and substantial underestimates.

wash your hands with soap every few hours, avoid sharing food or drink, keep distance where possible and avoid touching people. stay safe ppl.
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Extremely worrying signs
 
Syed1 said:
The pilgrims from Iran are being transferred to quarantine centers from Taftan border and being tested.... expect the number of positive cases to touch 2-3k by this time next week.


Another batch of 9000 pilgrims are supposed to return from Saudi soon, who will also be quarantined.


Soon we might surpass all countries expect China, Iran and Italy because our people all collectively decided to go on their respective pilgrimages in these testing times
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Yeah makes sense.

I guess Pakistan needs 2 sets of stats.

Quarantine results and local transmission results.
 
shah_1 said:
Today is Friday and there is no mosque congregation ban like in UAE, Turkey or Saudi Arabia.

Be brave and take strong descions, no matter what people say. Spineless cowards
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When Saudi itself have banned jumma prayers, what's wrong with Pak? You are an islamic nation no one will even protest citing this as snubbing minorities...
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
When Saudi itself have banned jumma prayers, what's wrong with Pak? You are an islamic nation no one will even protest citing this as snubbing minorities...
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This is why Army needs to take over for three months. Our leaders are cowards infront of Mullah. They are making decisions that are not politically damaging for them.
 
Some positive stuff

This from a tweet by a pak journalist - Passengers arriving in Canada praising Pakistan

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shah_1 said:
This is why Army needs to take over for three months. Our leaders are cowards infront of Mullah. They are making decisions that are not politically damaging for them.
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People are giving a free pass to Immy. And for most leaders.

Yes, it's hard to control it in Pakistan.

Yes, it's hard to change people's behavior.

But has Imran tried his best?

Not by a LONG shot.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
People are giving a free pass to Immy. And for most leaders.

Yes, it's hard to control it in Pakistan.

Yes, it's hard to change people's behavior.

But has Imran tried his best?

Not by a LONG shot.
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His supporters on this forum defend him and ask what he could have done. and then you read this: https://tribune.com.pk/story/218000...ening-pak-afg-border-despite-global-pandemic/

Not sure what explanation would come for this from his supporters other than the cliche "brothers and sisters" which doesn't make sense in this situation.

We are facing the consequences of this govt's poor decisions when they kept the land border opened with Iran. No vision at all from this government!
 
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Federal Govt has removed condition of presenting Covid_19 certificate when arriving at any airport in Pakistan. Civil Aviation Authority has issued new NOTAM. 1st Iran border, then opening Pak-Afghan border & now this. Someone in govt is trying hard to spread
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
People are giving a free pass to Immy. And for most leaders.

Yes, it's hard to control it in Pakistan.

Yes, it's hard to change people's behavior.

But has Imran tried his best?

Not by a LONG shot.
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What he should do? Gov ordered to close Iran border, people and media shouted.

Govt order to check everyone at Airport and ask for Covid test, people and media opposed it.

Govt ordered to close Pak Afghan border, media and people opposed it.

And there are many other things. In Pakistan, people are playing politics over this situation, especially media.
 
Hermoine Green said:
What he should do? Gov ordered to close Iran border, people and media shouted.

Govt order to check everyone at Airport and ask for Covid test, people and media opposed it.

Govt ordered to close Pak Afghan border, media and people opposed it.

And there are many other things. In Pakistan, people are playing politics over this situation, especially media.
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And thats why we are seeing changes in orders and decisions from our PM.
 
Hermoine Green said:
What he should do? Gov ordered to close Iran border, people and media shouted.

Govt order to check everyone at Airport and ask for Covid test, people and media opposed it.

Govt ordered to close Pak Afghan border, media and people opposed it.

And there are many other things. In Pakistan, people are playing politics over this situation, especially media.
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No one is playing politics except the government. Stop putting the blame on the people or media. It is the government's responsibility to take stern actions rather than following the flow.

Government didn't close any border with Iran. Government put everyone in the camps in Taftan and made sure that even if someone is not infected, he should get infected with the virus.

People are even questioning why the airports are not closed as yet. The government has reacted very late on this and their management in Taftan is nothing less than a criminal act. Stop defending the government and putting everything on others.
 
Hermoine Green said:
1st death in Karachi today :(
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First death reported from Sindh

Sindh health minister Dr Azra Fazal Pechuho has confirmed the death of a 77-year-old coronavirus patient in Sindh.

The patient, a resident of Karachi, was a cancer survivor and had diabetes and hypertension but did not have any travel or contact history.
 
Hermoine Green said:
What he should do? Gov ordered to close Iran border, people and media shouted.

Govt order to check everyone at Airport and ask for Covid test, people and media opposed it.

Govt ordered to close Pak Afghan border, media and people opposed it.

And there are many other things. In Pakistan, people are playing politics over this situation, especially media.
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Ok good question.

1. Close out all the inflow to Pakistan. Atleast from the countries where there are high cases. Has he done that?

2. Announce lockdown of high risk areas. Has he done that?

3. Order places of gathering to be shut down. I know its hard but has he announced that?

4. Run more tests (something which India has to do too tbh).

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You keep saying people shouted so he backed out?

Is Imran the PM or not?

Demand more from your leader.

If he does his best and still things go bad, no one would blame him.

Right now, he is not doing enough. Not even close.

And just for the record, you might have a WHO official here or there who say India/Pakistan is doing well...It doesn't mean much as they may have stated it in a certain context...

Realities of the ground matter.

Containment and testing - 2 factors that matter.

Testing - we can leave aside as Imran may be acting upon advice but containment is his RESPONSIBILITY 100%.
 
Hermoine Green said:
What he should do? Gov ordered to close Iran border, people and media shouted.

Govt order to check everyone at Airport and ask for Covid test, people and media opposed it.

Govt ordered to close Pak Afghan border, media and people opposed it.

And there are many other things. In Pakistan, people are playing politics over this situation, especially media.
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And so the govt decided to give in to pressure from 'people and media'. Because stopping people from playing politics and maintaining a favorable public opinion is more important than saving lives.
 
This government has taken credit of WHO praise (when it was directed to Sindh government) and when people questions the rationale behind opening the borders, airports and not taking strict measurements, their supporters have the audacity to put the blame on media and people.

For God sake, stop defending the government on this. It is their responsibility to take strigent actions rather than lip service.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Ok good question.

1. Close out all the inflow to Pakistan. Atleast from the countries where there are high cases. Has he done that?

2. Announce lockdown of high risk areas. Has he done that?

3. Order places of gathering to be shut down. I know its hard but has he announced that?

4. Run more tests (something which India has to do too tbh).

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You keep saying people shouted so he backed out?

Is Imran the PM or not?

Demand more from your leader.

If he does his best and still things go bad, no one would blame him.

Right now, he is not doing enough. Not even close.

And just for the record, you might have a WHO official here or there who say India/Pakistan is doing well...It doesn't mean much as they may have stated it in a certain context...

Realities of the ground matter.

Containment and testing - 2 factors that matter.

Testing - we can leave aside as Imran may be acting upon advice but containment is his RESPONSIBILITY 100%.
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Well summarized.

Today, I was reading that the PSL coverage crew from India were allowed by Pakistan to go via Wagah border whereas their visa mentioned that they are allowed to travel by air. India refused to take them back and now they will be landing India via airports so India can do their proper screening upon their arrival.

This sums the mentality of the government and its officials. They are not taking it serious and just hoping that it will fade away. You just cannot keep putting blame on the people as they will always try to find the easiest way out. It is government's responsibility to take stern actions so the virus doesn't spread much.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Ok good question.

1. Close out all the inflow to Pakistan. Atleast from the countries where there are high cases. Has he done that?

2. Announce lockdown of high risk areas. Has he done that?

3. Order places of gathering to be shut down. I know its hard but has he announced that?

4. Run more tests (something which India has to do too tbh).

----

You keep saying people shouted so he backed out?

Is Imran the PM or not?

Demand more from your leader.

If he does his best and still things go bad, no one would blame him.

Right now, he is not doing enough. Not even close.

And just for the record, you might have a WHO official here or there who say India/Pakistan is doing well...It doesn't mean much as they may have stated it in a certain context...

Realities of the ground matter.

Containment and testing - 2 factors that matter.

Testing - we can leave aside as Imran may be acting upon advice but containment is his RESPONSIBILITY 100%.
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Sadly, it is the government who is playing politics here. WHO officials visited hospitals in Karachi, met Sindh provincial officials and gave feedback on that. IK tweeted on that and took credit for that praise.

And when he gave speech to the nation, he praised Baluchistan's government (who are responsible for that Taftan disaster along side the federal govenment) and didn't even mention anything about Sindh's govt & their commendable efforts.

So, to the supporters of PTI who are claiming that others are playing politics on this matter. It is actually the opposite. It is the government and their beloved PTI who is playing politics on this.
 
natkhat-shahzada said:
Sadly, it is the government who is playing politics here. WHO officials visited hospitals in Karachi, met Sindh provincial officials and gave feedback on that. IK tweeted on that and took credit for that praise.

And when he gave speech to the nation, he praised Baluchistan's government (who are responsible for that Taftan disaster along side the federal govenment) and didn't even mention anything about Sindh's govt & their commendable efforts.

So, to the supporters of PTI who are claiming that others are playing politics on this matter. It is actually the opposite. It is the government and their beloved PTI who is playing politics on this.
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Oh damn...

That's just sad man.

As you said, people will be people trying to take easy routes (especially desis who are hopeless).

Govt has to be more firm and try its hardest.
 
Jin Chacha said:
And so the govt decided to give in to pressure from 'people and media'. Because stopping people from playing politics and maintaining a favorable public opinion is more important than saving lives.
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Looks like it

Not looking bad is more important than saving lives
 
I didn’t pray in the mosque but just looked at overall strength of congregation from outside. It was fully packed.

I was horrified to see that. It will spread like a wildfire
 
shah_1 said:
I didn’t pray in the mosque but just looked at overall strength of congregation from outside. It was fully packed.

I was horrified to see that. It will spread like a wildfire
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I am have always supported IK because I feel whatever his shortcomings may be, his heart is always in the right place. However, the responsibility for not stopping jumma prayers rests squarely on the govts shoulders. Yes, the people won’t have listened even if the govt had ordered a ban but that doesn’t mean you just give up and don’t even try to stop them. The govts position that only old people and people with travel history avoid mosques is the most ridiculous thing I have heard. Old people in our culture don’t live isolated in old homes. They live with their families. If I go to the mosque and become infected, I will go back home and become a death sentence for my parents.
 
Jin Chacha said:
I am have always supported IK because I feel whatever his shortcomings may be, his heart is always in the right place. However, the responsibility for not stopping jumma prayers rests squarely on the govts shoulders. Yes, the people won’t have listened even if the govt had ordered a ban but that doesn’t mean you just give up and don’t even try to stop them. The govts position that only old people and people with travel history avoid mosques is the most ridiculous thing I have heard. Old people in our culture don’t live isolated in old homes. They live with their families. If I go to the mosque and become infected, I will go back home and become a death sentence for my parents.
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Crazy advice lol
 
shah_1 said:
I didn’t pray in the mosque but just looked at overall strength of congregation from outside. It was fully packed.

I was horrified to see that. It will spread like a wildfire
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https://twitter.com/am_nawazish/status/1240684500381659136

Why are you singling out the people only? What about the authorities. Please see above and this happened today. Apart from people, government is too taking the epidemic lightly.
 
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