Could BCCI be intentionally sabotaging ICC events to keep IPL above a level?

[cricketjoshila]

Not allowed? How many Indian cricketers will care about their BCCI pensions or their place in the Indian national team if they are being paid USD 20-30 million per year to play in the Saudi league?

The BCCI will cave and allow them to play because 90% of their players would give an arm for that much cash. Either that or they play a 'D' team for a couple of world cups, get thrashed and are then forced to backtrack.

This isn't a number that came out of nowhere. This is what the Saudi league plans to offer the likes of Stokes. He spoke about it, you should read it.

The BCCI wont need to do anything. The fan and political reaction will be enough to stop the players.

Gavaskar and co. didn't sign up for the WSC because of the fan reaction once the news leaked in the media.

 

[Major]

They think of it as an accounting exercise. These guys cheer tv rights deals like its money landing in their own bank accounts.

exactly, that has to be the dumbest thing ever, and alot of posters get dragged into that discussion.

Who the hell celebrates money being made by a third person that is not gonna be spent on you. Even with that much money, these Indians can never get the services in their home country which they get at Australian and English grounds.

Even today, people would love to watch a game of cricket at Lords with those commentary ear piece, rather than sit in an empty modi concrete structure and stair at saffron chairs.

 

[U$ofA]

Not allowed? How many Indian cricketers will care about their BCCI pensions or their place in the Indian national team if they are being paid USD 20-30 million per year to play in the Saudi league?

The BCCI will cave and allow them to play because 90% of their players would give an arm for that much cash. Either that or they play a 'D' team for a couple of world cups, get thrashed and are then forced to backtrack.

This isn't a number that came out of nowhere. This is what the Saudi league plans to offer the likes of Stokes. He spoke about it, you should read it.

Really? Is the market that big there? Something does not add up.

 

[happydavy]

I normally discard such conspiracy theories as the one posted by OP, but I do feel there is some truth to this theory. BCCI isn't doing any PR/marketing in this WC, no opening ceremony, ticketing fiasco isn't over yet as the ones who have purchased tickets from bookmyshow haven't recieved the physical tickets yet. I give another example. One of BCCI commercial partners (want to avoid naming it), who as part of their contract with bcci get X number of hospitality tickets who in turn distribute to its customers as part of some offers, got the physical tickets for eng NZ match at 11 am in their office in Mumbai when the match was to start 3 hours later in Ahmedabad. If course they were pissed as those tickets went wasted. Just too many things happening which raise suspicion.

 

[boomboomcheema]

BCCI are definitely trying to sabotage it..giving an impression of an empty stadium by organising it in the most crowded one.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I normally discard such conspiracy theories as the one posted by OP, but I do feel there is some truth to this theory. BCCI isn't doing any PR/marketing in this WC, no opening ceremony, ticketing fiasco isn't over yet as the ones who have purchased tickets from bookmyshow haven't recieved the physical tickets yet. I give another example. One of BCCI commercial partners (want to avoid naming it), who as part of their contract with bcci get X number of hospitality tickets who in turn distribute to its customers as part of some offers, got the physical tickets for eng NZ match at 11 am in their office in Mumbai when the match was to start 3 hours later in Ahmedabad. If course they were pissed as those tickets went wasted. Just too many things happening which raise suspicion.

Ticketing and scheduling has been poor. No doubt about it.

 

[ChennaiFan]

Totally agree. You seem to be Chennai fan and I was there yday and to my surprise hardly anyone cared about upcoming ind-aus match. No excitement at all amongst the masses.

Oh I see, hope you liked your visit to our best sports-loving city!
Yes, the WC craze we saw 10 years ago is not there now. Also, the ticket price esp. for the good stands is a contributing factor. Still, it will be a sold-out game. I am away now; otherwise, I would definitely go and watch the match.

 

[saqib.rai]

If Olympic boxing isn't a significant event why have so many of the past champions participated in the event.

Holyfield Lennox Lewis Oscar De La Hoya Mayweather Wladimir Klitschko all participated in olympics.

Tyson Fury tried to get into the Olympic games via two different countries.

As i said, your personal opinion is your personal opinion. It doesn't change the status of olympic games.

Its only 10 years that government started investing in sports. Sports wasn't a priority area. Whatever was done in cricket was via private sponsorship.

This Asian games India will cross 100 medals.

As more and more money comes into sports more people will breakthrough.

Hockey rules changed in 80s. From grass to astro turf. This made it prohibitively expensive for Indians to compete. The game changed from being based on dribbling to being based on fitness. Now that government and private sponsors are increasingly putting money and laying astro turf at various venues, Indian hockey is reviving. As the team is competing well, fans are coming back.

India is ranked 3 in hockey.

Korea is ranked 10
Malaysia 12
Japan 15

All above pakistan. Start respecting others.

Fact is: Its your personal opinion and you can have it. Doesn't affect India.

No Indian is in the top 100 pound for pound ranking in boxing. Let's just end it there.

Hockey rules changed for Pakistan as well still we won the World Cup in 1994 and STILL PAKISTAN IS THE COUNTRY WITH MOST WORLD CUP WINS IN HOCKEY. A far better head to head record vs India as well.

Hundred medals in Asian Games where China has crossed 350. Hundred medals in Asian Games and only 1 Gold in Olympics.

Let's just end by saying that with the population India has, it has a pathetic record in all sports including cricket.

 

[Bhaijaan]

It’s pretty obvious now that world cricket is merely an afterthought for BCCI.

This is the first in history that there’s absolutely no hype or marketing for such a big tournament. It’s an obvious attempt from BCCI.

 

[U$ofA]

It’s pretty obvious now that world cricket is merely an afterthought for BCCI.

This is the first in history that there’s absolutely no hype or marketing for such a big tournament. It’s an obvious attempt from BCCI.

Clearly. BCCI will never let anything supersede IPL. All other versions of the sport are secondary.

 

[U$ofA]

BCCI are definitely trying to sabotage it..giving an impression of an empty stadium by organising it in the most crowded one.

International cricket has become secondary to the BCCI. Even for the Indian fans. IPL is king. Proof is there for all to see. People in stadiums, eyeballs on TV, fan involvement outside of the games. IPL is ahead on India internationals.

So, I don't think the BCCI even needs to try to sabotage. They just need to give helping nudge, rest will happen on it's own. Minimal effort, maximum result!

 

[BouncerGuy]

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[happydavy]

Once the corporates enter a space they want the entire market share, not a small part of market. Cricket signed it's death warrant when Subhash Chandra started ICL and then BCCI started IPL. Since then cricket is a commercial entity and not the sports that many of us would like it to be. Unfortunately there's nothing we can do to stop it now. When millions of dollars are thrown at you, the feeling of playing sport for your nation ceases to exist, you play it for the money and lifestyle.

 

[Varun]

Even Sachin is tweeting only about the Asian Games.

The message is loud and clear. The best days for cricket in India are behind us.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

The funny thing about all of this is that it was the ECB that pushed for T20 cricket since the younger generation there didn't care about 50 overs because England sucked at the format back then


The BCCI opposed it tooth and nail but got no support from the other boards and was forced to play World T20.

Now, we are faced with a situation where private equity has come into the sport and wrecked the calendar .

ICC in their greed want to play as many ICC tournaments as possible and we ended up playing 2 World T20's back to back which was absolutely pathetic.

And in a grand gesture of tokenism towards the game's traditions, started a WTC that most players and teams outside of the Big 3 don't really want to play.

 

[U$ofA]

The funny thing about all of this is that it was the ECB that pushed for T20 cricket since the younger generation there didn't care about 50 overs because England sucked at the format back then


The BCCI opposed it tooth and nail but got no support from the other boards and was forced to play World T20.

Now, we are faced with a situation where private equity has come into the sport and wrecked the calendar .

ICC in their greed want to play as many ICC tournaments as possible and we ended up playing 2 World T20's back to back which was absolutely pathetic.

And in a grand gesture of tokenism towards the game's traditions, started a WTC that most players and teams outside of the Big 3 don't really want to play.

Let alone the players, I don't think majority of the boards want to play. The ICC, they don't even want to touch WTC with a ten foot pole. ICC wants no part of WTC.

 

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[Nikhil_cric]

Let alone the players, I don't think majority of the boards want to play. The ICC, they don't even want to touch WTC with a ten foot pole. ICC wants no part of WTC.

There's way too much ICC cricket going on(CWC in 2019, WT20 in 2021, WT20 in 2022 and CWC in 2023 ) and in this World Cup cycle, we have seen league expansion with The Hundred and SA 20 as well.

Something absolutely has to give. The wiser decision will be to remove the importance of Test nation status and remove a structured Test cycle, only have Test series on an ad-hoc, bilateral basis, and have fewer but better structured ODI bilateral cricket leading up to a World Cup once in 4 years.

Lesser but more meaningful ICC cricket is the answer not the nonsense we have now.

 

[Technics 1210]

The solution is simple.

Since IPL is not a ICC tournament or league, and since BCCI are sabotaging the World Cup and have no interest in ICC tournaments, kick BCCI out of the ICC, and expand the World T20 globally.

Create world T20 leagues consisting of 20 international teams (excluding India), and every 4 years:

ODI World Cup + T20 Championship
T20 World Cup + T20 Championship
Test World Cup + T20 Championship
T20 World Cup + T20 Championship

Or something similar.

ICC and other teams will not need to rely on BCCI media revenue, because the combined revenue of teams outside of India will make Indian revenue look like pocket change. Heck, USA T20 team would be enough!

 

[U$ofA]

The solution is simple.

Since IPL is not a ICC tournament or league, and since BCCI are sabotaging the World Cup and have no interest in ICC tournaments, kick BCCI out of the ICC, and expand the World T20 globally.

Create world T20 leagues consisting of 20 international teams (excluding India), and every 4 years:

ODI World Cup + T20 Championship
T20 World Cup + T20 Championship
Test World Cup + T20 Championship
T20 World Cup + T20 Championship

Or something similar.

ICC and other teams will not need to rely on BCCI media revenue, because the combined revenue of teams outside of India will make Indian revenue look like pocket change. Heck, USA T20 team would be enough!

If there is so much money to be made, why has the ICC not attempted it? Especially since ICC seems to be dancing to BCCI's tunes.

Do we chalk this up to ICC incompetence and laziness? If so, how do we know that ICC can accomplish what you suggest? What track record of the ICC gives out the vibe that they can pull this off?

 

[Mas-LFC]

Something doesn’t feel right about this CWC. No opening ceremony. Back in 2011 Bangladesh put on a good opening ceremony which also included all 3 nations plus Runa Laila’s Pakistani mast Kalandar song!

India failed on this. Huge stadium, should have showcased its culture and what not to the world in the biggest icc event. Bcci must be just too big headed arrogant and ignorant bunch.

 

[FPresidential]

Wh

Even Sachin is tweeting only about the Asian Games.

The message is loud and clear. The best days for cricket in India are behind us.

Why sabotage the game if it’s intentional?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

The solution is simple.

Since IPL is not a ICC tournament or league, and since BCCI are sabotaging the World Cup and have no interest in ICC tournaments, kick BCCI out of the ICC, and expand the World T20 globally.

Create world T20 leagues consisting of 20 international teams (excluding India), and every 4 years:

ODI World Cup + T20 Championship
T20 World Cup + T20 Championship
Test World Cup + T20 Championship
T20 World Cup + T20 Championship

Or something similar.

ICC and other teams will not need to rely on BCCI media revenue, because the combined revenue of teams outside of India will make Indian revenue look like pocket change. Heck, USA T20 team would be enough!

Test - No one is interested playing a game for 5 days that ends in a draw LOL.

ODI - 7 HOURS - good luck in convincing USA to play for 7 hours.

T20 - feasible but it will take 50 years before other teams catch up to skill of remaining member teams.

1. Can ICC survive for 50 years without Indian money?

2. Will other member nations be emotional like you and want to kick India out or is it just Pakistani fans who hate Indian hegemony?

3. If not, then its more probable ICC will kick out Pakistan for trying to kick out India.

If 3 is more possible than 2, then why should anyone risk either 2 and 3 simply because we are tired of India.

 

[Technics 1210]

Test - No one is interested playing a game for 5 days that ends in a draw LOL.

ODI - 7 HOURS - good luck in convincing USA to play for 7 hours.

T20 - feasible but it will take 50 years before other teams catch up to skill of remaining member teams.

1. Can ICC survive for 50 years without Indian money?

2. Will other member nations be emotional like you and want to kick India out or is it just Pakistani fans who hate Indian hegemony?

3. If not, then its more probable ICC will kick out Pakistan for trying to kick out India.

If 3 is more possible than 2, then why should anyone risk either 2 and 3 simply because we are tired of India.

Have you recovered from the humiliation yesterday?

Provide more mature answers instead of Pakistan vs India dross.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Have you recovered from the humiliation yesterday?

Provide more mature answers instead of Pakistan vs India dross.

Huh?

Are u going to troll again?

I already said before start of match Pakistan will win vs Netherlands.

Because your mediocre thoughts are fixated on things like Netherlands, you are jumping for joy for winning against associate nation.

Difference : I know Pakistan will win against Netherlands level team.

You : jumping for joy

Enjoy rest of your day trolling other threads.

I am done.

 

[IMMY69]

I'm not sure if there has been any deliberate act but these wickets are killing cricket.

Just no balance between bat and ball

 

[Technics 1210]

If there is so much money to be made, why has the ICC not attempted it? Especially since ICC seems to be dancing to BCCI's tunes.

Do we chalk this up to ICC incompetence and laziness? If so, how do we know that ICC can accomplish what you suggest? What track record of the ICC gives out the vibe that they can pull this off?

T20 will be featured in the Olympics, 2028 Los Angeles Games or the 2032 Brisbane, so within 10 years the game will go mega global.

 

[Bilal7]

The BCCI wont need to do anything. The fan and political reaction will be enough to stop the players.

Gavaskar and co. didn't sign up for the WSC because of the fan reaction once the news leaked in the media.

I'd love to see the BJP try to stop their players from joining the Saudi league. Modi isn't dumb enough to upset any of the Gulf states.

And no one cares about the opinions of the average Indian fan. When soccer players have made that move, no cricket player would be afraid of "fans".

How many of these fans are dying to go to the Gulf again?

 

[Statpadder Inc]

I'd love to see the BJP try to stop their players from joining the Saudi league. Modi isn't dumb enough to upset any of the Gulf states.

And no one cares about the opinions of the average Indian fan. When soccer players have made that move, no cricket player would be afraid of "fans".

How many of these fans are dying to go to the Gulf again?

No indians fans are going to watch a Saudi league built on the destruction of the IPL and there is no appetite in India for playing cricket with Pakistan. You need to stop coping bruh, IPL is the biggest cricketing league in the world and will remain so and the BCCI will always be the richest board in the world. And Pakistan will have to feed off scraps and be excluded by Indian cricket. The psl is a league for players who weren't good enough for the IPL

 

[saqib.rai]

The solution is simple.

Since IPL is not a ICC tournament or league, and since BCCI are sabotaging the World Cup and have no interest in ICC tournaments, kick BCCI out of the ICC, and expand the World T20 globally.

Create world T20 leagues consisting of 20 international teams (excluding India), and every 4 years:

ODI World Cup + T20 Championship
T20 World Cup + T20 Championship
Test World Cup + T20 Championship
T20 World Cup + T20 Championship

Or something similar.

ICC and other teams will not need to rely on BCCI media revenue, because the combined revenue of teams outside of India will make Indian revenue look like pocket change. Heck, USA T20 team would be enough!

Its shocking that you have some 12000 posts and still have zero knowledge about how the cricket ecosystem works.

As soon as I turned 13 (became a teenager) I stopped imagining scenarios in my head that would never happen.

Do you have any idea about the cricket watching audience worldwide? How much of it is Indian?

Do you have any idea that majority boards around the world would not be able to pay their domestic/registered cricketers salaries if India stops touring them?

Cricket is a third tier sport in all countries apart from South Asia. And just look at the economic situation of countries in South Asia (Pakistan, Sri Lanka)
Only India is doing well cricket revenue wise as it's a world beater in reproduction.

 

[globetrotter]

Is BCCi trying to sabotage this current world cup for the sake of making IPL a bigger marquee event?

The opening ceremony not taking place is really a concern because India loves to do these ceremonies hefore any major event.

Than a chunk of the tickets were not sold to public but given out to corporate friends.

Plus, the schduling was change around alot.

Would any of these issues existed in IPL?

Could it be that they want the charm of ICC events to go down for IPL?

Anyone can purchase Tickets are available online for all matches..... lots of media reported empty ahmedabad stadium for Eng-NZ match, but capacity of the stadium is 132000.....47000 spectators present when NZ were batting despite no India in the match.... If stadium capacity 50000, then it would have look full.

 

[Bilal7]

No indians fans are going to watch a Saudi league built on the destruction of the IPL and there is no appetite in India for playing cricket with Pakistan. You need to stop coping bruh, IPL is the biggest cricketing league in the world and will remain so and the BCCI will always be the richest board in the world. And Pakistan will have to feed off scraps and be excluded by Indian cricket. The psl is a league for players who weren't good enough for the IPL

You're a nobody who doesn't speak for billions of Indians worldwide who really don't care that much. They'll watch the league with the best players and the league with the best players will be the one with the most money. Right now, it is the BCCI but once Saudi enters this market, that will no longer be the case.

I also fail to see why you're living vicariously through a sports body. Instead of worrying about how much other companies are earning, focus on yourself and lift yourself out of poverty.

 

[Technics 1210]

IPL numbers are dwindling.

Everyone knows this.

It's the retire league.

As for the World Cup, even India vs Australia was 25% empty, and this despite Indians claiming India vs Australia is a bigger rivalry than Pakistan vs India.

On Saturday, the importance of Pakistan will be shown, not only do we get to see the opening ceremony but a packed stadium, where everyone will hear the Pakistan national anthem.

Such is the pulling power of Pakistan.

 

[U$ofA]

IPL numbers are dwindling.

Everyone knows this.

It's the retire league.

As for the World Cup, even India vs Australia was 25% empty, and this despite Indians claiming India vs Australia is a bigger rivalry than Pakistan vs India.

On Saturday, the importance of Pakistan will be shown, not only do we get to see the opening ceremony but a packed stadium, where everyone will hear the Pakistan national anthem.

Such is the pulling power of Pakistan.

Surprising, since the IPL just inked the largest broadcasting in deal in cricket history. Which means they expect a boatload of people watching. At the same time I do not want to dismiss your statement. I am assuming that are basing it on facts you read/researched. Just that I find it hard to believe the interest in on a downward trend.

The retiree league is also something I have to challenge. I would say it is the opposite. Almost all the current players who are at the top of their game play. Pretty much a who-is-who in cricket. Though there are a few who are at the end of their careers. Warner, Rohit to name a couple.

If Pakistan has such pulling power, why aren't they making $$$$? Why does the PCB constantly keep talking about an India series? If they have the pulling power, they should be able to thrive on their own.

You are right that Ind-Pak is biggest rivalry. I would even say it is bigger than Aus-Eng Ashes. Will be clearly evident this weekend.

 

[NishanKonar]

Most Pakistanis are so crazy about cricket that they simply cannot believe that Indians are no longer so crazy over cricket. Today I was doing a meeting in office & 1 senior manager innocently asked if the World Cup has started ! In 2011 this wud be unthinkable

There is no conspiracy at all. Indians simply has stopped getting obsessed over cricket. Thats why there is so little hype over World Cup. That's why BCCI is organizing ceremony before India Pakistan game to boost TRPs

In fact there is also growing interest in other sports. Like 2 days back there was auctions for pro kabaddi league & that generated lot more buzz bcoz of eye popping salaries on offer. Not to forget the hype over Asian Games where India won 100 plus medals for the first time ever ! All this is eating into the space where cricket has near monopoly in the past

 

[Cricket Warrior]

The player auction for Indian Premier League 2024 is likely to be held on December 19, with Dubai being considered as the venue. The 10 franchises have been asked to submit their list of retained and released players by November 15, after which the auction pool will be released by the first week of December.

IPL 2024 auction likely to be held on December 19

The player auction for the Indian Premier League is likely to be held on December 19, with Dubai being considered as the venue.

sportstar.thehindu.com

 

[ArabKnight]

Most Pakistanis are so crazy about cricket that they simply cannot believe that Indians are no longer so crazy over cricket. Today I was doing a meeting in office & 1 senior manager innocently asked if the World Cup has started ! In 2011 this wud be unthinkable

There is no conspiracy at all. Indians simply has stopped getting obsessed over cricket. Thats why there is so little hype over World Cup. That's why BCCI is organizing ceremony before India Pakistan game to boost TRPs

In fact there is also growing interest in other sports. Like 2 days back there was auctions for pro kabaddi league & that generated lot more buzz bcoz of eye popping salaries on offer. Not to forget the hype over Asian Games where India won 100 plus medals for the first time ever ! All this is eating into the space where cricket has near monopoly in the past

Indians are still obsessed over cricket. But they are robots and hold no emotion over it. For them, it’s a business. A population of 2 billion people and the goal is to make as much revenue as possible. That’s why cricket is dying in non-India countries. Biased BCCI has full control of ICC and they are trying so hard to keep the sport to be dominated by Indians & Indians only.

 

[160KPH]

Most Pakistanis are so crazy about cricket that they simply cannot believe that Indians are no longer so crazy over cricket. Today I was doing a meeting in office & 1 senior manager innocently asked if the World Cup has started ! In 2011 this wud be unthinkable

There is no conspiracy at all. Indians simply has stopped getting obsessed over cricket. Thats why there is so little hype over World Cup. That's why BCCI is organizing ceremony before India Pakistan game to boost TRPs

In fact there is also growing interest in other sports. Like 2 days back there was auctions for pro kabaddi league & that generated lot more buzz bcoz of eye popping salaries on offer. Not to forget the hype over Asian Games where India won 100 plus medals for the first time ever ! All this is eating into the space where cricket has near monopoly in the past

Bro what? India is the most cricket loving country there is - specifically the limited over formats. Just check the viewing numbers - the streaming numbers are horribly down everywhere compared to what they usually are besides in India.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Bro what? India is the most cricket loving country there is - specifically the limited over formats. Just check the viewing numbers - the streaming numbers are horribly down everywhere compared to what they usually are besides in India.

They shattered the record with India vs NZ match.

Disney+ Hotstar has announced that it achieved a record peak concurrency of 43 million viewers during the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2023 match between India and New Zealand. This surpasses their previous record of 35 million viewers during the India vs Pakistan match in the same tournament

 

[rhony]

This is true. 1996 World Cup was peak of cricket hysteria in India. The hype surrounding that Bangalore clash between India & Pakistan was insane

2011 was actually the first sign that cricket was slowly losing that mass hysteric appeal in India. Even though India won , we did not see those euphoric celebrations that erupted all over India after 2007 T20 Worlds victory

The days the effigies stopped burning and the players homes stopped being pelted by stones, one knew the madness has ended. Just way too many entertainment options. But I don't disagree with OP here. This appears to be a sabotage of ODIs in general. The marketing wasn't good. No opening ceremony. Also Indian team has been metronomic in consistency during the league phase in almost all tournaments for a decade barring one or two. They go easily to Semis and then crash. Maybe crowd will get into the game more once India reaches semis. That's when there is uncertainty and that brings more eye balls.

 

[U$ofA]

They shattered the record with India vs NZ match.

Disney+ Hotstar has announced that it achieved a record peak concurrency of 43 million viewers during the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2023 match between India and New Zealand. This surpasses their previous record of 35 million viewers during the India vs Pakistan match in the same tournament

This is actually pretty big news. Ind-Pak match is not the most watched match. Looks like that has been beat by some distance.

Perhaps Ind-Pak is not what it's hyped to be.

 

[saqib.rai]

Most Pakistanis are so crazy about cricket that they simply cannot believe that Indians are no longer so crazy over cricket. Today I was doing a meeting in office & 1 senior manager innocently asked if the World Cup has started ! In 2011 this wud be unthinkable

There is no conspiracy at all. Indians simply has stopped getting obsessed over cricket. Thats why there is so little hype over World Cup. That's why BCCI is organizing ceremony before India Pakistan game to boost TRPs

In fact there is also growing interest in other sports. Like 2 days back there was auctions for pro kabaddi league & that generated lot more buzz bcoz of eye popping salaries on offer. Not to forget the hype over Asian Games where India won 100 plus medals for the first time ever ! All this is eating into the space where cricket has near monopoly in the past

I watch reaction videos of a famous YouTuber in India and he works in the advertisement sector as well. Writing ads and stuff like that

He said in one of his videos that most brands will exhaust their budget during the World Cup. He has no idea what will happen afterwards. Brands are spending enormous amounts of money for ads during the World Cup

Seeing the IPL final this year, cricket remains India's biggest obsession. Much more greater than even Bollywood

I get recommended cricket analysis videos of Pakistani sports journalists. Believe me their own families don't even listen to them
However, the comment section is full of Hindu names.

Cricket is the BIGGEST obsession in India. No matter how much you try denying it
Plus India is a one sport country- no matter how much you try denying it

 

[Hitman]

People are not getting the point. Cricket is still huge in India. In fact, it'll always be. But not as huge as it was during Sachin's time. That was when cricket obsession was at it's absolute peak in India.

You guys won't believe how my city reacted in the 90's and 2000's when the Indian team played here. Complete jam packed stadium. Fans would wait outside the team hotels 24/7 as long as the Indian team was there. The last match I attended in my city was early this year between India and Sri Lanka, and 30% of the seats were empty. This despite big names like Kohli and Rohit playing.

 

[Kianig89]

IPL already a cut above WC, better organizers more razzmatazz with actors in stadium havent seen much of bollywood attending this WC, better turnout in IPL than WC.

 

[WengerOut]

People are not getting the point. Cricket is still huge in India. In fact, it'll always be. But not as huge as it was during Sachin's time. That was when cricket obsession was at it's absolute peak in India.

You guys won't believe how my city reacted in the 90's and 2000's when the Indian team played here. Complete jam packed stadium. Fans would wait outside the team hotels 24/7 as long as the Indian team was there. The last match I attended in my city was early this year between India and Sri Lanka, and 30% of the seats were empty. This despite big names like Kohli and Rohit playing.

Still remember peeking through the windows of tv showrooms while coming back from school to watch the conclusion of tri series matches down under involving Aus, Pak and Ind in 2000. A mini crowd was always there in such places. Today, no one cares. I still love test cricket. Ever since mid 2000s, ODIs are not interesting. Only watch WCs. Regarding T20s , i dont consider it as cricket.

 

[Hitman]

Still remember peeking through the windows of tv showrooms while coming back from school to watch the conclusion of tri series matches down under involving Aus, Pak and Ind in 2000. A mini crowd was always there in such places. Today, no one cares. I still love test cricket. Ever since mid 2000s, ODIs are not interesting. Only watch WCs. Regarding T20s , i dont consider it as cricket.

Same was the case here my city in the 90's. Cable TV back then was not something that a lot of households had. Electronic shops used to let people watch matches on one of their TV's meant for that purpose. Bilateral ODI series back then were almost as big as ODI World Cups are today.

The T20 format ruined everything. The late Tony Greig predicted it back in 2006. Just like you, I don't even consider it cricket. It's worth in my eyes is equal to garbage, garbage, and more garbage.

 

[Iamcoolwhiz]

Same was the case here my city in the 90's. Cable TV back then was not something that a lot of households had. Electronic shops used to let people watch matches on one of their TV's meant for that purpose. Bilateral ODI series back then were almost as big as ODI World Cups are today.

The T20 format ruined everything. The late Tony Greig predicted it back in 2006. Just like you, I don't even consider it cricket. It's worth in my eyes is equal to garbage, garbage, and more garbage.

I quite agree with you, but a new generation of cricket watchers prefer the 3 hour entertainment and their number is increasing all the time. Cricket purist will decay slowly and then become the remnant of the past.


I was not there, but I have heard similar concerns when ODI was introduced. It is just the way of life, evolution and survival of the fittest.

 

[PassionForPak]

BCCI is already bigger than ICC, both influence and economy wise.
They don't have to sabotage anything.
They can just throw their weight around and get things done.

They can pretty much run just on Indian domestic audience alone and its the icc and other boards who need Indian money.

Tickets are getting sold within minutes so demand side is no issues but bcci did notice ticket hoarding at start in non indian matches by black market resellers so reserving a portion of tickets for foreign tourists is actually a great idea.

 

[PassionForPak]

People are not getting the point. Cricket is still huge in India. In fact, it'll always be. But not as huge as it was during Sachin's time. That was when cricket obsession was at it's absolute peak in India.

You guys won't believe how my city reacted in the 90's and 2000's when the Indian team played here. Complete jam packed stadium. Fans would wait outside the team hotels 24/7 as long as the Indian team was there. The last match I attended in my city was early this year between India and Sri Lanka, and 30% of the seats were empty. This despite big names like Kohli and Rohit playing.

It's not cricket that's has lost popularity but young generation is actually invested more in sports and they care about almost all other field sports and not just obsessing over circket so growth in cricket interest is evening out.

As more and more Indian atheletes win international competitions, more Indians aspire to follow in their footsteps.

Cricket is still the most popular and will continue to be.
And more Indians watch matches like Ind vs Nz live than Ind vs Pak so there's also a shift in priorities in the mindset.

 

[Hitman]

I quite agree with you, but a new generation of cricket watchers prefer the 3 hour entertainment and their number is increasing all the time. Cricket purist will decay slowly and then become the remnant of the past.


I was not there, but I have heard similar concerns when ODI was introduced. It is just the way of life, evolution and survival of the fittest.

The T20 format should have never been introduced. And it was so important to be introduced, should have been restricted to league cricket. It has completely contaminated Tests and ODI's.

 

[AMSS]

IPL already a cut above WC, better organizers more razzmatazz with actors in stadium havent seen much of bollywood attending this WC, better turnout in IPL than WC.

More competitive and better cricket

 

[MenInG]

More competitive and better cricket

Different format.

Compare it with World Cup T20

 

[Saanji]

The T20 format should have never been introduced. And it was so important to be introduced, should have been restricted to league cricket. It has completely contaminated Tests and ODI's.

Tests should have died off honestly. T 20 is the reason cricket is in Olympics.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

RAshwin has cast doubt on the quality of the balls used in the IPL compared to those used in ICC tournaments following the conclusion of the 2023 World Cup.

“We use the white Kookaburra ball for the IPL, bilateral series and ICC trophies,” said Ashwin. “But my doubt is, does the quality of the ball remain the same in the IPL and bilateral series compared to ICC events? Because according to whatever I’ve seen in ICC events, if a spinner rotates the ball on the seam or a pacer bowls an inswinger, the ball lands on the seam. Whereas in the IPL, the ball sometimes becomes like a round vessel or a lemon or sometimes even an egg.”

“If we keep the ball inside a store room, the ball collects moisture,” continued Ashwin. “It soaks too much, the shape of the ball change, the quality of the ball changes. I think if the ball is given the same quality there will be a huge difference in those tournaments too because the bilaterals and IPL are instrumental in the selection of the players. So it will be a test for the batsman and the bowlers if the same quality balls are given ”


Wisden

 

[FearlessRoar]

You might have wondered why BCCI seems to have a say in the ICC and other boards. It's because BCCI can offer financial support to the ICC, thanks to strong backing from Indian cricket fans.

Even though BCCI has some influence, the final decisions are made by the ICC council. BCCI can't single-handedly make big changes in the ICC, despite their informal power.

 

[Kianig89]

WC final was a testament that IPL is bigger for than International cricket for Indian masses, IPl finals are full house and jam-packed unlike the 30000 vacant seats in WC Final

 

[sweep_shot]

WC final was a testament that IPL is bigger for than International cricket for Indian masses, IPl finals are full house and jam-packed unlike the 30000 vacant seats in WC Final

IPL is a circus league just like all other T20 leagues. T20 format itself is a circus format.

It can't be compared to the class of international cricket.

No matter how much BCCI try, they are unlikely to make IPL more appealing than international cricket.

 

[Rajdeep]

IPL is a circus league just like all other T20 leagues. T20 format itself is a circus format.

It can't be compared to the class of international cricket.

No matter how much BCCI try, they are unlikely to make IPL more appealing than international cricket.

Think you meant ICC events bcoz bilateral international series unless the marquee ones pales in comparison to the IPL.

Do you think the ongoing T20 series between Ind & Aus is better than IPL? It is called third class cricket and you will never see such dampner in IPL.

 

[sweep_shot]

Think you meant ICC events bcoz bilateral international series unless the marquee ones pales in comparison to the IPL.

Do you think the ongoing T20 series between Ind & Aus is better than IPL? It is called third class cricket and you will never see such dampner in IPL.

I meant series like ODI World Cup, WTC final, Champions Trophy, Ashes, Ind-Aus Test series, Ind-Pak series, World T20 etc.

IPL can't match those.

 

[Technics 1210]

IPL has proven beyond all doubt that Indian stars only perform well in TV adverts and not at the world stage.

Sabotaged? Done and dusted. BCCI responsible for humiliation? You ain't seen nothing yet.

 

[BouncerGuy]

"Sometimes I Wonder If IPL Is Even Cricket": R Ashwin Makes Massive Remark’

Premier India spinner R Ashwin reckons the IPL has grown so "huge" that at times cricket itself takes a backseat with players finding it hard to juggle between training and advertisement shoots. Ashwin spoke about the meteoric rise of the IPL since its inception in 2008 and how tough life on the road for a player can be over the course of the two-month long competition. "As a youngster coming into the IPL, I was only looking to learn from the big stars, I did not think about how the IPL would look 10 years down the line. I can say that, having been in the IPL for so many seasons, the IPL is huge," he said on Club Prairie Fire podcast. "Sometimes I wonder if IPL is even cricket, because sport takes a backstage (during IPL). It's so huge. We do end up practising in advertisement shoots and sets! That's where the IPL has gotten to," said Ashwin, who is an important member of the Rajasthan Royals squad.

The 37-year-old, who recently completed 500 Test wickets, started his IPL career with Chennai Super Kings and that led to him wearing the coveted India cap across formats.

Back in 2022, the IPL media rights were sold for a whopping Rs 48,390 crore for a five-year cycle, making it the second biggest league in the sporting world in terms of per match value after NFL, leaving behind the likes of English Premier League, NBA and Major League Baseball.

Ashwin spoke about his early days in the IPL and how the event exceeded all expectations.

"No one envisaged the kind of growth that the IPL has had. I still remember a conversation I had with Scott Styris when we were both at CSK. He told me that when he was playing for the Deccan Chargers in the initial seasons of IPL, he did not think the IPL would last for more than two-three years.

"Initially, there was a big influx of money," Ashwin said on the podcast hosted by former England captain Michael Vaughan and Australian great Adam Gilchrist.

Players bagging astronomical deals at the auction has also added significantly to the profile of the IPL. At the latest auction, Australian pacer Mitchell Starc fetched a record Rs 24.74 crore deal from Kolkata Knight Riders.

"Look, over the years you'd think that the IPL is one tournament that is largely won at the auctions. I believe the auctions are a very important facet of this league, but the beauty of the IPL is that franchises have evolved into getting their teams right.

"There's no one way to skin a cat. No one player is bigger than the team. No one slot is bigger than others. The teams invest wisely," said Ashwin who has also represented Punjab Kings and Delhi Capitals in the IPL.

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