Could Jasprit Bumrah make it into Pakistan's all-time XI, assuming he were a Pakistani cricketer?

[BouncerGuy]

Bumrah would have been banned in the first year of his debut if he was a Pakistani player..

 

[Devadwal]

Bumrah would have been banned in the first year of his debut if he was a Pakistani player..

Since Bumrah has not indulged in match-fixing like many Pakistani players, Why would they have been banned him?

 

[BouncerGuy]

Since Bumrah has not indulged in match-fixing like many Pakistani players, Why would they have been banned him?

LIke indian* players as well.. always write both if you're going to make such a reference..

But I said that due to his action...

 

[just a fan]

Nah bumrah wouldn't be pleased to be a part of all time cheaters 11!

 

[Devadwal]

LIke indian* players as well.. always write both if you're going to make such a reference..

But I said that due to his action...

His action is clean. What Wrong with that !!! Ohhh Pakistani conspiracy saarrr. Lahori chooran koi ilaaj nahi hai.

 

[BouncerGuy]

His action is clean. What Wrong with that !!! Ohhh Pakistani conspiracy saarrr. Lahori chooran koi ilaaj nahi hai.

You are a fool??? I guess so

I am saying that if he were a Pakistani player with such an action, he was a goner...

Are you having a hard time understanding basic things???

 

[Devadwal]

You are a fool??? I guess so

I am saying that if he were a Pakistani player with such an action, he was a goner...

Are you having a hard time understanding basic things???

You're making fool of yourself after showing the victims mentality. Hyperextension has nothing to do with chucking whether it's Indian player or Pakistan or Uganda . All of the Pakistan player who were banned due to illegal actions Only ( talking about bowling action not fixing).

 

[BouncerGuy]

You're making fool of yourself after showing the victims mentality. Hyperextension has nothing to do with chucking whether it's Indian player or Pakistan or Uganda . All of the Pakistan player who were banned due to illegal actions Only ( talking about bowling action not fixing).

I forget everytime... Talking to you is like BHAINS K AAGAY BEEN BAJANA.... You are just deaf

 

[Devadwal]

I forget everytime... Talking to you is like BHAINS K AAGAY BEEN BAJANA.... You are just deaf

What happened? running out of excuses? Awww. Whenever anyone talking with me , came with real facts otherwise 1 minutes m Fake Propaganda exposed kar deta hu. ..

now tell me which Pakistani bowlers unfairly banned by ICC? Any example

 

[Sachin fan]

Why do you bring Australia? We are talking head to head here. Do you know Pakistan's record vs India in India?

Because you and everyone else knows that india would have thrashed you in head to head in last decade if we had played bilaterals and tests

Bumrah would have literally pwned you every match.

So you getting lucky that we are not playing you when we are the strongest and you the weakest is not something to chest thump about.

 

[Sachin fan]

I forget everytime... Talking to you is like BHAINS K AAGAY BEEN BAJANA.... You are just deaf

You can keep LYING about hyperextension being chucking but it will just make you a LIAR, not Bumrah a chucker.

And lying is the last resort when you have lost a debate.

 

[BouncerGuy]

You can keep LYING about hyperextension being chucking but it will just make you a LIAR, not Bumrah a chucker.

And lying is the last resort when you have lost a debate.

O bhai... Who are you guys... Can you see what i wrote??

Do you know the context.... Ignorant as always.

 

[Major]

Where does he rank in your list of great fast bowlers since 1970 ? I think he is the GOAT.

thats the thing, all these years you have produce trudlers that the next decent bowler becomes GOAT.

 

[Hitman]

thats the thing, all these years you have produce trudlers that the next decent bowler becomes GOAT.

Yea, 'decent' bowlers take 234 Test wickets at an average of 19.79 and SR of 42.8

 

[Ab Fan]

In Tests, Bumrah > Wasim.

In ODIs , Wasim > Bumrah.

In T20Is, Bumrah is GOAT.

 

[RexRex]

thats the thing, all these years you have produce trudlers that the next decent bowler becomes GOAT.

So where does he rank in your top 10 ? Honest opinion.

 

[Ab Fan]

Away avg:-

Bumrah 20.5
Wasim 25

Home avg:-

Bumrah 17.5
Wasim 22.5

% of tailender wickets:-

Wasim - 35%
Bumrah - 31%

30+ wickets in a series:-

Wasim - 0
Bumrah - 1

Result - Bumrah > Wasim in tests

 

[RexRex]

Away avg:-

Bumrah 20.5
Wasim 25

Home avg:-

Bumrah 17.5
Wasim 22.5

% of tailender wickets:-

Wasim - 35%
Bumrah - 31%

30+ wickets in a series:-

Wasim - 0
Bumrah - 1

Result - Bumrah > Wasim in tests

What abt white ball ?

 

[Hitman]

Away avg:-

Bumrah 20.5
Wasim 25

Home avg:-

Bumrah 17.5
Wasim 22.5

% of tailender wickets:-

Wasim - 35%
Bumrah - 31%

30+ wickets in a series:-

Wasim - 0
Bumrah - 1

Result - Bumrah > Wasim in tests

Don't think it's fair to compare any decent honest player with a lowlife match fixer.

 

[Devadwal]

thats the thing, all these years you have produce trudlers that the next decent bowler becomes GOAT.

First produce a trundler who can take 200 test wicket for Pakistan. Minnow Pakistan hasn't produce any trundlers since bottler caps bowler Waqar. Minnows ho , or Rahoge. .

 

[Major]

So where does he rank in your top 10 ? Honest opinion.

i dont have top 10s, i dont indulge in such dicussions

 

[RyanRyan10]

What matters is performance

You don't have a heart then

 

[RexRex]

i dont have top 10s, i dont indulge in such dicussions

No worries, tis best you keep away from such discussions. Pride will come in the way of an honest assessment.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Away avg:-

Bumrah 20.5
Wasim 25

Home avg:-

Bumrah 17.5
Wasim 22.5

% of tailender wickets:-

Wasim - 35%
Bumrah - 31%

30+ wickets in a series:-

Wasim - 0
Bumrah - 1

Result - Bumrah > Wasim in tests

What's your top 10? (All formats combined)

 

[Major]

No worries, tis best you keep away from such discussions. Pride will come in the way of an honest assessment.

You can keep on hyping up the only decent bowler you have to produce ever.

 

[jeetu]

Player	Span	Mat	Wkts	Avg	Econ	SR	5W	10W
JJ Bumrah	2016-2026	236	504	20.49	3.72	32.9	18	0
GD McGrath	1993-2007	376	949	21.76	2.93	44.5	36	3
AA Donald	1991-2003	236	602	22.04	3.3	40	22	3
Sir RJ Hadlee	1973-1990	201	589	22.1	2.77	47.7	41	9
CEL Ambrose	1988-2000	274	630	22.11	2.65	49.9	26	3
MD Marshall	1978-1992	217	533	22.71	2.93	46.4	22	4
M Muralidaran	1992-2011	495	1347	22.86	2.92	46.8	77	22
DW Steyn	2004-2020	265	699	23.37	3.78	37	29	5
Wasim Akram	1984-2003	460	916	23.57	3.17	44.5	31	5
Waqar Younis	1989-2003	349	789	23.7	3.88	36.6	35	5
SM Pollock	1995-2008	423	829	23.73	2.92	48.6	21	1
PJ Cummins	2011-2025	219	524	24.08	3.72	38.7	15	2
Imran Khan	1971-1992	263	544	24.08	2.92	49.4	24	6
K Rabada	2014-2026	258	591	24.5	4.22	34.8	19	4
JR Hazlewood	2010-2025	232	516	24.71	3.51	42.1	16	0
MA Starc	2010-2026	300	759	25.28	4.09	37	27	3
SK Warne	1992-2007	339	1001	25.51	2.98	51.2	38	10
TA Boult	2011-2024	253	611	25.6	3.75	40.8	16	1
R Ashwin	2010-2024	287	765	25.8	3.38	45.7	37	8
CA Walsh	1984-2001	337	746	26.28	2.88	54.7	23	3
MG Johnson	2005-2015	256	590	26.65	3.9	40.9	15	3
M Morkel	2006-2018	247	544	26.65	3.74	42.6	10	0
B Lee	1999-2012	322	718	26.66	4.06	39.3	19	0
JM Anderson	2002-2024	401	991	27.28	3.24	50.4	34	3
M Ntini	1998-2011	284	662	27.33	3.65	44.8	22	4
SCJ Broad	2006-2023	344	847	27.83	3.45	48.3	21	3
SL Malinga	2004-2020	340	546	28.08	5.12	32.8	13	0
HMRKB Herath	1999-2018	181	525	28.36	3.01	56.3	35	9
WPUJC Vaas	1994-2009	439	761	28.44	3.3	51.7	16	2
IT Botham	1976-1992	218	528	28.44	3.2	53.1	27	4
Shakib Al Hasan	2006-2024	447	712	28.48	3.92	43.5	25	2
N Kapil Dev	1978-1994	356	687	28.83	3.05	56.6	24	2
J Srinath	1991-2003	296	551	29.11	3.55	49	13	1
TG Southee	2008-2024	394	776	29.57	4.01	44.2	20	1
RA Jadeja	2009-2026	373	634	29.7	3.53	50.4	17	3
A Kumble	1990-2008	403	956	30.09	3.11	57.8	37	8
NM Lyon	2011-2025	172	597	30.95	3.03	61.1	24	5
Z Khan	2000-2014	309	610	31.14	3.89	47.9	12	1
JH Kallis	1995-2014	519	577	32.14	3.56	54.1	7	0
DL Vettori	1997-2015	442	705	32.42	3.14	61.9	22	3
Harbhajan Singh	1998-2016	367	711	32.54	3.33	58.6	28	5
Shahid Afridi	1996-2018	524	541	32.78	4.62	42.5	10	0

All format bowling stats , min 500 wickets.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You don't have a heart then

Performance wins matches.

@Hitman

What was that famous Shoaib Akhtar line to his captain in2003 in centurion

 

[RyanRyan10]

Performance wins matches.

@Hitman

What was that famous Shoaib Akhtar line to his captain in2003 in centurion

Then why support bad Indian pacers who can bowl fast but don't deliver anything?

 

[Sachin fan]

thats the thing, all these years you have produce trudlers that the next decent bowler becomes GOAT.

If you think bumrah is just a decent bowler you know nothing about cricket. Don't let bias cloud your judgement to such an extent dude, it lowers the quality of your post and life in general

No one who knows any cricket will ever call bumrah just another decent bowler.

 

[Sachin fan]

You can keep on hyping up the only decent bowler you have to produce ever.

The entire world except some jealous bitter Pakistanis and couple of Bangladeshis is hyping him

And of course you are lying about only decent bowler when the likes of shami, yadav. Even ishant and Bhuvi wipe the floor with the pace. Bowlers ou have had from the 2000s onwards.

 

[Sachin fan]

First produce a trundler who can take 200 test wicket for Pakistan. Minnow Pakistan hasn't produce any trundlers since bottler caps bowler Waqar. Minnows ho , or Rahoge. .

The likes of shami, yadav, Bhuvi, ishant, even irfan pathan who won multiple world cups and CT, wipe the floor with any Pakistani bowlers since 2000s. Zaheer etc reach so many wickets Pakistani bowlers cannot even pretend to reach

Lying is just second nature to some of them and its to hide the jealousy.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Bumrah will likely retire as a GOAT. Only something dramatic will stop him becoming a GOAT.

He walks into any teams all time XI. Especially in LOI where he is one of the most devastating ever.

In Tests people show his stats but he has also been pampered a bit with playing mainly in friendly conditions, which is a potential black mark against him. But he will still likely retire as one of the best.

He makes Pakistan's all time XIs for sure.

 

[Hitman]

Performance wins matches.

@Hitman

What was that famous Shoaib Akhtar line to his captain in2003 in centurion

'Mere se bowling nahin ho rahi hain'.

 

[Major]

If you think bumrah is just a decent bowler you know nothing about cricket. Don't let bias cloud your judgement to such an extent dude, it lowers the quality of your post and life in general

No one who knows any cricket will ever call bumrah just another decent bowler.

Ok he is a good bowler. But he is not an atg that indians make him out and compare him direcrly to bumrah.

Not long ago u guys were comparing that pacer that bowled quick in nets, i think he was umran. U guys compared him to akhtar lol that consistently bowled above 150

 

[cricketjoshila]

'Mere se bowling nahin ho rahi hain'.

Apparently thst is jazba

 

[cricketjoshila]

Ok he is a good bowler. But he is not an atg that indians make him out and compare him direcrly to bumrah.

Not long ago u guys were comparing that pacer that bowled quick in nets, i think he was umran. U guys compared him to akhtar lol that consistently bowled above 150

He bowled 157 kph in matches

 

[RyanRyan10]

Ok he is a good bowler. But he is not an atg that indians make him out and compare him direcrly to bumrah.

Not long ago u guys were comparing that pacer that bowled quick in nets, i think he was umran. U guys compared him to akhtar lol that consistently bowled above 150

But you have said Joginder Sharma has a bigger legacy than Shoaib Akhtar

 

[RyanRyan10]

He bowled 157 kph in matches

But how was the performance?

 

[Major]

He bowled 157 kph in matches

lol bowling it one time doesnt make a difference.

I think you dont understand the word consistently bowling. Thats where a pacers stamina is checked.

Meanwhile Umran hasnt recovered to return back

 

[cricketjoshila]

lol bowling it one time doesnt make a difference.

I think you dont understand the word consistently bowling. Thats where a pacers stamina is checked.

Meanwhile Umran hasnt recovered to return back

He is in kkr squad in IPL

His problem is lack of fc matches

.he has bowled 150 kph multiple times in IPL matches


But we are discussing bumrah here, Akhtar doesn't match bumrah in performance

 

[hassan918]

But you have said Joginder Sharma has a bigger legacy than Shoaib Akhtar

Legacy of one match. Not many cricketers have such legacy like Joginder.

 

[Obaidd]

Away avg:-

Bumrah 20.5
Wasim 25

Home avg:-

Bumrah 17.5
Wasim 22.5

% of tailender wickets:-

Wasim - 35%
Bumrah - 31%

30+ wickets in a series:-

Wasim - 0
Bumrah - 1

Result - Bumrah > Wasim in tests

That’s a strange analysis. Seems like the conclusion came before the analysis.

Tailender wickets/ ‘30+’ wickets in a series. What an arbitrary selection of criteria.

 

[Obaidd]

Away avg:-

Bumrah 20.5
Wasim 25

Home avg:-

Bumrah 17.5
Wasim 22.5

% of tailender wickets:-

Wasim - 35%
Bumrah - 31%

30+ wickets in a series:-

Wasim - 0
Bumrah - 1

Result - Bumrah > Wasim in tests

How about this criteria:

How many test wickets Waz has against India? How many test wickets Bumzy got against Pak?

Lol. Until and unless he performs vs pak in tests please don’t expect validation for him on pp.

 

[Ab Fan]

That’s a strange analysis. Seems like the conclusion came before the analysis.

Tailender wickets/ ‘30+’ wickets in a series. What an arbitrary selection of criteria.

Only a few Pakistani fans will find this analysis strange. The rest of the world does their analysis based on these metrics only:-

1. Overall career avg
2. Away+ home avg vs top teams
3. Any dominant series performance
4. Quality of wickets ( top 7-8 or tailenders)

Wasim Akram is behind Bumrah in all these aspects. He is only ahead in wickets tally and that too mostly weaker opponents of his era.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Legacy of one match. Not many cricketers have such legacy like Joginder.

He had made that claim not me

 

[stani_pak]

Bumrah is miles better than any Pakistani fast bowler barring Wasim. That's a fact.

Waqar Younis lol... Without Bottle caps , he would have been another Haris Rauf.

Shoaib Akhtar lol...he has won as many ICC tournaments as I have.

Joke of the century, bumrah might be a great chucker but he is no where neard the legends of Wasim, Waqar or Shoaib Akhtar

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Because you and everyone else knows that india would have thrashed you in head to head in last decade if we had played bilaterals and tests

Bumrah would have literally pwned you every match.

So you getting lucky that we are not playing you when we are the strongest and you the weakest is not something to chest thump about.

That is not head to head numbers

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Bumrah is miles better than any Pakistani fast bowler barring Wasim. That's a fact.

Waqar Younis lol... Without Bottle caps , he would have been another Haris Rauf.

Shoaib Akhtar lol...he has won as many ICC tournaments as I have.

Waqar is greater than any Ind cricketer ever lol. Clown posting as usual.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

1992 - Sydney
1996 - Bangalore
1999 - Manchester
2003 - Centurion
2011 - Mohali
2015 - Adelaide
2019 - Manchester
2023 - Ahmedabad

#HaveSomeShame

What is Pak record vs India in India?

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Silenced Australian mediawon two test series in Australia, thsts two more than any pakistani

When was the last time pakistan won a test in Australia?

Again impotent argument bringing your faderland Australia. Talk about Pak and Ind

 

[Mesozoic]

Joke of the century, bumrah might be a great chucker but he is no where neard the legends of Wasim, Waqar or Shoaib Akhtar

Pakistani fans can moan all they want and display their impotent rage. Doesn't change the reality.

Waqar and Shoaib have never won anything meaningful for Pakistan...not an ICC trophy nor a big Test series away from home.

Bumrah has done both.

 

[Mesozoic]

Waqar is greater than any Ind cricketer ever lol. Clown posting as usual.

Waqar's greatest legacy is getting belted around Chinnaswamy by Ajay Jadeja. He has hardly done anything ground breaking for the rest of his career other than using bottle caps.

 

[Hitman]

Waqar's greatest legacy is getting belted around Chinnaswamy by Ajay Jadeja. He has hardly done anything ground breaking for the rest of his career other than using bottle caps.

You forgot him getting booed out of the ground by Pakistani fans during the presentation ceremony of the 2003 WC match against India as the captain. That's his greatest achievement.​

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Waqar's greatest legacy is getting belted around Chinnaswamy by Ajay Jadeja. He has hardly done anything ground breaking for the rest of his career other than using bottle caps.

His greatest legacy is beatdowns on India and pinging Teenda in the head in 1989. Ind had Venkatesh Parsad, Srinath, Kumble, Mohanty at that time lol.

 

[RyanRyan10]

His greatest legacy is beatdowns on India and pinging Teenda in the head in 1989. Ind had Venkatesh Parsad, Srinath, Kumble, Mohanty at that time lol.

You enjoy the insults thrown af certain ex Pak cricketers

 

[Honestly]

Waqar downfall was one of the worst

Waqar
1990-1994 : 31 Tests. 184 wickets @ 18.50
1995-2003 : 54 Tests. 183 wickets @ 28.50

1995-2003 excluding Bangladesh & Zimbabwe
43 Tests. 130 wickets @ 31.5.
He took 1 5-Fer in 9 years


Virat comes close.
Till 2019 : 84 Tests. 7202 runs @ 54.98
2016-2019 : 43 Tests. 4208 runs @ 66.
2020-2025 : 39 Tests. 2028 runs @ 30.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Again impotent argument bringing your faderland Australia. Talk about Pak and Ind

Pakistan and India don't play out sode of icc events, tthe h 2h is well known

Australia is pakistans faather land, you guys haven't won a test there in years, all you sooper phaast bowlers fail their

 

[BreadPakoda]

Bumrah in the Pakistani camp of the 90s, with fewer cameras and none during drinks breaks, would be the Don Bradman of fast bowling.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Pakistan and India don't play out sode of icc events, tthe h 2h is well known

Australia is pakistans faather land, you guys haven't won a test there in years, all you sooper phaast bowlers fail their

HTH between India and Pak in Test is 12-9 in Pak's favor and massive 73-58 in ODIs in Pak's favor. Sit down.

 

[stani_pak]

Pakistani fans can moan all they want and display their impotent rage. Doesn't change the reality.

Waqar and Shoaib have never won anything meaningful for Pakistan...not an ICC trophy nor a big Test series away from home.

Bumrah has done both.

With his Chucking action, he can achieve a lot of things, see if bumrah does not chuck and see what type of bowler he is. Also Bumrah never won an ODI world cup of ICC champions trophy, only won 2 t20 WC since it is a lottery format of cricket and ICC did all the favors it can to help India win.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

With his Chucking action, he can achieve a lot of things, see if bumrah does not chuck and see what type of bowler he is. Also Bumrah never won an ODI world cup of ICC champions trophy, only won 2 t20 WC since it is a lottery format of cricket and ICC did all the favors it can to help India win.

He bottled WTC 2021 and WC 2023F and CT17. Biggest bottler in ICC events apart from useless T20 WC.

 

[Devadwal]

With his Chucking action, he can achieve a lot of things, see if bumrah does not chuck and see what type of bowler he is. Also Bumrah never won an ODI world cup of ICC champions trophy, only won 2 t20 WC since it is a lottery format of cricket and ICC did all the favors it can to help India win.

Another Minnow Pakistan fan is crying about Bumrah. Inka Rona dhona dekh ke sukun milta hai. Beautiful

 

[RidiculousMan]

Indians ki wo misal hai ke "haath do thora sa aur pura bazu hi khench lia"