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Could Quinton de Kock become an ODI ATG?

Azan Basit

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Here are his current stats

95 Matches
4073 Runs
Average of 45.25
Strike Rate of 94.23
High Score of 178
13 Hundreds
17 Fifties

Brilliant stats in my opinion considering he's also a wicketkeeper.

He's also just 25. Do you think that if he keeps this up and improves, he could become an ODI ATG and potentially the GOAT WK batsman?
 
He is had an exceptional start to his career better than anyone out there I would reckon but he seems to have faded away a little in the last 6 months or year. He is probably gonna be one of the best limited overs players in this decade and the decade next.
 
Absolutely..he's an excellent batsman. For some reason, it seems like that he lacks confidence/attitude and underestimate his skill level. Regardless, he is on track to become a great player.
 
Yes he can be an ATG. I have seen some posts which said he could be as Gilchrist don't see that happening.

He seems to be badly out form. Needs to regain it fast. Can remember a South Africa journalist talking about De Kock not always taking his game seriously when South Africa played England last year. If that's the case , he may not live up to his potential.

I think he'll come out of this rut.
 
He should. Because he's an exceptional talent.

If people like QDK and KL Rahul don't end their careers as ATGs then they should be disappointed because they wouldn't have done justice to the kind of talent they have.
 
Not sure if he falls into the category of potential greats. A good alrounder nonetheless.
 
de **** has no chance of becoming a ATG.
 
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He is had an exceptional start to his career better than anyone out there I would reckon but he seems to have faded away a little in the last 6 months or year. He is probably gonna be one of the best limited overs players in this decade and the decade next.

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Kock isn't becoming an ATG lol. He already fizzed out. He won't even make the Indian team at the moment. He can become a South African great if he comes back to form. ATG is not a disposable term, you have to make ATG XIs to be one. Kock isn't making any ATG XI, he can only make South African XI.
 
Yes, he may be going through bad phase at the moment but class is permanent.
Dont forget he is just 25.
 
It can be judged after he plays 150-200 ODIs.
 
Definitely has the talent and has played some jaw dropping inns already. Expect him to surpass Gilchrist in stats in ODIs easily and definitely end up an ODI ATG

In Tests though, he'll have to work on his batting. Currently looking like 35/65 keeper batsman which is excellent but nowhere near Gilly level (or even Prior level)
 
Yea. QDC can’t hit sixes like Zaman. Fakhar can rip apart a top side while DC is a choker.

Has he even performed in the last 2 years or so?

In LOIs he certainly has. It's only in tests that he has been struggling for a couple of seasons.

In ODIs, in 2016, de Kock scored 850+ runs at an avg of 57 and SR of 108.

In 2017, he scored almost 1000 runs with an avg of 53 and SR of 95.

Even 2018 is not nearly as bad as people are making it out to be. Avg of 38 and SR of 89.
 
Absolutely destroying Pakistan at the moment - just one life and he makes the opposition pay!
 
Nice to see him back in form but why against us :facepalm:

Markram and De Kock could be an absolutely lethal opening pair.
 
Absolutely destroying Pakistan at the moment - just one life and he makes the opposition pay!

He still does not look like the player he was when he started out. That flair is missing. Every now and then he shows flashes of it, but he is not an ATG material at this point.

Age is on his side and he can turn it up. He is still talented, but the output is not there to be seen. To me he regressed a bit. Still a very good batsman though.
 
Here are his current stats

95 Matches
4073 Runs
Average of 45.25
Strike Rate of 94.23
High Score of 178
13 Hundreds
17 Fifties

Brilliant stats in my opinion considering he's also a wicketkeeper.

He's also just 25. Do you think that if he keeps this up and improves, he could become an ODI ATG and potentially the GOAT WK batsman?

Too many players with extraordinary stats nowadays. Especially in Limited overs format. only time can tell who will be remembered in future or forgotten
 
Man, his stats is what you want from an opener, averaging 44 @ 94

Sadly for Pakistan, we’re stuck with a guy averaging 60+ @ 81
 
He needs to have more match awareness.
 
He is a top player who even thrives more in 2nd inning with the bat. So, that is a good thing for SA but he needs to work on his consistency. He lacks that.
 
Quinton de Kock insists South Africa’s underdog status is a blessing ahead of the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup, after they faltered under pressure four years ago.

Quinton de Kock insists South Africa’s underdog status is a blessing ahead of the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup, after they faltered under pressure four years ago.

The Proteas arrived in Australia and New Zealand as one of the favourites to lift the trophy for the first time but were soundly beaten by the Black Caps in the semi-finals.

That followed similar gut-wrenching defeats in the 2011 quarter-finals and 2007 semi-finals, tournaments they also entered as one of the tips to win.

Yet, with the likes of AB de Villiers and Morne Morkel now retired and a young generation emerging, South Africa have not commanded quite the same attention this year – something vice-captain De Kock believes will allow them to thrive.

“I am excited about the freedom. At the last World Cup, we were ranked number one or two and we were one of the sides earmarked to win it,” he said.

“It didn’t happen but there was always a lot of pressure on us. It is pressure we did not want to be part of.

“This year, I am very happy not to be earmarked by anyone. We know how good we are so we just want to come and enjoy it.

“We have some players who will be playing in their last World Cup and then some who are experiencing it for the first time, so we just want to have some fun.

“I think 2015 was different to this time. Other teams are being called the favourites here and that is a blessing to be honest.

“Don’t get me wrong, we are here to win but our tournament will be a bit more relaxed and that is a good thing.”

Some of South Africa’s leading stars from the past decade are still on hand, with Dale Steyn and Hashim Amla picked for their third ICC Men’s Cricket World Cups.

Yet in captain Faf de Klerk and vice-captain De Kock, there is a new front office. Add in exciting fast bowlers Kagiso Rabada and Lungi Ngidi and there is plenty of cause for optimism, yet much will ride on De Kock – who will open the batting and keep wicket.

“I came into the team at 19 and I was quite immature,” he added.

“I have grown as a cricketer and as a person and that is because of the senior guys in the group. They are still learning from their mentors, who no longer play, so it is one big process of learning through the generations.

“Now I am getting older, I really enjoy that challenge.

"I don’t think about winning it. It is going to be tough and you don’t want to put too much pressure on yourself because it can be horrible when you lose. It’s like the world comes down upon you.

“The sun rises the next day but those initial feelings are horrible if you think you have not met expectations.

"If we take it one game at a time then we can try play ourselves into it. It’s a long tournament, we feel we could be here for all of it.”

https://www.icc-cricket.com/media-zone/news/1224611
 
An excellent LO player capable of taking the game away from opposition on any day. He has had a rough patch but seems to be coming over this.

When we are talking about the best LO batters in the world , De Kock doesn't seem to be in the discussion for some reason. He is right up there. A good WC should put him back in that discussion. Now is the time to step up for De Kock . On flat pitches and no AB, he needs to take responsibility.

Will be fascinated to see how he does in the WC.
 
He will open with Smith and keep wickets in my all time SA ODI IX.

Just needs to have a great world cup. He was shockingly poor in 2015.
 
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He has a decent overall record. Should get 25 plus ODI 100s. Which is a very good career.
 
Unfortunately he is no diffrent to many SA players. They needed him to step up on the big stage.
 
2019 till the next world cup will be key in answering that question. Should be his prime years then, and lets how he fares at the 2023 world cup.
 
Wicketkeeper-batsman Quinton de Kock scored the quickest half-century in T20Is among South African batsmen on Friday. He scored a 22-ball 65 against England, having reached 50 in 17 deliveries, in the second T20I of a three-match series in Durban.

His efforts went in vain as the Proteas lost the match by two runs. It finished on 202 for 7, chasing 205 to win.

De Kock topped his own mark as AB de Villiers and De Kock had held the record before this knock. They both took 21 deliveries to score 50, in two different games in 2016.

The 27-year-old finds himself joint-sixth among batsmen from all nations with the fastest fifty. The list is led by former India all-rounder Yuvraj Singh, who took 12 balls for his 50 in a 2007 World T20 contest against England. Miza Hasan of Australia comes second in the list after he scored a 13-ball 50 against Luxembourg in 2019. Colin Munro (14) comes third and is followed by Faisal Khan (15), and Shai Hope (16).

Ireland’s Paul Stirling, Netherlands’ Stephan Myburgh and West Indies’ Chris Gayle are all tied in the sixth spot with De Kock, having all taken 17 deliveries for their 50.

De Kock, currently the South Africa captain in limited-overs internationals, has so far scored five half-centuries in his T20I career. He has 1,114 runs from 40 matches.

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...and-durban-ab-de-villiers/article30828446.ece
 
People used to laugh at me because when QDK was going through an extended rough patch, and not performing up the level of his ability, I said he has as much talent as Gilchrist. This was around the time of the India SA series in SA, when he was really under delivering.

He has so much time when he is playing strokes. The guy just oozes ATG level talent. It was always his mind or his lack of serious ambition that seemed to get in the way. I hope now he comes into his own and fulfills his obvious potential. I believe he has ATG potential as a wicket-keeper batsman in every format of the game. Whether he fulfills it, depends on his discipline and drive.
 
People used to laugh at me because when QDK was going through an extended rough patch, and not performing up the level of his ability, I said he has as much talent as Gilchrist. This was around the time of the India SA series in SA, when he was really under delivering.

He has so much time when he is playing strokes. The guy just oozes ATG level talent. It was always his mind or his lack of serious ambition that seemed to get in the way. I hope now he comes into his own and fulfills his obvious potential. I believe he has ATG potential as a wicket-keeper batsman in every format of the game. Whether he fulfills it, depends on his discipline and drive.

Nobody who's watched him can dismiss his outrageous strokeplay. It's as good as it gets. But that's not enough to be an ATG - also needs a single minded pursuit over a decade or so. It's incredibly difficult. You see that in someone like Smith or Kohli. QdK has sadly been lacking here. Scored 3 half centuries against England in the tests but failed to convert any into a century. But he's only 27 still so there's time to reach that higher plane.
 
de Kock finally hitting some form just in time for the IPL. Good characteristic innings by him today.
 
120 (91) today versus Ireland - decent fast paced innings.
 
Good ODI player but not the best. 2019 World Cup had a format where you play vs every team so he could have scored few big knocks vs top teams but he went missing.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&#55357;&#56633; 238 international matches<br>&#55357;&#56633; 10,427 runs including 22 centuries<br><br>He has the second-most dismissals by a South Africa wicket-keeper in international cricket &#55358;&#56804;<br><br>Happy birthday to <a href="https://twitter.com/QuinnyDeKock69?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@QuinnyDeKock69</a>! <a href="https://t.co/4qApkKY108">pic.twitter.com/4qApkKY108</a></p>— ICC (@ICC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ICC/status/1471850268157427715?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
He can be an ATG but he hasn't done anything spectacular yet.

He is just a very good LOI player. That's all.
 
I don't think so. South Africa don't seem to play much cricket and QDK earns a lot in IPL.

He seems like he could go the AB De Villiers route.
 
Looked in good form for his 78 in 2nd ODI vs India
 
In terms of the ATG discussion (regardless of format) I do think his curious and ambivalent outlook on Test cricket will end up counting against him.
 
He is one of the best white ball WK batsman, but as a pure batsman will not be among ATG. But no doubt very effective white ball player who is good as WK as well.
 
Loves Indian bowling. Excellent talented player but lacks focus and fight sometimes,abit like Fakhar whose game is too lose to match deKoek stats.
 
Seems to always go missing during tournaments or any big occasion.

Will probably go down as a very good batsmen and a great wicket keeper who under achieved
 
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...s-long-standing-virender-sehwag-record/852229

<b>Ind vs SA: Quinton de Kock joins Ab de Villiers in elite list, breaks long-standing Virender Sehwag record</b>

<I>India vs South Africa: Quinton de Kock has gone level with Ab de Villiers and broken a long-standing record of Virender Sehwag after his century in the third ODI.</I>

After a flamboyant knock of 78 which helped South Africa win the second ODI of the ongoing series against India which helped the Proteas seal a series win, Quinton de Kock has continued his fine form with a stunning century in the third ODI of the series at Cape Town.

After India won the toss and chose to field first in the final game of the series, de Kock played a flawless knock and reached the three-figure mark in just 108 deliveries to set the hosts up for a big score.

This ton is de Kock's 17 century in ODI cricket having played 127 games in the 50-over format for the Proteas. Out of those 17, six centuries have come against India despite playing just 16 games against the Men in Blue.

Due to his phenomenal century in India, de Kock has broken a plethora of records. Firstly, de Kock has equalled Ab de Villiers for the most centuries in India with only Sanath Jayasuriya (7) having more.

<b>Most ODI 100s vs India</b>
7 S Jayasuriya (85 inngs)
6 Q de Kock (16 inngs)
6 AB de Villiers (32 inngs)
6 R Ponting (59 inngs)
6 K Sangakkara (71 inngs)

Meanwhile, de Kock has also broken a long-standing record of legendary Indian opener Virender Sehwag. The South African wicket-keeper has taken the fewest innings in ODI cricket history to score six tons against the same opponent.

<b>Fewest innings to six ODI 100s vs an opponent</b>
16 Q de Kock vs Ind
23 V Sehwag vs NZ
23 A Finch vs Eng
26 Saeed Anwar vs SL

Moreover, de Kock has also overtaken Australia's Adam Gilchrist (16) in the list of designated wicket-keepers with the most centuries in ODI cricket history. Only Kumar Sangakkara (23) has more tons to his name.

<b>Most ODI 100s by designated WKs</b>
23 K Sangakkara
17 Q de Kock *
16 A Gilchrist
10 AB de Villiers/ S Hope/ MS Dhoni

Talking about the match, South Africa found themselves in trouble early at 70-3 but de Kock alongside Rassie van der Dussen put up a 144-run partnership to put India on the backfoot. The 29-year-old was eventually dismissed by Jasprit Bumrah for a score of 124.
 
Excellent LOI batsman. But needs to perform in World Cups. He has very bad record there.
 
Excellent LOI batsman. But needs to perform in World Cups. He has very bad record there.

De Kock is breaking Sehwag's records and you are busy calling someone else the next Sehwag lol. And there are many players who have a bad record in World Cups. :genius :inti
 
Quinton de Kock overtook Adam Gilchrist on Sunday to reach second spot for most ODI centuries registered by designated wicketkeepers. The 29-year-old batter registered his 17th ODI ton in the ongoing third ODI match against India in Cape Town before being dismissed for 124. De Kock is behind former Sri Lanka captain Kumar Sangakkara, who has 23 ODI tons under his name. Meanwhile, Gilchrist is third in the list with 16 tons, followed by AB de Villiers, Shai Hope and MS Dhoni in fourth spot with 10 centuries.

South Africa have been in excellent form during India's ongoing tour and won the Test series 2-1. Leading 2-0 in the three-match ODI series, the Proteas will be aiming for a clean sweep against India, who are currently in poor form.

https://sports.ndtv.com/south-afric...hrist-to-reach-2nd-spot-in-elite-list-2725104
 
Loves Indian bowling. Excellent talented player but lacks focus and fight sometimes,abit like Fakhar whose game is too lose to match deKoek stats.

Fakhar is better LOI batsman but De Kock also keeps stumps so there is that.
 
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