Cow manure as an energy source

[PetroDollars]

So a few years ago I was in Lahore, while there I went to the offices of SMEDA, which is a gov. organisation to help and support business creation. When i entered the office of a business consultant there was a japense man seated on one of the numerous chairs, as the consulant was busy i asked the Japense man what he was doing in Pakistan and he told me he works for a japense company (cant remember the name now) but they were in pakistan to setup a plant to create ferterlizer from guess what cow dung - i started laughting think he was joking, so he took out his laptop and started showing me pics of the plant processing cow dung. I never knew such a thing existed.

But then he said i will show you a gold mine in pakistan that no one knows apart from the japense.

He took out a pic of some river, I forgot the name now but it must have been ravi or industry - and there were huge piles and piles of cow dung on the sides of it, with a smirk on his face he said people throw all this gold away and we come and pick it up for free, process it into ferterlizer and sell it back to you people. quite a business model that.

After I got into researching this cow poo business and it seems like you can even make energy out of it by turning it into gas, which can power cars and homes - some farms in USA are already doing it.

Appranatly its cleaner than fossil fuels and cheaper than solar. Question is why is no one doing this, we have enough cow poop to power the whole country.

We are now wasting billions and billions of dollars that we dont have and the gov. has to beg our people for chanda and then the IMF and WB to create a dam which will destroy the flow of our rivers and cause havoc on aqua life and put us in more financial ruin when we can create probably more power from cows.

 

[JaDed]

Just like how you made fun of the Japanese man, Pak posters made fun of that when I posted something similar.

Nevertheless,I think Pakistan should rather eat the cow and use fossil fuels for the arrogance of some of the awam and to mock India.

 

[Greenstorm]

Small biogas plants were installed in number of villages in Punjab many years back. It was funded by government I think and some of them are still working. Medium and Large livestock farms also have these plants. They are very common in upper Punjab atleast. Very simple cheap clean source of energy and should be promoted more by the government.

 

[troodon]

Cow dung is an age old fuel to cook food in Indian homes. Even today, many poor people and villagers use cow dung cakes as fuel.

 

[PetroDollars]

Just like how you made fun of the Japanese man, Pak posters made fun of that when I posted something similar.

Nevertheless,I think Pakistan should rather eat the cow and use fossil fuels for the arrogance of some of the awam and to mock India.

First of all i didnt make fun of the jap man, secondly it was probably because of the way you talk that they made fun of you and not the topic.

 

[PetroDollars]

Cow dung is an age old fuel to cook food in Indian homes. Even today, many poor people and villagers use cow dung cakes as fuel.

age old fuel is still better than no fuel.

 

[Major]

Cow Dung was already being used by poor families that lived in slums.

Some villiages are also doing biogas production by filling up this dung in those large containers that fill up.

But dont think anyone is doing this at an industrial level.

 

[Major]

and yes, people have been using it as fertilizers aswell in Pakistan.

 

[JaDed]

First of all i didnt make fun of the jap man, secondly it was probably because of the way you talk that they made fun of you and not the topic.

You mean the way I post? I never spoke to anyone on PP.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Even human poo is useful in permaculture.

 

[Xoib]

It’s a very old technology

 

[Itachi]

It is used on small scale in many villages in india.

I think the cost of running energy based upon cow dung isn't viable financially.

For example, solar energy is convenient to use. But to use for your purpose, you'll have to buy apparatus which are way costly. Hence no one uses it.

 

[PetroDollars]

It is used on small scale in many villages in india.

I think the cost of running energy based upon cow dung isn't viable financially.

For example, solar energy is convenient to use. But to use for your purpose, you'll have to buy apparatus which are way costly. Hence no one uses it.

yes today solar can be very expensive even though costs have come down drasticly in last few years and will continue to.

but i very though expensive equipment is need for cow dung.

 

[JaDed]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffka...-electric-vehicles-via-california-dairy-farm/

Manure From California Dairy Farm Powers 17,000 Electric Vehicles

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According to Bloom Energy of California, which makes the fuel cells used at Bar 20, biogas from California dairy farms has the potential to generate more than 300 megawatts of power a year, or enough to power 600,000 electric vehicles.

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Unfortunate that India wasn’t able to implement this at a larger scale, all words by Hindutva Party and less innovation.

Hopefully we can still implement this, considering the monstrous tax collection Govnt does nowadays.

 

[KingKhanWC]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffka...-electric-vehicles-via-california-dairy-farm/

Manure From California Dairy Farm Powers 17,000 Electric Vehicles

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According to Bloom Energy of California, which makes the fuel cells used at Bar 20, biogas from California dairy farms has the potential to generate more than 300 megawatts of power a year, or enough to power 600,000 electric vehicles.

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Unfortunate that India wasn’t able to implement this at a larger scale, all words by Hindutva Party and less innovation.

Hopefully we can still implement this, considering the monstrous tax collection Govnt does nowadays.

Good venture.

Do people in rural villages still use cow dung as fuel for cooking? I saw this in Pakistan when I was a child but not seen it since.

 

[JaDed]

Good venture.

Do people in rural villages still use cow dung as fuel for cooking? I saw this in Pakistan when I was a child but not seen it since.

Yes, and there bio gas plants as well but India doesn’t have the fuel cell tech like the California plants.(Bar20) nor the pipeline.

The current state of India is below:

Eventually, the plant is slated to work through 500 tonnes of waste, including at least 25 tonnes of bovine faeces, each day -- enough to power the city's public transit system, with plenty left over.

"One half will run Indore buses and the other half will be sold to industrial clients," plant boss Nitesh Kumar Tripathi told AFP.

The Gobardhan pilot programme has faced its share of logistical hurdles, with decrepit rural roads making it hard for the plant's dung-carrying trucks to reach farms.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220420-dung-power-india-taps-new-energy-cash-cow

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yes, and there bio gas plants as well but India doesn’t have the fuel cell tech like the California plants.(Bar20) nor the pipeline.

The current state of India is below:

Eventually, the plant is slated to work through 500 tonnes of waste, including at least 25 tonnes of bovine faeces, each day -- enough to power the city's public transit system, with plenty left over.

"One half will run Indore buses and the other half will be sold to industrial clients," plant boss Nitesh Kumar Tripathi told AFP.

The Gobardhan pilot programme has faced its share of logistical hurdles, with decrepit rural roads making it hard for the plant's dung-carrying trucks to reach farms.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220420-dung-power-india-taps-new-energy-cash-cow

Interesting read, thanks.

Have to applaud India for this initiative, Pakistan should do the same once the country becomes stable.

 

[Robert]

Unfortunately it is just more methane and carbon dioxide released into the atmosphere.

When I was in Turkey I saw that nearly all houses had a bit water barrel on the roof with a small PV array. The water warms up during the day ready for use in the evening.

Solar is the way for hot countries.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Unfortunately it is just more methane and carbon dioxide released into the atmosphere.

When I was in Turkey I saw that nearly all houses had a bit water barrel on the roof with a small PV array. The water warms up during the day ready for use in the evening.

Solar is the way for hot countries.

Solar is somewhat unreliable at small scale. There has to be huge storing capacity to use for non productive phases.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Unfortunately it is just more methane and carbon dioxide released into the atmosphere.

When I was in Turkey I saw that nearly all houses had a bit water barrel on the roof with a small PV array. The water warms up during the day ready for use in the evening.

Solar is the way for hot countries.

Btw what's the technology being used in this bio fuel system? How are they converting waste into energy?

 

[Champ_Pal]

Cow is a multi utility animal. From Milk/Dairy products to transportation to fertilizer to energy source. A cow can do it all. India recognized this millennia ago. Hence it is a protected animal and given the status of Mother.

 

[Robert]

Cow is a multi utility animal. From Milk/Dairy products to transportation to fertilizer to energy source. A cow can do it all. India recognized this millennia ago. Hence it is a protected animal and given the status of Mother.

Unfortunately there are now more cows than humans with a huge carbon and water footprint. We have to do better than this for the future of our species and the ecosystem.

 

[Robert]

Btw what's the technology being used in this bio fuel system? How are they converting waste into energy?

You can burn it directly but this is highly polluting. Better to turn it into biogas, as dung is 50% methane but then you have the CO2 release problem.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Unfortunately there are now more cows than humans with a huge carbon and water footprint. We have to do better than this for the future of our species and the ecosystem.

More cows are needed because us humans have multiplied so much. Everyone needs their tea and coffee with some milk and everyone eats cheese daily in some form or the other.
We cannot blame the gentle cow for the carbon footprint. Our favorite beverage and food cannot be made without the humble cow.

 

[Robert]

More cows are needed because us humans have multiplied so much. Everyone needs their tea and coffee with some milk and everyone eats cheese daily in some form or the other.
We cannot blame the gentle cow for the carbon footprint. Our favorite beverage and food cannot be made without the humble cow.

Yeah, it can. Oat milk has a much lower carbon footprint and water footprint than moo juice.

We are going to have to learn to eat far less meat. We can cut the global cattle herd by 95% and grow trees and plant-based foods on the grazing land.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Yeah, it can. Oat milk has a much lower carbon footprint and water footprint than moo juice.

We are going to have to learn to eat far less meat. We can cut the global cattle herd by 95% and grow trees and plant-based foods on the grazing land.

Not everyone like milk alternatives. Almond Milk, Soy Milk, Oat milk will not be accepted by general public. May be environment activists might like it.

 

[daytrader]

'Scientifically Proven' That Cow Dung Protects Houses From Atomic Radiation, Says Gujarat Court

In a peculiar claim, a sessions court judge in Gujarat's Tapi district emphasised the need to protect cows and said that it is 'scientifically proven' that houses made of cow dung aren't affected by atomic radiation.

Observation made in November
The observation was made in November last year by Tapi district sessions judge Samir Vyas during the sentencing of a 22-year-old man to life imprisonment for transporting cows and bullocks from Gujarat to Maharashtra in violation of various laws.

The judge also mentioned that cow urine can cure many incurable diseases in the order made available recently.

In his statement, the judge expressed discontent over the slaughtering of cows and remarked that cows are not just animals but "our mother".

'Problems on Earth will be solved'
"All problems of the Earth will be solved the day no drop of cow's blood drops on the Earth. Though we talk about cow protection, it is not implemented on the ground. Incidents of cow slaughter and illegal transportation are happening regularly. This is a disgrace to a civilised society," the court noted in the order.

The judge said though 75 years have passed since India achieved independence, incidents of cow slaughter are on the rise instead of coming down.

"Cow is a symbol of religion. Food grown through cow-based organic farming protects us from many diseases. Science has proved that houses made of cow dung remain unaffected by atomic radiation and cow urine can cure many incurable diseases," he added.

He said cows are in danger because the bovine is being slaughtered in "mechanised slaughterhouses" today and beef is served with meat to non-vegetarian people.

To make people realise the importance of cows, the judge cited some Sanskrit shlokas and said, "religion is born out of cow" because religion is in the form of a 'Vrishabha' (bull), which is the son of a cow.

Life imprisonment for cattle trade
The accused in the case, Mohammad Aamin Anjum, a Maharashtra resident, was arrested by Tapi police in August 2020 for allegedly trying to transport 16 cows and bullocks in a truck to Gujarat.

Upon interception by police, it was found that a cow and a bullock were already dead, as the vehicle lacked ample space for the cattle. Anjum fled the spot but was later held by cops.

In the trial, the sessions court booked him under relevant sections of the Gujarat Animal Preservation Act, 2011, Gujarat Animal Preservation (Amendment) Act, 2017, and the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act, 1960.

In 2017, the state government introduced a strict anti-cow slaughter law in the form of the 'Gujarat Animal Preservation (Amendment) Act, 2017', which provides a life term for anyone found guilty of cow slaughter or having direct involvement in such an illegal act.

The court sentenced the accused to life imprisonment under the amended Act and imposed a fine of Rs 5 lakh on him.

https://www.indiatimes.com/news/ind...omic-radiation-says-gujarat-court-591078.html