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For sure Ireland deserves all the praise but dont forget Pakistan played a very young and new team as well.

Imam
Haris
Babar
Shadab
Faheem
Abbas

6 players who are very new into TEST cricket and hardly have any experience. I must say this is a very BRAVE move by Inzi and Mickey and we as fans need to back this team. Young blood is what we need. we might lose future games against stronger teams but the lads will learn and improve. Experience is overrated atleast in PAK cricket as we all have seen what the so called experienced players have done in the past and in this match.

Pak has great history and pride in playing test cricket and seeing this young team doing well gives us as fans great hope for the future.

PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
 
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This team will take the odd beatings and won't become world beaters overnight.

Just need to be persisted with and they will get the hang of it or either get hanged, lol.
 
Ireland has plenty of players who have either played for England or in County Cricket, they were playing in their backyard and are certainly no pushovers. This is not a small win for a young Pakistani test team led by a new test captain.

Also note that a more experienced Pakistani test team lost a test match to Zimbabwe in Zimbabwe under the leadership of the great Misbah ul Haq.
 
Yes, all of them should be shortlisted for the Pride of Performance Award next year for beating Ireland on their Test debut.
 
Mamoon said:
Yes, all of them should be shortlisted for the Pride of Performance Award next year for beating Ireland on their Test debut.
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Of course not but 6 out of 11 are very young at this level and Ireland is an English county standard side in these conditions despite no contributions from the seniors and lacklustre captaincy it was an assured victory with some wobbles and youngsters making a mark
 
Imam
Babar
Harris
Shadab
Faheem
Abbas

adding Hassan Ali

All are very new to test cricket. Need to be persisted with

The backups like Fakhar, Saad and usman have yet to make debut.
 
I dunno why some people always broadcast an image of doom and gloom.

This is an inexperienced lineup,most players are in their early to mid 20's.I'm pretty sure the Irish squad has more FC caps.

Even if we do get beaten by England,it is no shame.But I'm pretty sure we can win.
 
Itna bhi na credit do. Move on. Just the first step for what could become an excellent test team.

Asad and Rahat out for Salahuddin and Hasan.
 
Mamoon said:
Yes, all of them should be shortlisted for the Pride of Performance Award next year for beating Ireland on their Test debut.
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Why so extreme? There is something called a middle ground.

There has been a lot of talk about how terrible it is that Pakistan allowed this game to get close against a team playing their first test match.

What the OP is saying is that, Ireland have been praised for their performance because they are playing their first match while Pakistan has played many. While this is correct, many of the Irish team have played a lot of county and other 4 day cricket in those conditions. They are not a young / inexperienced team by any stretch of the imagination unless you focus solely on Test matches alone.

On the other hand, Pakistan have a number of young players who have never experienced conditions like this and actually have very limited first class experience. Every one of them have stood up in this game at crucial points.

No need to for the 'performance award' but credit should be given. Had this been a test match in UAE with Misbah and Younis and Yasir etc playing then we could have rightly had different standards.
 
We are Pakistan not some associate team. We should be among the best teams in the world, and we need to instill that mentality and belief in our young players.

Can you do that by patting them on the backs for beating Ireland on their Test debut? I don't think so. It does not matter if you are a debutant or not - if you are playing for Pakistan, you should be ready to take on the best teams in the world and not celebrate wins against Ireland.

Karun Nair scored a triple-hundred against England and found himself out of the team the very next series.

Those are the standards that India has set for their players, and we need to aspire to reach those standards. Celebrating wins against Ireland and giving youngsters credit for winning matches that they are supposed to be win is not how you create a winning culture and instill ruthless mentality into the young players.

This Ireland team is at the level of an average county team. An international team with a deep cricketing history and heritage should be beating county level teams 10 times out of 10, regardless of the number of youngsters in the team.
 
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I think it's fine to give credit to the selectors for picking a young team, but the players themselves don't get any credit unless they earned it. Ireland is a poor team by test standards, I am going to have to agree with Mamoon here, Pakistan should be setting their standards higher. The bowling was abysmal for large spells by experienced players, and the batting very patchy, probably saved by the lower order not collapsing in the first innings.

Unfortunately these changes should have been made about a year ago, effectively Pakistan are going to be taking on a top test side with no idea who their best team is.
 
It's not exactly cause for handing out the mithai to the neighbours.

What should've been a routine win after dismissing Ireland for 130 all out became a huge struggle. Doesn't bode well for England.
 
Markhor said:
It's not exactly cause for handing out the mithai to the neighbours.

What should've been a routine win after dismissing Ireland for 130 all out became a huge struggle. Doesn't bode well for England.
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It is good that the Pakistani team was made to grind, that way we know who the weak links are. Hopefully Rahat will sit on the bench for now
 
Just move on they were supposed to perform here. I would give them credit if they can leave their heads high from England series
 
Mamoon said:
Yes, all of them should be shortlisted for the Pride of Performance Award next year for beating Ireland on their Test debut.
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Although I agree we don't need to do OTT celebrations, it's a fact that the bowling they faced was very tough and not something you experience in Asia.

Credit where due based on what they faced and conditions. I would have discredited them had they won it in Asia or where the ball wasn't doing much.

For Babar/Harris/Imam it was a good learning experience. Pathetic show from others.

Just saying "but it was Ireland" isn't fair in this case.
 
Not a convincing performance at all by Pakistan but yeah, a victory is a victory.

I'm not sure if this is a young team though, if 'New to test cricket" makes a team "young" then they were playing "Infants" to be honest because 10 Irish players were on "Test Debut".
 
Mamoon said:
We are Pakistan not some associate team. We should be among the best teams in the world, and we need to instill that mentality and belief in our young players.

Can you do that by patting them on the backs for beating Ireland on their Test debut? I don't think so. It does not matter if you are a debutant or not - if you are playing for Pakistan, you should be ready to take on the best teams in the world and not celebrate wins against Ireland.

Karun Nair scored a triple-hundred against England and found himself out of the team the very next series.

Those are the standards that India has set for their players, and we need to aspire to reach those standards. Celebrating wins against Ireland and giving youngsters credit for winning matches that they are supposed to be win is not how you create a winning culture and instill ruthless mentality into the young players.

This Ireland team is at the level of an average county team. An international team with a deep cricketing history and heritage should be beating county level teams 10 times out of 10, regardless of the number of youngsters in the team.
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That's why India keep playing Rohit Sharma in tests and Karthik in ODIs? From your posts, one will get the impression that Indian batting is packed with world beaters from #1 to #7 which is completely false. In ODIs, India heavily relies on Sharma, Dhawan, and Kohli. In tests, it has been just Kohli and Pujara.
 
Despite all the rola shola...I've been watching Pakistan since 81/82 series against India...and surprise surprise somethings never change.
The Pak Team never seems to improve...they always seem to be lacking in batting, 'Panicstan' they were once called, followed by fielding and the saving grace has always been the bowling ever since those days of IK and Sarfraz Nawaz.
For us to ever challenge the top sides and be considered on par with Windies from 70s/80s and Aussies of the latter years, we need to be equally as good in all depts just like these guys were.
 
sam_ahm said:
Not a convincing performance at all by Pakistan but yeah, a victory is a victory.

I'm not sure if this is a young team though, if 'New to test cricket" makes a team "young" then they were playing "Infants" to be honest because 10 Irish players were on "Test Debut".
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compare the FC cricket matches both team players have played; this Pakistani test team is very young
 
It comes as no surprise that Faheem Ashraf had the audacity to do a customary sajda after a 50, let alone against Ireland.
 
The_Odd_One said:
That's why India keep playing Rohit Sharma in tests and Karthik in ODIs? From your posts, one will get the impression that Indian batting is packed with world beaters from #1 to #7 which is completely false. In ODIs, India heavily relies on Sharma, Dhawan, and Kohli. In tests, it has been just Kohli and Pujara.
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It’s like saying SA relying heavily on Abdv and duplessis, Aus relying heavily on Smith and Warner, you can go like that to mock any batting lineup.

Rahane, Vijay, Rahul, are very capable test players and they have proved that not only scoring at home, away as well.
 
Great win boys! This will give us confidence going into England series
 
sam_ahm said:
Not a convincing performance at all by Pakistan but yeah, a victory is a victory.

I'm not sure if this is a young team though, if 'New to test cricket" makes a team "young" then they were playing "Infants" to be honest because 10 Irish players were on "Test Debut".
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Ireland XI which played in this match has played a combine of around 1300 FC matches while as Pakistan XI has played a total of 750 odd FC matches.
2 guys made their debut
1 was playing his second match.
1 was playing his sixth match and one was playing his 3rd match.
 
It has been an intriguing game. Very impressive debut from Ireland.

But instead I keep reading the commmets like death of Pakistani cricket.
 
Good performance indeed. They say Test cricket is about charcter and young, least experienced players stood firm under pressure. First Shadab, Fahim, then Abbas (Shadab as well, his bowling value can't be see from stats, kept score board in check when O'Brien could have saved the Test), finally Imam & Babar.

I know, it's Ireland on their debut, but the situation wasn't soft - Sarfraz, Azhar, Asad & Rahat almost lost the game and barring Amir, these are 4 most experienced players. Even for his 60, Asad got out like a novice, when he could & should have settled the game in 1st innings alone.

Well played, kids - the worst performer of this Test is current & former Captain; youngsters saved their face.
 
It's not all doom and gloom like some posters make it out to be. But the fact that Sarfraz, Azhar and Asad haven't stepped up will be a concern.

Sarfraz has to improve his keeping for the next two test matches or he will be under serious pressure. His batting will definitely come good in one of the tests as he scores quickly enough.

Azhar's form is a real worry. He doesn't have enough match practice and is now woefully out of touch. He was supposed to kick on and become the leader of this line up but now he will be looking over his shoulder because Fakhar is threatening to break into the team.

Asad Shafiq lacks the fire it seems sometimes. He will go out and play blinders at times and other times he gets out cheaply. Was definitely a better fit at number 6 because he is struggling to cope with the expectations of batting up the order.

The other concern was Rahat. He did bowl a bit better as time went on but I think Hassan Ali comes in for him next test. I really really would like to see Rahat fulfill his ability as a bowler but I don't think he will. He doesn't know how to set people up. For a swing bowler, his lengths are often all over the place. For a guy who can bowl in the 140s he can't bowl fiery spells like Amir can.
 
Hawkeye said:
Although I agree we don't need to do OTT celebrations, it's a fact that the bowling they faced was very tough and not something you experience in Asia.
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They faced the absolute textbook definition of pure trundlers, literally pancake throwers, at 120 KPH, with traceable, one directional swing. It is DISGRACEFUL that our senior duds flopped vs this lot.
 
Credit?? We are fickle Pakistani fans..our full time job is to discredit our team whenever we can!
 
Mamoon said:
We are Pakistan not some associate team. We should be among the best teams in the world, and we need to instill that mentality and belief in our young players.

Can you do that by patting them on the backs for beating Ireland on their Test debut? I don't think so. It does not matter if you are a debutant or not - if you are playing for Pakistan, you should be ready to take on the best teams in the world and not celebrate wins against Ireland.

Karun Nair scored a triple-hundred against England and found himself out of the team the very next series.

Those are the standards that India has set for their players, and we need to aspire to reach those standards. Celebrating wins against Ireland and giving youngsters credit for winning matches that they are supposed to be win is not how you create a winning culture and instill ruthless mentality into the young players.

This Ireland team is at the level of an average county team. An international team with a deep cricketing history and heritage should be beating county level teams 10 times out of 10, regardless of the number of youngsters in the team.
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Do you remember under Misbah's team there was cake given for every 5fer and ton? Even when they used to lose they would pose for photos which would be circulated by the PCB media in no time lol. As much I'm a Pakistan fan it's all very embarrassing and excessive and unfortunately this is what differentiates a small minded and a champion mindset.
 
ArsenalFC said:
Do you remember under Misbah's team there was cake given for every 5fer and ton? Even when they used to lose they would pose for photos which would be circulated by the PCB media in no time lol. As much I'm a Pakistan fan it's all very embarrassing and excessive and unfortunately this is what differentiates a small minded and a champion mindset.
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It’s disgusting as a loyal PAK supporter to see that cake celebration.

Even in a winning cause, players should not be eating cake.
 
HuzaifaE said:
They faced the absolute textbook definition of pure trundlers, literally pancake throwers, at 120 KPH, with traceable, one directional swing. It is DISGRACEFUL that our senior duds flopped vs this lot.
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I've only seen the highlights and there the deliveries were good enough, like the Shafiq wicket in 2nd innings.

Trundling doesn't matter, Asif was a mega trundler but her trundling was ideal for these conditions and swinging plus seaming the ball on green tracks.

Since I didn't watch the full match, I cannot say for sure if their bowling was poor throughout, but doesn't look like that from the highlights.
 
Whatever happens this is good experience for a young team. Refreshing to see no more TTF selections in panic mode for overseas tour.
 
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Youngsters saved the day but all we hear is we need experience:)))

Convinced these younger players will improve the more first class cricket they play .
 
Mamoon said:
We are Pakistan not some associate team. We should be among the best teams in the world, and we need to instill that mentality and belief in our young players.

Can you do that by patting them on the backs for beating Ireland on their Test debut? I don't think so. It does not matter if you are a debutant or not - if you are playing for Pakistan, you should be ready to take on the best teams in the world and not celebrate wins against Ireland.

Karun Nair scored a triple-hundred against England and found himself out of the team the very next series.

Those are the standards that India has set for their players, and we need to aspire to reach those standards. Celebrating wins against Ireland and giving youngsters credit for winning matches that they are supposed to be win is not how you create a winning culture and instill ruthless mentality into the young players.

This Ireland team is at the level of an average county team. An international team with a deep cricketing history and heritage should be beating county level teams 10 times out of 10, regardless of the number of youngsters in the team.
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If there is one team that our young and upcoming players shouldnt look at is India. LOL example dena hi tha to AUS aur SA ka do. India? Come back when they win series in AUS or SA.

The good thing about the win today is that during this test the youngsters stood up. Also under grey skies on a 5th day pitch given our history chasing its a job well done.

I am sure this win will take the young players forward. Winning is a good habbit. Also they enjoy it, hassan ali didnt play but you could see how close they all are.

You can continue downgrade this win.

Good luck.
 
ManFan said:
It’s disgusting as a loyal PAK supporter to see that cake celebration.

Even in a winning cause, players should not be eating cake.
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It really gives the wrong message to do this ever so frequently.
 
pakistani pride said:
If there is one team that our young and upcoming players shouldnt look at is India. LOL example dena hi tha to AUS aur SA ka do. India? Come back when they win series in AUS or SA.
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The same India that had to regrow and regroup with a younger side after their stalwarts left? The same India with a captain that leads from the front in every aspect and sets an example to inspire a new generation of talent? the same India that won a WT20, WC, CT in a decade? The same India at the top of the rankings? Sounds like a fantastic example.
 
UN talkz said:
Ireland XI which played in this match has played a combine of around 1300 FC matches while as Pakistan XI has played a total of 750 odd FC matches.
2 guys made their debut
1 was playing his second match.
1 was playing his sixth match and one was playing his 3rd match.
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That plus the big leveller was conditions. Alien to 8 or 9 out of our 11 unlike their 11
 
UN talkz said:
Ireland XI which played in this match has played a combine of around 1300 FC matches while as Pakistan XI has played a total of 750 odd FC matches.
2 guys made their debut
1 was playing his second match.
1 was playing his sixth match and one was playing his 3rd match.
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Even in those 750 matches

500 alone is for 3- 4players

The rest combined have played around 200 FC matches only
 
Next match we will play an even younger side ;)
Rahat's 21 test matches are useless.

Apart from Amir, Sarfraz, Azhar, Asad (hopefully not) none of the guys have 15 or more test matches under their name.
 
Only three of those are young, maybe four. Haris and Abbas aren't, they should be midway through their careers by now, they were just selected late/injured.

I feel we often tend to find reasons for losses/poor performance. Happy to lose and say youngsters/new guys will improve. If often doesn't work out. People said the same thing about are youngsters five years ago in Jamshed, Umar Akmal, Shehzad, Maqsood etc. and they've turned on them.

A better way is simply just rating people on performance. It's all that matters not the age you did it at. And if younger guys want to break into the team it has to be by outperforming the current lot/seniors. Or at least hitting a similar level. And if you don't have the chance to do that internationally, you can at least do it domestically and then push for selection.

A lot of the talented younger guys e.g. Babar, Hasan, Shadab for example tend to show something early on/succeed early on and would make the team currently on merit regardless of age.

End of the day none of these guys in the team were newcomers except Imam. The rest have played quite a few games at international level, whatever the format. And should have beaten Ireland convincingly. Having said that the poor decision to follow on, poor captaincy (ultra defensive at times) and poor fielding really didn't help them and made it a lot closer than it would have.
 
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This is a good performance but irrespective of the side Pakistan had they were supposed to beat Ireland. I don't think anyone was expecting any other result at the start of the test. The fact that Ireland pushed them this much should be a cause for concern for Pakistan for the upcoming test series. The team was 159/6 and 14/3 in either innings which shows that a more experienced bowling lineup could have run though the lineup in both the innings.

Even though this is a good performance from the youngsters, I will still be worried about the non-performance of Azhar and Sarfaraz.
 
UN talkz said:
Ireland XI which played in this match has played a combine of around 1300 FC matches while as Pakistan XI has played a total of 750 odd FC matches.
2 guys made their debut
1 was playing his second match.
1 was playing his sixth match and one was playing his 3rd match.
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srh said:
compare the FC cricket matches both team players have played; this Pakistani test team is very young
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Brothers you can call them "inexperienced" in that case, but not exactly "young".

Other than Imam, Shadab and may be Faheem none of them are young.
 
The debutants performed well. Babar looked solid as well. That’s a big positive for you guys. Playing cricket in the cold climate of Ireland isn’t that easy for a subcontinent team.

However I don’t know if comparing Pakistan’s debutants and Ireland’s debutants is such a wise thing to do. It’s something the Pak fans should think about. Do remember that this is your full strength team, except for the omission of Hasan Ali. So I feel you should be a bit more ambitious. Expectations should be higher.
 
Congratulations! Indeed a proud day for the youngsters.

Hope we have more Ireland-Pakistan games in future. Test cricket needs more such competitions.
 
Did someone start a thread to congratulate Pakistan for beating Northants?

Or would they have if it was a strong Div 1 team?

It's a bit strange to take any pride in avoiding an embarrassing defeat no matter how 'green' our team is.

Ireland had XI debutants, most not up to international standard. Heck, how many of those XI could've been selected in the Pakistan team if they were available? Not even Kevin O'Brien with his domestic average.

Maybe a couple of them could've played in a WI or another weak team.

I don't want to take away from the hard work the young guys did but I think feet should planted firmly in reality.

I know that the Irish had more first class experience, but on no planet did that mean we shouldn't have beaten them easily. And we didn't beat them easily.
 
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Did someone start a thread to congratulate Pakistan for beating Northants?

Or would they have if it was a strong Div 1 team?

It's a bit strange to take any pride in avoiding an embarrassing defeat no matter how 'green' our team is.

Ireland had XI debutants, most not up to international standard. Heck, how many of those XI could've been selected in the Pakistan team if they were available? Not even Kevin O'Brien with his domestic average.

Maybe a couple of them could've played in a WI or another weak team.

I don't want to take away from the hard work the young guys did but I think feet should planted firmly in reality.

I know that the Irish had more first class experience, but on no planet did that mean we shouldn't have beaten them easily. And we didn't beat them easily.
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Did we play a test match vs Northants?
I really hope this Irish teams plays more tests in early May vs Asian teams.

Then you will get your anwser.
They will be dangerous at HOME.
 
pakistani pride said:
Did we play a test match vs Northants?
I really hope this Irish teams plays more tests in early May vs Asian teams.

Then you will get your anwser.
They will be dangerous at HOME.
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I wish that for the sake of Irish/Test cricket, though I don’t need my answer sonaya. :yk2
 
Pakistan is #7, in the cricketing dumpster with WI, SL, ZIM etc. India rules the roost. Pakistan’s best batsman Azhar Ali who couldn’t make it into the IND A team.

Those are facts and no amount of Pakistan Zindabaads will change that.

It’s some kind of extreme nationalism induced blindness that prevents people from seeing these facts.

India were humbled by Pakistan in CT. All previous WC records don’t matter because all those people are long gone. India is still a better team but for the most important match in 2 years, they weren’t good enough.

Can we move on please?
 
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This side has opened a few eyes!
 
How dare Pakistani praise young Pakistani team?

Everyone Pakistani must keep in mind 'the self proclaimed intelligent messiah's' before praising the young Pakistani player for doing what they were suppose to do, play cricket and try to win as many times as they can.

Great effort by these young boys.
 
This is a fluke. No Pakistani team can achieve true greatness until we have 3 or 4 40+ seniors pretending to be 30 years old in the team!
 
Lol just 10 days back people were ridiculing this young team. Some posters even called this test team as the worst in 4 decades. Shows how impatient we are. Sabr krna aur time dena seekho bhayyun.
 
Pak batsman have looked solid today. They have batted the way one should in test matches.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Lol just 10 days back people were ridiculing this young team. Some posters even called this test team as the worst in 4 decades. Shows how impatient we are. Sabr krna aur time dena seekho bhayyun.
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Some said the matches wouldn’t even last 3 days :))
 
babajee said:
Some said the matches wouldn’t even last 3 days :))
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And some nodded as usual what great posts etc etc :p Bas 10 lambi lines dekh lin English ki, apni koi soch he nai, koi confidence he nai team pr. A shame really. Are these guys really fans? Who jump when the team is doing good but didn't even give a little time to this young test team. Aisa to 10 ***** bachay bhi nai krtay yar.
 
saeed5646 said:
Match is not over yet tora sabar kr lo bhaiyo
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Not about the outcome of the match yar. Mainly about k we should give this team some time. Most of them are new to test cricket and will become better with experience. Give them some time. Atleast till SA series.
 
Usual suspects spouting the same old drivel series after series. Pakistan are by no means the best team in the world but get behind the team and give them some praise, certain posters will find any excuse to bring Pakistan down any time they win.
 
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SarfiBabarHaris said:
Lol just 10 days back people were ridiculing this young team. Some posters even called this test team as the worst in 4 decades. Shows how impatient we are. Sabr krna aur time dena seekho bhayyun.
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I think the worries about our batting were merited after the struggles against Ireland.

However they applied themselves much better here. Hopefully we can keep going and build a big lead.

What's good is we've lots of red ball cricket coming up in the next 2 years so this young Test team can gain experience.
 
Markhor said:
I think the worries about our batting were merited after the struggles against Ireland.

However they applied themselves much better here. Hopefully we can keep going and build a big lead.

What's good is we've lots of red ball cricket coming up in the next 2 years so this young Test team can gain experience.
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Maybe Ireland are just better than England? :yk
 
Professionalism of this current team

Its so heartening to see how disciplined these kids are compared to the teams of the past. All credit goes to Mickey and to some extent Misbah. I hope we are able to sustain this kind of environment in the dressing room for a long time. Just from seeing them out on the field, you can tell they have a good work ethic and that fitness is their top priority. This makes it a lot easier for fans to support the team even during its rough patches as long as they know that these guy are giving it their best both on and off the field.
 
It's one thing putting it on a length and swinging or seaming it one way, but it shows real skill to be able to do it both ways.

The Pakistany bowlers not only showed discipline with their lines and lengths but also swung and seamed it both ways.
 
There is a general positivity to PCT since CT victory,feels like they are improving on most aspects of the game.
 
PukhtoonZalmay88 said:
Its so heartening to see how disciplined these kids are compared to the teams of the past. All credit goes to Mickey and to some extent Misbah. I hope we are able to sustain this kind of environment in the dressing room for a long time. Just from seeing them out on the field, you can tell they have a good work ethic and that fitness is their top priority. This makes it a lot easier for fans to support the team even during its rough patches as long as they know that these guy are giving it their best both on and off the field.
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No credit to Misbah

We couldn't unearth a single good fast bowler and AR under his leadership.

Thank God Sarfi has taken over.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1-1 against England in early summer and with a young and inexperienced team is still a good effort by Pakistan <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EngvPak?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#EngvPak</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1003296528977494016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3 June 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Plenty of positive signs for Pakistan in this series. The youngsters and less experienced players showed that they have what it takes to play against the best in Test cricket <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EngvPak?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#EngvPak</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1003297146773401600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3 June 2018</a></blockquote>
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