Current India T20I batting versus Pakistan T20I batting

[Kroll]

Even in the pajama cricket of T20. The Indian batting appears far superior to Pakistan's with proper stroke makers who can go through the gears at any time. Some achievemnt for Pakstan to get to no.1 in the rankings despite this.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Pakistan has the no. 1 ranked T20 batsman. I guess that helps.

 

[Dingolfy]

India has better infrastructure, better FC and youth structures,also has a better T20 league which has been running for a decade.So obviously our batting would be better.

 

[Saj]

The Indians look on a different level at the moment.

Lots of batting firepower and not relying on one or two of the top order batsmen.

 

[jadaja]

Pakistan batting is full of batsmen who have very little technique and are pure hit and miss. Indians are more consistent and have better techniques.They are better in all formats and it is not even a contest.

 

[troodon]

Pak does not depend on its batting to win. They never did. It was always a bowling team.

Now Pak has found 1 big hitter at the top and one consistent scorer in the middle to be very competitive.

India has a better team, but when these 2 play, stats do not mean anything (Unless its WC).

 

[fitCricFan]

If this thread it is pure chest-thumping and entertainment then Pakistan gets my vote otherwise its a nobrainer. Watched the Indian's play and they look like a professional bunch unlike our own men-in-green.

Just scored tickets for the 1st ODI in Bristol, can't wait to see it in person.

 

[fitCricFan]

Pak does not depend on its batting to win. They never did. It was always a bowling team

That is seriously misstated. You need a balanced team to win. A good bowling or batting only team can get you a occasional wins and will always lack consistency. Same difference between a player with a good technique vs no-technique.

 

[Rahul1]

Pak does not depend on its batting to win. They never did. It was always a bowling team.

Now Pak has found 1 big hitter at the top and one consistent scorer in the middle to be very competitive.

India has a better team, but when these 2 play, stats do not mean anything (Unless its WC).

Who is that?

 

[YousafTheBeast]

It’s blasphemy to compare India’s batting v Pakistan’s. their A team could walk into our side.

 

[Kroll]

India have the likes of Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli etc plus this new kid Rahul walking out, we have Ahmed Shehzad and Mo Hafeez walking out.

 

[troodon]

Who is that?

Zaman. He is a huge upgrade over Shehzad and Azar Ali.

 

[Slim]

Pakistani batting line up has Zaman, Babar, Malik who are better than anything what India has to offer. I would say the batting line up is on equal terms.

 

[troodon]

Pakistani batting line up has Zaman, Babar, Malik who are better than anything what India has to offer. I would say the batting line up is on equal terms.

Don't fall for this guy. He is obviously trolling.

Most Pak posters are very objective.

 

[Slim]

Don't fall for this guy. He is obviously trolling.

Most Pak posters are very objective.

Trolling? Kindly look at their stats. Babar is number one t20I bat, Malik is averaging in 50s in the last 25 matches, and Zaman is one of the best bats going round. Its hard to digest for you, doesnt means its trolling. Perception and reality are two different things.

 

[BaankeJi]

Pakistani batting line up has Zaman, Babar, Malik who are better than anything what India has to offer. I would say the batting line up is on equal terms.

Goes without saying, doesn't it?

 

[Syed1]

Well lucky for us cricket is a sport that involves both bat and ball. Our bowling lineup is miles better than theirs and our batting only has to chase whatever score the opposition manages to put up or score enough runs that our bowling can defend. Pakistan has the record of dismissing sides 22 times in T20s. No other side comes close.


If it was just a comparison of batting fire power then India wins hands down.

 

[Dingolfy]

Well lucky for us cricket is a sport that involves both bat and ball. Our bowling lineup is miles better than theirs and our batting only has to chase whatever score the opposition manages to put up or score enough runs that our bowling can defend. Pakistan has the record of dismissing sides 22 times in T20s. No other side comes close.


If it was just a comparison of batting fire power then India wins hands down.

With the addition of Chahal and Kuldeep, out bowling is pretty good.And out of 22 dismissals, how many of them were non-minnows?Also our head-to-head record is 6-1.

 

[Syed1]

With the addition of Chahal and Kuldeep, out bowling is pretty good.And out of 22 dismissals, how many of them were non-minnows?Also our head-to-head record is 6-1.

So head to head record is acceptable in T20s but cannot be brought up in ODIs and Tests?

 

[Dingolfy]

So head to head record is acceptable in T20s but cannot be brought up in ODIs and Tests?

Recent head-to-head records are defintely an indicator of how good the things are.And I have also said other things too.

 

[Mp812]

Pakistani batting line up has Zaman, Babar, Malik who are better than anything what India has to offer. I would say the batting line up is on equal terms.

I disagree . Add faheem ashraf and it is better than India's

 

[Slim]

So head to head record is acceptable in T20s but cannot be brought up in ODIs and Tests?

Of course, you cannot bring it. Otherwise, you would be called a troll. We should only bring facts that suit our dear parosis.

 

[jnaveen1980]

There is a lot of room for improvement. But prejudiced selections won't allow that to happen.

 

[kuskash]

Pakistani batting line up has Zaman, Babar, Malik who are better than anything what India has to offer. I would say the batting line up is on equal terms.

Not true even in dreams.

 

[UP]

There’s no competition.

However, Pak never relied on their batting - its always been the bowling.

 

[Hasan123]

LOL there's no compairson when it comes to batting. Dhwaan is India's 3rd best LO bat imo but he's well ahead of all LO batsmen other than maybe Babar. No compairson when it comes to batting.

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

Is this even a comparison?

Atleast if you compare the bowling of both the sides that would be a better comparison.

 

[daytrader]

Is this thread created just to rule up Pakistani fans? what's the point of this thread? If batting alone was a measurement of how good a team is then India would be #1, but fortunately this is cricket and Pakistan is currently ranked the better team.

 

[big_gamer007]

Pakistani batting line up is very hit and miss, on their day they can post 200 against any team.

Consistency wise indian batting is better..

India’s strength in T20 is two wrist spinners, Pakistan negates our strength as they are historically a brilliant spin playing nation so against India Pakistan will have a pretty good chance of winning.. It will come down to how Pakistani pacers perform against indian batsmen 9 our Of 10 times.

 

[big_gamer007]

Is this thread created just to rule up Pakistani fans? what's the point of this thread? If batting alone was a measurement of how good a team is then India would be #1, but fortunately this is cricket and Pakistan is currently ranked the better team.

Nothing to take away from Pakistan being number 1 in T20’s they deserve it..

However I don’t think T20 rankings are accurate in determining which team is the best in T20.

Currently Pakistan, India and England are the three best T20 teams but WI, Australia, SA and NZ can on their day beat any of these teams.. T20 as a format has a very high probability of a single guy turning the match because of the low number of overs.. So more often than not it’s an individual performance which leads a team to victory rather than team effort..

A full scale 5 match test series, 7 match ODI series and 5 T20’s over a course of 6 months between India and Pakistan would be a fascinating contest..

 

[BlackShadow]

So much talk of ranking in a format where teams hardly play 10 matches per year and top teams usually go with their 2nd or 3rd eleven.

Full strength Indian/Aussie/English sides will thump Pakistan 8/10 times in T20s, and it's not even debatable.

 

[Mamoon]

There is no comparison. Not a single Pakistani batsman, including Babar, gets into the Indian lineup.

They blow us out of the water as far as batting is concerned. When it comes to bowling, it is comparable but India have a better spin attack.

Overall, India is comfortably better and that is why our artificial ranking is a complete farce.

 

[ethan hunt]

So much talk of ranking in a format where teams hardly play 10 matches per year and top teams usually go with their 2nd or 3rd eleven.

Full strength Indian/Aussie/English sides will thump Pakistan 8/10 times in T20s, and it's not even debatable.

Lol .Pakistan thumped England even more convincingly the last time the 2 teams met .
There are no real weak teams here . Doesnt westindies and Evin lewis always smash India in t20s ?

 

[Mamoon]

Even in the pajama cricket of T20. The Indian batting appears far superior to Pakistan's with proper stroke makers who can go through the gears at any time. Some achievemnt for Pakstan to get to no.1 in the rankings despite this.

Not an achievement at all. Any non-minnow team would go top after playing so many games as weak opposition and minnows in quick succession.

Our poor batting lineup wasn’t tested enough, and our half-decent spin attack bullied teams who had no idea how to tackle spin.

Pakistan is the 4th/5th T20 team at the moment, and I am being generous.

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

Pakistan is the 4th/5th T20 team at the moment, and I am being generous.

Seems to me you have a different understanding of what the word "generous" means

 

[Arham_PakFan]

India’s batting has always been superior.Hopefully we uncover some more power hitters like Asif.

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

So much talk of ranking in a format where teams hardly play 10 matches per year and top teams usually go with their 2nd or 3rd eleven.

Full strength Indian/Aussie/English sides will thump Pakistan 8/10 times in T20s, and it's not even debatable.

That's a lame argument. It's not Pakistan's fault other teams aren't fielding their best 11. Maybe they should field better teams so they are ranked higher in the rankings

 

[YousafTheBeast]

India’s batting has always been superior.Hopefully we uncover some more power hitters like Asif.

We have, we just don’t select them!

 

[hadi123]

It's a no-brainer. India any day of the week. Sharma, Kohli, Dhawan, Rahul, Dhoni etc will strike a lot more fear into the opposition than our team's line up would unfortunately

 

[Amjid Javed]

Indias batting in all formats of the game is light years ahead of pakistans feeble batting!

 

[Shafi]

Big difference is team selection. India has fair and performance base selection where we have quota (TTF) and dishonesty (Team selector).

 

[Rahul1]

It's a no-brainer. India any day of the week. Sharma, Kohli, Dhawan, Rahul, Dhoni etc will strike a lot more fear into the opposition than our team's line up would unfortunately

Definitely not him.

 

[Shafi]

If we have a selector who is honest and average understanding about modern day cricket+ aware of domestic young performers we would be world beater.

 

[hadi123]

Definitely not him.

He's not as good anymore but if you see his name on a team sheet you would still be wary of him.

 

[Markhor]

I'm sorry but you have to call it as you see it - there's no comparison.

 

[nextover666666]

Is this even a comparison?

Atleast if you compare the bowling of both the sides that would be a better comparison.

No that would not be a better comparison cuz Indians can't bowl lol batting yes India is better won't argue that but bowling it's Pakistan any day of the week

 

[the_outsider]

No that would not be a better comparison cuz Indians can't bowl lol batting yes India is better won't argue that but bowling it's Pakistan any day of the week

2-3 years ago I would have agreed with you. But now with Bumrah, Bhuvi, Shami, Umesh, Ashwin, Jadeja, Kuldeep and Chahal - India's bowling is the most well rounded across formats currently.

In test, India have been taking 20 wickets more than 9 out of 10 times. And in LOI have bowlers with the lowest economy rate in the last 2 years (Bumrah) and most importantly two top class wrist spinners. No other team right now has 2 wrist spinners bowling the way Chahal and Kuldeep are bowling.

I think some individuals like Hasan Ali are better than any Indian fast bowler (except Bumrah whom I rate equally) but overall I think the the two bowling sides are equally strong.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pakistan batting very rarely matched up with Indian batting at any given point. Not a surprise now. Pakistan's strength is their collective intensity of bowling. Even when they have just okay bowling they step up in unison in big matches. They collectively click with bowling. THat is what help them win tournaments. Battingwise Pakistan batting has always been iffy. Not something that is new.

 

[nextover666666]

2-3 years ago I would have agreed with you. But now with Bumrah, Bhuvi, Shami, Umesh, Ashwin, Jadeja, Kuldeep and Chahal - India's bowling is the most well rounded across formats currently.

In test, India have been taking 20 wickets more than 9 out of 10 times. And in LOI have bowlers with the lowest economy rate in the last 2 years (Bumrah) and most importantly two top class wrist spinners. No other team right now has 2 wrist spinners bowling the way Chahal and Kuldeep are bowling.

I think some individuals like Hasan Ali are better than any Indian fast bowler (except Bumrah whom I rate equally) but overall I think the the two bowling sides are equally strong.

he got better but i still dont think theirs a comparison but that is just my opinon

 

[Kroll]

Not an achievement at all. Any non-minnow team would go top after playing so many games as weak opposition and minnows in quick succession.

Our poor batting lineup wasn’t tested enough, and our half-decent spin attack bullied teams who had no idea how to tackle spin.

Pakistan is the 4th/5th T20 team at the moment, and I am being generous.

You can only play what's in front of you and by hook or by crook, sometimes it's only the end result that matters. To the unitiated eye, it's only going to see Pakistan at no.1. And despite the isolation from playing at home, I say good on Pakistan getting to no.1 in at least one of the formats!

 

[Sean143]

Pakistan batting very rarely matched up with Indian batting at any given point. Not a surprise now. Pakistan's strength is their collective intensity of bowling. Even when they have just okay bowling they step up in unison in big matches. They collectively click with bowling. THat is what help them win tournaments. Battingwise Pakistan batting has always been iffy. Not something that is new.

Well said.
Sums up the modern Pakistan Team in a nutshell.
We might not be comparable to India in terms of batting, but we can click as a unit at the right moment to deliver the punch. CT 2017 is a great example of that, hopefully we do the same thing to India in WC 2018. IA

 

[The_Odd_One]

India have a much stronger batting line up probably the strongest in the world across all formats. Pakistan's strength has always been bowling.

 

[IAJ]

Well lucky for us cricket is a sport that involves both bat and ball. Our bowling lineup is miles better than theirs and our batting only has to chase whatever score the opposition manages to put up or score enough runs that our bowling can defend. Pakistan has the record of dismissing sides 22 times in T20s. No other side comes close.


If it was just a comparison of batting fire power then India wins hands down.

It’a a myth that our bowling is miles better than theirs. Equally good. They have better spinners, we have better variety in seamers, though Bumrah is better than any bowler on either team.

There is no competition in batting, they or on a different level. This comes down to talent, infrastructure, work ethics etc.

 

[Slim]

Smashed the aussie attack today, posting highest total against Australia. I know which one would be my pick alongwith a better bowling attack.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

Well lucky for us cricket is a sport that involves both bat and ball. Our bowling lineup is miles better than theirs and our batting only has to chase whatever score the opposition manages to put up or score enough runs that our bowling can defend. Pakistan has the record of dismissing sides 22 times in T20s. No other side comes close.


If it was just a comparison of batting fire power then India wins hands down.

Yeah about cricket involving both bat and ball. I'd say anyone would take a side that tops the batting charts and is close enough to being the best with the ball as well. As far no other side coming closer, I think India is fairly closer than you imagine.

Bowl

Bat

 

[shaz72]

Trolling? Kindly look at their stats. Babar is number one t20I bat, Malik is averaging in 50s in the last 25 matches, and Zaman is one of the best bats going round. Its hard to digest for you, doesnt means its trolling. Perception and reality are two different things.

If you compare Pak Vs Indian Batting. Pak has more dept in batting in terms of all-rounders. Where as India has more technically correct batsmen. The only thing which make them apart is temperament which make Indian batting superior, Where as Pakistani batsmen more mercurial.

 

[Adijazz1706]

India has a batting culture which is why no Pakistani batsman can come close to any Indian batsman /s

 

[Adijazz1706]

Big difference is team selection. India has fair and performance base selection where we have quota (TTF) and dishonesty (Team selector).

India has Dhoni, Jadhav and Pandya at 5,6,7 in ODIs, what performances of theirs have you seen the last 10 matches or so?

 

[the_outsider]

Smashed the aussie attack today, posting highest total against Australia. I know which one would be my pick alongwith a better bowling attack.

One win doesn't suddenly make a decent batting side the best in the world.
This Indian batting lineup without KLR and with over-the-hill batsman like Yuvraj whitewashed Australia in Australia. And that was a much stronger Australian side.

Greatness comes with consistent performances. Not one-off wins. This was the first time Pak beat Australia in T20s in 4 years.

 

[The_Odd_One]

One win doesn't suddenly make a decent batting side the best in the world.
This Indian batting lineup without KLR and with over-the-hill batsman like Yuvraj whitewashed Australia in Australia. And that was a much stronger Australian side.

Greatness comes with consistent performances. Not one-off wins. This was the first time Pak beat Australia in T20s in 4 years.

How many times did they face each other in T20Is? 3 times in 4 years?

 

[Slim]

One win doesn't suddenly make a decent batting side the best in the world.
This Indian batting lineup without KLR and with over-the-hill batsman like Yuvraj whitewashed Australia in Australia. And that was a much stronger Australian side.

Greatness comes with consistent performances. Not one-off wins. This was the first time Pak beat Australia in T20s in 4 years.

Pakistan has dead weight like Yuvraj in their ranks as well. Also, KL Rahul is not the second coming of bradman. Relax. Also, what sort of one off wins are you talking about? Pakistan team is number 1 t20I team in the world and having been winning against the likes of England, NZL, WI, AUS, SRL etc.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

If we still had Sharjeel, I'd put us ahead. India is ahead now with Rahul establishing himself.

 

[The_Odd_One]

If Sharjeel and Latif were still playing, Pakistan had a good chance to compete with Indian batting lineup in T20s.

1. Sharjeel
2. Fakhar
3. Babar
4. Latif
5. Asif

This is an explosive batting line up.

 

[Syed1]

One win doesn't suddenly make a decent batting side the best in the world.
This Indian batting lineup without KLR and with over-the-hill batsman like Yuvraj whitewashed Australia in Australia. And that was a much stronger Australian side.

Greatness comes with consistent performances. Not one-off wins. This was the first time Pak beat Australia in T20s in 4 years.

Pakistan is the only side to score 180+ batting first consecutively four times. The feat was recently achieved and comprised of the two 180+ score they had in NZ.


Just because you are ignorant and uninformed it doesn't change the reality.

 

[the_outsider]

How many times did they face each other in T20Is? 3 times in 4 years?

I still count 1 win out of 4. So what's your point?

 

[jnaveen1980]

If India gets rid of Dhoni and brings in Pant India will have a destructive batting line up. But in T20 you just
need 2 or 3 batsmen clicking. Too strong line up sometimes just play rashly and pass on the job the next in line. But if someone like Rohit clicks in the last 10 it will be absolute carnage something not many teams can achieve. West Indies is the most destructive team when they click. Nobody can match them. Next would be India and England.

 

[The_Odd_One]

I still count 1 win out of 4. So what's your point?

It is a very small sample size. Before this series, the two teams had faced each other a total of 2 times. A period of 4 years is irrelevant here.

 

[the_outsider]

Pakistan is the only side to score 180+ batting first consecutively four times. The feat was recently achieved and comprised of the two 180+ score they had in NZ.

Just because you are ignorant and uninformed it doesn't change the reality.

Wasn't one of those against Scotland. And another against SL on the typical UAE patta?
Not all stats are what they seem to be, mate.

And I don't think Pakistan is a BAD batting unit. I said in an earlier post it is quite decent. My objection was with [MENTION=146948]Slim[/MENTION] suddenly declaring Pakistan as a better batting team than India after beating an Aus B team after 4 attempts.

 

[the_outsider]

It is a very small sample size. Before this series, the two teams had faced each other a total of 2 times. A period of 4 years is irrelevant here.

All the more reason why I objected to [MENTION=146948]Slim[/MENTION]'s comment.

 

[the_outsider]

Wasn't one of those against Scotland. And another against SL on the typical UAE patta?
Not all stats are what they seem to be, mate.

And I don't think Pakistan is a BAD batting unit. I said in an earlier post it is quite decent. My objection was with [MENTION=146948]Slim[/MENTION] suddenly declaring Pakistan as a better batting team than India after beating an Aus B team after 4 attempts.

Correction. The SL game was in Lahore. But it's still only SL.

 

[Syed1]

Correction. The SL game was in Lahore. But it's still only SL.

India plays SL more than any other side so if scoring 180+ consecutively four times was so easy why didn't India's superior batting manage it? Also congratulations for ignoring the fact that 2 of the scores were against NZ in NZ. Just another mindless troll from across the border.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Last 2 years (min 100 runs) strike rate comparison between India and Pakistan batsmen. India has more dynamic players who can turn the game on its head single handedly. They are good at sustained onslaught. Old school player Malik has been the saving grace for Pakistan.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Rahul has hit 29 sixes in 12 innings. That is phenomenal hitting.

 

[Slim]

Wasn't one of those against Scotland. And another against SL on the typical UAE patta?
Not all stats are what they seem to be, mate.

And I don't think Pakistan is a BAD batting unit. I said in an earlier post it is quite decent. My objection was with [MENTION=146948]Slim[/MENTION] suddenly declaring Pakistan as a better batting team than India after beating an Aus B team after 4 attempts.

What are you on about man? We have scored heavily against the likes of England and NZL as well. And how on earth is that an Australia B side? It is the regular Australia side which has beaten NZL and Eng.

 

[Slim]

Last 2 years (min 100 runs) strike rate comparison between India and Pakistan batsmen. India has more dynamic players who can turn the game on its head single handedly. They are good at sustained onslaught. Old school player Malik has been the saving grace for Pakistan.

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Yeah, old school player like Malik. Not players like Zaman and Babar. Saffron bois are unbelievably delusional.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Yeah, old school player like Malik. Not players like Zaman and Babar. Saffron bois are unbelievably delusional.

Malik is head and shoulders above all the noobs as you can see. Babar look at his strike rate. That is worse than one of the worst T20 player India has produced

 

[Slim]

Malik is head and shoulders above all the noobs as you can see. Babar look at his strike rate. That is worse than one of the worst T20 player India has produced

All that matters is strike rate now? Do you accept Afridi is the GOAT?

 

[jnaveen1980]

All that matters is strike rate now? Do you accept Afridi is the GOAT?

That is why i excluded all those who got less than 100. In T20 strike rate is more important. Why do you think Indian fans don't want Rahane, Pandey anywhere near Indian T20 side. Beause of appalling strike rate.

 

[Slim]

That is why i excluded all those who got less than 100. In T20 strike rate is more important. Why do you think Indian fans don't want Rahane, Pandey anywhere near Indian T20 side. Beause of appalling strike rate.

Do you accept Afridi is the GOAT?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Do you accept Afridi is the GOAT?

No. Against India his strike rate is 96 lol Actually for someone who has such a high strike rate in ODI is a failure in T20. Averaging 17 with a strike rate of 150 (mostly against weaker teams) is practically useless.