Daughter of Afghanistan's Ambassador to Pakistan, Allegedly Kidnapped and Tortured

[ahsan17]

Because Pakistan would be hit heavily by FATF if they indulged in this sort of stuff. India would kick up a fuss and the powers that be would be obliged to respond as India is a very important market for leading western countries.

So India has made it expensive to do what it does to Pakistan? That again is failure on Pakistan's part.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Pakistan must answer for this to the International community of Brotherhood and diplomacy.

 

[cric_man]

Pakistan must answer for this to the International community of Brotherhood and diplomacy.

Yeah, we have a lot to answer for. So get in line

 

[cric_man]

Good visualization of the events chronologically. In urdu, so apologies for people who can't understand it.

Apparently the lady is doing MS in Cyber Security from a European institution.

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[WhenSultansBowled]

Good visualization of the events chronologically. In urdu, so apologies for people who can't understand it.

Apparently the lady is doing MS in Cyber Security from a European institution.

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Called it as soon as I read the OP.

Poor Afghan diplomat, genuinely feel for him. The daughter should be ashamed of ridiculing her father's name like this...

 

[KingKhanWC]

Called it as soon as I read the OP.

Poor Afghan diplomat, genuinely feel for him. The daughter should be ashamed of ridiculing her father's name like this...

She should be deported straight to Kabul. Making up a story in order to live in Germany.


@mods please change the title of the thread, enough of these lies against Pakistan.

 

[Giannis]

She should be deported straight to Kabul. Making up a story in order to live in Germany.


@mods please change the title of the thread, enough of these lies against Pakistan.

nah, they should charge her for felony for filing a false police report. Look at what happened to Jussie Smollett for doing the same in Chicago.

 

[MenInG]

She should be deported straight to Kabul. Making up a story in order to live in Germany.


@mods please change the title of the thread, enough of these lies against Pakistan.

Based on what exactly?

Has the Pakistan government stated this?

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Even if this turns out to be a fake kidnapping, Pakistan image has already been tarnished. If it turns out to be false, the western media wont cover it.

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: Somewhere between the claims of the daughter of Afghanistan Ambassador to Pakistan Najibullah Alikhil that she was assaulted in a taxi and the police saying that they found no evidence of her alleged kidnapping and assault lies the truth.

Addressing a news conference along with Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi and National Security Adviser Moeed Yusuf on Monday, the capital’s police chief said that the evidence that the police gathered doesn’t corroborate with what the ambassador’s daughter, Selsela Alikhil, stated in her complaint.

“Our investigation is almost complete,” Inspector General of Police (IGP), Islamabad Qazi Jameelur Rehman said. “The impression that came in the meanwhile [abduction and assault] does not match our evidence.”

Answering a question, the police chief said, the police have ascertained many things but “we need their support, cooperation and facilitation to determine all these things”.

The top-ranked official said, “We have a lot of evidence and the need is to sit and discuss everything with them to make things clear. We are almost there. Very close. We now need their help and support so that we all can sit together and discuss this matter.”

Sharing details of the police investigation into the alleged abduction and release of the Afghan ambassador's daughter in Islamabad last week, the IGP narrated the whole incident that has been verified by technical as well as human resource teams in the last three days.

Declaring that the case is extremely important and sensitive, the IGP said, reporting and working out such an incident – “a totally blind case” – was a challenge for the police.

The capital’s top cop said that no details of the incident were available after the report was filed with the police. “The police did not even know if any taxi was used; who was the driver and where did they go.”

Rehman said that the Islamabad police utilised all of its resources – made five dedicated teams, including technical analysis team, human intelligence analysis, raids and operations team and data analysis team, which was thoroughly supported by the intelligence agencies.

In the investigation process in the last three days, he said, over 300 cameras were scrutinised, which included Safe City’s and private cameras installed at different locations in the twin cities. The IG said that over 700-hour-long video recordings were monitored and over 220 people have so far been interviewed, adding that it’s a common practice in the country that the vehicle is driven by someone else and not the owner and there were occasions where a vehicle had multiple owners.

He said that the teams worked round the clock – checked the owners, traced their locations, reached and investigated them only to find out that the owner had sold the vehicle to someone else. “We found a vehicle which had five owners,” he said, adding that the police reached to the last man based on the information obtained from the previous owners.

Rehman said that over 350 police officials, including women, were working on the case round the clock for the past three days.

The police chief said that the sum up of all these efforts enabled the police to determine and verify the route that the complainant had taken right from leaving her residence to reaching back to it.

Narrating the incident with the help of the evidence collected, the IGP said the complainant left home on foot and took the first taxi in which she travelled from Rana Market to Khadda Market and bought a gift from there. He said the police traced the taxi owner and verified the details of her travel route.

Then, he said, the complainant took the second taxi from Khadda Market to Rawalpindi, saying: “It’s important because the complaint that we have received states that the incident took place in the second taxi, as she says, a man assaulted her after he entered the taxi five minutes into the drive.”

The police traced the second taxi, he said, adding that the vehicle was traced and had three owners whom the police reached after investigating one after the other.

The IG said that the driver verified that he took her from Khadda Market to Saddar, Rawalpindi and charged Rs600, adding that all the CCTV footages from Khadda Market to Expressway to Faizabad and Saddar, Rawalpindi have already been obtained.

Subsequently, the top cop said, the investigation teams reached the point where the taxi driver dropped her, adding that the same was verified by eight CCTV cameras installed at Saddar, Rawalpindi. The driver’s mobile phone was also tracked and it matched the route as well as the destination with accurate timing.

Then, she hired another taxi from Saddar, Rawalpindi to Damn-e-Koh in Islamabad, he maintained, adding that the police got a clue about her from the CCTV cameras installed around Damn-e-Koh. He said that they traced the taxi driver who confirmed that he took her from Saddar, Rawalpindi to Damn-e-Koh for Rs700.

Here, he said, the fourth taxi comes into play. The police chief said that the fourth taxi driver picked her from Damn-e-Koh and dropped her at F-9 Park, adding that on her instructions, the driver took her to F-6 before going to F-9 Park.

The IG said that the driver told the police that she asked him to take her to F-6 as she wanted to use a phone, saying that the complainant’s house is located at F-7 and the embassy at F-6. After she couldn’t find a phone, he said, she asked the taxi driver to drop her at F-9 Park, which he ultimately did.

At F-9, she used someone’s phone to make a call to the embassy and later the embassy staff came to pick her up and dropped her at her residence. He said that the person whose phone she used has also been identified.

Rehman said that the whole track – from home-to-home travelling – was identified as well as verified; all the drivers have been verified; their technical record as well as the safe city and private cameras also verify the same.

Rehman said that the police have sought further assistance from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to address a few points in the case and sent a verbal note as well.

Talking to the media persons, NSA Yusuf said the false social media campaign orchestrated by verified Indian social media accounts, which shared a false picture of the Afghan envoy's daughter, was part of the hybrid warfare against Pakistan.

The Indian propaganda was aimed at creating rifts between Islamabad and Kabul, quoting the EU DisinfoLab report, which had exposed the Indian network of fake news outlets which were maligning Pakistan at the international fora.

Identical social media accounts, which spread propaganda related to Kashmir and Balochistan, had been found involved in fanning fake news regarding the purported abduction saga of Afghan ambassador's daughter, he added.

Some spoilers of peace, he said, were trying to make Pakistan a scapegoat of their failures and they were trying to establish a false narrative that Pakistan and Afghanistan were eternal enemies.

He also highlighted presentations showing various hoax social media campaigns generated through bots and verified Twitter accounts operating from India, Afghanistan and within Pakistan.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2311410/selsela-tight-lipped-at-evidence

 

[MenInG]

Based on what exactly?

Has the Pakistan government stated this?

Have edited the title as its now an allegation.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Even if this turns out to be a fake kidnapping, Pakistan image has already been tarnished. If it turns out to be false, the western media wont cover it.

I think Afghanistan's image suffered more.

This is a classic 'the boy who cried wolf".

Next time (God forbid) anything happens to an Afghan diplomat or their family anywhere in the world, the police/investigation agencies will not take their words seriously. This is an extremely seriously matter and governments don't mesa around with it.

People around the world are not stupid. They know what goes on behind the scenes.

Also, never ever take Indian "media" industry seriously.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

So India has made it expensive to do what it does to Pakistan? That again is failure on Pakistan's part.

How should Pakistan have dealt with this in your opinion?

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: Interior Minister Sheikh Rasheed Ahmed said on Tuesday that the investigation conducted by the Pakistani authorities found no evidence of abduction in the Afghan ambassador's daughter's incident.

“According to our investigation, the incident involving the daughter of the Afghan ambassador is not a case of kidnapping,” said the interior minister in a press conference. He also lamented that Kabul should not have recalled its envoy over a single case.

“The government will fight the case of daughter of the Afghan ambassador [but] our investigation shows that this was not a kidnapping case,” said Rasheed. He added that the girl changed taxis four times and no man sat in any of the taxis during her journey.

The interior minister hoped that the Afghan ambassador would become part of the investigation, adding that the government registered the case itself.

“Everyone’s daughters are equal, it would have been appropriate if the Afghan ambassador had not gone back,” said the minister. He also added that his ministry has given the footage related to the case to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Rasheed said that the envoy’s daughter used the internet throughout her journey, adding that the men accused of the kidnapping were hard-working taxi drivers.

Reports of the ambassador's daughter being "abducted" and "tortured" surfaced on Saturday, with a statement by the Afghan foreign ministry saying that the girl was "abducted for several hours" on Friday.

The Foreign Office issued a statement in response saying that a thorough probe has been launched and law enforcement agencies "are trying to trace and apprehend the culprits to be brought to justice".

In the meanwhile, the security for the ambassador and his family was "beefed up", according to the statement.

Prime Minister Imran Khan had instructed the interior minister to get to the bottom of the matter within 48 hours.

However, the Afghan government recalled its ambassador and senior diplomats from Islamabad citing security concerns.

Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi, in a telephonic discussion with his Afghan counterpart on Monday, shared the progress in the kidnapping case and urged him to withdrawal the decision to recall ambassador.

Investigation completed in Dasu incident

The minister also said that the law enforcement agencies have completed their investigation in the Dasu incident in which at least nine Chinese workers were killed.

“There are attempts being made to create misunderstanding between Pakistan and China,” said the minister. He added that the incident was carried out precisely for this reason.

On July 14, a bus carrying workers in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's Upper Kohistan plunged into a ravine "after a mechanical failure resulting in leakage of gas that caused a blast", a statement from the Foreign Office had said.
According to the statement, Chinese workers and accompanying Pakistani staff "were proceeding to their workplace for an ongoing project".

The accident resulted in the death of 12 people, including nine Chinese nationals.

GEO

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

I think Afghanistan's image suffered more.

This is a classic 'the boy who cried wolf".

Next time (God forbid) anything happens to an Afghan diplomat or their family anywhere in the world, the police/investigation agencies will not take their words seriously. This is an extremely seriously matter and governments don't mesa around with it.

People around the world are not stupid. They know what goes on behind the scenes.

Also, never ever take Indian "media" industry seriously.

I dont take Indian media seriously, but western ones have also covered this. Alot of western newspapers. I didn't see any coverage of Sheik Rasheed saying this is a fake case. Granted the investigation is not over, however I think if the investigation confirms that is topi drama, their will be no coverage.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

ISLAMABAD: Interior Minister Sheikh Rasheed Ahmed said on Tuesday that the investigation conducted by the Pakistani authorities found no evidence of abduction in the Afghan ambassador's daughter's incident.

“According to our investigation, the incident involving the daughter of the Afghan ambassador is not a case of kidnapping,” said the interior minister in a press conference. He also lamented that Kabul should not have recalled its envoy over a single case.

They should release the footage.

 

[globalcitizen]

I dont take Indian media seriously, but western ones have also covered this. Alot of western newspapers. I didn't see any coverage of Sheik Rasheed saying this is a fake case. Granted the investigation is not over, however I think if the investigation confirms that is topi drama, their will be no coverage.

On same note Sheik Rasheed will not be taken seriously either. In bus incident involving Chinese engineers, he said initially it was an accident and then without the investigation even started, he started blurting india Afghanistan foreign forces .. on what basis he makes those statements. He needs to be credible first before his statements can be considered the same

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

On same note Sheik Rasheed will not be taken seriously either. In bus incident involving Chinese engineers, he said initially it was an accident and then without the investigation even started, he started blurting india Afghanistan foreign forces .. on what basis he makes those statements. He needs to be credible first before his statements can be considered the same

Yea Sheikh Rasheed is not someone who deserves much respect. What he should have done was not say anything at all until the investigation was complete, and then release the evidence.

Their is a reason that Imran Khan said before he wont hire him as even a chaprasi.

 

[ahsan17]

How should Pakistan have dealt with this in your opinion?

That is something Pakistani state has to figure out, as they are getting the big bucks. It's like how India figured out how to use FATF against Pakistan. No one in Indian public probably came with that idea, it was someone in their state.

 

[MenInG]

Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi said Wednesday the investigation into the Afghan ambassador's alleged abduction was near completion, days after Afghanistan pulled out its senior diplomats from Islamabad.

The foreign minister, addressing a press conference after Eid ul Adha prayers in Multan, said the FIR was launched in line with the ambassador's daughter's instructions.

FM Qureshi said statements of all taxi drivers, whose services the daughter of the ambassador had availed, were recorded.

The foreign minister said 700 hours of CCTV footage was reviewed, and 250 people were interrogated, however, he said the cooperation of the Afghan ambassador and his daughter was needed to wrap up the investigation.

Once the investigation is concluded, the report will be shared with Afganistan's government, he said.

'India is facing defeat at every forum'

FM Qureshi said Pakistan wants peace and stability in Afghanistan, and the entire Afghan leadership should join efforts for sustainable peace in the country.

"The Afghan peace process has entered into the crucial phase," he said, adding: "India is playing the role of spoiler in the process."

The foreign minister highlighted that the BJP-led government, not only targeted Prime Minister Imran Khan's number but it also targeted Indian ministers and Opposition lawmaker through Israeli NSO Group's spyware, Pegasus.

"However, India is facing defeat at every forum," he said.

The foreign minister said that India is committing brutalities and human rights violations in Occupied Jammu and Kashmir and urged the world to take notice.

FM Qureshi said the United States had acknowledged the role of Pakistan in combating terrorism, the Afghan peace process, and the implementation of the Financial Action Task Force's recommendations.

GEO

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

That is something Pakistani state has to figure out, as they are getting the big bucks. It's like how India figured out how to use FATF against Pakistan. No one in Indian public probably came with that idea, it was someone in their state.

India didn't figure out how to use FATF, it was simply that their goals aligned with the western ones ( for now) and they took advantage. Pakistan doesn't have the same leverage as they are neither ideologically aligned with the west, nor have natural resources to offer.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

This was obvious straight away to anybody with a few brain cells.

 

[MenInG]

Hold the press....

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India Thursday described the abduction of the Afghan ambassador’s daughter in Islamabad as a “very shocking” incident and said Pakistan is “stooping to a new low” with its denial of the victim’s account.

Silsila Alikhil, the 26-year-old daughter of Afghan Ambassador Najibullah Alikhil, was abducted, held and assaulted by unidentified men in Islamabad last Friday.

Pakistan’s Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid has claimed that Alikhil was not abducted while suggesting a “conspiracy” linked to India.

“This is a very shocking incident,” Ministry of External Affairs spokesperson Arindam Bagchi said at a media briefing, while pointing out that it is a matter involving Afghanistan and Pakistan.

“However, since the Pakistan Interior Minister has dragged India into it, I would only like to say that even by their standards, Pakistan’s denial of the victim’s account is stooping to a new low,” he said.

Two days after the incident, the Afghan government recalled its ambassador and senior diplomats from Islamabad over concerns relating to their safety and security.

Bagchi said: “As regards the security of the Indian High Commission and our personnel in Pakistan, I would not like to get into specific security-related measures.”

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/afghan-envoy-daughter-pakistan-kidnapping-7417509/

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Thursday denounced "gratuitous and unwarranted" remarks by the Indian Ministry of External Affairs regarding the recent incident involving the daughter of the Ambassador of Afghanistan to Pakistan, Geo News reported.

Responding to media queries regarding remarks made by the spokesperson of the Indian Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) about the incident, Foreign Office spokesperson Zahid Hafeez denounced the remarks by the Indian ministry while noting that, "India has no locus standi, whatsoever, on the matter.”

India’s malicious smear campaign against Pakistan is well-known and independent organizations including EU DisinfoLab have established India’s credentials as a purveyor of anti-Pakistan propaganda globally, he added.

The spokesperson said that even in the wake of the reported incident involving the daughter of the Afghan Ambassador, Indian propaganda machinery against Pakistan was active and fake pictures of the ambassador’s daughter were being circulated by Indian Twitter handles and websites. It is unfortunate that India used such an incident to peddle false narrative against Pakistan, his statement read.

He maintained that the only domains where India has set standards are state-sponsored terrorism, illegal occupation, disregard of UN resolutions, mass murders and repression against women in the territory under its illegal occupation, political violence against minorities, and running organized fake propaganda networks around the world; and is, therefore, in no position to pontificate on ‘standards’ for other countries.

While calling upon India to refrain from its smear propaganda campaign against Pakistan, he said, “We remain determined to pushback against unabated Indian machinations and also to draw attention towards India’s role of a spoiler in the ongoing Afghan peace process.

GEO

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistani minister can drag India's name, but Indian external affairs ministry cannot respond to it. Wah re wah!!!

And Pakistan thinks quoting a NGO like EU disinfo lab makes their claims credible?

 

[cric_man]

Pakistani minister can drag India's name, but Indian external affairs ministry cannot respond to it. Wah re wah!!!

And Pakistan thinks quoting a NGO like EU disinfo lab makes their claims credible?

"India Thursday described the abduction of the Afghan ambassador’s daughter in Islamabad as a “very shocking” incident and said Pakistan is “stooping to a new low” with its denial of the victim’s account."

So Indian MEA responds with the above, When it has been proven with CCTV footage as well as glaring gaps/omissions in the girl's story.

Like you said wah re wah......

 

[cric_man]

"India Thursday described the abduction of the Afghan ambassador’s daughter in Islamabad as a “very shocking” incident and said Pakistan is “stooping to a new low” with its denial of the victim’s account."

So Indian MEA responds with the above, When it has been proven with CCTV footage as well as glaring gaps/omissions in the girl's story.

Like you said wah re wah......

Further, Indian MEA could have denied / rebuffed any assertions sheikho made re: Indian involvement.
As far as EU Disinfo is concerned, that was NSA Moeed Pirzada highlighting correctly verified Twitter accounts with IPs from India circulating false information on social media regarding the case such as a fake photo of the girl and disseminating propaganda / falsehoods that the girl was tortured.

yup wah re wah wah wah

 

[cricketjoshila]

"India Thursday described the abduction of the Afghan ambassador’s daughter in Islamabad as a “very shocking” incident and said Pakistan is “stooping to a new low” with its denial of the victim’s account."

So Indian MEA responds with the above, When it has been proven with CCTV footage as well as glaring gaps/omissions in the girl's story.

Like you said wah re wah......

First of all, was India anyway related to this incident? No. Why was India named?

MEA response is the one pakistan deserved for dragging India unnecessarily into an incident, it had nothing to do with.

Afghan Ambassador's daughter was kidnapped. The medical report mentions injuries.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Further, Indian MEA could have denied / rebuffed any assertions sheikho made re: Indian involvement.
As far as EU Disinfo is concerned, that was NSA Moeed Pirzada highlighting correctly verified Twitter accounts with IPs from India circulating false information on social media regarding the case such as a fake photo of the girl and disseminating propaganda / falsehoods that the girl was tortured.

yup wah re wah wah wah

Pakistani ministers like rasheed got the answer they deserved. I am glad that Indian government has refused to engage with such an establishment.

How did pirzada get IPs of accounts in India?

The girl said she was kidnapped and tortured. That's her statement.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

First of all, was India anyway related to this incident? No. Why was India named?

MEA response is the one pakistan deserved for dragging India unnecessarily into an incident, it had nothing to do with.

Afghan Ambassador's daughter was kidnapped. The medical report mentions injuries.

How did Pakistan drag India into this matter?

 

[ahsan17]

First of all, was India anyway related to this incident? No. Why was India named?

MEA response is the one pakistan deserved for dragging India unnecessarily into an incident, it had nothing to do with.

Afghan Ambassador's daughter was kidnapped. The medical report mentions injuries.

India was related because Indians were spreading fake news about Pakistan as usual. And Indian government was manufacturing their own alternate reality, just like you are. You mean to say CCTV footage has no value in determining what happened?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Pakistani ministers like rasheed got the answer they deserved. I am glad that Indian government has refused to engage with such an establishment.

How did pirzada get IPs of accounts in India?

The girl said she was kidnapped and tortured. That's her statement.

Not sure if decetives such as Kojal or Columbo would agree.

Statement has proven to be false. An injury doesnt prove kidnapping lol. Pak have given all the information clear with evidence.

She lied to get to Germany it seems but Indians have jumped on this , not because they care for her but a happiness of making Pakistan look bad, but as usual failed. Please have some patientce before jumping to conlucions.

 

[cricketjoshila]

How did Pakistan drag India into this matter?

Look up the pak minister's statement.

 

[cricketjoshila]

India was related because Indians were spreading fake news about Pakistan as usual. And Indian government was manufacturing their own alternate reality, just like you are. You mean to say CCTV footage has no value in determining what happened?

What fake news? The victim gave a statement and that statement was published by world wide media, including Indian media.

Pakistan brings in India to deflect attention from its failures.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Not sure if decetives such as Kojal or Columbo would agree.

Statement has proven to be false. An injury doesnt prove kidnapping lol. Pak have given all the information clear with evidence.

She lied to get to Germany it seems but Indians have jumped on this , not because they care for her but a happiness of making Pakistan look bad, but as usual failed. Please have some patientce before jumping to conlucions.

Considering the fact that she has a diplomatic passport, going anywhere wouldn't be an issue.

 

[ahsan17]

What fake news? The victim gave a statement and that statement was published by world wide media, including Indian media.

Pakistan brings in India to deflect attention from its failures.

We are not talking about Indian media though, but their MEA. He was claiming the girl was kidnapped.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Considering the fact that she has a diplomatic passport, going anywhere wouldn't be an issue.

Not for permanent stay. The passport can go anytime when/if the Taliban take control.

 

[cricketjoshila]

We are not talking about Indian media though, but their MEA. He was claiming the girl was kidnapped.

He said what the Afghan government have said. Indian MEA wouldn't have had to make a statement if pakistan hadn't dragged India's name into a totally unconnected issue.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Not for permanent stay. The passport can go anytime when/if the Taliban take control.

Lol. If Taliban take control, if they are recognised.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Lol. If Taliban take control, if they are recognised.

lol they dont need to be recognised. If the puppet regime is no longer in power, they cannot keep diplomatic passports.

 

[ahsan17]

He said what the Afghan government have said. Indian MEA wouldn't have had to make a statement if pakistan hadn't dragged India's name into a totally unconnected issue.

Well, either way, claiming that she was kidnapped is fake news/alternative news.

 

[Bewal Express]

What's happened to those guys that said she was kidnapped, [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] etc. Are you too embarrassed to show your faces.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

What's happened to those guys that said she was kidnapped, [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] etc. Are you too embarrassed to show your faces.

Don't worry they are sharpening the knives and preparing the tissues for their next episode of wrist slitting and crocodile tears

 

[Bewal Express]

Don't worry they are sharpening the knives and preparing the tissues for their next episode of wrist slitting and crocodile tears

It really is funny that they get their backsides kicked everytime. As I said to these guys PK had nothing to gain with this drama and so it proved.

 

[ahmedzee]

All drama by the Afghan govt. pakistan has video proof of this girl in Rawalpindi and other places. Can mod change the title of this thread and put in “fake kidnapping”.

 

[cricketjoshila]

lol they dont need to be recognised. If the puppet regime is no longer in power, they cannot keep diplomatic passports.

Lol. As long as they are recognised, they will have their diplomatic passport.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Well, either way, claiming that she was kidnapped is fake news/alternative news.

Thats the official statement of the Afghan government.

 

[ahsan17]

Thats the official statement of the Afghan government.

Doesn't make it true, nor does India have to repeat the statement.

 

[Ryw]

What fake news? The victim gave a statement and that statement was published by world wide media, including Indian media.

Pakistan brings in India to deflect attention from its failures.

Victim can lie,you can lie, media can lie but CCTV cameras cant lie

 

[KingKhanWC]

Lol. As long as they are recognised, they will have their diplomatic passport.

lol. sure a government not in power, sat abroad will be recognised and diplomatic meetings will take place with them. I think should get with reality.

 

[Giannis]

I wonder if she would swear on a Qur'an and lie?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Look up the pak minister's statement.

You claimed that Pakistan dragged India into this matter and I asked you for some evidence and you want me to look up something you are declaring?

 

[cricketjoshila]

lol. sure a government not in power, sat abroad will be recognised and diplomatic meetings will take place with them. I think should get with reality.

Recognition isn't in the hand of pakistan or taliban.who is in power, we will see.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You claimed that Pakistan dragged India into this matter and I asked you for some evidence and you want me to look up something you are declaring?

The statement is posted in this very thread.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The statement is posted in this very thread.

That is not proof that Pakistan dragged India into this matter.

 

[Bewal Express]

Thats the official statement of the Afghan government.

But you started the thread hoping for some cheap points and are now looking for ways out of this humiliation.

 

[cricketjoshila]

But you started the thread hoping for some cheap points and are now looking for ways out of this humiliation.

What humiliation? The Afghan government has withdrawn their senior diplomats from Islamabad.

Pakistan may be denying all this to save its face. Who knows!

Humiliation. Lol.

 

[cricketjoshila]

That is not proof that Pakistan dragged India into this matter.

He accused India of playing up the kidnapping of the ambassador's daughter to malign Pakistan.

"We will present the entire, true picture in front of the world," he said, adding that Pakistan's importance in the region has shot up due to PM Khan's popular foreign policy moves.

"After PM Khan's 'absolutely not' stance received immense popularity both in Pakistan and abroad, India is not letting go of any opportunity to increase its propaganda against Pakistan," he

https://www.geo.tv/latest/360639-af...dnapping-sheikh-rasheed-holds-news-conference

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

He accused India of playing up the kidnapping of the ambassador's daughter to malign Pakistan.

"We will present the entire, true picture in front of the world," he said, adding that Pakistan's importance in the region has shot up due to PM Khan's popular foreign policy moves.

"After PM Khan's 'absolutely not' stance received immense popularity both in Pakistan and abroad, India is not letting go of any opportunity to increase its propaganda against Pakistan," he

https://www.geo.tv/latest/360639-af...dnapping-sheikh-rasheed-holds-news-conference

Isn't it true that India played up the "kidnapping" to malign Pakistan?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Isn't it true that India played up the "kidnapping" to malign Pakistan?

India played up? Afghan government put out an official statement and world media reported it. Even the op is from a non indian outlet.

Imran and his government blame India everytime they have any problems.

What is this absolutely not stance?

 

[Bewal Express]

What humiliation? The Afghan government has withdrawn their senior diplomats from Islamabad.

Pakistan may be denying all this to save its face. Who knows!

Humiliation. Lol.

And they reason they withdrew them was because they and you Hindutuva got rumbled and humiliated. We couldn't less of the powerless Afghan govt withdrew the ambassador. It seems that you are getting desperate these days after the $3bn was put to waste by the brilliance of the ISI.

 

[Bewal Express]

India played up? Afghan government put out an official statement and world media reported it. Even the op is from a non indian outlet.

Imran and his government blame India everytime they have any problems.

What is this absolutely not stance?

But it was you that started the thread here hoping for cheap points. Are you ready to apologise

 

[Saj]

Who is the accused?

Someone influential?

 

[Bewal Express]

Who is the accused?

Someone influential?

Basically the Afghan Ambassadors daughter was upto rumpy pumpy with her boyfriend, somehow she claimed she was kidnapped, the Hindutuva and [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] got very excited to further their anti PK agenda. It was proved within a few hours that she lied, all the guys that got excited quickly disappeared as per form.

 

[cricketjoshila]

But it was you that started the thread here hoping for cheap points. Are you ready to apologise

Apologise for what? Ask the Guardian to apologise since its their link in the OP.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Basically the Afghan Ambassadors daughter was upto rumpy pumpy with her boyfriend, somehow she claimed she was kidnapped, the Hindutuva and [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] got very excited to further their anti PK agenda. It was proved within a few hours that she lied, all the guys that got excited quickly disappeared as per form.

I can post links from most of the leading world media outlets who reported the news.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I can post links from most of the leading world media outlets who reported the news.

The news has been updated since then and this nonsense story has been put to bed. The neighbourly propaganda machine can switch off now and move to something else.

 

[Bewal Express]

I can post links from most of the leading world media outlets who reported the news.

Which was fake. Surely, you know how it works. The Inds pick up the fake news( Srivastava group), pass it on to other media outlets, then report the fact that its been reported. Its an age old tactic.

 

[IMMY69]

I can post links from most of the leading world media outlets who reported the news.

Just like the media reports on the people dying outside hospitals in Delhi were fake?
People being turned away from hospitals were fake?
Country running out of ventilators and the reports of the huge numbers of deaths were fake?

The difference between the covid Indian Disaster and this incident is that the Pakistan Government has proved it was fake and the western press have updated their news.

The problem with you is that you defend anything that is RSS. Your own government described the abduction of the Afghan ambassador’s daughter in Islamabad as a “very shocking” incident and said Pakistan is “stooping to a new low” with its denial of the victim’s account.

Was this not jumping the gun?

 

[ahsan17]

I can post links from most of the leading world media outlets who reported the news.

Like I have said many times:

Propaganda when against India.
Whole world is against Pakistan when against Pakistan.

Especially when it comes to the same 'leading media outlets'.

 

[MenInG]

Imran Khan speaking to the press:

'Discrepancy in what Afghan envoy's daughter says and what evidence shows'

Commenting on the recent incident involving the Afghan ambassador's daughter in Islamabad, the premier said that authorities had charted out the exact path taken by Silsila Alikhil. He said that taxi drivers were traced and interrogated.

"Unfortunately, what the ambassador's daughter is saying and what the cameras show do not add up. She says she was put in a taxi, taken away and beaten up. But there is a picture of that taxi and she is sitting there and she is fine."

He said that the police had pulled all the records and there was a "discrepancy". He said that since the ambassador's daughter had gone back to Afghanistan there was no way to confirm what had happened.

Dawn

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Further humiliation for liars.

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Imran Khan on Thursday said that the statement of the Afghan ambassador’s daughter about her alleged abduction in Islamabad and the video footage of the incident do not match.

PM Imran said this while talking to a delegation of the Pak-Afghan Youth Forum, who called on him in Islamabad today.

Responding to a question about the recent incident involving the Afghan ambassador's daughter in Islamabad, the prime minister said the CCTV footage of the time of the incident showed Silsila Alikhil, the daughter of the Afghan envoy, was traveling in a taxi without any fear but she claimed that unidentified abductors tortured her before bundling her into a taxi.

He maintained that they had traced and interrogated the taxi driver and obtained the videos from the Safe City cameras, adding that there were discrepancies in her statement and the probe report.

The prime minister said, unfortunately, the ambassador's daughter had left the country and there was no way to confirm what had happened.

An Afghanistan probe team will soon visit Islamabad, the prime minister said, adding that they will share the videos and the investigation report with them. He maintained that the Afghanistan team could question the ambassador’s daughter on the basis of the videos and the investigation done by the Pakistani police.

Earlier, on July 18, Minister for Interior Shaikh Rasheed Ahmed had said that the incident involving the daughter of the ambassador of Afghanistan to Pakistan "was not an abduction" at all.

"This is an international conspiracy. An agenda of RAW," he had said, while speaking to Geo News on programme Naya Pakistan.

He had been referring to the Indian intelligence agency.

Reports of the ambassador's daughter being "abducted" and "tortured" surfaced on Saturday, with a statement by the Afghan foreign ministry saying that the girl was "abducted for several hours" on Friday.

The Foreign Office had issued a statement in response saying that a thorough probe has been launched and law enforcement agencies "are trying to trace and apprehend the culprits to be brought to justice".

In the meanwhile, the security for the ambassador and his family was "beefed up", according to the statement.

Prime Minister Imran Khan had instructed the interior minister to get to the bottom of the matter within 48 hours.

Later, the minister shared an update into the probe, saying that the woman used the services of two taxis, and that the driver of one had been contacted, while the other will be traced after a written statement was provided by the family.

The minister, while speaking to Geo News, had said that the daughter had first claimed that her phone was stolen, "and later handed her phone over but with the data deleted".

He had said that the CCTV footage of the time of the incident had been reviewed and it was found that there were not two, but three taxis that she had used.

GEO

 

[ahmedzee]

So where are those propaganda loving posters who starting this thread just on a basis of allegation. Are those posters going to ask Afghan govt for their proof, because Pakistan has already provided one showing how big liars these afghans are.

 

[Local.Dada]

Just like the media reports on the people dying outside hospitals in Delhi were fake?
People being turned away from hospitals were fake?
Country running out of ventilators and the reports of the huge numbers of deaths were fake?

The difference between the covid Indian Disaster and this incident is that the Pakistan Government has proved it was fake and the western press have updated their news.

Are you seriously comparing a pandemic situation that has rocked the entire world in various gruesome ways one time or the other to a diplomatic situation.

Also is your problem with indias covid third wave a concern or are you using this as some kind of a measuring contest?

As a Pakistani origin guy shouldn’t you be more concerned about what is happening in Pakistan with the covid situation? No country including USA,UK,China,India,Pak are out of the hole yet.

Yeah india had a brutal 3rd wave, some countries had it worse in the first wave, some countries are seeing an uptick now.

I saw a couple of other Brit origin pakistanis use this as some kind of a diss too. As I said sometimes your hate for India overshadows your actual concern for Pakistan from the look of it.

Also what proof are we talking about? A country (not its people but the govt/army/intelligence) that mooched off a few billions from USA to find a guy when they had hid him in his backyard all along. Yeah very credible evidence right there.

 

[Local.Dada]

So where are those propaganda loving posters who starting this thread just on a basis of allegation. Are those posters going to ask Afghan govt for their proof, because Pakistan has already provided one showing how big liars these afghans are.

I would say the proof from Afghanistan has the same level of credibility that Pakistan provides. It’s whose narrative gets a bigger play in the mainstream. I am not sure if Pakistan government has that kind of credibility like it or not. There is a reason why China sends its own investigation team after the recent tragedy when Pakistan was saying that there was a malfunction/ accident or Pakistan airplanes get held in friendly countries like Malaysia for non payment and not released on goodwill.

You need to come out of the bubble my friend. This may sound bitter but Pakistan governments especially regardless of who is in power don’t have any credibility. Now even a sensitive topic like Kashmir etc doesn’t get much mileage from friendly counties including China etc for the same reason because no one wants to get into a mess. Modi, genocide,RSS killing muslims might become headlines in Pakistan but they probably at best make it to some obscure corner of the news paper regardless of all the lobbying. Truth has 3 sides your version, my version and actual truth but as they say jiski laathi,uski bhaains and when it comes to lobbying India is far far ahead and Pakistan has itself to blame for losing some credibility. Till then the Afghan version will always be the truth.

 

[IMMY69]

Are you seriously comparing a pandemic situation that has rocked the entire world in various gruesome ways one time or the other to a diplomatic situation.

Also is your problem with indias covid third wave a concern or are you using this as some kind of a measuring contest?

As a Pakistani origin guy shouldn’t you be more concerned about what is happening in Pakistan with the covid situation? No country including USA,UK,China,India,Pak are out of the hole yet.

Yeah india had a brutal 3rd wave, some countries had it worse in the first wave, some countries are seeing an uptick now.

I saw a couple of other Brit origin pakistanis use this as some kind of a diss too. As I said sometimes your hate for India overshadows your actual concern for Pakistan from the look of it.

Also what proof are we talking about? A country (not its people but the govt/army/intelligence) that mooched off a few billions from USA to find a guy when they had hid him in his backyard all along. Yeah very credible evidence right there.

Context
My post was for someone else and it has context.
Context

 

[Local.Dada]

Context
My post was for someone else and it has context.
Context

There is only one context. India had a brutal 3rd wave and some parts of it was exaggerated and some part was true because there is always an agenda some where or the other and there is a fair middle ground.

This is more of a criminal/law and order issue. There are 2 versions the accused version and the accuser version. There is no middle ground. A crime happened or it didn’t. It’s binary.

The accuser’s version gets more credence in the mainstream media because of the accused’s lack of credibility. That’s the only context

I am being fair using the word accuses regardless of what i believe personally

 

[IMMY69]

There is only one context. India had a brutal 3rd wave and some parts of it was exaggerated and some part was true because there is always an agenda some where or the other and there is a fair middle ground.

This is more of a criminal/law and order issue. There are 2 versions the accused version and the accuser version. There is no middle ground. A crime happened or it didn’t. It’s binary.

The accuser’s version gets more credence in the mainstream media because of the accused’s lack of credibility. That’s the only context

I am being fair using the word accuses regardless of what i believe personally

Sorry explain a bit more for me.
Go deeper

 

[cric_man]

I would say the proof from Afghanistan has the same level of credibility that Pakistan provides. It’s whose narrative gets a bigger play in the mainstream. I am not sure if Pakistan government has that kind of credibility like it or not. There is a reason why China sends its own investigation team after the recent tragedy when Pakistan was saying that there was a malfunction/ accident or Pakistan airplanes get held in friendly countries like Malaysia for non payment and not released on goodwill.

You need to come out of the bubble my friend. This may sound bitter but Pakistan governments especially regardless of who is in power don’t have any credibility. Now even a sensitive topic like Kashmir etc doesn’t get much mileage from friendly counties including China etc for the same reason because no one wants to get into a mess. Modi, genocide,RSS killing muslims might become headlines in Pakistan but they probably at best make it to some obscure corner of the news paper regardless of all the lobbying. Truth has 3 sides your version, my version and actual truth but as they say jiski laathi,uski bhaains and when it comes to lobbying India is far far ahead and Pakistan has itself to blame for losing some credibility. Till then the Afghan version will always be the truth.

What a bunch of drivel. Gov. of Pakistan provided CCTV footage, and cellphone tower pings from the girls phones contradicting her story. Keep believing the Afghan version.