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David Warner vs Sanath Jayasuriya

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Though they played their cricket in different eras and against different set of bowlers but they have the same philosophy. It would still be an interesting comparison of two left handed power hitting openers.

Both like to go hard at the new ball bowlers irrespective of the format and blaze all the way.

Who would you love to have in your team ?

Warner is invincible on flat decks with true bounce. He has a weakness against spin. Jaya on the other hand was good against spinners and used his feet very well.

Your thoughts?
 
I haven't watch Jaya play too much but from looking at the highlights from the matches he played, he was different type of batsmen from his era. I would go with him.
 
I haven't watch Jaya play too much but from looking at the highlights from the matches he played, he was different type of batsmen from his era. I would go with him.

Warner has the advantage of using an engineered bat specially designed for big hits and powerful stroke play.

Jaya was more frosty and classical.
 
Jayasuriya by miles. He was a sensational player. Okay bowler too.
 
Jaya isn't ahead by miles.

Tests, Jaya was good not great.Warner is definitely at par. He avgs 47-48 and even though he is a HTB, he will end up higher to Sanath in this format.

Odis, Jaya was low tier ATG. Warner has more to do, particularly, in ICC tournaments, where he has failed badly in 15 WC but he might do well in coming tournaments.Warner is the Sehwag of odis.

Sanath could bowl too and hence as a cricketer he can be ahead.But in tests, Warner will definitely end up as superior player.
 
Sanath used to put fear into bowlers hearts. Technically better as well. Those cuts that he used to slice for sixes still give me some great memories. Certified legend!
 
Jayasurya revolutionised the ODI game along with kaluwitharna.. Warner may eventually be a better batsman but he can never reach the impact what Sanath had..

Sanath is in a unique list of people who actually revolutionalised cricket:

1. Viv Richards
2. Sanath/kalu
3. Saqlain
4. Martin Crowe (using spinner Patel guy at start)
5. Douglas Maurillier
6. Gilly

The above are people whose impact is something which can't be measured and all the players after them owe their success to these guys for bringing something revolutionary in cricket..

Warner is just another explosive opener like many before him he hasn't done anything new..
 
Jayasurya revolutionised the ODI game along with kaluwitharna.. Warner may eventually be a better batsman but he can never reach the impact what Sanath had..

Sanath is in a unique list of people who actually revolutionalised cricket:

1. Viv Richards
2. Sanath/kalu
3. Saqlain
4. Martin Crowe (using spinner Patel guy at start)
5. Douglas Maurillier
6. Gilly

The above are people whose impact is something which can't be measured and all the players after them owe their success to these guys for bringing something revolutionary in cricket..

Warner is just another explosive opener like many before him he hasn't done anything new..

Good points. Jaayysuuuuuria revolutionized odi game.
 
Jayasurya revolutionised the ODI game along with kaluwitharna.. Warner may eventually be a better batsman but he can never reach the impact what Sanath had..

Sanath is in a unique list of people who actually revolutionalised cricket:

1. Viv Richards
2. Sanath/kalu
3. Saqlain
4. Martin Crowe (using spinner Patel guy at start)
5. Douglas Maurillier
6. Gilly

The above are people whose impact is something which can't be measured and all the players after them owe their success to these guys for bringing something revolutionary in cricket..

Warner is just another explosive opener like many before him he hasn't done anything new..

Add Wasim and Qadir to your list. They revived the art of left-arm fast bowling and leg-spin respectively.
 
Warner is the biggest FTB in Test history, but he is a champion batsman in Limited Overs. I would go with Sanath in Tests without a second thought, but I do believe that Warner will overtake Sanath in ODIs, even though the latter is a serious contender for the all-time ODI XI.
 
Jaya isn't ahead by miles.

Tests, Jaya was good not great.Warner is definitely at par. He avgs 47-48 and even though he is a HTB, he will end up higher to Sanath in this format.

Odis, Jaya was low tier ATG. Warner has more to do, particularly, in ICC tournaments, where he has failed badly in 15 WC but he might do well in coming tournaments.Warner is the Sehwag of odis.

Sanath could bowl too and hence as a cricketer he can be ahead.But in tests, Warner will definitely end up as superior player.

I will take Sanath's average of 40 in tests over Warner's 47 considering the decline in quality of fast bowling, flat tracks, and Warner's HT bullying.
 
Warner is the biggest FTB in Test history, but he is a champion batsman in Limited Overs. I would go with Sanath in Tests without a second thought, but I do believe that Warner will overtake Sanath in ODIs, even though the latter is a serious contender for the all-time ODI XI.
If someone cannot play the moving ball, they cannot be rated as a Champion batsman. Take Dhoni for example, while he's a Test FTB. He's scored a briliant 100 vs moving ball in ODIs (that 100 vs rampant Junaid Khan on a seamers paradise). I can't remember a single Warner inning like that, I'd change my mind if you can correct me and recall an inning as such.

Warner is just another batsman making merry of flat pitches and favourable rules.
 
I will take Sanath's average of 40 in tests over Warner's 47 considering the decline in quality of fast bowling, flat tracks, and Warner's HT bullying.

Jayasuriya's record in tests is very poor outside Asia and has mostly struggled against most of the quality attacks present in that era. He has bullied the weaker Indian bowling attack on some ridiculously flat pattas like that 340 he got in 97 tour.So, I am not too sure of this quality attack and flat pattas logic.

An AVG of 40 doesn't speak much for a test bat.I agree Warner is arguably the biggest FTB one has seen but smashing hundreds for fun at a freak SR on home flat pitches isn't a small deal. He has done brilliant in SA too winning his team a series there.He has got time to perform and do well in other countries too although he hasn't shown much improvement in his game yet.He can surpass Sanath in tests IMO. The bar isn't all that high.

Jayasuriya himself was a better OdI player than a test player he was. His impact in OdI format was unbelievable and revolutionised OdI top order batting by his aggressive attack.His contribution in WC was remarkable too. It would be hard for Warner to surpass Jaya in ODIs unless he delivers big in WCs and other big tournaments.
 
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Jayasuriya's record in tests is very poor outside Asia and has mostly struggled against most of the quality attacks present in that era. He has bullied the weaker Indian bowling attack on some ridiculously flat pattas like that 340 he got in 97 tour.So, I am not too sure of this quality attack and flat pattas logic.

An AVG of 40 doesn't speak much for a test bat.I agree Warner is arguably the biggest FTB one has seen but smashing hundreds for fun at a freak SR on home flat pitches isn't a small deal. He has done brilliant in SA too winning his team a series there.He has got time to perform and do well in other countries too although he hasn't shown much improvement in his game yet.He can surpass Sanath in tests IMO. The bar isn't all that high.

Jayasuriya himself was a better OdI player than a test player he was. His impact in OdI format was unbelievable and revolutionised OdI top order batting by his aggressive attack.His contribution in WC was remarkable too. It would be hard for Warner to surpass Jaya in ODIs unless he delivers big in WCs and other big tournaments.

Sanath averaged almost 60 against Pakistan in Pakistan (Wasim and Waqar) and 44 vs WI in WI (Ambrose, Walsh, and Bishop). Both excellent bowling attacks of his time.
 
Jayasuriya should be compared with Perera.


Once he hammered our bowlers as if they are bowlers from Club Cricket. It was a 180 odd sensational brutal innings in the mould of Chris Gayle.
 
Sanath averaged almost 60 against Pakistan in Pakistan (Wasim and Waqar) and 44 vs WI in WI (Ambrose, Walsh, and Bishop). Both excellent bowling attacks of his time.

So??Lara avgs 30 odd in India. Does that take away the fact that he was one of the best vs spin in business?

Sanath scored a 250 odd in 2004 series vs Pak vs attack of Akhtar, Sami and co.There was no Wasim/Waqar at that time.

He has zero hundreds in WI.An avg of 43-44 in WI is okay to me but then he has failed everywhere else outside Asia.

The point is that Sanath wasn't a great test cricketer and an inferior one as compared to what he was in odis. If someone like Warner surpasses him, that doesn't mean much.
 
If someone cannot play the moving ball, they cannot be rated as a Champion batsman. Take Dhoni for example, while he's a Test FTB. He's scored a briliant 100 vs moving ball in ODIs (that 100 vs rampant Junaid Khan on a seamers paradise). I can't remember a single Warner inning like that, I'd change my mind if you can correct me and recall an inning as such.

Warner is just another batsman making merry of flat pitches and favourable rules.

He hasn't, which is why I believe he is the biggest FTB ever. However, LOI pitches are mostly flat everywhere and he is a monster on those wickets.
 
in LOIs Sana but in Tests don't think there's much in it maybe Warner just ahead there.
 
Jayasuriya is an ATG and one of the very best.

Revolutionized the opening role back in the 90's.

Warner is very good and needs to keep performing at his level to become one of the greats.
 
Jayasuriya is an ATG and pioneer of ODI batting (especially for openers). He had 90+ strike rate in an era where even other greats struggled to score at 70. Warner is extremely lucky to have trunk sized bat and flat pitches where bowlers get molested every match. As much as I like Warner, his impact in world cricket is nowhere near Jayasuriya's.
 
Warner is the biggest FTB in Test history, but he is a champion batsman in Limited Overs. I would go with Sanath in Tests without a second thought, but I do believe that Warner will overtake Sanath in ODIs, even though the latter is a serious contender for the all-time ODI XI.

I dont think Sanath was any great in tests either.An avg of 40 isn't much to speak of and then his record wasnt balanced either.In odis, he is an ATG cricketer and hard to get surpassed. Way better than what his stats suggest and his impact with both bat and bowl was unforgettable.
 
If someone cannot play the moving ball, they cannot be rated as a Champion batsman. Take Dhoni for example, while he's a Test FTB. He's scored a briliant 100 vs moving ball in ODIs (that 100 vs rampant Junaid Khan on a seamers paradise). I can't remember a single Warner inning like that, I'd change my mind if you can correct me and recall an inning as such.

Warner is just another batsman making merry of flat pitches and favourable rules.

Five fifties in England opening against the Dukes ball including scores of 83, 77, 85, managing a total of 418 runs in the series. The last one being the best if you had watched how well he left the ball swinging and seaming ball for 30 odd overs. No flat track bully can do that.
 
Warner is Australian version of Sehwag.. No other way of describing him.
 
Jayasuriya was great but Warner is better.

Warner might be better in test but noways in ODIs. Current ODI batsmen have disgustingly bloated average and strike rate since bowlers are no better than bowling machines. Jayasuriya is revolutionary player, Warner is a glorified FTB with a tree trunk who bats on roads
 
I would pick Jayasuriya out of these two but both had some glaring weaknesses that people like to gloss over. Jayasuriya was terribly inconsistent and borderline mediocre against the big teams while Warner cannot play the moving ball at all and would get destroyed in any other era.

Add Wasim and Qadir to your list. They revived the art of left-arm fast bowling and leg-spin respectively.

Imran and Nawaz were pretty revolutionary considering they invented reverse-swing. However, being a revolutionary doesn't automatically make you a great player.
 
Warner might be better in test but noways in ODIs. Current ODI batsmen have disgustingly bloated average and strike rate since bowlers are no better than bowling machines. Jayasuriya is revolutionary player, Warner is a glorified FTB with a tree trunk who bats on roads

Read post #28. When you can answer that, come back to me.
 
Warner has a match winning hundred on a seaming Hobart wicket in the 2nd innings. He scored 418 runs in his last tour of England and 590 in SA. The two most difficult places to open because of prodigious lateral movement but apparently he can't play the moving ball. All those runs were scored by fluke. I get it, totally.
 
I would love to have Jaya as he played against better attack all time greats "wasim, waqar, warne, mcgra, pollock and so on"
 
Warner is more reliable but Jayasuriya was definitely more dangerous. Not to mention Jayasuriya also like most 90s batsmen faced a much higher quality of bowling.
 
Please don't compare master blaster Sana with FTB Warner.. Sanath revolutionized cricket forever. When he hit those massive sixes there were no powerplay overs.. and he scored all around the world.. Sana is the reason we have t20 format now. Sana started it, then Afridy carry on and finished it..
 
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Add Wasim and Qadir to your list. They revived the art of left-arm fast bowling and leg-spin respectively.



I am not sure about Qadir he was before my time, I guess you can add Wasim and the other ones who invented reverse swing.. However with 2 new balls now reverse swing in ODI is kinda dead, shame really..
 
He hasn't, which is why I believe he is the biggest FTB ever. However, LOI pitches are mostly flat everywhere and he is a monster on those wickets.
But there are wickets which are seamers paradises and odd spinning wickets. I recall a 7/33 from Tim Southee (beautiful display of Swing) not too long ago on which Warner would've gotten obliterated. That too in a WC. 'Flat everwhere' pitches is too weak an argument.
Five fifties in England opening against the Dukes ball including scores of 83, 77, 85, managing a total of 418 runs in the series. The last one being the best if you had watched how well he left the ball swinging and seaming ball for 30 odd overs. No flat track bully can do that.
LOL what bs. He averages 28 @76sr in England ODIs....He will definitely however score on the current disastrous wickets we have here now.
 
sanath was way destructive for his era. David is not as destructive considering all team have hitters nowadays.
Sehwag was more descrutive than Warner .
 
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