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December 8, 2007 l It’s been 11 years already since the last India-Pakistan Test match

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How sad!

Two of the best teams in the world and arch rivals haven’t played a test match for 11 years.

The fans are the biggest losers in this.

I wonder how long will it get.

When will we play another test match?

I hope it’s not 15+ years
 
As strange as it sounds Ishant Sharma is the only survivor from that test match from both teams! :ishant
 
India is the bigger loser here. What is the H2H test record? 12-9 in Pakiatan's favour if I am not wrong. Imagine if we had consistent test series what the record would hv been. There is no doubt that India is a far superior test team than Pakistan and had we played regular red ball cricket, India would be ahead in H2H record by a long way.
 
India is the bigger loser here. What is the H2H test record? 12-9 in Pakiatan's favour if I am not wrong. Imagine if we had consistent test series what the record would hv been. There is no doubt that India is a far superior test team than Pakistan and had we played regular red ball cricket, India would be ahead in H2H record by a long way.

too much ifs and buts .the only blame of not playing goes to your country so live with officially 12-9
 
TBH I remember little of that series.

This was the fourth Test series in four years and believe it or not, many were growing tired of constant Pak-Ind matches.

The pitches for the 2nd and 3rd Tests were very flat. However we had India at 61-4 in the 3rd Test yet they went on to score 626.
 
TBH I remember little of that series.

This was the fourth Test series in four years and believe it or not, many were growing tired of constant Pak-Ind matches.

The pitches for the 2nd and 3rd Tests were very flat. However we had India at 61-4 in the 3rd Test yet they went on to score 626.

Yuvraj was exceptionally good against Pakistan. All his memerable test hundreds are against Pakistan.

You are right about too much cricket making people bored.
 
India is the bigger loser here. What is the H2H test record? 12-9 in Pakiatan's favour if I am not wrong. Imagine if we had consistent test series what the record would hv been. There is no doubt that India is a far superior test team than Pakistan and had we played regular red ball cricket, India would be ahead in H2H record by a long way.

If only there was a Test Championship so India could selectively choose when they don't feel like "boycotting" Pakistan like they do in ODI tournaments. :))
 
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India is the bigger loser here. What is the H2H test record? 12-9 in Pakiatan's favour if I am not wrong. Imagine if we had consistent test series what the record would hv been. There is no doubt that India is a far superior test team than Pakistan and had we played regular red ball cricket, India would be ahead in H2H record by a long way.

I don't think either the Indian board or the fans really care about that H2H record. But yes , would love a test series especially when the longest format is declining real fast in both the countries in terms of attendances and TV ratings.
 
It will be an interesting reversal in terms of pitches if Pakistan were to play India now in India. They would roll out fast bowler friendly pitches.
 
Yuvraj was exceptionally good against Pakistan. All his memerable test hundreds are against Pakistan.

You are right about too much cricket making people bored.

I think Danish really got worked out in this series. This was around the time Ajju should have been introduced.
 
I don't think either the Indian board or the fans really care about that H2H record. But yes , would love a test series especially when the longest format is declining real fast in both the countries in terms of attendances and TV ratings.

They care a lot about the World Cup head to head so why do they not care about the overall head to head.
Is it because they just want to see the records where india is leading?
 
Hopefully after Indian elections are over ties between both countries will improve enough to resume regular cricket.
 
It is a disgrace that GOI (and/or BCCI) has imposed sporting boycott on Pakistan. Very convenient of them to have billions of dollars of trade, religious/medical visas, contact in global sports events (Olympics, CWG, Asian Games, various WCs, CT etc), movies/culture crossover, hugs by the PMs in wedding parties, exchange of sweets by diplomats etc but no bilateral sports or participation in leagues be it cricket, hockey or football. Fans from both countries want sporting contacts (even neutral venues will be perfect considering our huge diaspora) but the hawks, extremists and hypocrites in Delhi only want to use Pakistan for vote catching purposes.

New Delhi's concerns about Hafiz Saeed, Masood Azhar, Dawood, Rawalpindi, cross border terror, Khalistan, drugs etc are valid but why should cricket be a soft target? If they are so sincere cut off bilateral trade on moral grounds and fight issues on political/diplomatic level. It seems like they want to groom a new generation of Indians who are consumed by hatred for Pakistan right from a young age, this too is radicalization. Don't believe me, look at our election rallies, political speeches, Pakistan related jibes, news channels, social media etc, there is systematic brainwashing going on and at least Indians on PP should understand that there is direct propaganda ongoing to benefit a certain ideology. Literally in the current political climate, Pakistan means bad/evil/enemy for majority Indians without any attempt on their part to understand the realities or ask valid counter questions (sheep mentality). I can't speak about Pakistan, let their people worry about their problems and perception of India.

Pakistan may have many anti-India elements, their army/ISI may have problems with us (these things are mutual) but they are not responsible for the current suspension of cricket ties.
 
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Sports and cultural cooperation should be kept alive. Both have shared cultures more or less and great sporting rivalries.
 
They care a lot about the World Cup head to head so why do they not care about the overall head to head.
Is it because they just want to see the records where india is leading?

Who told you Indians care about the world cup H2H record ? Honestly, I don't give a hoot about that.
My statement was in response to [MENTION=147347]Canford Cliffs[/MENTION]' claim that Indian cricket is losing on a chance to improving the H2H record . And they should arrange a series just for the sake of that. Is the H2H record that important? I don't think so.
 
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Cricket is a common binding factor for people of India and Pakistan. It is one thing that unites common citizens from both countries. You look at an Indo-Pak cricket match in London/Dubai, fans from both countries sit together taking selfies, sharing food, wishing each other well, friendly barbs/humor, together going through a wild range of emotions in a carnival like atmosphere, spending time together, giving joint interviews etc. Same in social media or even this forum. Some of us may pull each others legs, insult/mock each other's players/team but beneath all that is a camaraderie and kinship even though we may hesitate to admit it. We see each other as similar people with common culture, likes and dislikes and this is a welcome change because in all other avenues except sports, movies (not always) both our people are portrayed negatively in each other's media, politics, military, households, streets etc.

Cricket is a rare gift which can fight that negativity and except 1-2 bad apples people/players involved (our peace ambassadors) are portrayed in good light, eg Kohli/Gavaskar/Dravid/Balaji in Pakistan or Asif Iqbal/Majid/Wasim/Afridi in India. Sports unites the common folk and hence is a tool the political masters, military, deep state, media etc can manipulate for their interests. Indo-Pak friendship in the form of cricket scares some people and it can't get clearer than what is happening in current India. At all costs New Delhi has to have Pakistan as an all weather enemy, it is behaving like North Korea in this respect.
 
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So sad. I didn't watch cricket much back then so have never followed an India Pakistan test match in my life, and I don't think I ever will :(
 
So sad. I didn't watch cricket much back then so have never followed an India Pakistan test match in my life, and I don't think I ever will :(

To be honest great India-Pakistan tests are a rare thing. Historicaly both nations have played out 80% draws i guess. Flat pitches mostly. Big boring run fests.

The ODIs have been great always.
 
I think Danish really got worked out in this series. This was around the time Ajju should have been introduced.

He seemed to bowl with a changed action too. Anyway we were still a good team against spin back then.

Was a poor pace attack from Pakistan. Akhtar was the only threat and he had huge fitness issues during the series.
 
Pity . Would love to see a 5 test series in India & away series at any neutral venue except UAE .
Great chance to improve our head to head record too :)
 
India is the bigger loser here. What is the H2H test record? 12-9 in Pakiatan's favour if I am not wrong. Imagine if we had consistent test series what the record would hv been. There is no doubt that India is a far superior test team than Pakistan and had we played regular red ball cricket, India would be ahead in H2H record by a long way.

In India yes India will always be faveroute even if they play vs world 11. But in the UAE with MisYou Pak would have beaten India.
 
It will be an interesting reversal in terms of pitches if Pakistan were to play India now in India. They would roll out fast bowler friendly pitches.

I highly doubt that. We would roll out flat highways most likely. The current fast bowling attack of Abbas/Hasa/Shaheen/aamir would be exceptionally good on a bowling friendly pitch.
 
TBH I remember little of that series.

This was the fourth Test series in four years and believe it or not, many were growing tired of constant Pak-Ind matches.

The pitches for the 2nd and 3rd Tests were very flat. However we had India at 61-4 in the 3rd Test yet they went on to score 626.

I think Yasir Arafat took those early wickets. It must be the same series where Misbah played some great knocks batting at 5 or 6.
 
I highly doubt that. We would roll out flat highways most likely. The current fast bowling attack of Abbas/Hasa/Shaheen/aamir would be exceptionally good on a bowling friendly pitch.

Not sure. I think certainly in the first test of such a matchup they might go with a sporting pitch. They have the bowlers for it and would feel confident that in a shootout their batting might do somewhat better than the Pakistani.
Plus I think Kohli has made a big play during his captaincy of winning with fast bowlers
 
Mate u even made a whole song on that “mauka mauka”
Also every Indian on twitter brings that up.
 
In India yes India will always be faveroute even if they play vs world 11. But in the UAE with MisYou Pak would have beaten India.

Nah...India would hv beaten your lot in test cricket anywhere in planet earth, I am very certain about it. 5 day is too long a game for Pakistan to beat a quality side like India. In LOIs however, it is anybodies game with Pak being favorite in T20s.
 
For Pakistan's honour it's better it stays this way for a while. India are superior in every format, in every department of the game.

Even though I can understand the PCB's position considering it's financial situation.
 
For Pakistan's honour it's better it stays this way for a while. India are superior in every format, in every department of the game.

Even though I can understand the PCB's position considering it's financial situation.

In an Ind v Pak game you never know. Pakistan may get a highly unlikely test victory in India.

And yep, PCB needs that Pak v Ind money, more than ever.
 
Nah...India would hv beaten your lot in test cricket anywhere in planet earth, I am very certain about it. 5 day is too long a game for Pakistan to beat a quality side like India. In LOIs however, it is anybodies game with Pak being favorite in T20s.

No not in the UAE during 2014 to 2017. There was no huge difference between the sides for UAE wickets.
 
In an Ind v Pak game you never know. Pakistan may get a highly unlikely test victory in India.

And yep, PCB needs that Pak v Ind money, more than ever.

Pak might fluke here and there but in general they would win any series. Especially on those sand tracks in the UAE.

Ironically Pak would do better in India where there still would be something for the pacers.
 
How sad!

Two of the best teams in the world and arch rivals haven’t played a test match for 11 years.

The fans are the biggest losers in this.

I wonder how long will it get.

When will we play another test match?

I hope it’s not 15+ years

err Bhaijaan
 
It is a disgrace that GOI (and/or BCCI) has imposed sporting boycott on Pakistan. Very convenient of them to have billions of dollars of trade, religious/medical visas, contact in global sports events (Olympics, CWG, Asian Games, various WCs, CT etc), movies/culture crossover, hugs by the PMs in wedding parties, exchange of sweets by diplomats etc but no bilateral sports or participation in leagues be it cricket, hockey or football. Fans from both countries want sporting contacts (even neutral venues will be perfect considering our huge diaspora) but the hawks, extremists and hypocrites in Delhi only want to use Pakistan for vote catching purposes.

New Delhi's concerns about Hafiz Saeed, Masood Azhar, Dawood, Rawalpindi, cross border terror, Khalistan, drugs etc are valid but why should cricket be a soft target? If they are so sincere cut off bilateral trade on moral grounds and fight issues on political/diplomatic level. It seems like they want to groom a new generation of Indians who are consumed by hatred for Pakistan right from a young age, this too is radicalization. Don't believe me, look at our election rallies, political speeches, Pakistan related jibes, news channels, social media etc, there is systematic brainwashing going on and at least Indians on PP should understand that there is direct propaganda ongoing to benefit a certain ideology. Literally in the current political climate, Pakistan means bad/evil/enemy for majority Indians without any attempt on their part to understand the realities or ask valid counter questions (sheep mentality). I can't speak about Pakistan, let their people worry about their problems and perception of India.

Pakistan may have many anti-India elements, their army/ISI may have problems with us (these things are mutual) but they are not responsible for the current suspension of cricket ties.

Hear, hear.

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Nah...India would hv beaten your lot in test cricket anywhere in planet earth, I am very certain about it. 5 day is too long a game for Pakistan to beat a quality side like India. In LOIs however, it is anybodies game with Pak being favorite in T20s.

Easy on the delusion there, Indian_Supporter. For example, Pakistan competed well in England (Matches: 10, Won: 4, Lost:6) during this time period, whereas India (Matches: 14, Won: 2, Lost: 11, Drawn: 1) were mercilessly mauled time and again. :ishant
 
Get a life and stop dreaming of playing against India. In the past, India vs Pakistan hockey matches were looked forward to. These days no one gives a fig to these matches. Same is going to happen to the cricket matches between the two countries as well. Indians have moved on. It is time Pakistani fans stoppped living in the past.
 
Get a life and stop dreaming of playing against India. In the past, India vs Pakistan hockey matches were looked forward to. These days no one gives a fig to these matches. Same is going to happen to the cricket matches between the two countries as well. Indians have moved on. It is time Pakistani fans stoppped living in the past.

No one is intersted in playing with your team. the thread is open by indian not by pakistani
apart from some in PCB pak fans have moved on
 
Get a life and stop dreaming of playing against India. In the past, India vs Pakistan hockey matches were looked forward to. These days no one gives a fig to these matches. Same is going to happen to the cricket matches between the two countries as well. Indians have moved on. It is time Pakistani fans stoppped living in the past.

You will be the first one to be glued to TV when an India-Pakistan test match ever resumes.

The hype will never go down for as long as Indians and Pakistanis remain passionate about cricket.
 
But the longest gap is 1961-1978.
Total 17 years. So it is still long way to go.
 
You will be the first one to be glued to TV when an India-Pakistan test match ever resumes.

The hype will never go down for as long as Indians and Pakistanis remain passionate about cricket.

I remain glued only when cricket is competitive and of good quality.

Have no fear. there will be no India vs Pakistan matches in near future.
 
no body cares except PCB who loves to beg, have some dignity PCB
 
too much ifs and buts .the only blame of not playing goes to your country so live with officially 12-9

I see this quite often, around all the cricket forums. One fan stands up and blames a country for x, y, z reason. As if we the fans are somehow benifiting. You're a looser, am a looser, players are loosers, cricket is a looser in this scenerio. Only people that even gains something out of this are the silly politicians and their ego. Their EGO is what is feed from depriving us from cricket. That's all. Everyone else around looses (regardless of how it started/who started).
 
I'll be honest in the space of 70 years there's only been two decent Ind-Pak Test series. That was 1999 and 2005.

The rest were dull, dreary affairs. People go on about the 2006 series but the first two Tests were an abomination. As were many series in the 70s and 80s when pitches had less life in them than the dodo to ensure face-saving draws.
 
India is the bigger loser here. What is the H2H test record? 12-9 in Pakiatan's favour if I am not wrong. Imagine if we had consistent test series what the record would hv been. There is no doubt that India is a far superior test team than Pakistan and had we played regular red ball cricket, India would be ahead in H2H record by a long way.

Pakistan's squad in that Test series was probably the weakest to ever tour India and they could only win 1-0 in 3 match series.
 
The current Pak team cannot play spin that well so would get decimated by India.
 
Mindless contest fueled by the enmity between two countries. Let there be a peace first. It's very hard to look beyond all the unfortunate things that happened whenever these two countries meet. That is not an ideal scenario.
 
The bigger loss has been Pakistan's both in terms of finances and player development.

The harsh reality is that India has not missed playing Pakistan at all.
 
Get a life and stop dreaming of playing against India. In the past, India vs Pakistan hockey matches were looked forward to. These days no one gives a fig to these matches. Same is going to happen to the cricket matches between the two countries as well. Indians have moved on. It is time Pakistani fans stoppped living in the past.

This is true. India now looks for validation from series against natural 'rivals' Australia. They can't win in England so next best will have to do. The search for respect from their white rivals doesn't seem to be gaining much traction however, as Aussie crowds are still taunting Indian players about their visas.
 
Get a life and stop dreaming of playing against India. In the past, India vs Pakistan hockey matches were looked forward to. These days no one gives a fig to these matches. Same is going to happen to the cricket matches between the two countries as well. Indians have moved on. It is time Pakistani fans stoppped living in the past.

Isn't it ironic that the whole thread was started by an Indian?:yk

Pakistanis have moved on mate. No one really cares about Indo Pak matches anymore in Pakistan. We have bigger issues to deal with.

Also it is pretty ironic that indians are saying they have 'moved' on even though when u go to twitter, whole icc posts on pakistan are flooded by indians abusing pakistanis whilst hardly any pakistani says anything on Indian posts, let alone abuse them. Indians feel happier when pakistan loses than when their own team wins. Coz they know they can just go on twitter and 'troll' the pakistanis even though most pakistanis don't even care.
I guess the obsession with Pakistan by indians will never end.

Get your facts right before assuming things.
 
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India vs Pak rivalry is dead and buried, no need for it to come back.

Is that the reason why every India-Pakistan match shatters all previous viewership records?

Fact is despite its wishes to become a proper sports nation having competitive teams in major sports, Cricket is still the only major sport India is good at.

Indians will be glued to their tv screens even when they play Bermuda or Namibia in Cricket and when it’s the big daddy Pakistan the anxiety levels hit the roof for most Indians because a loss still hurts the most.

Overall it’s just funny to see Indians posting on a Pakistani cricket forum about how they have moved on from India-Pakistan rivalry. The irony of it kills me.
 
This is true. India now looks for validation from series against natural 'rivals' Australia. They can't win in England so next best will have to do. The search for respect from their white rivals doesn't seem to be gaining much traction however, as Aussie crowds are still taunting Indian players about their visas.

Did Indian players go to Australia without getting visas? That's really shameful, man. The players should be kicked out of Aus immediately, if true.
 
Captain has raised a fair point the rivalry with Australia is as one sided as it gets. Their fans simply don’t care about the Indian team and have not turned up.

England, South Africa have drawn much bigger crowds.

India-Bangladesh in fact has become huge. I consider Bangladesh India’s biggest rivalry today after Pakistan.
 
Why do you say that?

Both countries diplomatic relations are unlikely to recover anytime soon, and by that I mean decades. In the past (early 90s to early 00s) India liked having series with Pakistan as it brought a lot of revenue, as BCCI was still not rich back then. However as India's economy started booming in mid-late 2000s, it coincided with the political rift in 2008 (which is also when IPL became a success). BCCI has become wealthy enough it doesn't need Indo-Pak matches to remain profitable, and it has no problem with the governement blocking bilateral cricket matches with Pakistan.

BCCI/India has become indifferent to PCB/Pakistan regarding cricket, which is worse than hatred. Indifference is the worst enemy to a rivalry. Ind-Pak rivalry is dead now and will remain so in future unless something special happens.
 
The only reason why we managed to stay "unbeaten" in the UAE till 2017.
 
Is that the reason why every India-Pakistan match shatters all previous viewership records?

Fact is despite its wishes to become a proper sports nation having competitive teams in major sports, Cricket is still the only major sport India is good at.

Indians will be glued to their tv screens even when they play Bermuda or Namibia in Cricket and when it’s the big daddy Pakistan the anxiety levels hit the roof for most Indians because a loss still hurts the most.

Overall it’s just funny to see Indians posting on a Pakistani cricket forum about how they have moved on from India-Pakistan rivalry. The irony of it kills me.

You think today's desi kids and teenagers (6-15) care about Ind-Pak match results any differently from other matches? I highly doubt that. Those viewer ratings you now speak of will change in 5 years when there will be adults who never watched a Ind-Pak test in their life. Can't be passionate about something you have no idea of.
 
The only reason why we managed to stay "unbeaten" in the UAE till 2017.

Nah, I think under Misbah we could have won series against India, toss would of course play a huge role though.
 
With the way both test teams are going right now i wouldnt want a series anytime soon.:vk2
 
Nah, I think under Misbah we could have won series against India, toss would of course play a huge role though.

Sri Lanka was the only Asian team to play in the UAE, and we needed a fluke, chaotic chase in Sharjah to prevent a series defeat in 2014. Apart from Sri Lanka, other teams pushed us to the brink as well with the exception of Australia. Quality spinners regularly troubled us in the UAE during Misbah's reign. I don't think we had the bowling or the batting during that time to beat India.

India today would have demolish us in three days, but yes it would have been a more competitive encounter during the 2012-2015 period. However, I would still have backed India to win 2-0 or 2-1 in a 3 match series.
 
India would certainly not have beaten Pakistan in the UAE till 2016. Misbah had complete command over the UAE conditions and that team was a solid batting unit back then. Misbah and Younis had always feasted on Indian attacks. India's bowling attack during that time was pretty average as well. Plus Virat Kohli the batter wasn't the Virat Kohli we see today. So even if India had scored 450, Pakistan would've responded in kind because of the average Indian attack. Saeed Ajmal was also at his peak and history suggests that India never plays quality spin well. Today, however, India vs Pakistan is a no-contest. Straight whitewash by India.
 
You think today's desi kids and teenagers (6-15) care about Ind-Pak match results any differently from other matches? I highly doubt that. Those viewer ratings you now speak of will change in 5 years when there will be adults who never watched a Ind-Pak test in their life. Can't be passionate about something you have no idea of.

The kids are stupid and will follow where he hype goes. Like you and me curious read and undersgand history. I wasn’t around when the Bodyline was played but I understand the emotions involved and why Ashes carries such a legacy.

As soon as relations resume, kids will simply follow the media hype and be glued to the TV. Besides these kids just watched Pakistan whoop India’s overrated ODI team in the CT final.

Anyone who denies India’s obsession and jealousy with Pakistan and their cricket team is simply delusional.

FYI there wasn’t a test series between India-Pakistan from 1989 to 1999 either.

It didn’t affect the rivalry in fact this only adds to the hunger.
 
Sri Lanka was the only Asian team to play in the UAE, and we needed a fluke, chaotic chase in Sharjah to prevent a series defeat in 2014. Apart from Sri Lanka, other teams pushed us to the brink as well with the exception of Australia. Quality spinners regularly troubled us in the UAE during Misbah's reign. I don't think we had the bowling or the batting during that time to beat India.

India today would have demolish us in three days, but yes it would have been a more competitive encounter during the 2012-2015 period. However, I would still have backed India to win 2-0 or 2-1 in a 3 match series.

The best part about this rivalry is the absolute unpredictability. Just when you feel one team clearly has the momentum and upper hand the other one comes out of nowhere to smash!

These matches are all about who handles pressure at that time.

There is no absolute favorite ever in an India-Pakistan encounter. This rivalry defies statistics
 
Who would have thought India would draw Imran’s great side in their backyard in 1989 over 5 tests ?

Nobody gave a chance to Inzamam’s team travelling to India in 200( but they drew 1-1
 
Sri Lanka was the only Asian team to play in the UAE, and we needed a fluke, chaotic chase in Sharjah to prevent a series defeat in 2014. Apart from Sri Lanka, other teams pushed us to the brink as well with the exception of Australia. Quality spinners regularly troubled us in the UAE during Misbah's reign. I don't think we had the bowling or the batting during that time to beat India.

India today would have demolish us in three days, but yes it would have been a more competitive encounter during the 2012-2015 period. However, I would still have backed India to win 2-0 or 2-1 in a 3 match series.

Sri Lanka were a great team back then, they had the likes of Sangakkara and Jayawardene. I agree today's India would beat Pakistan anywhere but during the 2012-15 period our team would have started as slight favourites against the Indian team of the same period. No way India would beat us 2-0 in a 3 match series back then. Let's not forget India team was not that strong then, they even lost a home series to England 2-1 in 2012-13 so I think against Pakistan they would have struggled.
 
India would certainly not have beaten Pakistan in the UAE till 2016. Misbah had complete command over the UAE conditions and that team was a solid batting unit back then. Misbah and Younis had always feasted on Indian attacks. India's bowling attack during that time was pretty average as well. Plus Virat Kohli the batter wasn't the Virat Kohli we see today. So even if India had scored 450, Pakistan would've responded in kind because of the average Indian attack. Saeed Ajmal was also at his peak and history suggests that India never plays quality spin well. Today, however, India vs Pakistan is a no-contest. Straight whitewash by India.

Misbah lost Tests to Sri Lanka, New Zealand, South Africa, West Indies and England (they were 10 mins away from winning in Abu Dhabi in 2015 but bad light saved us) in the UAE.

Out of all teams, India were the best equipped to win a series there. Kohli may not have been so prolific back then, but he would still have piled up the runs on the dead UAE wickets and the fact that he completely dominated Ajmal every time he faced him. As far as Yasir is concerned, the Indian batsmen tend to play leg-spinners very well.

However, the biggest thorn in the Indian team would have been Pujara. He is tailor-made for UAE wickets. Dhawan is a beast in Asia as well, and Dhoni was very good in Asian Tests.

Almost every decent spinner has done is in the UAE once even during the Younis and Misbah era, so in a series, it is inevitable that Ashwin and Jadeja would have eventually won a game for India at some point. It would easily have been the most entertaining Test series in the UAE and would have attracted decent crowds.

I agree that it will be a humiliating mismatch today, but I would still go for the 2012-2016 India to prevail over the 2012-2016 Pakistan in the UAE after a competitive contest. It is a shame that the 2015-16 series never happened though.
 
Ofcourse we are the biggest losers as fans. Bilateral series need to come back and that should happen without PCB begging BCCI and later threatening for consequences ( in the end losing :D). I miss the india pakistan test matches so much , ofcourse india is like powerhouse of all cricket at the moment but i still feel that pakistan can give them hard time.
 
India v Pakistan test matches in England will be fun..

Anywhwre other than that the conditions will turn the series into a snooze fest.
 
Misbah lost Tests to Sri Lanka, New Zealand, South Africa, West Indies and England (they were 10 mins away from winning in Abu Dhabi in 2015 but bad light saved us) in the UAE.

Out of all teams, India were the best equipped to win a series there. Kohli may not have been so prolific back then, but he would still have piled up the runs on the dead UAE wickets and the fact that he completely dominated Ajmal every time he faced him. As far as Yasir is concerned, the Indian batsmen tend to play leg-spinners very well.

However, the biggest thorn in the Indian team would have been Pujara. He is tailor-made for UAE wickets. Dhawan is a beast in Asia as well, and Dhoni was very good in Asian Tests.

Almost every decent spinner has done is in the UAE once even during the Younis and Misbah era, so in a series, it is inevitable that Ashwin and Jadeja would have eventually won a game for India at some point. It would easily have been the most entertaining Test series in the UAE and would have attracted decent crowds.

I agree that it will be a humiliating mismatch today, but I would still go for the 2012-2016 India to prevail over the 2012-2016 Pakistan in the UAE after a competitive contest. It is a shame that the 2015-16 series never happened though.

Misbah lost Tests but never the series. Against India maybe he would've lost a Test here or there but wouldn't have lost the series for sure.

With regards to Ajmal, you cannot extrapolate ODI/T20 performance into Test cricket. Tests are completely different. I give you the example of Pietersen vs McGrath. Pietersen was a McGrath bunny in Tests but completely owned him in ODIs. McGrath couldn't get Pietersen out even once in ODI. So even if Kohli dominated Ajmal in ODIs it doesn't mean he would've in Tests as well especially when Kohli wasn't the Kohli of today while Ajmal was at its peak.

I don't regard Yasir as superior to Ajmal. If we leave the chucking out as Ajmal was deemed legal at that time, Ajmla was head and shoulders above Yasir and India has always struggled against off spinners. Heck they even gave 8 wickets in an innings to Jason Krejza at home.

As far as spinners in the UAE goes, till the time Misbah and Younis played, no opposition spinner dominated UAE like Ajmal did. Herath was averaging 35+ at a SR of 80+ in the UAE when Misbah and Younis were playing. Bishoo was literally gifted wickets because Pakistan already had a mammoth first innings lead. Swann never had a 5-for in the UAE. Jadeja and Ashwin would've taken wickets but not at the scale where they would've won a Test match on their own.

It was indeed a disappointment that an Indo-Pak series in the UAE couldn't materialize as Pakistan back then were pretty good in the UAE. Maybe they wouldn't have won, but they wouldn't have lost for sure.
 
India is the bigger loser here. What is the H2H test record? 12-9 in Pakiatan's favour if I am not wrong. Imagine if we had consistent test series what the record would hv been. There is no doubt that India is a far superior test team than Pakistan and had we played regular red ball cricket, India would be ahead in H2H record by a long way.

tbh the bowling attacks pak had in the 00s series against india were pbly the worst they fielded in the last 30 years barring shoaib and until misbah younis retired pak had the players to counter indias spin threat to some extent. also indian batting in 00s was much stronger.

i think if they had played 9 odd tests in the last 8 years pre misyou it would pbly be 3-2 to india with 4 odd draws simply because pak batting would have randomly collapsed more than india. pak india historically had a lot of dull drawn games.

pak team now is super weak tho and would expect serious losses where ever they played. so guess no pak ind tests for the foreseeable future isnt a bad thing.
 
We've survived without playing India. I don't care if we never play them again.
 
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