Despite Billions spent on defense, where was India’s security during the Pahalgam attack?

[emranabbas]

A deadly attack happened in one of the most sensitive and supposedly “well-guarded” areas in the country, and the response was... absolutely nothing. No quick reaction, no visible security, not even a single cop or soldier on the scene when it actually mattered. This happened in a tourist area in Kashmir, not some remote village and yet there was no one around to step in.

How is that even possible in a place that’s supposed to be swarming with security?


It brings up some uncomfortable but necessary questions for the Indians:


Is India’s security all talk? Every year, india pumps in billions in defense, intelligence, and internal security and still, attackers were able to stroll into a tourist hotspot with weapons and explosives like it was nothing. Either someone seriously messed up, or their system is so weak that can't even do the basics like protect people in high-risk areas. i know indians will try to compare it with Pakistan but just for the sake of an argument lets agree Pakistan is a failed state but we are talking about a country like India who are always boasting


Where were the forces? Every time something like this happens, india gives the same old excuses “intelligence failure,” “caught off guard,” “miscommunication.” At this point, India are just incompetent .These aren’t one-off errors anymore, they’re repeated screw-up that terrorists clearly know how to take advantage of.


Or was it something worse? was this allowed to happen? When security is completely absent during an attack like this, it makes you wonder if someone told them to back off. Was this an inside job?


India’s always putting up a front of being tough on terror, but when real danger shows up, where’s that toughness?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Organising the attack probably.

 

[RexRex]

It's very hard to police a porous border.

 

[ipog]

A deadly attack happened in one of the most sensitive and supposedly “well-guarded” areas in the country, and the response was... absolutely nothing. No quick reaction, no visible security, not even a single cop or soldier on the scene when it actually mattered. This happened in a tourist area in Kashmir, not some remote village and yet there was no one around to step in.

How is that even possible in a place that’s supposed to be swarming with security?


It brings up some uncomfortable but necessary questions for the Indians:


Is India’s security all talk? Every year, india pumps in billions in defense, intelligence, and internal security and still, attackers were able to stroll into a tourist hotspot with weapons and explosives like it was nothing. Either someone seriously messed up, or their system is so weak that can't even do the basics like protect people in high-risk areas. i know indians will try to compare it with Pakistan but just for the sake of an argument lets agree Pakistan is a failed state but we are talking about a country like India who are always boasting


Where were the forces? Every time something like this happens, india gives the same old excuses “intelligence failure,” “caught off guard,” “miscommunication.” At this point, India are just incompetent .These aren’t one-off errors anymore, they’re repeated screw-up that terrorists clearly know how to take advantage of.


Or was it something worse? was this allowed to happen? When security is completely absent during an attack like this, it makes you wonder if someone told them to back off. Was this an inside job?


India’s always putting up a front of being tough on terror, but when real danger shows up, where’s that toughness?

Ah, You are on of those who say 9/11 and 26/11 are inside jobs. Same as Pak's school bomb attacks and baluch train attacks then

 

[Major]

Probably thinking about the next move to make in cricket to feel powerful.....

Who knows this could be an indian army inside job like they did when Clinton came to a visit and 35 sikhs were killed and it turned out to be their own armed forces to be involved.

I found it interesting that the terrorist were wearing Indian army uniform with the emblems.

 

[emranabbas]

Ah, You are on of those who say 9/11 and 26/11 are inside jobs. Same as Pak's school bomb attacks and baluch train attacks then

I'm not trying to stir anything up, but it’s honestly hard to understand how something like this can happen in India

especially when we hear so much about billions being spent on security and how progressing india is

Let’s not even bring Pakistan into this as india considers pakiatan to be a failed countey so its bit silly to compare it self with pakistan.

But for a country like India, with its global standing, it really makes you wonder what’s going wrong.


Let me know if you want it even more emotional or toned down.

 

[JaDed]

Organising the attack probably.

Naw that is organised by ones that put IK and keep him behind bars.
The greatest Establishment to rule a region.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Unfortunately the old adage is true, intelligence has to be right 100% of the time and the terrorists only need to be right once.

In this case I think they suffered from some hubris and thought Kashmir issue was resolved. That was the news that we appeared to have been fed by people like @saimayubera era who claimed to holiday yearly and that insurgency was over because there was a railway bridge that had been built. Rather than a false flag attack they seemed to just let their guard down too soon. When the government and media presents an overly picture then it is natural that the security personnel will loosen their guards. Only recently the Indian establishment were talking about entering Azad Kashmir now that they felt the Kashmir issue was solved on their side. Perhaps their focus was elsewhere?

 

[Bhaijaan]

Terrorist incidents happen all over the world including US, EU who have bigger defense budgets

 

[HalBass9]

Terrorist incidents happen all over the world including US, EU who have bigger defense budgets

True. No one stations an estimated 700,000 troops in a region just to “protect and defend” it.

 

[Bhaijaan]

True. No one stations an estimated 700,000 troops in a region just to “protect and defend” it.

It’s an exaggerated number and we just saw the reality of the situation. After whatever happened does it look like 700k to anyone? This is just corruption of the highest order and needs a deeper investigation. Where is all the money going? Hi recruitment’s happening, they’re talking about temporary contracted soldiers and stuff like that.

 

[HalBass9]

It’s an exaggerated number and we just saw the reality of the situation. After whatever happened does it look like 700k to anyone? This is just corruption of the highest order and needs a deeper investigation. Where is all the money going? Hi recruitment’s happening, they’re talking about temporary contracted soldiers and stuff like that.

Even half that number would raise eyebrows.

 

[emranabbas]

Terrorist incidents happen all over the world including US, EU who have bigger defense budgets

For argument sake let's say these guys travelled from sialkot to pahalgam

nobody on the way searched for weapons?

Do you not have any checkpoints? security was sleeping or something?

And if it is pakistan its not possible without indian help, so we could say it could be inside job

 

[emranabbas]

So there are currently 1 million soldiers active in IOK and 4 guys from pakistan dodged them and did some Hungama in pahalgam?

Here are the actual number of troops deployed in Jammu and Kashmir

The latest number of Indian security personnel in Jammu & Kashmir is 1 million! Yes, that’s 1,000,000 troops deployed in Jammu & Kashmir with the express purpose to hold the local population, according to media that doesn't much care for facts. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

 

[HalBass9]

For argument sake let's say these guys travelled from sialkot to pahalgam

nobody on the way searched for weapons?

Do you not have any checkpoints? security was sleeping or something?

And if it is pakistan its not possible without indian help, so we could say it could be inside job

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An estimated 700,000 troops stationed in the region, allegedly to “protect” it.

The real issue? Fingers were already being pointed before the bodies were even counted. It’s narrative control, and it speaks volumes.

 

[sweep_shot]

So there are currently 1 million soldiers active in IOK and 4 guys from pakistan dodged them and did some Hungama in pahalgam?

Here are the actual number of troops deployed in Jammu and Kashmir

The latest number of Indian security personnel in Jammu & Kashmir is 1 million! Yes, that’s 1,000,000 troops deployed in Jammu & Kashmir with the express purpose to hold the local population, according to media that doesn't much care for facts. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

Doesn't seem believable at all.

It seems like they wanted/allowed it to happen. False flag?

 

[emranabbas]

Doesn't seem believable at all.

It seems like they wanted/allowed it to happen. False flag?

Its either their soldiers are incompetent or its an inside job

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Ah, You are on of those who say 9/11

Americans themselves say 9/11 was a false flag.

 

[Usman Chadda]

The consistency with which these guys get their pants pulled down by a failed state like Pakistan is shocking for such a rapidly developing powerhouse.

These idiots pretty much end up calling their intelligence useless when they blame Pakistan.

 

[Ball Blazer]

Seems plotted, an inside job for sure!

 

[Stewie]

The consistency with which these guys get their pants pulled down by a failed state like Pakistan is shocking for such a rapidly developing powerhouse.

These idiots pretty much end up calling their intelligence useless when they blame Pakistan.

that's bad intelligence. very very bad..