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Despite Billions spent on defense, where was India’s security during the Pahalgam attack?

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A deadly attack happened in one of the most sensitive and supposedly “well-guarded” areas in the country, and the response was... absolutely nothing. No quick reaction, no visible security, not even a single cop or soldier on the scene when it actually mattered. This happened in a tourist area in Kashmir, not some remote village and yet there was no one around to step in.

How is that even possible in a place that’s supposed to be swarming with security?


It brings up some uncomfortable but necessary questions for the Indians:


Is India’s security all talk? Every year, india pumps in billions in defense, intelligence, and internal security and still, attackers were able to stroll into a tourist hotspot with weapons and explosives like it was nothing. Either someone seriously messed up, or their system is so weak that can't even do the basics like protect people in high-risk areas. i know indians will try to compare it with Pakistan but just for the sake of an argument lets agree Pakistan is a failed state but we are talking about a country like India who are always boasting


Where were the forces? Every time something like this happens, india gives the same old excuses “intelligence failure,” “caught off guard,” “miscommunication.” At this point, India are just incompetent .These aren’t one-off errors anymore, they’re repeated screw-up that terrorists clearly know how to take advantage of.


Or was it something worse? was this allowed to happen? When security is completely absent during an attack like this, it makes you wonder if someone told them to back off. Was this an inside job?


India’s always putting up a front of being tough on terror, but when real danger shows up, where’s that toughness?
 
A deadly attack happened in one of the most sensitive and supposedly “well-guarded” areas in the country, and the response was... absolutely nothing. No quick reaction, no visible security, not even a single cop or soldier on the scene when it actually mattered. This happened in a tourist area in Kashmir, not some remote village and yet there was no one around to step in.

How is that even possible in a place that’s supposed to be swarming with security?


It brings up some uncomfortable but necessary questions for the Indians:


Is India’s security all talk? Every year, india pumps in billions in defense, intelligence, and internal security and still, attackers were able to stroll into a tourist hotspot with weapons and explosives like it was nothing. Either someone seriously messed up, or their system is so weak that can't even do the basics like protect people in high-risk areas. i know indians will try to compare it with Pakistan but just for the sake of an argument lets agree Pakistan is a failed state but we are talking about a country like India who are always boasting


Where were the forces? Every time something like this happens, india gives the same old excuses “intelligence failure,” “caught off guard,” “miscommunication.” At this point, India are just incompetent .These aren’t one-off errors anymore, they’re repeated screw-up that terrorists clearly know how to take advantage of.


Or was it something worse? was this allowed to happen? When security is completely absent during an attack like this, it makes you wonder if someone told them to back off. Was this an inside job?


India’s always putting up a front of being tough on terror, but when real danger shows up, where’s that toughness?
Ah, You are on of those who say 9/11 and 26/11 are inside jobs. Same as Pak's school bomb attacks and baluch train attacks then
 
Probably thinking about the next move to make in cricket to feel powerful.....

Who knows this could be an indian army inside job like they did when Clinton came to a visit and 35 sikhs were killed and it turned out to be their own armed forces to be involved.

I found it interesting that the terrorist were wearing Indian army uniform with the emblems.
 
Ah, You are on of those who say 9/11 and 26/11 are inside jobs. Same as Pak's school bomb attacks and baluch train attacks then

I'm not trying to stir anything up, but it’s honestly hard to understand how something like this can happen in India

especially when we hear so much about billions being spent on security and how progressing india is

Let’s not even bring Pakistan into this as india considers pakiatan to be a failed countey so its bit silly to compare it self with pakistan.

But for a country like India, with its global standing, it really makes you wonder what’s going wrong.


Let me know if you want it even more emotional or toned down.
 
Unfortunately the old adage is true, intelligence has to be right 100% of the time and the terrorists only need to be right once.

In this case I think they suffered from some hubris and thought Kashmir issue was resolved. That was the news that we appeared to have been fed by people like @saimayubera era who claimed to holiday yearly and that insurgency was over because there was a railway bridge that had been built. Rather than a false flag attack they seemed to just let their guard down too soon. When the government and media presents an overly picture then it is natural that the security personnel will loosen their guards. Only recently the Indian establishment were talking about entering Azad Kashmir now that they felt the Kashmir issue was solved on their side. Perhaps their focus was elsewhere?
 
Terrorist incidents happen all over the world including US, EU who have bigger defense budgets
 
True. No one stations an estimated 700,000 troops in a region just to “protect and defend” it.

It’s an exaggerated number and we just saw the reality of the situation. After whatever happened does it look like 700k to anyone? This is just corruption of the highest order and needs a deeper investigation. Where is all the money going? Hi recruitment’s happening, they’re talking about temporary contracted soldiers and stuff like that.
 
It’s an exaggerated number and we just saw the reality of the situation. After whatever happened does it look like 700k to anyone? This is just corruption of the highest order and needs a deeper investigation. Where is all the money going? Hi recruitment’s happening, they’re talking about temporary contracted soldiers and stuff like that.
Even half that number would raise eyebrows.
 
Terrorist incidents happen all over the world including US, EU who have bigger defense budgets

For argument sake let's say these guys travelled from sialkot to pahalgam

nobody on the way searched for weapons?

Do you not have any checkpoints? security was sleeping or something?

And if it is pakistan its not possible without indian help, so we could say it could be inside job

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So there are currently 1 million soldiers active in IOK and 4 guys from pakistan dodged them and did some Hungama in pahalgam?


 
For argument sake let's say these guys travelled from sialkot to pahalgam

nobody on the way searched for weapons?

Do you not have any checkpoints? security was sleeping or something?

And if it is pakistan its not possible without indian help, so we could say it could be inside job

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An estimated 700,000 troops stationed in the region, allegedly to “protect” it.

The real issue? Fingers were already being pointed before the bodies were even counted. It’s narrative control, and it speaks volumes.
 
So there are currently 1 million soldiers active in IOK and 4 guys from pakistan dodged them and did some Hungama in pahalgam?



Doesn't seem believable at all.

It seems like they wanted/allowed it to happen. False flag?
 
The consistency with which these guys get their pants pulled down by a failed state like Pakistan is shocking for such a rapidly developing powerhouse.

These idiots pretty much end up calling their intelligence useless when they blame Pakistan.
 
The consistency with which these guys get their pants pulled down by a failed state like Pakistan is shocking for such a rapidly developing powerhouse.

These idiots pretty much end up calling their intelligence useless when they blame Pakistan.
that's bad intelligence. very very bad..
 
Maybe they are spending their budget on making new anti-Pakistan movie starring akshay kumar or maybe hritik roshan...
 
Security was a failure. Government policy towards towards Kashmir was a failure too. The state got caught up on some delusion and hubris thinking that the Kashmir issue was solved. Unfortunately it was far from it. They should rightly be criticized.

Regardless, this whole incident would not have happened if gunmen had shot people. Rather than blaming security we should ensure that blame is placed squarely on the attackers.

Pakistan has suffered from terrorist attacks. We know the consequences of them having to provide presidential levels of security. You cannot have these levels of security in day to day life. Terrorists only have to be right one to cause carnage. A determined terrorist will find a hole in the most watertight of arrangements.

Only way forward is a political solution to this issue with Kashmiris at the forefront of the decision.
 
Security was a failure. Government policy towards towards Kashmir was a failure too. The state got caught up on some delusion and hubris thinking that the Kashmir issue was solved. Unfortunately it was far from it. They should rightly be criticized.

Regardless, this whole incident would not have happened if gunmen had shot people. Rather than blaming security we should ensure that blame is placed squarely on the attackers.

Pakistan has suffered from terrorist attacks. We know the consequences of them having to provide presidential levels of security. You cannot have these levels of security in day to day life. Terrorists only have to be right one to cause carnage. A determined terrorist will find a hole in the most watertight of arrangements.

Only way forward is a political solution to this issue with Kashmiris at the forefront of the decision.

Good to see a Pakistani talking sense.

Was a major security flop by the government, they thought everything was nice and rosy, tourism was back after decades of isolation, new infrastructure built, things were looking up in Indian Kashmir. The government felt all the problems were gone, let their guard down and boy did they get a rude awakening....

Some of the dumb posts you read here about inside job etc is pure comedy. Why in the world would the government spend so much money and time to develop the area to just ruin it by themselves one random day 😂..
 
Good to see a Pakistani talking sense.

Was a major security flop by the government, they thought everything was nice and rosy, tourism was back after decades of isolation, new infrastructure built, things were looking up in Indian Kashmir. The government felt all the problems were gone, let their guard down and boy did they get a rude awakening....

Some of the dumb posts you read here about inside job etc is pure comedy. Why in the world would the government spend so much money and time to develop the area to just ruin it by themselves one random day 😂..
But this is what your DGP said last month

"We will not sleep till we stop such activities": Jammu and Kashmir DGP on Kathua encounter

So why did he go sleep?


Read more At:
 
Good to see a Pakistani talking sense.

Was a major security flop by the government, they thought everything was nice and rosy, tourism was back after decades of isolation, new infrastructure built, things were looking up in Indian Kashmir. The government felt all the problems were gone, let their guard down and boy did they get a rude awakening....

Some of the dumb posts you read here about inside job etc is pure comedy. Why in the world would the government spend so much money and time to develop the area to just ruin it by themselves one random day 😂..
Inside job is a lame theory.

Basically it means all the attacks happened around the world are inside jobs but the ones in Pakistan are real :ROFLMAO:
 
800,000 troops in Kashmir, yet incidents still occur. Are they incompetent???

Guess so,
 
bhai... 5lac b hon... answer the simple question... Is Indian force that incompetent???
I already explained in the details ( Other threads) . Kashmir Geography and some Local support is the reason why these terrorist attacks happened by the Pakistan back terrorists. Yes we need to strengthen the security still you can't put the force at the every place.

:kp
 
Despite Pakistan spend maximum money on defence , they can't even stop the Train Hijack and now entire Highway is taken control by BLA.

As I said a few days ago Baluchistan is a vast and harsh terrain and a landmass of roughly 44% of Pakistan.

J & K is tiny in comparison with hundreds of thousands of troops and state of the art SIGiNT network along with HUMINT.

I understand your desire to bring Pakistan into every conversation but deep down you know that this is a massive intelligence failure if it originate from the LOC and if it didn't then you have insurgency brewing in Jamnu.

I have given a map and explained this elsewhere.
 
As I said a few days ago Baluchistan is a vast and harsh terrain and a landmass of roughly 44% of Pakistan.

J & K is tiny in comparison with hundreds of thousands of troops and state of the art SIGiNT network along with HUMINT.

I understand your desire to bring Pakistan into every conversation but deep down you know that this is a massive intelligence failure if it originate from the LOC and if it didn't then you have insurgency brewing in Jamnu.

I have given a map and explained this elsewhere.
Do you even know geography of kashmir. lol

In Balochistan everyday 5 to 7 attacks happened while in Kashmir terrorist attacks frequency is way way less than .

Tell me How many attacks were happened yesterday in Balochistan .

:kp
 
Indian military is overrated. They are mostly good at bullying defenseless Kashmiri civilians. :inti

There was a reason why they lost 2000 sq km of land to China since 2020.
 
Indian military is overrated. They are mostly good at bullying defenseless Kashmiri civilians. :inti

There was a reason why they lost 2000 sq km of land to China since 2020.

Sadly they've done more than bullying, some of the most heinous human abuses carried .

The large security or large numbers of troops aren't there to protect but to occupy. That's why many days later no suspect has been captured. They were likely torturing many until someone makes a confession to stop the brutality
 
Not sure how this is news given India is the largest recipient of foreign aid. India couldn't put itself on the map with all the resources so what chance will monopoly money make? Zilch. India couldn't defend itself from 30000 British troops, so what difference would Billions make? Zilch.

Indian doesn't have wealth, but has poverty in its droves and DNA.
 
800,000 troops in Kashmir, yet incidents still occur. Are they incompetent???

Guess so,
IMF and other coutnries are bailing out Pakistan forever by pouring in billions of $. Why it is still on brink of collapse, terrorism at peak and no future and still begging for more funds? Why is that?
 
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