Diamer-Bhasha and other proposed dams under construction in Pakistan

[Syed1]

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has withdrawn its request to include the $14-billion Diamer-Bhasha Dam in the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) framework after Beijing placed strict conditions including ownership of the project, said Water and Power Development Authority (Wapda) Chairman Muzammil Hussain on Tuesday.

“Chinese conditions for financing the Diamer-Bhasha Dam were not doable and against our interests,” said Hussain while briefing the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) on the status of the mega water and power project.

Tarbela Dam: Extension project nears completion
He said the Chinese conditions were about taking ownership of the project, operation and maintenance cost and securitisation of the Diamer-Bhasha project by pledging another operational dam.

These conditions were unacceptable, therefore, Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi approved a summary to finance the dam from the country’s own resources, he said.

The issue of excluding the Diamer-Bhasha Dam from the CPEC framework also featured in the Cabinet Committee on CPEC which met last week.

The Wapda chairman and the water resources secretary informed the premier that the only way out was to fund the much-delayed project from domestic resources.

The sixth meeting of the Joint Cooperation Committee (JCC) – the highest decision-making body of CPEC – had agreed to establish a mechanism to develop hydroelectric power projects along the northern side of the Indus River including the Diamer-Bhasha project, according to minutes of the deliberations.

Pakistan decided to take the dam off the table just days before the seventh JCC meeting, which is scheduled for November 21 in Islamabad. The JCC will review progress on the implementation of already approved projects and decide the fate of new schemes.

Currently, about 15 prioritised energy projects valuing at $22.4 billion and having 11,110-megawatt generation capacity are part of the CPEC framework. Among these, only two are hydroelectric power projects with cumulative capacity of 1,590MW. Most of the CPEC energy projects are based on coal.

Pakistan has been struggling to raise money from international institutions amid Indian opposition to the project. There were hopes that Pakistan may finally complete the project after including it in the CPEC framework whose worth has already swelled to $60 billion.

Ground-breaking of the Diamer-Bhasha Dam has been performed five times in the past 15 years.

Neither the World Bank and Asian Development Bank (ADB) nor China would finance the dam, therefore, the government decided to construct the reservoir from its own resources, said Water Resources Secretary Shumail Khawaja.

The Wapda chairman blamed the ADB for the delay, saying the bank first destroyed the project and later declined to provide loan. The ADB was of the view that the project was located in a disputed territory, he said.

The project will have the capacity to generate 4,500MW of electricity in addition to the storage capacity for six million acre feet of water, which the country desperately needs due to shrinking storages.

The Wapda chairman said the project cost would hover around $14 billion and the prime minister had agreed to split the scheme into dam storage and power generation.

Federal govt will treat all parts of the country equally: PM

According to the new financing plan, he said, the federal government would provide Rs30 billion per annum over the next nine years from the Public Sector Development Programme, taking total federal contribution to Rs270 billion.

Hussain said Wapda would generate 20% of equity from its own resources whereas financing for constructing power plants would be arranged from commercial sources.

Construction work on the dam site would begin next year and the government would complete it in nine years, he said. Work on the power generation site will begin two and a half years after the start of work on the dam.

The Wapda chairman said 969MW Neelum-Jhelum and 1,410MW Tarbela extension projects would be commissioned in February next year.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1558475/2-pakistan-stops-bid-include-diamer-bhasha-dam-cpec/

 

[Syed1]

China was demanding ownership of the dam which is critical for Pakistan and Pakistan said no.



Tight slap on the face of parosis who were saying Pakistan sold herself to China.

 

[Varun]

Tight slap on the face of parosis who were saying Pakistan sold herself to China.

In your world, it seems more like you want to use elements of CPEC to have a verbal go at India rather than provide any tangible benefit to Pakistan and her people.

 

[GBK_Fan]

China was demanding ownership of the dam which is critical for Pakistan and Pakistan said no.



Tight slap on the face of parosis who were saying Pakistan sold herself to China.

Isn't this why we have been criticising CPEC? Good job waking up. Now let's see if you can stay awake

 

[Syed1]

Isn't this why we have been criticising CPEC? Good job waking up. Now let's see if you can stay awake

We don't need Indian advice on Pakistan internal matter.

 

[gkb101277867]

This is all going to end badly. We should have taken a leaf out of India's book. East India Company all over again!!!

 

[gkb101277867]

In your world, it seems more like you want to use elements of CPEC to have a verbal go at India rather than provide any tangible benefit to Pakistan and her people.

I couldn't have put it better myself

 

[Syed1]

This is all going to end badly. We should have taken a leaf out of India's book. East India Company all over again!!!

Yes take the advice of the country that has been working to destroy us for the last seventy years because obviously they have our best interest at heart.

 

[Syed1]

In your world, it seems more like you want to use elements of CPEC to have a verbal go at India rather than provide any tangible benefit to Pakistan and her people.

CPEC will provide enough tangible benefit to the people of Pakistan. That is why your government is working day and night to not let it happen.

 

[gkb101277867]

Yes take the advice of the country that has been working to destroy us for the last seventy years because obviously they have our best interest at heart.

Why are you so obsessed with India. I see you all the time making anti-India posts. This is NOT about India. It's about Pakistan. Do you make all your judgements based on opposing India's viewpoint? I'm not taking the advice of anyone. I personally just feel this is all going to end badly. It's the East India company all over again. People need to wake up. Our corrupt politicians and government have just sold out our country and people.

 

[Snak3eye5]

CPEC will provide enough tangible benefit to the people of Pakistan. That is why your government is working day and night to not let it happen.

Contrary to popular beliefs believe as you may India has a ton of problems it deals with before it throws resources at trying to sabotage cpec. Sounds like a Bollywood movie. Quite frankly if one were to think sensibly India in the truest sense would want Pakistan to stand on its two feet and succeed via cpec. India has nothing to gain with Pakistan destroying itself becoming some rogue state so that its radical elements would continue to make life miserable for India who next door. A successful Pakistan would be a great ally to India which was always the original aim. If Pakistan is able to see this through then obviously less tensions would be present at the border, there would be more cricket and mutual economic trade which would only be a boon for both countries.

 

[gkb101277867]

Contrary to popular beliefs believe as you may India has a ton of problems it deals with before it throws resources at trying to sabotage cpec. Sounds like a Bollywood movie. Quite frankly if one were to think sensibly India in the truest sense would want Pakistan to stand on its two feet and succeed via cpec. India has nothing to gain with Pakistan destroying itself becoming some rogue state so that its radical elements would continue to make life miserable for India who next door. A successful Pakistan would be a great ally to India which was always the original aim. If Pakistan is able to see this through then obviously less tensions would be present at the border, there would be more cricket and mutual economic trade which would only be a boon for both countries.

Sadly some people love to live in conspiracy land and watch too many bollywood (or lollywood) movies

 

[big_gamer007]

Contrary to popular beliefs believe as you may India has a ton of problems it deals with before it throws resources at trying to sabotage cpec. Sounds like a Bollywood movie. Quite frankly if one were to think sensibly India in the truest sense would want Pakistan to stand on its two feet and succeed via cpec. India has nothing to gain with Pakistan destroying itself becoming some rogue state so that its radical elements would continue to make life miserable for India who next door. A successful Pakistan would be a great ally to India which was always the original aim. If Pakistan is able to see this through then obviously less tensions would be present at the border, there would be more cricket and mutual economic trade which would only be a boon for both countries.

Too sensible of a post for some of posters here to understand..

 

[Syed1]

Contrary to popular beliefs believe as you may India has a ton of problems it deals with before it throws resources at trying to sabotage cpec. Sounds like a Bollywood movie. Quite frankly if one were to think sensibly India in the truest sense would want Pakistan to stand on its two feet and succeed via cpec. India has nothing to gain with Pakistan destroying itself becoming some rogue state so that its radical elements would continue to make life miserable for India who next door. A successful Pakistan would be a great ally to India which was always the original aim. If Pakistan is able to see this through then obviously less tensions would be present at the border, there would be more cricket and mutual economic trade which would only be a boon for both countries.

India is no angelic country like you are trying to portray. It is not us that banned cricket and other diplomatic relations. Infact it is in India's benefit to not have CPEC succeed since that would mean Pakistani economy will remain dormant and the population will remain poor. This would also mean that the government won't have resources to allocate to the armed forced.

So you are completely wrong, it is perfectly in India's favour to not have the CPEC succeed.

 

[akki]

India is no angelic country like you are trying to portray. It is not us that banned cricket and other diplomatic relations. Infact it is in India's benefit to not have CPEC succeed since that would mean Pakistani economy will remain dormant and the population will remain poor. This would also mean that the government won't have resources to allocate to the armed forced.

So you are completely wrong, it is perfectly in India's favour to not have the CPEC succeed.

i agree with syed here little bit.it cud also be our interest in present time to see pakistan in this situations. Because untill india improves more ,till then we give example to the people supporting khalistan or other these sort of people that look at the condition of pakistan. But this doesnt mean india is responsible for pakistan's condition.
So we use pakistan as an example to let people know that secularism and democracy is best. i am not able to put better words on this issue. but i hope ypu get the point.

One may also argue what snake eye has mentioned. That cud also be the scenario. And this cud also help india as after pakistan issue solved, our politicians will have to work on more important issues then. And they wont be able to continue making our public fools.

 

[Snak3eye5]

India is no angelic country like you are trying to portray. It is not us that banned cricket and other diplomatic relations. Infact it is in India's benefit to not have CPEC succeed since that would mean Pakistani economy will remain dormant and the population will remain poor. This would also mean that the government won't have resources to allocate to the armed forced.

So you are completely wrong, it is perfectly in India's favour to not have the CPEC succeed.

You very well know the reason why indian government has banned the players from playing Pakistan in cricket and other relations. You seriously cannot look in the mirror and blame India for this.. Don't want to derail this post by talking about the obvious reasons. India has never cast the first stone and you surely know this.

 

[Syed1]

You very well know the reason why indian government has banned the players from playing Pakistan in cricket and other relations. You seriously cannot look in the mirror and blame India for this.. Don't want to derail this post by talking about the obvious reasons. India has never cast the first stone and you surely know this.

India has never cast the first stone )

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Pakistan's management and utilisation of it's water resources is pathetic. If it was included as part of CPEC at least the Chinese would have built it in a timely manner however as it stands I wouldn't be surprised if the Diamer-Bhasha project still isn't complete in 10 years time (the founding stone was laid almost 7-8 years ago).

As with many things CPEC related it's more beneficial for Pakistan to have a small % of something vs 100% of nothing.

 

[Syed1]

Pakistan's management and utilisation of it's water resources is pathetic. If it was included as part of CPEC at least the Chinese would have built it in a timely manner however as it stands I wouldn't be surprised if the Diamer-Bhasha project still isn't complete in 10 years time (the founding stone was laid almost 7-8 years ago).

As with many things CPEC related it's more beneficial for Pakistan to have a small % of something vs 100% of nothing.

There are other dams that are being built under CPEC, Pakistan just wasn't willing to give ownership of this critical dam to any other nation.

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Imran Khan has directed to immediately start the construction work of Diamer Bhasha Dam which would generate 1,6500 employment, ARY News reported on Monday.

PM Imran Khan Khan was briefed over the progress of the construction work of Diamer Bhasha Dam which was pending for decades due to different reasons.

He was apprised that the construction of the dam will generate 16,500 employment while the local industry will be promoted following the usage of cement and steel.

The country could generate 4,500 megawatts electricity from the dam and overcome the shortage of water.

Read: Construction of Mohmand and Diamer-Bhasha dams to start next year

After the construction of the dam, 1.23 million acres of land could be used for agriculture purpose. The government will spend Rs78.5 billion for the social development of the areas situated around the Diamer Bhasha Dam.

Moreover, the dam will also reduce the government’s spendings worth billions to counter the disasters of floods every year.

The premier expressed satisfaction over the progress of dam construction so far and ordered to immediately resume the construction activities.

Read: Saudi Arabia to fund Diamer-Bhasha, Mohmand Dams, other energy projects

He said that the federal government has prioritised to secure water resources and the construction of dams in Pakistan would also assist the government to overcome the power crisis.

He also ordered to prioritise utilising local material and expertise in its construction in order to promote Pakistan’s construction sector and its related industries.

Moreover, the Water and Power Development Authority (WAPDA)the chairman also briefed the progress of construction of Mohmand Dam. The premier expressed over the pace of construction work of Mohmand Dam.

https://arynews.tv/en/pm-imran-khan-diamer-bhasha-dam/

 

[Syed1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Announcing to start construction of Diamer Bhasha Dam today is historic news for all generations of Pakistan,a huge stimulus for our economy,create 16500 jobs,generate 4500 MW Hydel Power&irrigate 1.2 m acres agri land,enhance Tarbela Dam’s age by 35 yrs <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/pakistanmakingprogress?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#pakistanmakingprogress</a></p>— Asim Saleem Bajwa (@AsimSBajwa) <a href="https://twitter.com/AsimSBajwa/status/1259878337843003392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] please alter thread title to reflect start of construction

 

[Bigboii]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Announcing to start construction of Diamer Bhasha Dam today is historic news for all generations of Pakistan,a huge stimulus for our economy,create 16500 jobs,generate 4500 MW Hydel Power&irrigate 1.2 m acres agri land,enhance Tarbela Dam’s age by 35 yrs <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/pakistanmakingprogress?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#pakistanmakingprogress</a></p>— Asim Saleem Bajwa (@AsimSBajwa) <a href="https://twitter.com/AsimSBajwa/status/1259878337843003392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] please alter thread title to reflect start of construction

Civilian dictatorship is on us, this country is going to hurt us for atleast a decade

 

[last_knight]

Civilian dictatorship is on us, this country is going to hurt us for atleast a decade

Focus should be on improvement in social parameters. Any method that improves the life of people can't be wrong.

 

[Bewal Express]

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Imran Khan has directed to immediately start the construction work of Diamer Bhasha Dam which would generate 1,6500 employment, ARY News reported on Monday.

PM Imran Khan Khan was briefed over the progress of the construction work of Diamer Bhasha Dam which was pending for decades due to different reasons.

He was apprised that the construction of the dam will generate 16,500 employment while the local industry will be promoted following the usage of cement and steel.

The country could generate 4,500 megawatts electricity from the dam and overcome the shortage of water.

Read: Construction of Mohmand and Diamer-Bhasha dams to start next year

After the construction of the dam, 1.23 million acres of land could be used for agriculture purpose. The government will spend Rs78.5 billion for the social development of the areas situated around the Diamer Bhasha Dam.

Moreover, the dam will also reduce the government’s spendings worth billions to counter the disasters of floods every year.

The premier expressed satisfaction over the progress of dam construction so far and ordered to immediately resume the construction activities.

Read: Saudi Arabia to fund Diamer-Bhasha, Mohmand Dams, other energy projects

He said that the federal government has prioritised to secure water resources and the construction of dams in Pakistan would also assist the government to overcome the power crisis.

He also ordered to prioritise utilising local material and expertise in its construction in order to promote Pakistan’s construction sector and its related industries.

Moreover, the Water and Power Development Authority (WAPDA)the chairman also briefed the progress of construction of Mohmand Dam. The premier expressed over the pace of construction work of Mohmand Dam.

https://arynews.tv/en/pm-imran-khan-diamer-bhasha-dam/

Excellent news. It should have been done 2 decades ago.

 

[Bigboii]

Where's the money for dam collected by former CJP

 

[Abdullah719]

Where's the money for dam collected by former CJP

 

[Bewal Express]

Where's the money for dam collected by chotu former CJP

Maybe you should not reading the propoganda of crooks that got disqualified by the SC and do some research. Your "democracy" is not ours.

 

[Bigboii]

thanks for sharing

 

[Abdullah719]

Rs442bn accord for construction of Diamer-Bhasha dam signed

ISLAMABAD: The government on Wednesday signed a Rs442 billion contract with a joint venture of China Power and Frontier Works Organisation (FWO) for the construction of the Diamer-Bhasha dam.

The Chinese state-run firm holds 70 per cent and the FWO, a commercial arm of the Armed Forces of Pakistan, 30pc share in the consortium. The contract covers construction of a diversion system, main dam, access bridge and the 21MW Tangir hydropower project.

The eight million acre feet (MAF) reservoir with 272-metre height will be the tallest roller compact concrete (RCC) dam in the world. It will have a spillway, 14 gates and five outlets for flushing out silt. The diversion system involves two tunnels and a diversion canal — all three having one kilometre length each. The bridge — a box girder structure — under the contract will be constructed downstream of the dam structure while the 21MW power plant will be built to meet energy requirements of the project during construction.

Spoiler

Prime Minister Imran Khan was briefed on the progress of the project a couple of days ago. The construction work on dam will begin in a couple of weeks.

Diamer-Bhasha dam project chief executive officer Amir Bashir Chaudhry and authorised representative of China Power Yang Jiandu signed the agreement on behalf of the Water and Power Development Authority (Wapda) and the joint venture, respectively. Water Resources Minister Faisal Vawda, Chinese Ambassador Yao Jing, Water Resources Secretary Mohammad Ashraf, Wapda chairman retired Lt Gen Muzammil Hussain, Pakistan Army engineer-in-chief Lt Gen Moazzam Ejaz and FWO director general Maj Gen Kamal Azfar attended the signing ceremony.

The Wapda chairman expressed the hope that the Diamer-Bhasha dam would be completed as per the timelines to cope with the increasing water and electricity requirements of the country. The dam project with a total financial outlay of about Rs1,406.5bn would be completed in 2028, he said.

The total financial outlay includes land acquisition and resettlement, confidence building measures for social uplift of the local people, construction of dam and power houses.

Gen Hussain said the project would have a gross storage capacity of 8.1 MAF and power generation capacity of 4,500MW, with an annual generation of 18.1bn units. However, the electromechanical and power generation project would be taken up separately at a later stage.

Wapda has already awarded a Rs27.182bn contract for dam’s consultancy services to Diamer-Bhasha Consultants Group (DBCG). The consultancy agreement includes construction design, construction supervision and contract administration of the dam project.

The DBCG joint venture comprises 12 top-ranked national and foreign consulting firms — Nespak (Pakistan), Associate Consulting Engineers (Pakistan), Mott MacDonald Pakistan, Poyry (Switzerland), Montgomery Watson and Harza (MWH) International-Stantec (USA), Dolsar Engineering (Turkey), Mott McDonald International (England), China Water Resources Beifang Investigation, Design and Research Company (China), Mirza Associates Engineering Services (Pakistan), Al-Kasib Group of Engineering Services (Pakistan), Development Management Consultant (Pakistan) and MWH Pakistan, with Nespak as the lead firm. These firms have a vast experience of providing consultancy services for mega water projects the world over.

The Council of Common Interests (CCI) had approved the project for construction in 2010, but it suffered delays because of international lending agencies which remained associated with the project but later backtracked because of opposition from India. The government has already spent about Rs170bn on the project since then on land acquisition and other expenses. In view of the lenders’ resistance, it was decided about four years ago to divide the multi-purpose project into two major components — Rs650bn worth of dam project to be constructed with the public sector funds and Rs750bn worth of power project most probably to be developed in independent power producer (IPP) mode at a later stage.

The core project development (dam structure) alone is estimated to cost almost Rs270bn. The project offers a very attractive internal economic return of 15.7pc even at a 12pc discount rate, according to project documents.

The project is designed to serve as the main storage dam of the country, besides Mangla and Tarbela dams, and its storage would be helpful for alleviating flood losses. The dam will have a 6.4 MAF usable water storage capacity.

The project is estimated to help alleviate acute irrigation shortage in the Indus basin irrigation system caused by progressive siltation of the existing reservoirs, besides substantially contributing to reduce intensity, quantum and duration of floods and reduce magnitude and frequency of floods in the River Indus downstream.

The project will also have trickledown effects on all sectors of the economy by accelerating development and creating job opportunities, besides improving availability of water and clean energy. The completion of the dam would increase the country’s storage capacity from 30 to 48 days and make power generation facilities an attractive future investment by the private sector to add 4,500MW of additional electricity to the national grid.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1556951/rs442bn-accord-for-construction-of-diamer-bhasha-dam-signed

 

[Bewal Express]

We need to build the Kalabagh dam. It should have been built 40 years ago.

 

[IndianHero]

Good project. It seems it will be generate 4,500 MW after its completion which is good one.

Dams are not doubt expensive but they serve multiple benefits right from irrigating agricultural lands to generating electricity.

 

[Syed1]

Currently there are many small projects under construction and a handful of large ones such as Suki Kunari, Karot, Mohmand and Bhasha. Then Dasu and Kohala are expected to start this year or next. Inshallah by 2030 we would again be ready for take off just like 1960s hope we don't get another Bhutto and Zia.

 

[Local.Dada]

Is this the same dam for which the funds were collected for? As per the article posted by Abdullah above it says it is sourced 70% to China and 30% to a commercial organization belonging to the army. If my math is correct that adds up to 100%.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Yes. Funded mainly by China.

 

[Syed1]

Yes. Funded mainly by China.

Did you see a copy of the contract and that's why you are speaking with such confidence? Why do you Indians have such big mouths even when it doesn't concern you?


A Rs 450b contract was signed yesterday... The WAPDA chairman in an interview said the government is financing about 300 off it and is not a biggie since it is spread over several years. 150 is coming from WAPDA itself and by bonds it will float. This is just the dam part, the power generation part will be a separate contract and it will be on IPP basis meaning a private power producer will invest the money and sell electricity to government of Pakistan at agreed upon rate for a set number of years. That contract will be about Rs 700b of private/foreign investment. It should be noted that the government of Pakistan has already invested Rs 170b in land acquisition. As for the power generation part as was the experience with Tarbela dam foreign investors fall over each other to participate in the power gen portion once the dam is completed.



Besides even if every single cent was coming from China, it is none of yours or any Indians concern.

 

[Local.Dada]

Did you see a copy of the contract and that's why you are speaking with such confidence? Why do you Indians have such big mouths even when it doesn't concern you?


A Rs 450b contract was signed yesterday... The WAPDA chairman in an interview said the government is financing about 300 off it and is not a biggie since it is spread over several years. 150 is coming from WAPDA itself and by bonds it will float. This is just the dam part, the power generation part will be a separate contract and it will be on IPP basis meaning a private power producer will invest the money and sell electricity to government of Pakistan at agreed upon rate for a set number of years. That contract will be about Rs 700b of private/foreign investment. It should be noted that the government of Pakistan has already invested Rs 170b in land acquisition. As for the power generation part as was the experience with Tarbela dam foreign investors fall over each other to participate in the power gen portion once the dam is completed.



Besides even if every single cent was coming from China, it is none of yours or any Indians concern.

Money coming from China is definitely a concern as China is India’s genuine threat and having somewhat of a rival country funding and pumping money in a country closer in proximity especially in Pakistan which is also hostile towards India is a huge matter of concern. This isn’t about who is strong or weak but just a matter of the logistics.

Anyways that wasn’t at all the intent here.

All I was asking for is Funds were collected to build a dam and if those were being used here.

If they are then what is the need to outsource to China because Pakistan has labor and I am sure the technical capabilities like Engineers etc and materials can be imported, so didn’t get the 70-30 Math.

Also China a country known for not doing anything unless they can benefit by a huge margin, whats in it for them.

Anyway it is not a problem if I am dumb in this matter because I have no stake in this but people who actually have a stake in this need to be asking the questions.

 

[Bewal Express]

The Indian guys are very agitated.

 

[Local.Dada]

The Indian guys are very agitated.

the word you used starts with the right letter but a for amusing not agitated. Now I am not sure if you can explain why you used the word agitated but I can definitely tell you the reason for why this is amusing.

As I mentioned above sure, China spreading its power in the subcontinent is a matter of concern for India which is trying to be a major player in Asia as well especially in the South Asian region if it isn’t already a major power player in that region. Anyways that’s a debate for another day and I don’t want to go down that path.

However instead of getting mad at indians or what they think about this I don’t see any logical explanation for this.

If Dam funds were collected with money of the Pakistani people then why is China involved here and even if they are, how come they have 70% Stake. You should be more concerned about the numbers here than being concerned about what indians think about it.

Anyways this isn’t an argument or a debate, if you can make sense of this whole charade then you are free to explain and if it makes sense, I am more than willing to change my opinion.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

[MENTION=151383]Local.Dada[/MENTION] seems like you may be a tool just not the sharpest.
To make it easier for you the relevant sections are in bold:

Rs442bn accord for construction of Diamer-Bhasha dam signed

ISLAMABAD: The government on Wednesday signed a Rs442 billion contract with a joint venture of China Power and Frontier Works Organisation (FWO) for the construction of the Diamer-Bhasha dam.

The Chinese state-run firm holds 70 per cent and the FWO, a commercial arm of the Armed Forces of Pakistan, 30pc share in the consortium. The contract covers construction of a diversion system, main dam, access bridge and the 21MW Tangir hydropower project.


... The dam project with a total financial outlay of about Rs1,406.5bn would be completed in 2028, he said.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1556951/rs442bn-accord-for-construction-of-diamer-bhasha-dam-signed

If they are then what is the need to outsource to China because Pakistan has labor and I am sure the technical capabilities like Engineers etc and materials can be imported, so didn’t get the 70-30 Math.

Obviously comprehension is not your strong point or maybe you started salivating at China, Pakistan, mega project and jumped on your high horse without a second thought.

As I mentioned above sure, China spreading its power in the subcontinent is a matter of concern for India which is trying to be a major player in Asia as well especially in the South Asian region if it isn’t already a major power player in that region. Anyways that’s a debate for another day and I don’t want to go down that path.

First, why would Pakistan give a flying fish about India?? To top it off your delusional if you think India can ever match China as a power in any way.

 

[Local.Dada]

[MENTION=151383]Local.Dada[/MENTION] seems like you may be a tool just not the sharpest.
To make it easier for you the relevant sections are in bold:






Obviously comprehension is not your strong point or maybe you started salivating at China, Pakistan, mega project and jumped on your high horse without a second thought.



First, why would Pakistan give a flying fish about India?? To top it off your delusional if you think India can ever match China as a power in any way.

I am not clever in these matters, I just wanted a better breakdown to understand,

You seem to have the answers and the numbers seem to make sense to you, so I will leave you quarantined with your own genius self for now.

All I was asking is if the entire end to end costs of 1406 bn is from the fund raise?

If the fund raise is covering the entire cost then what is this 442b contract awarded, The breakdown is 70-30 so if this is the Pakistani public money why is it being awarded to China who will bring in their own human resource for this, I mean why is the Pakistan public paying for it?

If it was an individual contract between the government it can outsource it to whom ever they want, isn’t the public money a little bit more accountable.

Yes I am not sharp in these matters, so imagine you are explaining the economics of this to a 5th grader, absolutely no shame admitting that in this matter , Now Go!!!

 

[Syed1]

[MENTION=151383]Local.Dada[/MENTION] seems like you may be a tool just not the sharpest.
To make it easier for you the relevant sections are in bold:






Obviously comprehension is not your strong point or maybe you started salivating at China, Pakistan, mega project and jumped on your high horse without a second thought.



First, why would Pakistan give a flying fish about India?? To top it off your delusional if you think India can ever match China as a power in any way.

LOL this loser thinks Pakistan will even give any consideration to India's concern..

 

[Syed1]

I am not clever in these matters, I just wanted a better breakdown to understand,

You seem to have the answers and the numbers seem to make sense to you, so I will leave you quarantined with your own genius self for now.

All I was asking is if the entire end to end costs of 1406 bn is from the fund raise?

If the fund raise is covering the entire cost then what is this 442b contract awarded, The breakdown is 70-30 so if this is the Pakistani public money why is it being awarded to China who will bring in their own human resource for this, I mean why is the Pakistan public paying for it?

If it was an individual contract between the government it can outsource it to whom ever they want, isn’t the public money a little bit more accountable.

Yes I am not sharp in these matters, so imagine you are explaining the economics of this to a 5th grader, absolutely no shame admitting that in this matter , Now Go!!!

I've broken it down multiple times for you but you do not seem to be the smartest guy around. Let me make it even easier for you and in small enough pieces.


1. The donation drive was only meant to raise awareness for need for dams and not fund them completely
2. It raised Rs 13b which is invested now and will be used at the end of the project when the investment would have grown more
3. The total project cost is about 1,400b
4. It is split into two parts: dam and power gen
5. The construction of dam part is about Rs 450b and contract was signed yesterday
6. An additional amount of 200b has already been spent for land acquisition.
7. Off the 450b government is investing about 300b and it is spread out over a few years hence easy to manage
8. 150b is being raised by Water and Power Development Authority (WAPDA) the main power dev agency in Pak
9. The power generation part will be by a private investor, basically they will invest money to generate power and then sell that power to government at agreed rate
10. The power gen portion will start after dam is constructed
11. Power generation portion will cost 700b or more but won't cost any money for the government


I hope this is easy enough for even someone like you to understand. Not sure why Pakistan progressing causes Indians to have their knickers in a twist.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

I am not clever in these matters, I just wanted a better breakdown to understand,

You seem to have the answers and the numbers seem to make sense to you, so I will leave you quarantined with your own genius self for now.

All I was asking is if the entire end to end costs of 1406 bn is from the fund raise?

If the fund raise is covering the entire cost then what is this 442b contract awarded, The breakdown is 70-30 so if this is the Pakistani public money why is it being awarded to China who will bring in their own human resource for this, I mean why is the Pakistan public paying for it?

If it was an individual contract between the government it can outsource it to whom ever they want, isn’t the public money a little bit more accountable.

Yes I am not sharp in these matters, so imagine you are explaining the economics of this to a 5th grader, absolutely no shame admitting that in this matter , Now Go!!!

It’s got nothing to do with being a genius, clever or having economic insight in these matters as all the answers were in the article posted above.
Shame you didn’t take the opportunity to make sense of the article before mindlessly attacking your keyboard.

 

[finalfantasy7]

Is this below Indian news channel correct regarding the dam partly being built on indian soil:

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[Thunderbolt14]

[MENTION=151383]Local.Dada[/MENTION] you asked some very reasonable questions that I myself had as a Pakistani.

 

[Local.Dada]

I've broken it down multiple times for you but you do not seem to be the smartest guy around. Let me make it even easier for you and in small enough pieces.

2. It raised Rs 13b which is invested now and will be used at the end of the project when the investment would have grown more
3. The total project cost is about 1,400b.

Well unless this is a typo what purpose does raising 13b from public in a project costing 1400b Serve?

So after all that hype the dam funds collected is not even 1% of the total cost.

What is the point of that I mean when you can afford 1400 or borrow from Chinese whatever the case, might as well could have raised an additional 13b

Anyways I still think it is a typo.

Also raising funds to bring awareness, usually the concept of driving a point works the other way. You spend money to bring awareness

 

[Bewal Express]

the word you used starts with the right letter but a for amusing not agitated. Now I am not sure if you can explain why you used the word agitated but I can definitely tell you the reason for why this is amusing.

As I mentioned above sure, China spreading its power in the subcontinent is a matter of concern for India which is trying to be a major player in Asia as well especially in the South Asian region if it isn’t already a major power player in that region. Anyways that’s a debate for another day and I don’t want to go down that path.

However instead of getting mad at indians or what they think about this I don’t see any logical explanation for this.

If Dam funds were collected with money of the Pakistani people then why is China involved here and even if they are, how come they have 70% Stake. You should be more concerned about the numbers here than being concerned about what indians think about it.

Anyways this isn’t an argument or a debate, if you can make sense of this whole charade then you are free to explain and if it makes sense, I am more than willing to change my opinion.

Let's face you are no competition for China, they are a superpower, you are a poor country begging others to take your workers.

 

[Local.Dada]

Let's face you are no competition for China, they are a superpower, you are a poor country begging others to take your workers.

Not sure why you are attacking me or India.

Let me tell you a story. When I was a kid growing up in Mumbai in the early 90's I used to go to this barber regularly who used to charge Rs.20 back then (Yes young gen z guys, back then you could get a lot done for 20 INR) .Anyways a few feet away from that shop,was another fancy barber shop (huge deal in those days for saloons as we call them in our part of the world to have a Air conditioning and they would even shampoo your hair for you with "imported" shampoo" and that was a big deal) and had all these fancy hair styles on their menu .They used to charge 50 bucks and this is were all the filthy rich kids or the cool kids went for a hair cut.

I asked my parents a few times but they always felt and rightfully so thinking back now as a responsible adult, that it was a waste of money to spend so much on a stupid haircut. However one day I happened to catch my dad in a good mood and he just gave me the 50 bucks for the haircut no questions asked.

I had a couple of things going through my head, should I get the 50 buck Haircut or should I go to my regular guy and save the 30 bucks for myself and party with my friends( again 30 bucks got you far in the early-mid 90's). Anyways on my way to the hair saloon I saw this miserable old guy begging. He was always in the same spot. People used to say he lived a good life in the past before he turned to begging. So I had this moment of compassion and I decided to give the guy 10 bucks (a huge amount by those days standards to give as charity).

I go for my haircut and then on my way back what do I see, this guy bought himself some liquor either with my 10 bucks or maybe the 10 bucks I gave him fulfilled his budget to make the purchase not sure. Anyways,now I am feeling guilty. Will this guy go home drunk and beat up his wife/kids? will he kill himself consuming the cheap liquor that I may have bought for him indirectly etc? My charity without thinking it through might have caused more damage than had I not given him the money. I would have probably felt less guilty of cheating my parents off the 30 bucks then maybe potentially ruining this man's life or people around him with my charitable act.

Since that day I make it a point to either be in a position where I completely understand the problem and I can directly contribute and help to fix it or I have full faith in the person doing the charity and I am confident it will reach the end goal as promised.

There is a famous quote to summarize what I said, I am just giving you a gist so it may not sound as poetic as what was originally written but it says, Lending your only sword to someone and exposing your self to threat is stupidity, Lending an extra sword you have to a person in need to protect himself is charity but if you just give away your extra sword without thinking through and the person goes and kills off innocent folk than you are equally responsible in the crime.

Since you seem to be a patriotic I am assuming you made a significant donation to the dam, I don't know about you but usually if it is hard earned money you will start feeling anxious if it is not being put to use as expected, if you haven't made a donation than self-explanatory we have nothing to talk about here.

So if you made a donation, your beef shouldn't be with me. You want to argue about India and it's economy, lets take it elsewhere.

 

[Bewal Express]

Not sure why you are attacking me or India.

Let me tell you a story. When I was a kid growing up in Mumbai in the early 90's I used to go to this barber regularly who used to charge Rs.20 back then (Yes young gen z guys, back then you could get a lot done for 20 INR) .Anyways a few feet away from that shop,was another fancy barber shop (huge deal in those days for saloons as we call them in our part of the world to have a Air conditioning and they would even shampoo your hair for you with "imported" shampoo" and that was a big deal) and had all these fancy hair styles on their menu .They used to charge 50 bucks and this is were all the filthy rich kids or the cool kids went for a hair cut.

I asked my parents a few times but they always felt and rightfully so thinking back now as a responsible adult, that it was a waste of money to spend so much on a stupid haircut. However one day I happened to catch my dad in a good mood and he just gave me the 50 bucks for the haircut no questions asked.

I had a couple of things going through my head, should I get the 50 buck Haircut or should I go to my regular guy and save the 30 bucks for myself and party with my friends( again 30 bucks got you far in the early-mid 90's). Anyways on my way to the hair saloon I saw this miserable old guy begging. He was always in the same spot. People used to say he lived a good life in the past before he turned to begging. So I had this moment of compassion and I decided to give the guy 10 bucks (a huge amount by those days standards to give as charity).

I go for my haircut and then on my way back what do I see, this guy bought himself some liquor either with my 10 bucks or maybe the 10 bucks I gave him fulfilled his budget to make the purchase not sure. Anyways,now I am feeling guilty. Will this guy go home drunk and beat up his wife/kids? will he kill himself consuming the cheap liquor that I may have bought for him indirectly etc? My charity without thinking it through might have caused more damage than had I not given him the money. I would have probably felt less guilty of cheating my parents off the 30 bucks then maybe potentially ruining this man's life or people around him with my charitable act.

Since that day I make it a point to either be in a position where I completely understand the problem and I can directly contribute and help to fix it or I have full faith in the person doing the charity and I am confident it will reach the end goal as promised.

There is a famous quote to summarize what I said, I am just giving you a gist so it may not sound as poetic as what was originally written but it says, Lending your only sword to someone and exposing your self to threat is stupidity, Lending an extra sword you have to a person in need to protect himself is charity but if you just give away your extra sword without thinking through and the person goes and kills off innocent folk than you are equally responsible in the crime.

Since you seem to be a patriotic I am assuming you made a significant donation to the dam, I don't know about you but usually if it is hard earned money you will start feeling anxious if it is not being put to use as expected, if you haven't made a donation than self-explanatory we have nothing to talk about here.

So if you made a donation, your beef shouldn't be with me. You want to argue about India and it's economy, lets take it elsewhere.

Thanks but no thanks for your advice on dams. Its just that Indians are so hurt when we do something, they flood the websites with fake names and tell us how bad our mistakes will be. If you dont believe me, look at the Dawn site.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

^^ [MENTION=151383]Local.Dada[/MENTION] Please correct me if I’m wrong but you are the one that attached India’s super power aspirations to this issue no one else did. Now that you are getting replies to your absurdity you want to jettison the topic. How convenient!!

The Dam fund was started to contribute to the construction of the dam - the construction of the dam is now happening. What are trying to point out with your fable?

 

[Abdullah719]

China ignores India over dam project in Pakistani Kashmir

KARACHI -- In a move that has seriously displeased India and tightened ecomomic relations with China, Pakistan has awarded a contract to a Chinese-Pakistani joint venture to build a dam in the long-disputed Kashmir region.

The initial phase of the Diamer Bhasha dam project, worth 442 billion Pakistan rupees ($2.75 billion), has been awarded to a joint venture between Power Construction Corporation of China and the Pakistan Army's Frontier Works Organization on a 70:30 basis.

The project is located in Gilgit-Baltistan, a northerly region 320km from the border with China. The multipurpose dam will be used for power generation, water storage and flood control. It will have a 4,500 megawatt capacity and storage for 8.1 million acre feet of water.

The dam is China's first major infrastructure project in Kashmir, and part of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), which is tied into China's massive Belt and Road Initiative.

Spoiler

In 2018, China installed an 820km fiber optic cable under CPEC that cost $37.4 million and passed through the same region.

Muzammil Hussain, chairman of Pakistan's Water and Power Development Authority (WAPDA), said his organization will provide 30% of the investment and the government of Pakistan the rest. Hussain put the total cost of the project at 1.497 trillion rupees ($8.77 billion).

The figure is contentious, however, since Hussain previously estimated the cost at about $14 billion on various occasions.

Pakistan is certainly in a financial crunch and would be unable to self-finance the project. Only last week, the government diverted $6.23 million from a COVID-19 relief fund to pay interest on energy debts.

James M. Dorsey, a senior fellow at Singapore's S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies (RSIS), believes that China will fund the project through loans to Pakistan, but how these will be repaid remains to be seen. Dorsey told the Nikkei Asian Review that the project will serve China's interests more than Pakistan's because "China has the upper hand in bargaining due to its economic support to Pakistan under [CPEC]."

Some observers believe Pakistan is keen to get the dam built quickly and willing to leave financing concerns until later. "There's no indication that Islamabad has thought through how it will cover these immense costs," Michael Kugelman, deputy director of the Asia program at the Wilson Center in Washington D.C., told Nikkei. "Or if it has thought things through, it hasn't released its plan to the public."

"Since [Islamabad] will have few other funder options, it won't have much leverage with China in terms of the structuring of a potential loan," Kugelman said.

In November 2017, Pakistan pulled the dam proposal out of CPEC because of Beijing's conditions, which included owning the project. Islamabad's earlier requests to other funding sources, including the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank in 2016, were turned down because of the longstanding hostility between India and Pakistan over Kashmir.

India immediately condemned the latest development. "We have consistently conveyed our protest and shared concerns with both China and Pakistan on all such projects in the Indian territories under Pakistan's illegal occupation," Shri Anurag Srivastava, the official spokesperson of India's Ministry of External Affairs said in a statement.

Beijing dismissed the Indian protest. Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Lijian Zhao described the dam as mutually beneficial with win-win potential. "China's position on the issue of Kashmir is consistent," said Zhao."China and Pakistan conduct economic cooperation to promote economic development and improve the well-being of the local people."

Observers doubt that India's dismay will impede the project. "India cannot use diplomatic pressure to stop work on this project because world attention is toward the coronavirus pandemic," said Dorsey.

"New Delhi has long opposed the Belt and Road Initiative because of its intended projects in disputed areas, including Gilgit-Baltistan, and that certainly hasn't stopped Pakistan and China," said Kugelman. "The same applies to the dam."

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/B...s-India-over-dam-project-in-Pakistani-Kashmir

 

[Syed1]

Suki Kinari and Karot both steadily progressing towards completion.. Dasu will be done in 2024. Mohmand in 2026 (iirc) and Daimer-Basha in 2028.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Work on 874 MW Suki Kinari-KP Hydel Power Project in full swing,progress unaffected by COVID-19,50% project completed. At Kunhar River,with an investment of $ 1.963 Bn,has created 4250 jobs.Bringing cost of electricity down is top priority <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cpec?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#cpec</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cpecmakingprogress?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#cpecmakingprogress</a> <a href="https://t.co/2bcqR4Ch5R">pic.twitter.com/2bcqR4Ch5R</a></p>— Asim Saleem Bajwa (@AsimSBajwa) <a href="https://twitter.com/AsimSBajwa/status/1265557746033852417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Bewal Express]

Well unless this is a typo what purpose does raising 13b from public in a project costing 1400b Serve?

So after all that hype the dam funds collected is not even 1% of the total cost.

What is the point of that I mean when you can afford 1400 or borrow from Chinese whatever the case, might as well could have raised an additional 13b

Anyways I still think it is a typo.

Also raising funds to bring awareness, usually the concept of driving a point works the other way. You spend money to bring awareness

As explained before by others, the money raised is a small part of the bigger part of raising awareness. After the CJP campaign, there was a new urgency, and within a year the work has started.

 

[Bewal Express]

Suki Kinari and Karot both steadily progressing towards completion.. Dasu will be done in 2024. Mohmand in 2026 (iirc) and Daimer-Basha in 2028.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Work on 874 MW Suki Kinari-KP Hydel Power Project in full swing,progress unaffected by COVID-19,50% project completed. At Kunhar River,with an investment of $ 1.963 Bn,has created 4250 jobs.Bringing cost of electricity down is top priority <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cpec?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#cpec</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cpecmakingprogress?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#cpecmakingprogress</a> <a href="https://t.co/2bcqR4Ch5R">pic.twitter.com/2bcqR4Ch5R</a></p>— Asim Saleem Bajwa (@AsimSBajwa) <a href="https://twitter.com/AsimSBajwa/status/1265557746033852417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just imagine if the $64bn borrowed by the crooks had been spent on the dams, we would have something tangible to show rather crappy metros.

 

[Greenstorm]

Suki Kinari and Karot both steadily progressing towards completion.. Dasu will be done in 2024. Mohmand in 2026 (iirc) and Daimer-Basha in 2028.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Work on 874 MW Suki Kinari-KP Hydel Power Project in full swing,progress unaffected by COVID-19,50% project completed. At Kunhar River,with an investment of $ 1.963 Bn,has created 4250 jobs.Bringing cost of electricity down is top priority <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cpec?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#cpec</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cpecmakingprogress?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#cpecmakingprogress</a> <a href="https://t.co/2bcqR4Ch5R">pic.twitter.com/2bcqR4Ch5R</a></p>— Asim Saleem Bajwa (@AsimSBajwa) <a href="https://twitter.com/AsimSBajwa/status/1265557746033852417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Progress is amazing compared to our usual standards. CPEC has turned out to be a proper 'naimat' for us. Just look at the highways and motorways built over the last 5 years.

Coal/LNG based power plants are the only downside to CPEC. We should have directed more Chinese investment towards wind turbines. Anyways, CPEC will transform this country over the next decade.

 

[Abdullah719]

Contractors moving to Diamer-Bhasha Dam site

The Diamer-Bhasha Dam contactors have started mobilising to the project site and its construction will start soon, the participants of a meeting held at the Water and Power Development Authority (Wapda) Complex were informed on Wednesday.

Federal Water Resources Minister Faisal Vawda presided over the meeting to review the implementation plan of the project. The other participants included Wapda Chairman Lt Gen (retd) Muzammil Hussain, member (water) and project general manager Amir Bashir Chaudhry, consultants and contractors .

Vawda expressed his satisfaction over the pace of the project despite the Covid-19 pandemic slowing down routine activities.

The minister noted that following the signing of the project’s contract last month, work was continuing at a good pace that reflected the government’s commitment to the construction of mega dams to avert the looming water crisis in the country and add low-cost hydel electricity to the national grid.

The minister directed the consultants and contractors to adhere to the timelines specified in the plan so that the project could be completed in time.

Spoiler

The Wapda chairman, dilating upon the construction schedule, briefed about the major milestones of the implementation plan.

He informed the meeting that the contactors had been mobilising to the site after the signing of the contract last month while the construction of the dam would start soon.

He added that the work on the infrastructure development in the project area was being carried out at a good pace.

The chairman said Wapda was committed to completing the dam in accordance with the stipulated time frame.

The dam will not only help generate low-cost hydel electricity for the economic development of the country, but also provide water to the agricultural sector and mitigate floods.

The project has a gross storage capacity of 8.1million acre feet (MAF) and power generation capacity of 4,500 megawatt (MW), with an annual generation of 18.1 billion units per annum. The construction of the project will enhance life of Tarbela Dam by 35 years.

Last month, an agreement worth Rs442 billion with a joint venture of Power China and Frontier Works Organisation (FWO) was signed on Wednesday for the construction of the Diamer-Bhasha Dam.

It included a diversion system, the main dam, an access bridge and a 21-megawatt Tangir hydroelectric power project.

Wapda has already awarded the contract for consultancy services for the Diamer-Bhasha dam worth Rs27.182 billion to Diamer-Bhasha Consultants Group (DBCG). The consultancy agreement includes construction design, construction supervision and contract administration for the project. The DBCG joint venture comprises 12 top-ranked national and foreign consulting firms.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2249779/1-contractors-moving-diamer-bhasha-dam-site/

 

[finalfantasy7]

is this the dam which is predicting to take 4 yrs to be finished

 

[Abdullah719]

1,124 MW Kohala Hydro Power Project will help generate job opportunities: PM

(Karachi) Prime Minister Imran Khan has said that 1,124 MW Kohala Hydro Power Project will help generate job opportunities in Azad Jammu and Kashmir.

Addressing the participants after signing ceremony of an agreement for setting up of Kohala Hydro Power Project in Islamabad on Thursday, he said the 2.5 billion dollar project will be eco-friendly. "Electricity produced through imported fuel makes electricity costly and it also has negative impacts on the environment," the PM maintained.

He highlighted that the government is focused to provide clean and affordable energy to people, and this project will largely contribute to this objective.

Kohala Project is part of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). The 1,124 MW project is being developed by Kohala Hydropower Company Private Limited.

China Three Gorges Cooperation, IFC and Silk Road Fund are sponsors of the project under the Policy for Power Generation Projects 2002 on a built, own, operate and transfer (BOOT) basis.

https://www.brecorder.com/news/4000...oject-will-help-generate-job-opportunities-pm

 

[Bewal Express]

Some excellent work is being done. No Dam is completed on time, but even if it takes an extra year, I would be happy.

 

[Syed1]

Pakistan signs $2.4bn agreement for 1,124MW Kohala Hydropower Project

ISLAMABAD: A tripartite agreement was signed on Thursday between a Chinese company and the governments of Pakistan and China for the construction of the 1,124-megawatt (MW) Kohala Hydropower Project costing $2.4 billion.

The signing ceremony was held at the Prime Minister (PM) Office in Islamabad and was witnessed by PM Imran Khan, Azad Jammu and Kashmir Prime Minister Raja Farooq Haider, federal cabinet members, Chinese Ambassador in Pakistan Yao Jing, China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) Authority Chairman Asim Saleem Bajwa and representatives of the concerned Chinese company.

The $2.4 billion Kohala Hydropower Project is Pakistan’s largest power sector investment in a single Independent Power Producer (IPP) till date.

The project is being built on River Jhelum in Azad Kashmir under CPEC and has been awarded to Kohala Hydropower Company Ltd (KHCL), which is a subsidiary of China Three Gorges Corporation (CTGC).

Addressing the signing ceremony, Prime Minister Imran Khan said that the Kohala Hydropower Power Project was the biggest ever investment in Pakistan on a single project.

He added that the project can potentially initiate a move towards clean energy and Pakistan’s dependence on imported fuel.

He said that the country was progressing well when it had been producing hydropower until it started banking on imported fuel which not only made the local industry uncompetitive but also put additional burden on foreign reserves.

The prime minister said that power generation through imported fuel also adversely impacted the environment as Pakistan was among the top nine countries worst hit by climate change which necessitated the promotion of clean energy.

The prime minister informed that the project would also create much-needed jobs through its construction and later through its operation.

https://profit.pakistantoday.com.pk...eement-for-1124mw-kohala-hydro-power-project/

 

[Syed1]

Love how IK prefers to speak in Urdu even when foreigners are there. Reminds me of German Chancellor



Unlike a certain leader whose English skills are laughable but still tries to speak it )

 

[Syed1]

So Mohmand, Daimer, Dasu, Karot and Suki Kinari are under construction. While Kohala is signed now so will start in a few months. Next up is Azad Pattan.

 

[Mueez]

Love how IK prefers to speak in Urdu even when foreigners are there. Reminds me of German Chancellor



Unlike a certain leader whose English skills are laughable but still tries to speak it )

Absolutely love it! There is no shame in talking in your native language.

It are those “elite” people of Pakistan who are ashamed when they hear their PM talking in Urdu.

We should be proud of our language.

 

[saeedhk]

This is good news. I hope the construction goes ahead right away!

 

[Zeshan547]

credit where due, let's hope all such projects get done in due time and budget.

 

[Syed1]

So Dasu, Daimer-Basha and Mohmand started by this government. Agreement signed for Kohala last week. Karot and Suki Kinari under construction (credit to PML-N government). Now today signed agreement for Azad Pattan. The speed with which this government is moving is amazing.

 

[Syed1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CPEC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CPEC</a> makes another milestone achievement;PM will grace the signing ceremony of Azad Pattan Hydel power Project today with China Gezhouba.With an investment of $ 1.5 Bn-no fuel import,we move towards cheaper&greener power.(Design Model Pics) <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cpec?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#cpec</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CPECMakingProgress?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CPECMakingProgress</a> <a href="https://t.co/L9U2OOGxV2">pic.twitter.com/L9U2OOGxV2</a></p>— Asim Saleem Bajwa (@AsimSBajwa) <a href="https://twitter.com/AsimSBajwa/status/1279992596849401857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Syed1]

Request to mods to make this an all encompassing dams thread since we have posted news on here related to all dams and not just Basha. If possible, merge this thread as well:


http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-1-124MW-Kohala-Hydropower-Project&highlight=

 

[Syed1]

So Dasu, Daimer-Basha and Mohmand started by this government. Agreement signed for Kohala last week. Karot and Suki Kinari under construction (credit to PML-N government). Now today signed agreement for Azad Pattan. The speed with which this government is moving is amazing.

That's 7 dams/HPP totaling 13,000 MW all to come online between 2025-2030.



Now if he manages to make a start on 7,000 MW Bunji dam that'll be great too

 

[Thunderbolt14]

That's 7 dams/HPP totaling 13,000 MW all to come online between 2025-2030.



Now if he manages to make a start on 7,000 MW Bunji dam that'll be great too

Would be disappointing if IK is voted out and the next govt takes credit during that time period

 

[Bewal Express]

Would be disappointing if IK is voted out and the next govt takes credit during that time period

These things happen but I think all educated people will know the truth and as long PK benefits, it doesn't matter. The will quite literally be the lifeblood of PK with uncertainty over of how climatic changes will PK. I just hope the Kaptaan takes the plunge and builds the Kalabagh dam. It is due to the badniyaati of our ruling class that it hasn't been built.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PM AJK & CEOs of China Three Gorges & China Gezhouba visited separately to thank CPEC Authority for helping realise Kohala Power&Azad Pattan power Projects & further coord for their execution.$4 Bn Investment,1800 MW cheaper Hydel power with 8000 jobs. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cpec?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#cpec</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CPECMakingProgress?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CPECMakingProgress</a> <a href="https://t.co/EoOz0XqfPu">pic.twitter.com/EoOz0XqfPu</a></p>— Asim Saleem Bajwa (@AsimSBajwa) <a href="https://twitter.com/AsimSBajwa/status/1281445191728205824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Greenstorm]

Would be disappointing if IK is voted out and the next govt takes credit during that time period

Patwaris are already taking the credit for all these dams, shukria Nawaz Shareef .

 

[Abdullah719]

'Will build biggest dam in Pakistan's history': PM Imran kicks off construction work at Diamer-Bhasha Dam

Prime Minister Imran Khan on Wednesday vowed to build the "biggest dam in Pakistan's history" after kicking off construction work at the Diamer-Bhasha Dam project, adding that the project will also benefit the people living in Gilgit-Baltistan (GB).

The prime minister made the remarks while addressing a public gathering in Chilas.

Earlier, the PM had visited the site of the dam along with Chief of Army Staff Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa and Federal Minister for Water Resources Faisal Vawda, where they were briefed on the mega project.

In a tweet earlier today, Special Assistant to the PM on Information retired Lt Gen Asim Saleem Bajwa said that the project will generate 4,500MW of hydel power and provide at least 16,000 jobs.

The premier, during his address, vowed that with this project, the government was going towards building the "biggest dam in Pakistan's history".

"This will be our third big dam. China has made around 5,000 big dams, but have a total of about 80,000 dams. From this you can gauge the massive mistakes we have made in the past.

"The decision to build this dam was taken 50 years ago. There can be no better site for constructing a dam, it is a natural dam. Forty, 50 years ago this was decided, and work on the project has begun today. This is one of the biggest reasons why we haven't progressed."

Spoiler

The premier maintained that the government will now move towards building more dams on rivers, which will lessen pressure on foreign exchange and allow Pakistan to generate its own fuel.

He added that generating electricity from water instead of furnace oil or coal will also prevent negative impacts of global warming and climate change. "The benefits are dual. We won't have to import fuel and it won't affect our climate negatively."

Imran said that the project would also generate job opportunities for people living in the region. "I am familiar with GB and have visited Chilas on multiple occasions in the past 30 years. I am well aware how much the area depends on tourism and how much they need tourism during the summer months."

He said that he will speak to the chief minister to prepare standard operating procedures (SOPs) for resurrecting the tourism industry that has been severely impacted by the Covid-19 pandemic.

"We can learn from the world, tourism is slowly resuming. It won't be the same as it was before the pandemic hit, but we can start opening it slowly and start developing SOPs for it," he said, adding that help will also be extended by the National Command and Control Centre (NCOC) in this regard.

The premier added that the project was a huge opportunity for the people of Chilas and GB. Addressing the people of GB, he said: "We didn't increase your budget out of obligation. It is our government's policy to prioritise those areas that have been left behind.

"Thus far, our development has been restricted to a few cities. We will be left behind until we spend on uplifting less-developed areas."

Therefore, the government is investing in GB, merged districts and Balochistan, he said. He concluded his speech by congratulating the people of GB. "Time will prove that this dam will change the fortune of the people of GB, especially those living in Chilas."

The premier had began his speech by stressing that nations only progress when they think of the future and when they invest in their resources, uplifting those segments of society that have been left behind.

"The decisions made in the 90s to generate electricity using imported furnace oil affected our current account deficit. When there is pressure on foreign exchange, [the country's] economic conditions start deteriorating."

He stated that when the PTI took over the government, it inherited a current account deficit of Rs20 billion, the largest in the country's history.

"The value of the rupee started falling after deciding to generate electricity from imported oil; when the rupee depreciates, all imports become more expensive and inflation rises. This affects the poor people."

https://www.dawn.com/news/1569151/w...ks-off-construction-work-at-diamer-bhasha-dam

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mobilisation for Diamer Bhasha:Historic milestone as PM kicks off mega construction work at Diamer Bhasha Dam today.6.4 MAF Water reservoir,will add 1.2 M acres for agriculture,4500 MW cheaper,greener Hydel power, steel/cement/construction boost,16000 jobs.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/pakistanmakingprogress?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#pakistanmakingprogress</a> <a href="https://t.co/4moytVC2tp">pic.twitter.com/4moytVC2tp</a></p>— Asim Saleem Bajwa (@AsimSBajwa) <a href="https://twitter.com/AsimSBajwa/status/1283287883663781888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Hermoine Green]

 

[Hermoine Green]

is this the dam which is predicting to take 4 yrs to be finished

Will take more than 4 years according to my research.

 

[Hermoine Green]

I've broken it down multiple times for you but you do not seem to be the smartest guy around. Let me make it even easier for you and in small enough pieces.


1. The donation drive was only meant to raise awareness for need for dams and not fund them completely
2. It raised Rs 13b which is invested now and will be used at the end of the project when the investment would have grown more
3. The total project cost is about 1,400b
4. It is split into two parts: dam and power gen
5. The construction of dam part is about Rs 450b and contract was signed yesterday
6. An additional amount of 200b has already been spent for land acquisition.
7. Off the 450b government is investing about 300b and it is spread out over a few years hence easy to manage
8. 150b is being raised by Water and Power Development Authority (WAPDA) the main power dev agency in Pak
9. The power generation part will be by a private investor, basically they will invest money to generate power and then sell that power to government at agreed rate
10. The power gen portion will start after dam is constructed
11. Power generation portion will cost 700b or more but won't cost any money for the government


I hope this is easy enough for even someone like you to understand. Not sure why Pakistan progressing causes Indians to have their knickers in a twist.

Dont konw why i didnt read this explanation before, thanks buddy. Smoothly done :ramiz

 

[finalfantasy7]

Will take more than 4 years according to my research.

how long will it take in your opinion

 

[Bewal Express]

A historic moment and although IK may not be PM when it's completed, he, Bajwa and CJP Nisar will be remembered in our prayers forever. Let's getting working on the Kalabagh and secure our water for the next 50 years.