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Pakistan faces water crisis as India builds dams on shared rivers

These hindutvadis are so gullible. Modi and media are selling them pipe dreams like these and they are lapping it up.

Chinese have best Civil engineers and are experienced in large scaled construction. Yet their SNWTP is supposed to be completed in 2050 ! Now compare that with India, a nation that can't even produce a half decent plane (teja samosa is a prime example) is dreaming about projects like these.

I actually want India to embark on this project. Start spending around 60 billion dollars on a project that they will probably complete by the end of this century only to divert 25 % of our water ! All the while Pakistan will be a push of a button away to bringing these bollywood dreamers back to reality. :afridi
 
Pakistan is extremely vulnerable to India wrt water sharing whereas India is not that vulnerable to China.

As always Pakistanis do wreckless trolling on the command of their Chinese masters when its them who will suffer the worst. Its already been proven that Brahmputra river only grows as it enters India from China. 75% of the water in Brahmputra comes from torrential rainfall in India.

IWT suspension has been India's biggest hit at Pakistan. Despite destroying 11 Pakistani military bases, AWACS planes and multiple aircrafts and all. Its the IWT suspension hit that is going to hurt Pakistan the most in future.

All your trolling is useless. You will become humble when water dries out in your rivers. You are already suffering the heat as Punjab iis not sharing as much water with Sindh as they need. Your own states will go to war with each other over water first before you can come back at us.
Pakistanis have nothing to fear as long as 'educated Indians' believe fantasies like these.:yk
 
It’s not about stopping Pakistan’s water.

It’s about securing India’s rightful share from the Indus river system. At times, especially in jest or during moments of heightened tension, we hear rhetoric about “stopping Pakistan’s water.” But let’s be clear that’s just wartime hate commentary than actual intent. India has no desire to weaponise water or inflict suffering on ordinary Pakistanis.

The Indus Waters Treaty signed in 1960 was an extraordinarily generous agreement, a gesture of goodwill by India made in the hope that such magnanimity would foster lasting peace and goodwill between the two nations.


However Pakistan’s conduct over the decades has repeatedly fallen short of that spirit. It has continued to harbour hostility, always aligning with other anti-India forces.

In this context, India is under no moral obligation now to continue showing unilateral generosity. The era of idealistic expectations is over

Going forward, India will adopt a more pragmatic approach, we will ensure full utilisation of our fair and legally allotted share of the Indus waters before it flows downstream. This is not “water terrorism”—this is fairness. It is simply India acting responsibly and firmly in accordance with both the letter of the treaty and the realities of today’s geopolitical landscape.

I make this appeal that whenever Pakistan faces a drought in the future, India musts release surplus water to help Pakistanis in their time of need on a humanitarian ground. For Dharma we are prepared to go to war and rain BrahMos on them if such desperate measures would be the need of the our, but we must never resort to eco terrorism.
 
It’s not about stopping Pakistan’s water.

It’s about securing India’s rightful share from the Indus river system. At times, especially in jest or during moments of heightened tension, we hear rhetoric about “stopping Pakistan’s water.” But let’s be clear that’s just wartime hate commentary than actual intent. India has no desire to weaponise water or inflict suffering on ordinary Pakistanis.

The Indus Waters Treaty signed in 1960 was an extraordinarily generous agreement, a gesture of goodwill by India made in the hope that such magnanimity would foster lasting peace and goodwill between the two nations.


However Pakistan’s conduct over the decades has repeatedly fallen short of that spirit. It has continued to harbour hostility, always aligning with other anti-India forces.

In this context, India is under no moral obligation now to continue showing unilateral generosity. The era of idealistic expectations is over

Going forward, India will adopt a more pragmatic approach, we will ensure full utilisation of our fair and legally allotted share of the Indus waters before it flows downstream. This is not “water terrorism”—this is fairness. It is simply India acting responsibly and firmly in accordance with both the letter of the treaty and the realities of today’s geopolitical landscape.

I make this appeal that whenever Pakistan faces a drought in the future, India musts release surplus water to help Pakistanis in their time of need on a humanitarian ground. For Dharma we are prepared to go to war and rain BrahMos on them if such desperate measures would be the need of the our, but we must never resort to eco terrorism.
Pakistan gave you complete rights on three rivers of Indus water system i.e Ravi, Sutlej and Beas. That was your rightful share that India agreed to in IWT.

Anything more than that is pure besharmi from India and water terrorists will be dealt with accordingly.:rahi
 
Pakistan gave you complete rights on three rivers of Indus water system i.e Ravi, Sutlej and Beas. That was your rightful share that India agreed to in IWT.

Anything more than that is pure besharmi from India and water terrorists will be dealt with accordingly.:rahi

India has been extremely generous with its sister nation Pakistan wrt this treaty wherein we magnanimously gave away 4 times more water to our neighbour.

All in the spirit of friendship and long term relationship.

No friendship, No generosity.
 
Where is pahalgam proof of Pakistan involvement…

Pakistani’s despise the establishment and their Army for their thieving antics. You’ve just changed that narrative now.

This IWT scam is just indians and sanatanis revealing their true nature..(with the help of jew brothers)

Pakistanis wanted the animosity with india to stop, unfortunately the deaths of innocent civilian tourists by your state sponsored gave you the perfect excuse to now behave belligerently with water etc.
 
Where is pahalgam proof of Pakistan involvement…

Pakistani’s despise the establishment and their Army for their thieving antics. You’ve just changed that narrative now.

This IWT scam is just indians and sanatanis revealing their true nature..(with the help of jew brothers)

Pakistanis wanted the animosity with india to stop, unfortunately the deaths of innocent civilian tourists by your state sponsored gave you the perfect excuse to now behave belligerently with water etc.
As expected…zero proofs..
 
Maybe Pakistani public will rise up against the elites instead of blaming India

The IWT is massively lopsided..India with a huge population gets 20 percent and Pakistan gets 80 percent of water. This will not be accepted and two things will happen. India let's it's share of water flow into Pakistan currently. This will be stopped and it will impact Pakistan but this is within the treaty's accepted norms.

Then cheap diversion of water needs to be built on the rivers that flow into Pakistan but India should only use that if there is a terrorist attack..so that every time there is an attack..Paksitan needs to feel the pain. This would be achieved without a bullet fired.
 
What If China Stops Brahmaputra Water to India? A Response to Pakistan’s New Scare Narrative After India decisively moved away from the outdated Indus Waters Treaty, Pakistan is now spinning another manufactured threat: “What if China stops the Brahmaputra’s water to India?”

Let’s dismantle this myth — not with fear, but with facts and national clarity: Brahmaputra: A River That Grows in India — Not Shrinks China contributes only ~30–35% of the Brahmaputra’s total flow — mostly through glacial melt and limited Tibetan rainfall. The remaining 65–70% is generated within India, thanks to:•Torrential monsoon rainfall in Arunachal Pradesh, Assam, Nagaland, and Meghalaya

•Major tributaries like Subansiri, Lohit, Kameng, Manas, Dhansiri, Jia-Bharali, Kopili•Additional inflows from the Khasi, Garo, and Jaintia Hills via rivers such as Krishnai, Digaru, and Kulsi➤ At the Indo-China border (Tuting): Flow is ~2,000–3,000 m³/s➤ In Assam plains (e.g., Guwahati): Flow swells to 15,000–20,000 m³/s during monsoon The Brahmaputra is not a river India depends on upstream — it is a rain-fed Indian river system, strengthened after entering Indian territory. The Truth that Pakistan should know - Even if China were to reduce water flow (unlikely as China has never threatened or indicated in any official forum), it may actually help India mitigate the annual floods in Assam, which displace lakhs and destroy livelihoods every year.Meanwhile, Pakistan — which has exploited 74 years of preferential water access under the Indus Waters Treaty — now panics as India rightfully reclaims its sovereign rights. Let’s remind them:Brahmaputra is not controlled by a single source — it is powered by our geography, our monsoon, and our civilisational resilience#Brahmaputratruth



Yeap Absolutely right.

China can't help Pakistan here, India under the BJP government will complete the Dam. Best thing for Pakistan to do is, stop the terrorism, this is not my Italian ammayi led government in charge of Bharat and they ain't ever coming back to sell out the country like in the past. BJP will turn off the water tap and then Pakistan will be in struggle for survival...

It is time for Pakistan to progress as a nation, time of camel cowboy useless good for nothing mindset is over.....
 
Pakistan's geography sucks.

India controls its water literally.

An unstable Afghanistan to its West from where they have no control on the movement of extremist elements / ideology.

Its coastline is too small and can easily be blocked by Indian Navy in time of war.

The only good thing they had was a border with potentially #1 GDP and jobs/growth driver of the future but they ruined their relationship with them 🤣🤡
 
Pakistan's geography sucks.

India controls its water literally.

An unstable Afghanistan to its West from where they have no control on the movement of extremist elements / ideology.

Its coastline is too small and can easily be blocked by Indian Navy in time of war.

The only good thing they had was a border with potentially #1 GDP and jobs/growth driver of the future but they ruined their relationship with them 🤣🤡


I am now convinced that stopping water is right the way to go.

Once Pakistan is in survival mode, they will have to get rid of their terror emphasis mindset and start working with India, this will also at the same time: force them to build their economy and be more politically stable..

India might be able to revive Pakistan, let's see.
 
I am now convinced that stopping water is right the way to go.

Once Pakistan is in survival mode, they will have to get rid of their terror emphasis mindset and start working with India, this will also at the same time: force them to build their economy and be more politically stable..

India might be able to revive Pakistan, let's see.

Its not stopping water. That is unethical and makes us the villain.

We are merely quitting being extremely naive and generous with Pakistan in allowing them access to enormous amounts of water (the most important resource for mankind) much of which rightfully belongs to us. Giving away 80% water to a country 1/10th our size was a crime to the nation signed by Congress.
 
Once Pakistan is in survival mode, they will have to get rid of their terror emphasis mindset and start working with India, this will also at the same time: force them to build their economy and be more politically stable..

India might be able to revive Pakistan, let's see.

There will never be peace until Pakistan remains a military dictatorship.

The only hope is if civilian leadership takes control of national politics in Pakistan and there is finally a leadership in the future which is serious about improving relationships with India.

Its nearly impossible for Pakistan to get rid of the military dictatorship however. They're too late. The military influenced ecosystem in Pakistan is mature. They're the most sophisticated dictatorship in a long time.
 
Its not stopping water. That is unethical and makes us the villain.

We are merely quitting being extremely naive and generous with Pakistan in allowing them access to enormous amounts of water (the most important resource for mankind) much of which rightfully belongs to us. Giving away 80% water to a country 1/10th our size was a crime to the nation signed by Congress.
You have to be cruel to be kind.

They are not capable of getting out of the mess they are in, Bharat will have to help. Force it on them, when water is used their military will have absolutely no choice but to behave, if they can't use terrorism, then their military will have no choice to abandon the India boogey man theory and will be force to actually build an economy to stay in power..

It might not work, but we have to try....
 
I am now convinced that stopping water is right the way to go.

Once Pakistan is in survival mode, they will have to get rid of their terror emphasis mindset and start working with India, this will also at the same time: force them to build their economy and be more politically stable..

India might be able to revive Pakistan, let's see.

Biggest problem is the radicalised masses of India. Take you for example, yet to realise that India cannot stop the water but has drank the hindutva kool-aid and convinced in their invincibility and bombastic schemes. The reality is that like you, hundreds of millions if not a billion, are now radicalised and behave in an almost imbecilic way, without realising it, and therein lies the problem. I am now convinced that there will be no peace until the radicalised masses of India are re-educated almost like allies had to do in Germany after WW2.
 
You have to be cruel to be kind.

They are not capable of getting out of the mess they are in, Bharat will have to help. Force it on them, when water is used their military will have absolutely no choice but to behave, if they can't use terrorism, then their military will have no choice to abandon the India boogey man theory and will be force to actually build an economy to stay in power..

It might not work, but we have to try....

Cruelity would be the weapon we are working on right now. An Air to Air bio weapon in gaseous state, once inhaled the men will go on an artificially induced hormone therapy slowly transitioning to a transgender, full cycle completed within 2 weeks, non reversible. Within just two weeks of war most of their soldiers would go back giggling wanting to wear pink skirts and have ponytails and wear nail paints. That’s what I would call cruel.
 
Stopping the water should be India's #1 priority, with regard to its Pakistan policy.

All claims of how cruel it is are just water off a duck's back. A price has to be paid.

It’s not who we are as a country.

Water is the most essential resource is on the planet and privileged nations must never weaponize it.

It’s not funny.

We are merely planning to utilize our fair share of water from the Indus River. It’s our right. It’s not us doing anything to criminal.
 
Stopping the water should be India's #1 priority, with regard to its Pakistan policy.

All claims of how cruel it is are just water off a duck's back. A price has to be paid.
You do realise that India is the middle country! Ofcourse you didn't.
 
It’s not who we are as a country.

Water is the most essential resource is on the planet and privileged nations must never weaponize it.

It’s not funny.

We are merely planning to utilize our fair share of water from the Indus River. It’s our right. It’s not us doing anything to criminal.

You are a weakling; stick to your naive Gandhian ideals of turning the other cheek.

Water diversion should have been done immediately after the 1965 war. It is embarrassing that India hasn't done anything in 60 years. Shocking infact.
 
You do realise China can only control 35% of the flow of water whilst the remaining 65% comes from India ?

How would you know, you Pakistanis are just pawns on a chess board with no value.



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Oh does it now......

It's like how the entire world supported you and spoke against Pakistan in the war too.... and your army captured Islamabad etc...... But ofcourse that only exists in your radicalised minds and nowhere else.

Back on planet reality, Modi has gone from belligerent to quiet on the water front. I wonder why.

I have to say, seeing you all lose your minds in psychotic fits is very entertaining.
 
Biggest problem is the radicalised masses of India. Take you for example, yet to realise that India cannot stop the water but has drank the hindutva kool-aid and convinced in their invincibility and bombastic schemes. The reality is that like you, hundreds of millions if not a billion, are now radicalised and behave in an almost imbecilic way, without realising it, and therein lies the problem. I am now convinced that there will be no peace until the radicalised masses of India are re-educated almost like allies had to do in Germany after WW2.

Just like allied forces de-Nazified Germany after WW2, allied forces in subcontinent (China, Pakistan etc.) need to de-sanghify India. :inti

I think it may eventually happen because India is being very disruptive in the region.
 
Wow. This has to be the clownery of the highest order.pak wants to control the Indian dams with remote technology

@rpant_gabba @Hitman


This is how to present ppt.


Hamid Mir : India cannot stop the Indus water...

Host : How?

Hamid : The way we(🇵🇰) jammed the Rafale radar system and radio system... Don't ask further questions

Host : India is going to buy F-35 from America

Hamir mir : F-35 is a pretty old fighter jet
 
Seems pak reservoirs are dead as they can't release more water any more.pak gdp took already a 0.5 percent hit.



Will pak become the first desi country to use tissues and beg imf loan for that @Hitman
 
Seems pak reservoirs are dead as they can't release more water any more.pak gdp took already a 0.5 percent hit.



Will pak become the first desi country to use tissues and beg imf loan for that @Hitman
You forgot, Indian links are not accepted here provided -

1. They say anything positive about India.

2. They say anything negative about Pakistan.​
 
You forgot, Indian links are not accepted here provided -

1. They say anything positive about India.

2. They say anything negative about Pakistan.​
Yeah anything to do with facts of pak current situation are not encouraged here.delusional guys.on the way to become north Korea.u remember ur post about the article on dawn after surrender in 1971
:afridi
 
Wow. This has to be the clownery of the highest order.pak wants to control the Indian dams with remote technology

@rpant_gabba @Hitman


This is how to present ppt.


Hamid Mir : India cannot stop the Indus water...

Host : How?

Hamid : The way we(🇵🇰) jammed the Rafale radar system and radio system... Don't ask further questions

Host : India is going to buy F-35 from America

Hamir mir : F-35 is a pretty old fighter jet
He is such a joker that used Old footage to claimed india jets were down during the conflict. I Exposed all of his claims.

He even used a Old video of rajasthan chemical factory than claimed india adampur base is burning by Pakistan Strikes. 😂😂

:kp
 
India’s water attack on Pakistan, water at ‘dead’ levels in…, big plans for Indus Waters are…

Farmers in Pakistan are facing difficulties in planting crops in the Kharif season with consistently lower levels of water in dams. This situation is being created there because of India’s suspension of the Indus Water Treaty, and it is going to get worse in the coming years as New Delhi is planning several projects on the Indus River system. India is mulling over implementing a plan to optimise the usage of the Indus River system via inter-basin water transfers. The plan is to construct a 113-km canal in order to redirect excess water from Jammu & Kashmir to farming-prone states — Punjab, Haryana, and Rajasthan. Short-term reservoir maintenance, including flushing and desilting, is underway at the Baglihar and Salal hydroelectric plants on the Chenab River. This work complements other planned initiatives.

The focus of these actions is to store and regulate maximum water flow after the suspension of 1960 Indus Waters Treaty by Prime Minister Narendra Modi-led Central government following the Pahalgam terror attack in April that claimed 26 lives of tourists.

Big Plans For Indus Waters

India is developing a long-term strategy for maximising the Indus River system’s potential. This involves a comprehensive plan for inter-basin water transfers, starting with a feasibility study for a 113-km canal to divert surplus water from Jammu and Kashmir to Punjab, Haryana, and Rajasthan, as per a report by TOI.

The proposed canal, through Ravi-Beas-Sutlej, will connect to the Chenab. This will optimise the utilisation of eastern rivers such as the Yamuna, Beas and Sutlej. It will also enable India to utilise the allocated share of western rivers like Indus, Jhelum and Chenab under the treaty, preventing excess water flow to Pakistan.

Indian Home Minister Amit Shah has pledged to deliver Indus River water to Rajasthan’s Sri Ganganagar district via canal systems within three years. This project aims to improve irrigation in large agricultural areas, potentially impacting Pakistan’s access to the river’s water. The plan involves redirecting surplus water from Jammu and Kashmir to Punjab, Haryana, and Rajasthan, aiming for a fairer distribution of water resources across the region.

Pakistan Faces ‘Dead’ Water Levels

Meanwhile, the water levels in rivers flowing to the neighbouring country reached ‘dead’ levels. Rivers such Indus, Jhelum and Chenab which flow from India are witnessing a continuous reduction in volume. This has forced Pak to release more easter than it receives to fulfil the requirements.

Reduced water flow downstream of Jammu & Kashmir dams is expected to worsen during the pre-monsoon season due to routine dam maintenance activities, including desilting and flushing, aimed at increasing storage capacity.

Because of the suspension of the Indus Water Treaty, Pak’s Punjab province, where farmers have started the kharif cultivation, is receiving less water compared to the previous year. Pakistan’s Mangla and Tarbela dams, vital water sources, are nearing critically low levels, approaching their minimum operational capacity, despite the monsoon season being approximately one month away.

This simply means that a further decrease in water flow may leave Islamabad with very few options to cater to its farming operations before the arrival of the monsoon.

 
India’s water attack on Pakistan, water at ‘dead’ levels in…, big plans for Indus Waters are…

Farmers in Pakistan are facing difficulties in planting crops in the Kharif season with consistently lower levels of water in dams. This situation is being created there because of India’s suspension of the Indus Water Treaty, and it is going to get worse in the coming years as New Delhi is planning several projects on the Indus River system. India is mulling over implementing a plan to optimise the usage of the Indus River system via inter-basin water transfers. The plan is to construct a 113-km canal in order to redirect excess water from Jammu & Kashmir to farming-prone states — Punjab, Haryana, and Rajasthan. Short-term reservoir maintenance, including flushing and desilting, is underway at the Baglihar and Salal hydroelectric plants on the Chenab River. This work complements other planned initiatives.

The focus of these actions is to store and regulate maximum water flow after the suspension of 1960 Indus Waters Treaty by Prime Minister Narendra Modi-led Central government following the Pahalgam terror attack in April that claimed 26 lives of tourists.

Big Plans For Indus Waters

India is developing a long-term strategy for maximising the Indus River system’s potential. This involves a comprehensive plan for inter-basin water transfers, starting with a feasibility study for a 113-km canal to divert surplus water from Jammu and Kashmir to Punjab, Haryana, and Rajasthan, as per a report by TOI.

The proposed canal, through Ravi-Beas-Sutlej, will connect to the Chenab. This will optimise the utilisation of eastern rivers such as the Yamuna, Beas and Sutlej. It will also enable India to utilise the allocated share of western rivers like Indus, Jhelum and Chenab under the treaty, preventing excess water flow to Pakistan.

Indian Home Minister Amit Shah has pledged to deliver Indus River water to Rajasthan’s Sri Ganganagar district via canal systems within three years. This project aims to improve irrigation in large agricultural areas, potentially impacting Pakistan’s access to the river’s water. The plan involves redirecting surplus water from Jammu and Kashmir to Punjab, Haryana, and Rajasthan, aiming for a fairer distribution of water resources across the region.

Pakistan Faces ‘Dead’ Water Levels

Meanwhile, the water levels in rivers flowing to the neighbouring country reached ‘dead’ levels. Rivers such Indus, Jhelum and Chenab which flow from India are witnessing a continuous reduction in volume. This has forced Pak to release more easter than it receives to fulfil the requirements.

Reduced water flow downstream of Jammu & Kashmir dams is expected to worsen during the pre-monsoon season due to routine dam maintenance activities, including desilting and flushing, aimed at increasing storage capacity.

Because of the suspension of the Indus Water Treaty, Pak’s Punjab province, where farmers have started the kharif cultivation, is receiving less water compared to the previous year. Pakistan’s Mangla and Tarbela dams, vital water sources, are nearing critically low levels, approaching their minimum operational capacity, despite the monsoon season being approximately one month away.

This simply means that a further decrease in water flow may leave Islamabad with very few options to cater to its farming operations before the arrival of the monsoon.


Well the solution is simple;

Pakistani military needs to stop sending terrorists across the border to Bharat, that time has now ended, once Bharat completes Dam, there will be no water, if Pakistan keeps acting stupid.

Find some other way to scam the money off the Pakistani public rather than using the boogey man Bharat and false Kashmir narrative..

Holiday is over for Pakistan, no longer is my Italian Ammayi or her party in charge and most likely won't be for another 20 years, and by then Pakistan at the current rate may not even be around, not because of Bharat, but because of all the dumb things thier leadership will do between now and then..

Wakey Wakey Pakistan, time to get up no more sleep...
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Somebody was shouting,crying that blood will flow if the water is stopped.so typical of pak politicians. Innocent civilians trusted the clowns and paying the price for the establishment's terrorist backing.
 
Hey China!

We are waiting for you stop the Brahmaputra. When are you going to do that?

Keep taking the Ls shawty
 
Hey China!

We are waiting for you stop the Brahmaputra. When are you going to do that?

Keep taking the Ls shawty

China wont do much, it is all talk, there is a 150 billion/year trade relationship that is growing by the year with India, which also favors China.

Even if China did do something they can only control around 30% of the water..

Once India completes the DAM, it is game over for Pakistan....

Feel sorry for the Pakistani citizens who are not part of this, as long as that military of theirs is in charge there is no hope for Pakistan till the end of time.....
 
Somebody was shouting,crying that blood will flow if the water is stopped.so typical of pak politicians. Innocent civilians trusted the clowns and paying the price for the establishment's terrorist backing.

Pakistanis have only seen a very small glimpse of how war welcoming Indians are. This nation celebrates wartime like a festival. The fact that PM Modi, the most popular world leader in a long time, after destroying 11 military bases of Pakistan including a dozen + aircrafts and countless assets still has to deal with ceasefire haters who wanted him to go on and on should be a proof of how crazy it is to antagonize India right now. This is a mad nation.
 

When will India restore Indus Waters Treaty with Pakistan? Amit Shah answers​


Union home minister Amit Shah has categorically ruled out restoring the Indus Waters Treaty with Pakistan, asserting that India will instead divert the river water for its internal use.

Shah said, “No, it will never be restored,” when asked about the status of the six-decade-old agreement in an interview with The Times of India.

The Bharatiya Janata Party veteran added, “We will take water that was flowing to Pakistan to Rajasthan by constructing a canal. Pakistan will be starved of water that it has been getting unjustifiably.”

The Indus Waters Treaty, signed in 1960, regulates water sharing between India and Pakistan from the Indus River system. However, India put the treaty into "abeyance" following the April 22 terrorist attack in Pahalgam, Jammu and Kashmir, which left 26 civilians dead. The government linked the suspension of the pact to Islamabad's continued support for cross-border terrorism.

Pakistan has denied involvement in the Pahalgam attack. Despite a ceasefire agreement between the two nuclear-armed neighbours following their worst border clashes in decades, the treaty remains suspended.

Pakistan's multiple appeals to review suspension order

Since April, Islamabad has repeatedly urged India to reconsider its decision. According to officials familiar with the matter, Pakistan’s water resources secretary, Syed Ali Murtaza, has written at least four letters to India’s Jal Shakti Ministry—three of them after the conclusion of Operation Sindoor, a military operation following the Pahalgam killings—asking for a review of the suspension.

The Pakistani government claims that India’s action violates the treaty and that “no unilateral” suspension is permissible under the pact's terms.

 

When will India restore Indus Waters Treaty with Pakistan? Amit Shah answers​


Union home minister Amit Shah has categorically ruled out restoring the Indus Waters Treaty with Pakistan, asserting that India will instead divert the river water for its internal use.

Shah said, “No, it will never be restored,” when asked about the status of the six-decade-old agreement in an interview with The Times of India.

The Bharatiya Janata Party veteran added, “We will take water that was flowing to Pakistan to Rajasthan by constructing a canal. Pakistan will be starved of water that it has been getting unjustifiably.”

The Indus Waters Treaty, signed in 1960, regulates water sharing between India and Pakistan from the Indus River system. However, India put the treaty into "abeyance" following the April 22 terrorist attack in Pahalgam, Jammu and Kashmir, which left 26 civilians dead. The government linked the suspension of the pact to Islamabad's continued support for cross-border terrorism.

Pakistan has denied involvement in the Pahalgam attack. Despite a ceasefire agreement between the two nuclear-armed neighbours following their worst border clashes in decades, the treaty remains suspended.

Pakistan's multiple appeals to review suspension order

Since April, Islamabad has repeatedly urged India to reconsider its decision. According to officials familiar with the matter, Pakistan’s water resources secretary, Syed Ali Murtaza, has written at least four letters to India’s Jal Shakti Ministry—three of them after the conclusion of Operation Sindoor, a military operation following the Pahalgam killings—asking for a review of the suspension.

The Pakistani government claims that India’s action violates the treaty and that “no unilateral” suspension is permissible under the pact's terms.


But but but ... I thought Pakistan won the war decisively and forced India to surrender ... No ? :inti

@The Bald Eagle
@Rajdeep
@Devadwal
@Hitman
@Vikram1989
 
But but but ... I thought Pakistan won the war decisively and forced India to surrender ... No ? :inti

@The Bald Eagle
@Rajdeep
@Devadwal
@Hitman
@Vikram1989
Enough with this politicking....I think BJP will continue with this nonsense until Pak doesn't respond....But they are still busy mauling India last month. Pak establishment need to wake up and act as India won't stop till then in my opinion.
 
Enough with this politicking....I think BJP will continue with this nonsense until Pak doesn't respond....But they are still busy mauling India last month. Pak establishment need to wake up and act as India won't stop till then in my opinion.

So there was no surrender then ? Why is your country begging India ? What happened to the "Paani rokenge tau hum tumhaari saas rokenge" bluster ?
 
So there was no surrender then ? Why is your country begging India ? What happened to the "Paani rokenge tau hum tumhaari saas rokenge" bluster ?
India did surrender no doubt but there is something called face saving too and BJP is bent on that with this stunt
 
The war was started by your side....what did you achieve???

11 Airbases hit with pinpoint precision ( Pakistan actually admitted being pounded in more places than the Indian Army claimed ... let that sink in lol )

9 Terror bases completely destroyed.

Most importantly Pakistan's Nuclear bluff was openly called out and ofcourse the Indus water treaty still stands suspended and India has openly told that the next time Pakistan does despicable things like Pehalgam the phainta will be bigger.


But just to humor you I will pretend that none of the above happened except for Indus water treaty.

Can you tell me why your country is still begging India to release water if India surrendered according to you ?
 
11 Airbases hit with pinpoint precision ( Pakistan actually admitted being pounded in more places than the Indian Army claimed ... let that sink in lol )

9 Terror bases completely destroyed.

Most importantly Pakistan's Nuclear bluff was openly called out and ofcourse the Indus water treaty still stands suspended and India has openly told that the next time Pakistan does despicable things like Pehalgam the phainta will be bigger.


But just to humor you I will pretend that none of the above happened except for Indus water treaty.

Can you tell me why your country is still begging India to release water if India surrendered according to you ?
Nuclear bluff then why Modi agreed to a ceasefire in first place???

Where are the culprits of Pahalgam??? Caught or not and what a stupidity to claim that we hit terrorists while children and women were targeted in Mosques

All you achieved was just annihilate the reputation of Rawfail I mean raphale. And your 16 bases attacked and more than 15 soldiers killed...so if Pakistan has been tamed and surrendered then why so much anger now...why begging FATF for more sanctions??

Only thing to bully is IWT but don't worry if Pak couldn't take revenge then China will take care of that
 
Nuclear bluff then why Modi agreed to a ceasefire in first place???

Where are the culprits of Pahalgam??? Caught or not and what a stupidity to claim that we hit terrorists while children and women were targeted in Mosques

All you achieved was just annihilate the reputation of Rawfail I mean raphale. And your 16 bases attacked and more than 15 soldiers killed...so if Pakistan has been tamed and surrendered then why so much anger now...why begging FATF for more sanctions??

Only thing to bully is IWT but don't worry if Pak couldn't take revenge then China will take care of that
Leave everything alone, as promised by your Failed marshal, Bilwal or many more Pakistani leadership ,when will Pakistan attack on India ?

Any updates? Or it was only for lip service :kp
 
Leave everything alone, as promised by your Failed marshal, Bilwal or many more Pakistani leadership ,when will Pakistan attack on India ?

Any updates? Or it was only for lip service :kp
May be they are waiting for you to literally stop it and change its course....may be they still consider it your bluff...bad strategy need to take action in time.
 
May be they are waiting for you to literally stop it and change its course....may be they still consider it your bluff...bad strategy need to take action in time.
What bluffs? India is already abeyance the IWT from almost 2 month's . Pakistani ki nadiyan sukha gyi hai . Or kya dekhna hai abhi ? :kp
 
Leave everything alone, as promised by your Failed marshal, Bilwal or many more Pakistani leadership ,when will Pakistan attack on India ?

Any updates? Or it was only for lip service :kp

Why exactly should Pakistan attack? Not everything in diplomacy operates on the “absolute victory or total humiliation” scale that Hindutva minds seem stuck in.

Relax. Be a good little Temu Arnab, copy-paste your recycled links like a budget version of the real Arnab, and leave the analysis to people who actually understand geopolitics.
 

Pakistan calls Shah’s IWT remarks ‘clear violation of international law’​


Pakistan on Saturday strongly condemned Indian Home Minister Amit Shah’s remarks that the Indus Waters Treaty (IWT) with Pakistan “will never be restored,” terming the statement a “brazen disregard for the sanctity of international agreements.”

Responding to media queries regarding Shah’s interview with The Times of India, in which he said that India would divert water flowing to Pakistan for domestic use, the Foreign Office in Islamabad said the comments constitute a clear violation of international law, the Treaty’s provisions, and the fundamental principles governing inter-state relations.

“The Indus Waters Treaty is not a political arrangement, but an international treaty with no provision for unilateral action,” the Foreign Office spokesperson said. “India’s illegal announcement to hold the Treaty in abeyance constitutes a clear violation of international law, the provisions of the Treaty itself, and the fundamental principles governing inter-state relations.”

The spokesperson added that such conduct “sets a reckless and dangerous precedent” that undermines the credibility of international agreements and raises serious concerns about India’s reliability as a treaty partner.

“Weaponizing water for political ends is irresponsible and contrary to established norms of responsible state behavior,” the statement said, calling on New Delhi to immediately rescind its unilateral position and resume full implementation of the treaty.

For its part, Pakistan reiterated its firm commitment to the Indus Waters Treaty and pledged to take all necessary measures to protect its legitimate rights under the agreement.

Signed in 1960 with the World Bank as a guarantor, the Indus Waters Treaty governs the allocation and use of water from the Indus river system between the two countries.

The treaty guarantees Pakistan access to the three western rivers — Indus, Jhelum, and Chenab — which are crucial for irrigation and agriculture in the country. Despite wars and ongoing tensions, the treaty had largely withstood bilateral hostilities for over six decades.

However, in April 2025, India announced it was placing the treaty “in abeyance” following a deadly attack in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu & Kashmir (IIOJK), which it blamed on elements allegedly linked to Pakistan, without providing any evidence. Islamabad has categorically denied any involvement in the incident.

In Saturday’s interview, Shah said unequivocally: “No, it will never be restored. We will take water that was flowing to Pakistan to Rajasthan by constructing a canal. Pakistan will be starved of water that it has been getting unjustifiably.”

Shah’s remarks, seen as a hardening of India’s stance, have dimmed hopes of any near-term dialogue over the future of the treaty. Reuters recently reported that India plans to dramatically increase the water it diverts from rivers that flow into Pakistan as part of what it calls retaliatory measures.

Pakistan is reportedly exploring legal avenues to challenge India’s move under international law, and diplomatic efforts are ongoing to rally international support for the preservation and enforcement of the treaty.

The escalating rhetoric over water comes amid fragile ties between the nuclear-armed neighbours, despite a ceasefire agreement earlier this year after one of the most serious flare-ups along the Line of Control in recent decades.


What is the Indus Waters Treaty?

The origins of the IWT can be traced back to the Partition of British India in August 1947, when India and Pakistan became two independent nations. Both countries, now home to over 1.6 billion people, have historically relied heavily on the rivers flowing from the Himalayas for irrigation and agriculture.

The division of the Punjab province, which was extensively developed under British rule with an integrated irrigation system, created an immediate need for an agreement on the equitable sharing of the river waters between India and Pakistan.

This was essential to prevent any future conflicts over this vital resource, particularly given that the new border separated the territories through which these rivers flowed.

After nine years of negotiations, facilitated by the World Bank, the IWT was signed in September 1960 by then-Indian PM Jawaharlal Nehru and former Pakistani president Ayub Khan.

India was given control over the three eastern rivers—Ravi, Sutlej, and Beas—while Pakistan was assigned control over the three western rivers—Indus, Jhelum, and Chenab. As part of the treaty, India is required to allow the waters of the western rivers to flow into Pakistan, with only a few exceptions.

The treaty also allows India to develop hydroelectric projects on the western rivers, but these projects must adhere to strict conditions.

They must be "run-of-the-river" projects, meaning that they cannot significantly alter the flow or storage of water, ensuring that Pakistan’s water rights as the downstream riparian country are not adversely affected.

Source: The Express Tribune
 
Nuclear bluff then why Modi agreed to a ceasefire in first place???

Because your DGMO came begging and that we had already accomplished our objective on the 1st day itself ... the 11 Airbases thereafter were just bonus .... and ohh dont forget about Indus water!!


Where are the culprits of Pahalgam??? Caught or not and what a stupidity to claim that we hit terrorists while children and women were targeted in Mosques

The evidence in the form of video footage attending a funeral lead by a sanctioned terrorist. You should be the last person to talk about innocents. When you target innocent people, pilgrims then at some point you will be dealt with in the same manner.


All you achieved was just annihilate the reputation of Rawfail I mean raphale. And your 16 bases attacked and more than 15 soldiers killed...so if Pakistan has been tamed and surrendered then why so much anger now...why begging FATF for more sanctions??


Doesnt seem to have stopped Indonesia from signing a deal with Dassault ... so much for "hurting" the reputation.


Only thing to bully is IWT but don't worry if Pak couldn't take revenge then China will take care of that

So there was no surrender by India then ... which is why you are now begging India and if that doesnt work you will go beg others to help you out ?
 
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The evidence in the form of video footage attending a funeral lead by a sanctioned terrorist. You should be the last person to talk about innocents. When you target innocent people, pilgrims then at some point you will be dealt with in the same manner.
What an awful argument....try something better...Pak considers modi a terrorist but not some innocent civilians
 
What an awful argument....try something better...Pak considers modi a terrorist but not some innocent civilians
Same innocent question was asked to an international journalist by ur senator and she got ridiculed and insulted.



U can watch it from 6.30
 
Either India shares water fairly or we will secure it from ‘all 6 rivers’: Bilawal

Former foreign minister and PPP Chairman Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari on Monday said India has the option to either share water fairly or “we will deliver water to us from all six (Indus river system) rivers”.

Delhi unilaterally suspended its participation in the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty (IWT), which governs the usage of the Indus river system, on April 23, shortly after 26 civilians were killed in India-held Kashmir. Delhi, without evidence, blamed Islamabad for the attack. The latter has denied the allegations and called for a neutral probe. The accord remains dormant despite a ceasefire agreed upon by the two nuclear-armed neighbours last month following their worst fighting in decades.

The Foreign Office (FO) on Saturday had slammed Indian Home Minister Amit Shah’s “brazen disregard” for international agreements after the latter said New Delhi would never restore the IWT with Pakistan.


Speaking in the National Assembly during a session on the federal budget, Bilawal said, “India has two options: share water fairly, or we will deliver water to us from all six rivers.”

“The attack on Sindhu [Indus River] and India’s claim that the IWT has ended and it’s in abeyance, firstly, this is illegal, as the IWT is not in abeyance, it is binding on Pakistan and India, but the threat itself of stopping water is illegal according to the UN charter,” the former foreign minister said.

He continued that if India decides to follow through on the threat, we will have to wage war again

He added that hopefully Pakistan won’t have to, but if it does have to, it is in the position to defeat India the same way it just did.

Bilawal further told lawamkers that peace between the two nuclear neighbours is impossible without cooperation, especially in counterterrorism efforts. “If India and Pakistan refuse to talk, and if there is no coordination on terrorism, then violence will only intensify in both countries,” he warned.

He said India was weaponising terrorism for political purposes. “India seeks to exploit terrorism as a political tool to harm Pakistan’s international standing,” he said, adding that during his diplomatic visits to the United Kingdom and European Union as foreign minister, it became evident that India had lobbied hard to reverse Pakistan’s progress on the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) front.

“At a time when Pakistan had successfully moved from the FATF grey list to the white list, India made every effort to drag us back to the grey list using false narratives and diplomatic pressure,” he said. “But thanks to our Foreign Office, the prime minister, and his team, those efforts failed. Once again, Pakistan won — and India lost.”

Bilawal also urged renewed dialogue between Pakistan and India to curb regional instability. He added, “We are fighting not only for the public of Pakistan but also of India as well.”

He strongly criticised what he called Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s dangerous doctrine of escalation. “Under Modi’s new ‘abnormal’, any terrorist incident in India becomes an automatic pretext for launching hostilities against Pakistan,” Bilawal warned.

He questioned what would happen if Pakistan were to adopt the same policy. “We suffer from terrorist attacks ten times more than India, many of which are traced back to Indian funding or involvement. Should we then adopt a policy of automatic retaliation, too? That would mean surrendering our future to the will of terrorists.

“That might be Modi’s vision, but it is not ours. We will not let terrorists dictate regional peace,” he declared.

Last week, addressing a crowd of supporters, Bilawal had said that New Delhi must accept the IWT. Pakistan’s narrative had prevailed, not only in diplomatic circles, but also across international media, he claimed.

Earlier in the month, Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif also condemned India’s unilateral suspension of the IWT, describing it as a “blatant violation and act of water aggression”, and warned that Pakistan would give a befitting response in line with decisions made at the National Security Committee (NSC) meeting held on April 24.

Source: Dawn News
 
Bhuttos of Sindh and Shahs of Iran making a comeback talking like Retarded privileged leaders.

Will have to wage “war” again it seems.
 
Build the canals and divert the water to Rajasthan. My state need more water. :kp
 
Bhuttos of Sindh and Shahs of Iran making a comeback talking like Retarded privileged leaders.

Will have to wage “war” again it seems.
Pakistan is now emboldened and knows that when push comes to shove it can destroy the dams when and if need be. It will have legal justification to do so. Pakistan's air superiority will be unmatched for the foreseeable future and they will go for an all out attack in western theatre first to neutralise all the assets that Indian can use to launch a conventional all out attack quickly.... bit like what's happening to Iran at the moment. India will be reduced to launching missiles from deep inside its own territory.

Your best assets will have to moved atleast 500 km or more down south from the border. If they are not there already.

The spectre of one side going nuclear increases many fold at this point.
 
Pakistan is now emboldened and knows that when push comes to shove it can destroy the dams when and if need be. It will have legal justification to do so. Pakistan's air superiority will be unmatched for the foreseeable future and they will go for an all out attack in western theatre first to neutralise all the assets that Indian can use to launch a conventional all out attack quickly.... bit like what's happening to Iran at the moment. India will be reduced to launching missiles from deep inside its own territory.

Your best assets will have to moved atleast 500 km or more down south from the border. If they are not there already.

The spectre of one side going nuclear increases many fold at this point.

India can’t stop Pakistan from thinking or talking what they want, with ever increasing defence budget Pakistan will be in good place defensively but India isn’t moving every down south fearing Pakistan but as i said Pakistan can obviously think as they want.
 
India can’t stop Pakistan from thinking or talking what they want, with ever increasing defence budget Pakistan will be in good place defensively but India isn’t moving every down south fearing Pakistan but as i said Pakistan can obviously think as they want.
It depends on who goes all out first. Indian doesn't have anything to counter the stealth fighter which Pakistan will be acquiring in about a month or so. Not saying that they will, but their main assets, their bases will have to be 500 km outside the BVR range of the Pakistani jets. Pakistan can also come in from behind via Chinese territory too bit like what's happening in Iran via Azerbaijan. No doubt both sides will be gaming scenarios and making plans.

Anyway lets hope it doesn't get to that.
 
River Of Sorrow: Chenab Steals Sons, Shatters Dreams Amid India-Pakistan Conflict

Farooq Ahmed Koka, a cleric in Lal Bazar, Srinagar, is passing through the most painful phase of his life as he waits for the bodies of his two sons, swallowed by the ruthless current of the Chenab River, now a symbol of a region’s sorrow.

A native of Dharosh village in Doda district, Koka was in Srinagar on June 14, when his sons, Abrar Ahmed (12) and Asrar Ahmed (10), drowned in the Chenab River, with no one able to save them.

Eyewitnesses said the duo were playing cricket at the banks of the river in Pul Doda when the younger one, Asrar, went to fetch a ball from the river and slipped before getting drowned. Without caring for his life, the elder one, Abrar, tried to save his brother and got hold of his legs, but destiny had something else for them. Within no time, they disappeared in the gushing waters, their cries for help unheard.

Dozens of mourners have been visiting Koka at his house in Pul Doda to offer their condolences, but his only plea is to help in retrieving the bodies of his children. “I accept what destiny has written for my children, but my only plea is that their bodies may be recovered soon so that we can perform their last rites and see their faces for the one last time,” he appealed to the administration and Chenab rescuers.

There are many like Koka, who have lost their loved ones in the mighty Chenab River, which has been the bone of contention between India and Pakistan, especially after the Indus Waters Treaty (IWT) was kept in abeyance by the Government of India (GoI) in response to the April 22 Pahalgam terror attack in south Kashmir. The river originates from the Lahol Spiti area of Himachal Pradesh and flows through five districts of Jammu and Kashmir—Kishtwar, Doda, Ramban, Reasi and Jammu—before entering Pakistan near Akhnoor. Due to its high speed and the amount of water it gets from different tributaries, the generation capacity of hydroelectric power is the highest in the region, and as per the reports of the government, out of the total 20000 megawatt potential of hydropower in J&K, the river Chenab alone has around 16000 megawatt power generation potential.

Out of these five districts, only Jammu district uses the water of Chenab for irrigation purposes with the help of Ranbir Canal, which was constructed in 1903 by the then Dogra ruler Maharaja Partap Singh, whereas after the IWT was signed in September 1960, the ownership of the river Chenab, along with two other major rivers, Indus and Jhelum, lies with Pakistan.

People of Jammu and Kashmir can only have a look at the river and can’t harness its potential for their benefit. This canal was constructed long before the IWT came into being, and for the last 65 years, trillions of cusecs of water have gone to Pakistan, and the people of Jammu and Kashmir have only suffered.

Rather, it has given them only pain and agony, as dozens and hundreds of people have lost their lives by getting drowned in the river, many due to accidents and some due to suicide.

As per the data available with ETV Bharat, since 2021, around 35 people have died due to drowning in the Chenab falling in the Jammu district, and out of which 32 bodies were recovered, whereas three are still untraceable.

On June 11, 2024, a 22-year-old, Harsh Nagotra, son of Subash Nagotra, a resident of the Jourian area of Khour in the sub-district of Akhnoor in Jammu, died by suicide by jumping into the river. His body was recovered from the river in Pakistan. The Pakistani Rangers had returned the body to Indian authorities through the Ranbir Singh Pura area on the International Border (IB) after completing the identification process, 40 days after his death. Such is the flow of the water in summers that even the nets installed by the government in the river couldn’t stop Harsh Nagotra’s body from crossing.

“This used to be a regular affair earlier, when most of the bodies were being recovered by the Pakistani authorities after getting drowned here. After completing the identification formalities, Pakistani authorities had been returning the bodies, and if somebody remained unidentified, their final rituals were performed across the border,” a police official told ETV Bharat at a police establishment in Akhnoor.

Similarly, in Doda district, through which the mighty Chenab flows and where the reservoir of the Baghliar hydroelectric power project is situated, which is the biggest reservoir on the river Chenab to date, 42 people have died due to drowning in the river since 2021, and out of which only 18 bodies have been recovered, whereas 24 people are still missing. Also, 11 people have been rescued alive by the alert expert divers, who jump into the river without having much of a life support system available.

“Had we been given a proper set-up and if my boys had been accommodated as special police officers (SPOs) or in the State Disaster Response Force (SDRF), we would have been able to save many more people. No expert diver from outside can jump into the river Chenab like we do, as we know it in and out, but only social services can’t help our families to survive, as we need to earn a livelihood as well through different means,” Mushtaq Ahmed Sheikh, founder and head of Chenab Rescuers, told ETV Bharat.

Mushtaq is a resident of Pul Doda, and for the last 10 days, he and his team have been busy tracing the bodies of Abrar and Asrar but haven't had any success.

“If the government takes care of the livelihood of my boys, our team will be sitting alongside the river throughout the day, prepared, and in the time of any emergency, the reaction could be fast, and more lives could be saved. We had a motorboat, which was given by former Chief Minister Mehbooba Mufti, but we lost its engine in the river sometime back. We require a new boat to continue the rescue operations, but none is coming forward to help us,” he added.

At present, three major hydroelectric power projects are running on the Chenab River, which include the 900-megawatt Baghliar project, which is with the J&K government, and the Salal and Dul-Hasti projects, which are with the National Hydroelectric Power Corporation (NHPC), but none have done anything for the welfare of the people. They have constructed the reservoirs, but there is no mechanism in place to help with rescue operations if any untoward incident occurs or somebody falls inside the reservoir.

Now, the GoI as well as the Jammu and Kashmir government are eyeing harnessing the potential of the Chenab water, as it is the only river of the region where some of the water can be diverted for other purposes.

On one side, there is a proposal for constructing a 110-km-long canal to take water from Chenab in the Akhnoor area towards neighbouring Punjab, but on the other hand, Chief Minister Omar Abdullah, as recently as on Friday, claimed that he would not allow this to happen and the people of Jammu deserve to take the benefit of the water.

 
These hindutvadis are so gullible. Modi and media are selling them pipe dreams like these and they are lapping it up.

Chinese have best Civil engineers and are experienced in large scaled construction. Yet their SNWTP is supposed to be completed in 2050 ! Now compare that with India, a nation that can't even produce a half decent plane (teja samosa is a prime example) is dreaming about projects like these.

I actually want India to embark on this project. Start spending around 60 billion dollars on a project that they will probably complete by the end of this century only to divert 25 % of our water ! All the while Pakistan will be a push of a button away to bringing these bollywood dreamers back to reality. :afridi
Oh munna..you have so much to learn.
Building a modern jet is much harder than a civil engineering project technology wise.. India has already built dams ...

Anyhow India doesn't need the water...it is Pakistan who needs the water...even the mere utterance of what India would do has your Bilwala ka puttar frothitn in mouth and accusing India of water war. LMAO...all India needs to do is use their current 20 percent allocation and Pak is screwed. Then it needs to use 1 percent of paks allocated water for Pak awam to blast their military rules. What will Pak do ...push of a button to destroy a dam and flood themselves... A internationally known terrorists state openly attacking civilian dam and causing eco terrorism...in a more powerful country with 0 geographic breadth scale and water scarcity ...love this...so yeah maybe use the button on kishenhanj and then talk... As we all saw at Sindoor...barking dogs seldom bite.
 
Pakistan is now emboldened and knows that when push comes to shove it can destroy the dams when and if need be. It will have legal justification to do so. Pakistan's air superiority will be unmatched for the foreseeable future and they will go for an all out attack in western theatre first to neutralise all the assets that Indian can use to launch a conventional all out attack quickly.... bit like what's happening to Iran at the moment. India will be reduced to launching missiles from deep inside its own territory.

Your best assets will have to moved atleast 500 km or more down south from the border. If they are not there already.

The spectre of one side going nuclear increases many fold at this point.
Are bhaiyaa..your ever superior PAF will do everything theoretically and in propaganda...abhi bhi BVR hai...you can destroy the dams if you have guts...India cannot stop you. And with your low quality Chinese fifth gen ..you can do all that you want to do in your dreams... Destroy Indian ships air bases cities and towns...just look at your big brother China .with 100s of fifth gen aircrafts doing nothing to India and always helping. pakistan when they get their asses handed to them ... Love your dreams..but think where your planes will land
 
Pakistan is now emboldened and knows that when push comes to shove it can destroy the dams when and if need be. It will have legal justification to do so. Pakistan's air superiority will be unmatched for the foreseeable future and they will go for an all out attack in western theatre first to neutralise all the assets that Indian can use to launch a conventional all out attack quickly.... bit like what's happening to Iran at the moment. India will be reduced to launching missiles from deep inside its own territory.

Your best assets will have to moved atleast 500 km or more down south from the border. If they are not there already.

The spectre of one side going nuclear increases many fold at this point.
Why 500 km munna...nothing. Is safe ..your brave pilots on. Stealth fighter still can't enter Indian territory and will only fire from your side..woh to abhi bhi Kar sakta hai...why need fifth gen.. missiles are still the same...didn't you see all the high quality satellite images that Pak shared of the damages in Delhi and 20 airbases in India...even NYT shared it.
 
Either India shares water fairly or we will secure it from ‘all 6 rivers’: Bilawal

Former foreign minister and PPP Chairman Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari on Monday said India has the option to either share water fairly or “we will deliver water to us from all six (Indus river system) rivers”.

Delhi unilaterally suspended its participation in the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty (IWT), which governs the usage of the Indus river system, on April 23, shortly after 26 civilians were killed in India-held Kashmir. Delhi, without evidence, blamed Islamabad for the attack. The latter has denied the allegations and called for a neutral probe. The accord remains dormant despite a ceasefire agreed upon by the two nuclear-armed neighbours last month following their worst fighting in decades.

The Foreign Office (FO) on Saturday had slammed Indian Home Minister Amit Shah’s “brazen disregard” for international agreements after the latter said New Delhi would never restore the IWT with Pakistan.


Speaking in the National Assembly during a session on the federal budget, Bilawal said, “India has two options: share water fairly, or we will deliver water to us from all six rivers.”

“The attack on Sindhu [Indus River] and India’s claim that the IWT has ended and it’s in abeyance, firstly, this is illegal, as the IWT is not in abeyance, it is binding on Pakistan and India, but the threat itself of stopping water is illegal according to the UN charter,” the former foreign minister said.

He continued that if India decides to follow through on the threat, we will have to wage war again

He added that hopefully Pakistan won’t have to, but if it does have to, it is in the position to defeat India the same way it just did.

Bilawal further told lawamkers that peace between the two nuclear neighbours is impossible without cooperation, especially in counterterrorism efforts. “If India and Pakistan refuse to talk, and if there is no coordination on terrorism, then violence will only intensify in both countries,” he warned.

He said India was weaponising terrorism for political purposes. “India seeks to exploit terrorism as a political tool to harm Pakistan’s international standing,” he said, adding that during his diplomatic visits to the United Kingdom and European Union as foreign minister, it became evident that India had lobbied hard to reverse Pakistan’s progress on the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) front.

“At a time when Pakistan had successfully moved from the FATF grey list to the white list, India made every effort to drag us back to the grey list using false narratives and diplomatic pressure,” he said. “But thanks to our Foreign Office, the prime minister, and his team, those efforts failed. Once again, Pakistan won — and India lost.”

Bilawal also urged renewed dialogue between Pakistan and India to curb regional instability. He added, “We are fighting not only for the public of Pakistan but also of India as well.”

He strongly criticised what he called Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s dangerous doctrine of escalation. “Under Modi’s new ‘abnormal’, any terrorist incident in India becomes an automatic pretext for launching hostilities against Pakistan,” Bilawal warned.

He questioned what would happen if Pakistan were to adopt the same policy. “We suffer from terrorist attacks ten times more than India, many of which are traced back to Indian funding or involvement. Should we then adopt a policy of automatic retaliation, too? That would mean surrendering our future to the will of terrorists.

“That might be Modi’s vision, but it is not ours. We will not let terrorists dictate regional peace,” he declared.

Last week, addressing a crowd of supporters, Bilawal had said that New Delhi must accept the IWT. Pakistan’s narrative had prevailed, not only in diplomatic circles, but also across international media, he claimed.

Earlier in the month, Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif also condemned India’s unilateral suspension of the IWT, describing it as a “blatant violation and act of water aggression”, and warned that Pakistan would give a befitting response in line with decisions made at the National Security Committee (NSC) meeting held on April 24.

Source: Dawn News
Can't wait for this idiot to become 2 saal ka pm before Munir does what zia did to his grandfather
 
Oh munna..you have so much to learn.
Building a modern jet is much harder than a civil engineering project technology wise.. India has already built dams ...

Anyhow India doesn't need the water...it is Pakistan who needs the water...even the mere utterance of what India would do has your Bilwala ka puttar frothitn in mouth and accusing India of water war. LMAO...all India needs to do is use their current 20 percent allocation and Pak is screwed. Then it needs to use 1 percent of paks allocated water for Pak awam to blast their military rules. What will Pak do ...push of a button to destroy a dam and flood themselves... A internationally known terrorists state openly attacking civilian dam and causing eco terrorism...in a more powerful country with 0 geographic breadth scale and water scarcity ...love this...so yeah maybe use the button on kishenhanj and then talk... As we all saw at Sindoor...barking dogs seldom bite.
Ok I am going to tag just this post and try to answer in one.

I have to start walking you through everything like a child......

So going from stopping Pakistan's water to "all India needs to do is use their current 20 percent allocation and Pak is screwed". So now you begin to understand things more clearly... well finally!!... There was/is conflation with stopping water, which India cannot do, but what I can do is try to utilise its own share fully but it requires infrastructure. Thats India's share so there is nothing Pakistan can do about that, if they put it through towards Pakistan then thats on India. See how you have been gullibly led to believe that India is threatening to shut off water, which is not the case.

The treaty is legally binding. If at some point in future India builds infrastructure that can limit Pakistani share then at that point, Pakistan will not wait, they will destroy everything and like what Israel done, it will be an all out attack on the western from to knock everything out completely (and not just dams) and then progress southwards. India like Iran will have to rely on its missiles.
 
Ok I am going to tag just this post and try to answer in one.

I have to start walking you through everything like a child......

So going from stopping Pakistan's water to "all India needs to do is use their current 20 percent allocation and Pak is screwed". So now you begin to understand things more clearly... well finally!!... There was/is conflation with stopping water, which India cannot do, but what I can do is try to utilise its own share fully but it requires infrastructure. Thats India's share so there is nothing Pakistan can do about that, if they put it through towards Pakistan then thats on India. See how you have been gullibly led to believe that India is threatening to shut off water, which is not the case.

The treaty is legally binding. If at some point in future India builds infrastructure that can limit Pakistani share then at that point, Pakistan will not wait, they will destroy everything and like what Israel done, it will be an all out attack on the western from to knock everything out completely (and not just dams) and then progress southwards. India like Iran will have to rely on its missiles.
Real politik doesn't work in the way you think they work. Pak is water starved. India using it's allocated share will screw your country way of life negatively without violating the illegal treaty. That's step 1 punishment for sponsoring terrorism in past. Yes you can't do anything about it.

Step 2 ..already implemented is data sharing has been stopped..it is because India does not recognize the treaty...what is Pakistan doing about it.

Step 3.. just yesterday India refused to recognize international arbitration on the kishenganj and another project...moving forward. What are you gonna do about it.

Now this is where you need to understand..we don't really need the water or the full water allocated illegally due to an unjust treaty..we may need some amount of water and that could be negotiated. But beyond that this is just a means to punish a terrorist state..terrorist attack..water faucet turned on or off. Even a small amount of water flow..will have a political effect on your country ..may not be affecting irrigation but your country s ever powerful and invincible army will be given gaali by hyper nationalist but less educated folks.

Now if you go by history ..back when India and Pakistan were both poor countries but Pak was backed with the best western weaponary .you lost half your country in 1971.. humiliated when you tried to attack Kashmir in 65 and ran to uncle papa in Kargil and Sindoor and lost Siachen...so you can imagine what will happen to you now. I know you live in La La Land and don't know what will happen but ask your ministers...they go and cry nuclear war as soon as modi utters a sentence and panic predicts an Indian attack in 4 hours in national TV and suspends a retaliation in four hours...so yes you can surely bomb the dam..nothing stopping you. Even now..you don't need fifth gen technology for that...but I can guarantee you your army won't have the guts to do it - they will use the terrorists most likely..
That's the Hallmark of a weaker nation..won't say coward but a smart country which knows it cant match up in a direct war.
 
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The treaty is legally binding. If at some point in future India builds infrastructure that can limit Pakistani share then at that point, Pakistan will not wait, they will destroy everything and like what Israel done, it will be an all out attack on the western from to knock everything out completely (and not just dams) ..

You do realise if Pakistan bombs the dam, the water avalanche will flood places like Pakistani Punjab instantly, it will be even more catastrophic ..

Listen to me lad, the solution is simple: get rid of the camel cowboy mindset, let go of islamic extemism, terrorism, etc, work on the economy, bring your country back from the ashes, you can achieve it, if all of Pakistan focus on development for the next 50 years...

If you choose to bury your heads in the hole, then you are finished
 
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