Did Arsenal go overboard with their celebrations during/after their game against Liverpool?

[Technics 1210]

It was blates OTT celebration. Reminded of the time Arsenal celebrated when defeating Tottenham last season, and we all know how the season ended for Arsenal.

I do not mind Arteta's celebration, understandable, he is under pressure, at home, and secured 3 points, but talking photos is where I draw the line. This was not a trophy win, but a league fixture win, at home, and Liverpool without Salah yet the way some of the Arsenal players and team members were taking photos at the end was indicative of the insecure mindset at Arsenal, as if, the players/team members knew deep down they fluked a win against Liverpool.

Remember, Arsenal were celebrating their win over Luton as if it were a trophy win too.

Small ambitions with OTT celebrations.

 

[Mamoon]

It was blates OTT celebration. Reminded of the time Arsenal celebrated when defeating Tottenham last season, and we all know how the season ended for Arsenal.

I do not mind Arteta's celebration, understandable, he is under pressure, at home, and secured 3 points, but talking photos is where I draw the line. This was not a trophy win, but a league fixture win, at home, and Liverpool without Salah yet the way some of the Arsenal players and team members were taking photos at the end was indicative of the insecure mindset at Arsenal, as if, the players/team members knew deep down they fluked a win against Liverpool.

Remember, Arsenal were celebrating their win over Luton as if it were a trophy win too.

Small ambitions with OTT celebrations.

Here comes another subject matter expert on celebrations. I didn’t know there were so many out there.

I put your fellow subject matter experts @Amjid Javed @topspin and @aboveandbeyond on the spot but they failed to walk the talk and completely bottled it.

Let’s see if you are cut from the same cloth. As an expert on celebrations, why don’t you enlighten us by defining the parameters of acceptable celebrations and OTT celebrations?

What is the threshold of an acceptable celebration? Moreover, is there an overlap or a grey area where a celebration can be perceived as both acceptable and OTT?

In fact, why don’t you record a video of yourself and demonstrate how Arsenal should have celebrated the goals and the win vs Liverpool.

Since you have a problem with Arsenal celebrating a 97th min winner vs Luton, why don’t you also record a video to showcase how Rice, Arteta and other players should have celebrated that winner.

We can share the recordings with Arsenal so that they can watch and learn how to keep their celebrations in the acceptable category and not tread into the OTT category.

 

[Mamoon]

You can’t seem to define the parameters of acceptable and over the top celebrations.

 

[Amjid Javed]

You can’t seem to define the parameters of acceptable and over the top celebrations.

Pakistan cut cake to celebrate milestones

Arsenal do similar pathetic stuff.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Mikel Arteta: Arsenal manager defends celebrations after vital win over Liverpool

Mikel Arteta says he will continue to show emotion despite being criticised for over-celebrating Arsenal's 3-1 win over Premier League leaders Liverpool.

Arteta sprinted down the touchline when his side scored, before saluting fans with fist pumps at the end of Sunday's crucial game as the Gunners moved two points behind Jurgen Klopp's men.

Sky Sports pundit Gary Neville said there was a "little bit of immaturity" in Arsenal's celebrations.

Arteta said: "Personally, I love it."

"It brings such a passion and emotion to the game when it's done in a natural and unique way," added the Spaniard.

Gunners captain Martin Odegaard was also told to "get down the tunnel" by Sky Sports pundit and ex-Liverpool defender Jamie Carragher after borrowing a camera from a club photographer to take pictures at full-time.

"If you're not allowed to celebrate when you win a game, when are you allowed to celebrate?" Odegaard responded after the game.

Arteta added: "I love it. I've seen managers at the Emirates, away [at other stadiums] on their knees inside the pitch. I've seen very big managers going across the touchline in the Premier League.

"I think it's great but it's my opinion and other people may think something different."

'I love it' - Arteta defends Arsenal celebrations

Mikel Arteta says criticism of Arsenal's celebrations following their vital win over Premier League leaders Liverpool will not stop him from showing emotion on the touchline.

www.bbc.com

 

[Mamoon]

Pakistan cut cake to celebrate milestones

Arsenal do similar pathetic stuff.

I ask again - please define the parameters of acceptable celebrations.

Don’t pollute the discourse by bringing the Pakistan cricket team to the table.

Arsenal do “pathetic stuff”. Please demonstrate how they should celebrate to ensure that the celebrations are not categorized as OTT.

How many times are you going to bottle this question?

 

[MK7Z]

Did anybody answer @Mamoon question about what is the limit to celebrating a win?

The reason I ask is nobody seems to be mentioning Porto's celebrations last night, considering its only halfway through the tie.

So why is it Arsenal who are judged on their celebrations yet Porto not even mentioned by anybody?

Yes there maybe some bitterness in my post but I like people to have a balance view so please I encourage you all to make a thread about Porto's celebrating to and discuss.

 

[topspin]

Did anybody answer @Mamoon question about what is the limit to celebrating a win?

The reason I ask is nobody seems to be mentioning Porto's celebrations last night, considering its only halfway through the tie.

So why is it Arsenal who are judged on their celebrations yet Porto not even mentioned by anybody?

Yes there maybe some bitterness in my post but I like people to have a balance view so please I encourage you all to make a thread about Porto's celebrating to and discuss.

I didn’t answer his question because he here’s just to troll and it’s got to that point where it’s obvious that he’s merely here to troll.

He used to be fine poster but it’s become obvious that he has a unique appetite for mediocrity as evident by his liking of Zinchenko, Havertz, Imam-ul-Haq, Ahmed Shehzad and Babar Azam’s captaincy.

In response to the topic raised by Mamoon. The question isn’t a sincere one. It’s worded in a way that implicates anyone who doesn’t approve of Arsenal’s celebrations is by default guilty of being hard handed.

This simply isn’t the case and I can prove that by saying in unambiguous terms that I never had an issue with Arteta’s celebrations.

So you may wonder what was my issue with Arsenal’s celebrations? There were two things:

1. Odegaard’s as captain celebrating like he’s won the World Cup. I got second hand embarrassment because it reeked of small team mentality. In one of the group chats, I’m involved in, there’s another Arsenal fan on there as well as a Liverpool fan. Like myself, they both found it very cringeworthy.

2. The media criticising Arsenal for their celebrations as if they were all in on the act, when really the issue was just involving one player, albeit the captain himself.

If we want to get an idea of what’s acceptable and what’s over the top. All I suggest for you to do is go compare the post-match reaction of Odegaard vs Liverpool and the Invincibles in equivalent fixtures. You would never see such scenes with the latter because they saved such celebrations for when they actually won something. It’s simple as that.

Finally, I’ll address a point I made earlier about me not having an issue with Arteta’s celebrations. However after having said, I must highlight that he is complicit because he appointed Odegaard as captain and he isn’t the addressing the issue with him and the weak mentality in the rest of the side.

Raya, Zinchenko, Havertz and Odegaard are all his golden boys. Arteta doesn’t hold them to higher standards because they are his besties.
Arteta did the right thing with Ozil and Aubameyang but I want him to be consistent. He should not take sh1t from anyone in the squad, not just from those who have bruised his ego.

 

[MK7Z]

I didn’t answer his question because he here’s just to troll and it’s got to that point where it’s obvious that he’s merely here to troll.

He used to be fine poster but it’s become obvious that he has a unique appetite for mediocrity as evident by his liking of Zinchenko, Havertz, Imam-ul-Haq, Ahmed Shehzad and Babar Azam’s captaincy.

In response to the topic raised by Mamoon. The question isn’t a sincere one. It’s worded in a way that implicates anyone who doesn’t approve of Arsenal’s celebrations is by default guilty of being hard handed.

This simply isn’t the case and I can prove that by saying in unambiguous terms that I never had an issue with Arteta’s celebrations.

So you may wonder what was my issue with Arsenal’s celebrations? There were two things:

1. Odegaard’s as captain celebrating like he’s won the World Cup. I got second hand embarrassment because it reeked of small team mentality. In one of the group chats, I’m involved in, there’s another Arsenal fan on there as well as a Liverpool fan. Like myself, they both found it very cringeworthy.

2. The media criticising Arsenal for their celebrations as if they were all in on the act, when really the issue was just involving one player, albeit the captain himself.

If we want to get an idea of what’s acceptable and what’s over the top. All I suggest for you to do is go compare the post-match reaction of Odegaard vs Liverpool and the Invincibles in equivalent fixtures. You would never see such scenes with the latter because they saved such celebrations for when they actually won something. It’s simple as that.

Finally, I’ll address a point I made earlier about me not having an issue with Arteta’s celebrations. However after having said, I must highlight that he is complicit because he appointed Odegaard as captain and he isn’t the addressing the issue with him and the weak mentality in the rest of the side.

Raya, Zinchenko, Havertz and Odegaard are all his golden boys. Arteta doesn’t hold them to higher standards because they are his besties.
Arteta did the right thing with Ozil and Aubameyang but I want him to be consistent. He should not take sh1t from anyone in the squad, not just from those who have bruised his ego.

Sorry bro I can never tell if that guy is trolling or not as it may have come across as I was gaslighting.

I just wanted to point out the Porto celebrations and lack of comments on them and nobody seem to have taken issue with it.

I have said before I cant care less about how teams like to celebrate their wins, I care about what happens in the 90+ mins on the pitch, the whole social media etc is a choice whether we decide to let it get to us or not.

I am 100% with you about Martin Odegaard, I said at the time I dont get that. It was odd and can only pin it down to some kind of personal relationship he has with Stuart and they got caught up in the moment. Tell you what though, its made great meme lol.

 

[Amjid Javed]

@MK7Z @topspin have a watch of Henry's comments on Wednesday after Arsenal and Barca games in champions league when he tells the story about when he joined Barca and was told off by xavi.

It gives an insight to Henry when he 1st joined Barca and Also he talks about when he 1st went to Arsenal as well. The expectations in dressing room.

"Only talk when you win something", that's how you will be remembered at a football club.

Arsenal now are more interested in media traction with behaviour then all tye silly childish gimics and celebrations.

Henry summed up what its like when a club has expectations and accountability, something Arsenal stopped doing when they moved to the emirates

 

[topspin]

Sorry bro I can never tell if that guy is trolling or not as it may have come across as I was gaslighting.

I'm beyond certain that he's here merely here to troll and is more interested in point scoring. A good case in point is when he was throwing dig at my shortlist for potential number 9 acquisitions, which I thought was a reasonable list of centre forwards that Arsenal should lay eyes on. You responded to him requesting for his own list but he still hasn't posted it because he's more interested in throwing digs at others.

I've never seen an Arsenal fan who is more interesting in proving a point and that they were right about so and so after a game.

I just wanted to point out the Porto celebrations and lack of comments on them and nobody seem to have taken issue with it.

I have said before I cant care less about how teams like to celebrate their wins, I care about what happens in the 90+ mins on the pitch, the whole social media etc is a choice whether we decide to let it get to us or not.

I am 100% with you about Martin Odegaard, I said at the time I dont get that. It was odd and can only pin it down to some kind of personal relationship he has with Stuart and they got caught up in the moment. Tell you what though, its made great meme lol.

Certainly a great meme

 

[BouncerGuy]

For the celebration police.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1761294839461629962

 

[BouncerGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1773706936476647598