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Dinesh Karthik retires from all formats of cricket [Post Updated #355]

LMAO after 13-14 years of international cricket he finally plays a match winning knock.
 
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Brilliant inning.. We all were critical of his team selection.

Nevertheless, this is a very special inning from him and deserves respect for it.
 
This was his moment of glory atleast he found one so kudos to him.. Very good knock today..
 
I feel so happy for DK. He's been a great guy who never really got the opportunities he deserved. Just take today's match as an example, after all that he did in the tournament he got demoted for the sake of useless Vijay Shankar. That's his career in a nutshell. Glad he got out of it on top.
 
With this knock now he would be permenant member of playing11 and breathing down the neck of ms dhoni.
With good ipl he can seriously claim for wicketkeeper spot in 2019 wc.
 
Didn't watch the series except this match but boy this Shankar dude is a sheer waste of spot.

DK has something to show when he retires .. good for him.
 
introvert said:
With this knock now he would be permenant member of playing11 and breathing down the neck of ms dhoni.
With good ipl he can seriously claim for wicketkeeper spot in 2019 wc.
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He will be a permanent member in odi n t20's for India till 2019. Can't ignore him after his knock today.
 
He seems to be a bit of an eternal bridesmaid from what I've seen having Dhoni ahead of him. What surprised me is why someone like Pandey or Jadhav get a chance ahead of him for India. Kartik looks technical sounds from the little I've seen of him. Both Jadhav and especially Pandey have obvious technical deficiences.
 
Make him keep for odi's too ahead of dhoni then indian batting will be more strong

He has got lot of potential,at worse he will do better than current dhoni
 
Gabbar Singh said:
LMAO after 13-14 years of international cricket he finally plays a match winning knock.
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He played a match winning test knock at the age of 19 against Pakistan. He underachieved given his potential. Also go back to India's first ever T20. He was the man of the match.
 
I think both Dhoni & Karthik will be part of the team from now on. Karthik used to be a tremendous fielder too ... still remember his catch at slip to dismiss Graeme Smith in the 2007 T20WC. Don't know how he fields these days but will still be better than Jadhav/Iyer.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
He played a match winning test knock at the age of 19 against Pakistan. He underachieved given his potential. Also go back to India's first ever T20. He was the man of the match.
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What under achieved? He was just born in the wrong era to share an era with arguably the GOAT keeper in ODI’s is not his fault.. He just never got a consistent run during his peak years because of Dhoni..

Same thing happened to McGill, Badrinath, Haddin and few others whose names I can’t remember I guess..
 
big_gamer007 said:
What under achieved? He was just born in the wrong era to share an era with arguably the GOAT keeper in ODI’s is not his fault.. He just never got a consistent run during his peak years because of Dhoni..

Same thing happened to McGill, Badrinath, Haddin and few others whose names I can’t remember I guess..
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He is technically a far superior batsman to Dhoni. But Dhoni's x factor trumped Karthik. Dinesh Karthik did have good outing in England and SOuth Africa as a test opener. Just that he didn't move on to next level. Consistent domestic performances is still keeping him in the radar. Hope he makes up for all the lost years. A fine batsman to watch when in full flow.
 
Joginder_Sharma said:
I think both Dhoni & Karthik will be part of the team from now on. Karthik used to be a tremendous fielder too ... still remember his catch at slip to dismiss Graeme Smith in the 2007 T20WC. Don't know how he fields these days but will still be better than Jadhav/Iyer.
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Etched in my memory forever,never expected to win that game.
 
Kartik always seemed to be a technically far superior batsman to Dhoni in tests even before. How did Saha get in instead of Kartik when Dhoni retired. An Indian fans can throw some light?
 
Just found out he's apparently Kolkata's new caption in the IPL. Lol great timing to answer the doubters as I can't imagine that decision going down well :P
 
jnaveen1980 said:
He is technically a far superior batsman to Dhoni. But Dhoni's x factor trumped Karthik. Dinesh Karthik did have good outing in England and SOuth Africa as a test opener. Just that he didn't move on to next level. Consistent domestic performances is still keeping him in the radar. Hope he makes up for all the lost years. A fine batsman to watch when in full flow.
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You don’t need technique in LOI’s these days as most of the pitches are flat all over the world.. On slow pitches Indian batsmen are generally okay only issue they face is on swinging conditions and very few times in LOi’s such pitches/conditions happen e.g. Asia cup in BD.. So DK like I said was born in wrong era Dhoni for his time was just far ahead of any other wicket keeper in LOI’s.. DK could have cracked it in tests but o well he has couple of years left so should enjoy while it lasts and make the most of it..
 
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. He played a brilliant inning today but the fact is he has been playing since 2004-2005 for India and still couldn't cement his place in the team after getting so many chances.
 
Rishta Aunty said:
Kartik always seemed to be a technically far superior batsman to Dhoni in tests even before. How did Saha get in instead of Kartik when Dhoni retired. An Indian fans can throw some light?
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Karthik dealt with a spate of injuries around the time of Saha's debut, and was not keeping wickets consistently in domestic cricket.

Even when Saha got injured and Parthiv got called up against England - actually Karthik deserved to be called up because he was back with the gloves and bat - but had just fractured his finger a few days before. And then Parthiv did well with the bat against England and made the trip to SA as 1st choice back-up. Karthik got there once both Saha and Parthiv got hurt, but it was too late for the tests at that point.

Karthik should have a couple of good years left in him for int'l cricket. By that time, someone amongst the young next-gen keeper-bats should be ready - Rishabh, Ishan, Sanju, or someone even younger.
 
Gabbar Singh said:
LMAO after 13-14 years of international cricket he finally plays a match winning knock.
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To his defence, India had Dhoni all those years, so its obvious his career will be overshadowed. But he has been unsung hero of India whenever he got the opportunity. I think India should seriously consider DK in lower order in ODIs instead of Jadhav.
 
Gosh! Now we'll have to deal with dk too... One innings shouldn't change the fact that he's a pathetic batsman.

It was Bangladesh. Against any non minnow,. He'll fail 9/10
 
Rishta Aunty said:
Kartik always seemed to be a technically far superior batsman to Dhoni in tests even before. How did Saha get in instead of Kartik when Dhoni retired. An Indian fans can throw some light?
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I will jump off a building before selecting Karthik over Saha in my test team.

Karthik the wk is just awful.

As a batsman, talented but inconsistent to the core.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
I will jump off a building before selecting Karthik over Saha in my test team.

Karthik the wk is just awful.

As a batsman, talented but inconsistent to the core.
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When you say awful. What do you mean? He is known for taking absolute blinders. Sometimes he misses out on dollies. But that was years back. Not the same anymore. He has done keeping for a while since he is back. Don't see any mistakes. His reach is much better than both Saha and Dhoni because of his acrobatic abilities.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
When you say awful. What do you mean? He is known for taking absolute blinders. Sometimes he misses out on dollies. But that was years back. Not the same anymore. He has done keeping for a while since he is back. Don't see any mistakes. His reach is much better than both Saha and Dhoni because of his acrobatic abilities.
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I can see where SIF is coming from. Saha has played ultra patient knocks. Don't think Karthik can do that. But yes he is the more dangerous batsman.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
I can see where SIF is coming from. Saha has played ultra patient knocks. Don't think Karthik can do that. But yes he is the more dangerous batsman.
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The truth is DK is still the worst specialist batsman in Indian cricket history to have played 100+ International games (All formats combined)
Well played in the final but 11-12 years and still a nobody means a TTF
 
lehen said:
The truth is DK is still the worst specialist batsman in Indian cricket history to have played 100+ International games (All formats combined)
Well played in the final but 11-12 years and still a nobody means a TTF
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He wasn't a specialist batsman until Dhoni came in. Dinesh as a specialist batsman

7 tests average 39.15


In T20

Dhoni 89 matches not a single man of the match awards

KKD 19 matches 2 man of the match awards.

Dhoni if anything screwed us over in the world T20 final.
 
lehen said:
The truth is DK is still the worst specialist batsman in Indian cricket history to have played 100+ International games (All formats combined)
Well played in the final but 11-12 years and still a nobody means a TTF
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Sorry Rohit Sharma's average was under 30 after 80 odd ODI games. If he had never played another ODI after that, people would have called him just that, a TTF. Dinesh Karthik always played under pressure of being dropped. He started his career very well. Crucial member of Indian team which won the 2007 test series in England, scored 263 runs at an average of 44 with 3 fifties as an opener. He has the talent but just that his good performances has been few and far in between. He just did not enjoy the same sort of faith and backing Rohit did at the start of his career. It is hard for players to play few games and then get dropped and then get picked few years later and get dropped again. DK has just played 79 ODI's in 14 years and averages 29.92, not a dissimilar stat to Rohit Sharma after the same number of games.
 
IPL will show if he is a certified clutch or if this was a one off. Apparently he's the captain of KKR.
 
I don't care if he was a failure before or not. The way he has been batting these days deserves a good run in the playing XI.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
He is technically a far superior batsman to Dhoni. But Dhoni's x factor trumped Karthik. Dinesh Karthik did have good outing in England and SOuth Africa as a test opener. Just that he didn't move on to next level. Consistent domestic performances is still keeping him in the radar. Hope he makes up for all the lost years. A fine batsman to watch when in full flow.
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More of an ex-factor now for Dhoni these days.
 
Happy for him.

As expected, the final had the attention of the cricketing world and DK performed at the most difficult of times. Hope this spurs him to achieve great things in the rest of his career. What hitting by him!
 
jnaveen1980 said:
When you say awful. What do you mean? He is known for taking absolute blinders. Sometimes he misses out on dollies. But that was years back. Not the same anymore. He has done keeping for a while since he is back. Don't see any mistakes. His reach is much better than both Saha and Dhoni because of his acrobatic abilities.
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He doesn't keep for TN India will never pick non keeping keeper for test matches.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
When you say awful. What do you mean? He is known for taking absolute blinders. Sometimes he misses out on dollies. But that was years back. Not the same anymore. He has done keeping for a while since he is back. Don't see any mistakes. His reach is much better than both Saha and Dhoni because of his acrobatic abilities.
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I meant what i said.

He is a rubbish wk. Few great takes mean nothing.

Him and Parthiv are just awful.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
I meant what i said.

He is a rubbish wk. Few great takes mean nothing.

Him and Parthiv are just awful.
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That makes a lot of sense. As a Pakistan fan, I know first hand how dangerous it is to select a keeper based on batting skills. I gotta say though that Kartik looks like a better bet even as a specialist batsman than some of the other options you have. Looking at you, Jadhav and Pandey.

Another question: I was talking to my roomate who's from Chennai and he claims that Kartik didn't get anywhere close to the chances he deserved in comparison to say, Rohit Sharma, simply cause of a regional bias in selections. Any truth in that?
 
Patel gave away way more runs with his pathetic keeping than what he scored in the last series against southafrica. Poor keepers have no place in test cricket.
 
Mercurial said:
Will Dhoni be dropped from the T20I team?
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Should be, although won't be. He has added little value to the T20I team over the years.

Moreover, I echo SRT's views on the format - it is for young cricketers to get exposure and opportunity to play under pressure. If not for DK, Dhoni should allow some young WK batsman to replace him (Pant, Samson, KL). We have not won anything substantial in this format since the first world cup, might as well rejig the team.
 
BreadPakoda said:
Should be, although won't be. He has added little value to the T20I team over the years.

Moreover, I echo SRT's views on the format - it is for young cricketers to get exposure and opportunity to play under pressure. If not for DK, Dhoni should allow some young WK batsman to replace him (Pant, Samson, KL). We have not won anything substantial in this format since the first world cup, might as well rejig the team.
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Virat has already said that MSD is an integral part of the team. That means nobody can force MSD out of the T20 team unless MSD himself decides to. It doesnt matter how he performs he is permanent.

Basically he is your typical Indian government employee.
 
Rishta Aunty said:
That makes a lot of sense. As a Pakistan fan, I know first hand how dangerous it is to select a keeper based on batting skills. I gotta say though that Kartik looks like a better bet even as a specialist batsman than some of the other options you have. Looking at you, Jadhav and Pandey.

Another question: I was talking to my roomate who's from Chennai and he claims that Kartik didn't get anywhere close to the chances he deserved in comparison to say, Rohit Sharma, simply cause of a regional bias in selections. Any truth in that?
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That is true. That has always been the case. Maybe nowadays the bias is not so strong but except @SIF everyone else knows that DK should have played more for India
 
Rishta Aunty said:
That makes a lot of sense. As a Pakistan fan, I know first hand how dangerous it is to select a keeper based on batting skills. I gotta say though that Kartik looks like a better bet even as a specialist batsman than some of the other options you have. Looking at you, Jadhav and Pandey.

Another question: I was talking to my roomate who's from Chennai and he claims that Kartik didn't get anywhere close to the chances he deserved in comparison to say, Rohit Sharma, simply cause of a regional bias in selections. Any truth in that?
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Regional biases were always there (its even there now) but Karthik lost his place because he was inconsistent.

Look at his stats. The sample sets aren't small.

He looked like he turned over a new leaf in 2013 but was dropped after he started flopping.

I hope he has really changed now (has been scoring prolifically in domestic cricket) but i won't hold my breath.

I thought India made a huge mistake never giving Uthappa 2.0 a proper run.
 
Rishta Aunty said:
That makes a lot of sense. As a Pakistan fan, I know first hand how dangerous it is to select a keeper based on batting skills. I gotta say though that Kartik looks like a better bet even as a specialist batsman than some of the other options you have. Looking at you, Jadhav and Pandey.

Another question: I was talking to my roomate who's from Chennai and he claims that Kartik didn't get anywhere close to the chances he deserved in comparison to say, Rohit Sharma, simply cause of a regional bias in selections. Any truth in that?
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its partly true , DK probably deserved a longer than he got , but on big problem was he was tagged as a Wk-Bat though he was good enough to play as a batsmen alone . This kind of killed his chances as he was always seen as a backup option for Dhoni till recently .

As for Rohit , thats a very poor example . No one in Indian cricket got the number of chances he got to prove is "talent" for reasons only the selectors know .
 
karthikc said:
That is true. That has always been the case. Maybe nowadays the bias is not so strong but except @SIF everyone else knows that DK should have played more for India
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sensible-indian-fan said:
Regional biases were always there (its even there now) but Karthik lost his place because he was inconsistent.

Look at his stats. The sample sets aren't small.

He looked like he turned over a new leaf in 2013 but was dropped after he started flopping.

I hope he has really changed now (has been scoring prolifically in domestic cricket) but i won't hold my breath.

I thought India made a huge mistake never giving Uthappa 2.0 a proper run.
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jusarrived said:
its partly true , DK probably deserved a longer than he got , but on big problem was he was tagged as a Wk-Bat though he was good enough to play as a batsmen alone . This kind of killed his chances as he was always seen as a backup option for Dhoni till recently .

As for Rohit , thats a very poor example . No one in Indian cricket got the number of chances he got to prove is "talent" for reasons only the selectors know .
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So clearly Kartik should've got a chance before with a strong hint of regional bias playing a role. That's good; I always feel for people like Fawad Alam who keeps churning out runs domestically and never get a chance.
 
Rishta Aunty said:
So clearly Kartik should've got a chance before with a strong hint of regional bias playing a role. That's good; I always feel for people like Fawad Alam who keeps churning out runs domestically and never get a chance.
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Not regional bias , some of the cricketing centres are just more influential than others . Chennai , TN may not be among the Top 3 , but it does have its share of quota . Unfortunately the way it works is , if TN already has 1-2 players in the national team ( Ashwin / VJ ) it gets difficult for a 3rd player to get in , especially borderline cases like DK who himslef had to be blamed partly .
 
Who cares if DK has been playing for ages, still not cementing place!

Single handily changed the course of the match. Which keeper from India do you expect to score like this?
 
Watched the whole Indian innings to make sure the claims of greatness are not exaggerated. In the end, the hype was worth it. Hats off to him, what a knock. The last ball six was harder to make than what Miandad actually did as he got a full toss. Plus, Minded needed four runs so a boundary would have been enough but in Karthik's case, it was six or burst. However, Miandad literally carried the whole innings on his shoulders unlike Karthik.
 
saadibaba said:
Watched the whole Indian innings to make sure the claims of greatness are not exaggerated. In the end, the hype was worth it. Hats off to him, what a knock. The last ball six was harder to make than what Miandad actually did as he got a full toss. Plus, Minded needed four runs so a boundary would have been enough but in Karthik's case, it was six or burst. However, Miandad literally carried the whole innings on his shoulders unlike Karthik.
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Normally I would dismiss any comparison with the Miandad six but considering how the BD fans still talk about the 2007 win, Karthik probably saved us for a few years. And that makes it an extremely significant knock, even keeping aside its quality.

However, I would rate the impact of the Miandad six higher because I don't see Bangladesh feeling the six culturally the way India did.

The Miandad six phenomenon was also a product of its times and if it were to happen today, I don't see the Indian team looking nervy in future encounters or the fans feeling their vibes. Cricket is significantly less personal to our lives nowadays.
 
saadibaba said:
Watched the whole Indian innings to make sure the claims of greatness are not exaggerated. In the end, the hype was worth it. Hats off to him, what a knock. The last ball six was harder to make than what Miandad actually did as he got a full toss. Plus, Minded needed four runs so a boundary would have been enough but in Karthik's case, it was six or burst. However, Miandad literally carried the whole innings on his shoulders unlike Karthik.
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Thats not entirely true. Even a 4 would have meant that the match went to super over. So it was not 6 or bust.

Also, Miandad’s 6 came against their biggest rivals. As much as Bangladeshi fans may insist, the fact is India - Bangladesh rivalry in non existent.

It was a great innings nonetheless and should be considered legendary as it spared us another nagin dance.
 
pillionrider said:
Normally I would dismiss any comparison with the Miandad six but considering how the BD fans still talk about the 2007 win, Karthik probably saved us for a few years. And that makes it an extremely significant knock, even keeping aside its quality.

However, I would rate the impact of the Miandad six higher because I don't see Bangladesh feeling the six culturally the way India did.

The Miandad six phenomenon was also a product of its times and if it were to happen today, I don't see the Indian team looking nervy in future encounters or the fans feeling their vibes. Cricket is significantly less personal to our lives nowadays.
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Sidilicious said:
Thats not entirely true. Even a 4 would have meant that the match went to super over. So it was not 6 or bust.

Also, Miandad’s 6 came against their biggest rivals. As much as Bangladeshi fans may insist, the fact is India - Bangladesh rivalry in non existent.

It was a great innings nonetheless and should be considered legendary as it spared us another nagin dance.
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Agree, Miandad's six happened at a time when Pakistan-India rivalry was at its peak and cricket had more cultural impact on both countries. I remember watching it when I was a kid, and it still remains perhaps the most thrilling and joyful experience of my childhood, the moment is permanently etched in my mind. Now, the game has become so commonplace, both players and fans move on to other things quickly.
 
Pakistan legend Javed Miandad congratulates Indian hero Dinesh Karthik

Mumbai: Dinesh Karthik did a Javed Miandad — hitting a six off the last ball — to take India home in a thrilling final of the Nidahas Trophy in Colombo on Sunday. The Pakistan legend, who had pulled off a heist against India in 1986, on Tuesday congratulated Karthik for his spectacular show.

“I didn’t watch Karthik’s knock, I read about it in the papers. It requires a lot of confidence to hit a last-ball six. It is a pity for the bowler though,” Miandad added.

Miandad then wanted to know the boundary distance of the Colombo stadium. “Hitting a last-ball six has not remained unusual in modern-day cricket. My six is always compared with the other batsmen but one should remember that in those days, it was very difficult to pull it off. No batsman would ever think of it,” Miandad said.

The former Pakistan cricketer said the introduction of T20 has changed the dynamics of the game. “Power hitting has become common these days. Now, even scoring 30 runs in an over is possible,” he said. “I am proud that my last ball six is still remembered by the fans,” he added.

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/spo...congratulates-indian-hero-dinesh-karthik.html
 
Abdullah719 said:
Pakistan legend Javed Miandad congratulates Indian hero Dinesh Karthik

Mumbai: Dinesh Karthik did a Javed Miandad — hitting a six off the last ball — to take India home in a thrilling final of the Nidahas Trophy in Colombo on Sunday. The Pakistan legend, who had pulled off a heist against India in 1986, on Tuesday congratulated Karthik for his spectacular show.

“I didn’t watch Karthik’s knock, I read about it in the papers. It requires a lot of confidence to hit a last-ball six. It is a pity for the bowler though,” Miandad added.

Miandad then wanted to know the boundary distance of the Colombo stadium. “Hitting a last-ball six has not remained unusual in modern-day cricket. My six is always compared with the other batsmen but one should remember that in those days, it was very difficult to pull it off. No batsman would ever think of it,” Miandad said.

The former Pakistan cricketer said the introduction of T20 has changed the dynamics of the game. “Power hitting has become common these days. Now, even scoring 30 runs in an over is possible,” he said. “I am proud that my last ball six is still remembered by the fans,” he added.

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/spo...congratulates-indian-hero-dinesh-karthik.html
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I fail to see the congratulations part in this article? :13: :jm
 
Abdullah719 said:
I fail to see the congratulations part in this article? :13: :jm
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It was just him alone until now with that record. Now he has to share that with somebody who isn't even a regular in Indian team against a below average bowler in an average team in a non descript tournament. Now reread his interview.
 
Tbf I don't recall other ones than Karthick and Miandad in INTL games where it got the team to victory.
 
JaDed said:
Tbf I don't recall other ones than Karthick and Miandad in INTL games where it got the team to victory.
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Legend Zulfiqar Babar hit a six on last ball against Windies in an ODI match in 2013.
Also Morgan smashed a six on last ball against India (Dinda was bowler) in T20I match.
 
JaDed said:
Tbf I don't recall other ones than Karthick and Miandad in INTL games where it got the team to victory.
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Brendan Taylor v Mortaza in an ODI in Harare 2006
Klusner v NZ in a game in 1999 in Napier
Chanderpaul v SL Trinidad 2008 also did it (the only guy to have won the game with a six off last ball when SIX was required)

Asif Mujtaba hit a six off last ball v Aus (I think Steve Waugh) to tie the game
 
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