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I love Masala Dosa!
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Which restaurant is it?
This one, http://tasteofmalayalees.ca/menu.php
^ it's actually located behind a Malayalee super market, be sure to go there in the evenings, they have more Items on request
Menu looks yummy (despite being restricted to veggie choices). Next time I'm in Mississauga will give it a. try!
They have a lot of meat/sea food dishes, go to the bottom of the menu
no, There is this one great Restaurant here in Canada, owned by Malyalees which serves many of those dishes, of course it will be no match to what I will get in Kerala, hopefully one day will go there
A food song from my in- law city.
what city is that?
and whats yoru city might as well ask
Kozhikode a.k.a Calicut. The place where Vasco da Gama landed in search of India.
why would anyone change a perfectly good (and might I say well known) name like Calicut and rename it to hwayever it is now which half the world wont attempt to pronounce
The name had to have the dreaded "ZH" alphabet in there
Most people I know pronounce it as K-o-g-i-Kode.
95% of southie food is idli, dosa, sambhar & rice
why would anyone change a perfectly good (and might I say well known) name like Calicut and rename it to hwayever it is now which half the world wont attempt to pronounce
Because Indian masses and politicians are fools who change names for political mileage.
Calcutta turns into Kolkata.
Calicut turns into Kozhikode.
Bangalore turns into Bengaluru.
West Bengal should turn into Bengal but no......that's not logical.
It makes sense to remove the colonial names and restore the local names.
WB govt has asked the center to remain the state as Pashchim Banga.
Victoria Terminus in Mumbai was changed to Chatrapati Shivaji Terminus, and King George's medical College was changed to Chattrapati Shahuji Maharaj Medical College. And this makes sense. Why keep institutions named after foreign monarchs who colonized us?
That seems ok but city names are engraved in the minds of people and changing perfectly good names like Bangalore, Calicut, etc makes no sense.
why would anyone change a perfectly good (and might I say well known) name like Calicut and rename it to hwayever it is now which half the world wont attempt to pronounce
dreaded? We love that alphabet, as non-malayalees cannot pronounce it correctly.
Kozhicode, Kolkata and Bengaluru are also perfectly good names. With time they will get engraved in the minds of the people. Anyway, only the english medium educated elite used the earlier names. Locals used to use these names. And we must get rid of colonial vestiges wherever possible.
Disagree.
It was unnecessary and lame.
Outsiders are well familiar with these names and locals used these names too (even if they used other versions).
I can say with time, everyone would get used to actual old name.
Was Kozhicode, Bengaluru and Kolkata used prior to British renaming them?
Don't know about others, but Kolkata was the bengali and de-anglicized name for Calcutta and was used by local people. I think same must be true for Kozhicode and Bengaluru.
Then it makes sense for Kolkata.
Was Kozhikode and Bengaluru used before?
If names were changed just cos the masses want a local flavor and were given a choice, then its lame.
Also to be honest, considering British were here for several centuries and names like Calcutta were well established, I don't think its a bad idea to leave them as it is.
What is the loss in renaming a place to what locals call it. I don't buy this "well established" argument. Has the name change affected the cities in any negative way? These are just protestations of the elite who loves Anglicized names, and prefers the names their colonial masters gave them over the local ones. I know some bengalis whose surname is Pal, but they write it as Paul, the anglicized version.
There is not one negative effect caused by the name change. On the other hand there is a positive. The regional culture has been able to assert itself with the inclusive name, and have overthrown the colonial names which were reminders of cultural slavery.
The negative aspect is confusion and changing of the name in various places.
If Kolkata was called that before, then I think its fine to change it back to what it was.
But in general, I don't want to change names of all cities just cos some masses feel "Oh I need to get rid of the colonial mentality" and so choose some local name.
If you want to get rid of colonial mentality, we can do it by action. Not by all these fake gestures which are frankly done by politicians to appease the masses and the masses feel as if they have achieved something in life.
Confusion? Do you know if tourist numbers have dwindled because people cannot find the old city in the maps? Or have trains lost their way while going to the newly named city? How has the so called confusion negatively affected the city? Give a better reason.
Yes, we can get rid of colonial mentality by action. And renaming a city will not get rid of it entirely. But it is a step in getting rid of it and re asserting the regional identity. And every step must be lauded.
Yes, we can get rid of colonial mentality by action. And renaming a city will not get rid of it entirely. But it is a step in getting rid of it and re asserting the regional identity. And every step must be lauded.
And that is what I am asking, how was it a problem. What were the negative repercussions of the name change, except english medium elites getting annoyed and losing their fake anglicized identity.Changing of the name in various places is a problem.
Didn't mean confusion literally (my mistake) but yeah its kinda annoying for outsiders to see names changed.
Its not a step.
Its misplaced priorities and wastage of time.
Also overcompensation.
Not alien concepts in our country.
And that is what I am asking, how was it a problem. What were the negative repercussions of the name change, except english medium elites getting annoyed and losing their fake anglicized identity.
Then you are not aware of the powerful role symbolism and icons play in national/regional identity.
Was Kozhicode, Bengaluru and Kolkata used prior to British renaming them?
I am saying its a mess to change the name everywhere from records to public places to buses, trains, etc.
As for powerful role of symbolism, maybe I don't understand it.
But our rural masses have their own culture, religion for millenias and its not as if that has any impact on their progress.
I firmly believe all this is a huge waste of time. An act of "we are so proud of our culture even if we remain a mess as a society".
Guys!! Topic Is Food!!!! Get back on track
So your answer to the negative repercussion is the one time cost involved in changing the names in records and public places. Do you have any estimate on how much this one time cost of stationery and paint is?
I said its a mess. Not about cost.
Some places will have the name changed fast, some places it won't be.
Annoying stuff.
You said there is no negative aspect. I said there is. Negative aspect doesn't have to be ground breaking issue or super costly stuff to be negative.
what else is there to talk about South Indian food?
[MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION] do u have any idea about a certain halwa?? It is black in color and has cashewnuts.My neighours in mumbai were mallus.Whenever they came back from kerala they bought back goodies like banana chips, jackfruit chips and that halwa, the best halwa i had in my life.taste is very unique just don't remember the name
Surprising that a mumbaikar found a better halwa from kerala. Isn't Mumbai famous for its varities of halwas.
I love banana chips too. At first I was reluctant to eat anything cooked in coconut oil, but once I tasted it, I would empty the banana chips packet my mallu colleague would bring to office.
Mysore pak is heavenly just melts in your mouth
Yup i agree i esp like the one i get at Sri Krishna Sweets in Chennai if u ever go there make sure to taste it.
I don't think mumbai is famous for halwas!! Yes being cosmopolitan it has food from all over indian.Kerala halwa was damn good! kerala is famous for halwa. I have had banana halwa from there too.. There was travel/food show in india and the host himself when he visited cochin was suprised by different varities of halwa there
banana chips can be very addictive.!i can finish 3-4 packets in a jiffy!
I lived in chennai for 3 years worked at covansys tambaram. First time tasted iyengar bakery sandwitch and got addicted to it
I lived in chennai for 3 years worked at covansys tambaram. First time tasted iyengar bakery sandwitch and got addicted to it
[MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION] do u have any idea about a certain halwa?? It is black in color and has cashewnuts.My neighours in mumbai were mallus.Whenever they came back from kerala they bought back goodies like banana chips, jackfruit chips and that halwa, the best halwa i had in my life.taste is very unique just don't remember the name
.Surprising that a mumbaikar found a better halwa from kerala
Was Kozhikode and Bengaluru used before?
Kozhikode is famous for halwa.
But does that "mess" have any negative repercussion. So far your reasons have been intangibles (it is lame, it is annoying, it is confusing, it is a mess). Those are not negative aspects. I want to know what were the negative consequences of renaming the cities.
That is nice to know that malayalis have a sweet tooth.
I am not sure. Everyone I know avoids sweets. they are for children only
Most families will have at least one diabetic patient, so we avoid sweets generally
Does it taste like Bhaaji of paav-bhaji? Looks very similar.
We are not the Britishers slave anymore. So why keep the name that replaced the original one first?