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As we saw, India were humiliated by the PAF & pleaded with Donald Trump to request for a cease fire once a fitting & just response was provided following unprovoked attacks on innocent children.

However, they have been desperate to rewrite the narrative through sport, their clown PM bought the matter into cricket recently and the recent matches between India & Pakistan have been very politically motivated, poor sportsmanship and generally, India have not been able to compete with grace due to the embarrassment their army suffered at the hands of Pakistan.


Does the Asia Cup make Indians feel better now, (when you finally get that in the post
:yk3 )

I am not a huge fan of Naqvi’s personal opinions, but he has absolutely chinned Modi here, what a humiliation.
 
Pak has offered rare earth minerals to Trump recently and has nominated him for noble peace prize. Its very clear now who went to the usa making deals and asking for cease fire.

BTW, whatever jets pak shot please take a stock of them and preserve them in a museum naa so that future generations know what happened for real with proof than these articles and statements which will vanish in upcoming years.
 
No way indian Pm is this filth rofl rofl omg....how on earth are such childish people in bigger power roles

Indians burning since Javeds six and that fire is never going to cool down

Absolutely, even Naqvi didn’t make such comments; he could easily have rubbed it in to begin with, Modi is meant to be the head of state, but he’s just another comedian sour on getting humiliated by the PAF
 
Modi really should have stuck to making chai. This sort of statement is more becoming of a chaiwala than a statesman.

Embarrassing on so many levels. :facepalm:

Another comedian, there’s a trend these days with such so called leaders, the definition of small sword syndrome
 
If you ask AI politely to unshrek India, it can come up with something soothing like this Asia Cup after the PAF defeat
Your nation may keep repeating lies to itself and feel good about being Pakistan. Changes nothing in real world though . Historians and even AI just laugh at you.:rp
 
Pak has offered rare earth minerals to Trump recently and has nominated him for noble peace prize. Its very clear now who went to the usa making deals and asking for cease fire.

BTW, whatever jets pak shot please take a stock of them and preserve them in a museum naa so that future generations know what happened for real with proof than these articles and statements which will vanish in upcoming years.
Pakistan has rare earths? Unless the drill bit goes in the ground and finds it, there is nothing mate.
 
Hahahaha hahahaha. Pakistan is surrendered infront of team team like they had surrendered during operation Sindoor.

From 11-0 to 8-0 , 3-0 woth HD quality video as an proof


Pakistan can't claim fake victory in cricket because match is Live telecast. So sad

:klopp : lo
 
Hahahaha hahahaha. Pakistan is surrendered infront of team team like they had surrendered during operation Sindoor.

From 11-0 to 8-0 , 3-0 woth HD quality video as an proof


Pakistan can't claim fake victory in cricket because match is Live telecast. So sad

:klopp : lo
As long as India has this, and India has billion of this kind, Modi has support. lol
 
As long as pakistan establishment sell the chooran About fake victory when they actually embarassment by india. ,they don't have anything to care. Last 75+ years se ye chooran becha ja rha hai pakistan main.

BTW I'm congress supporter and never voted for BJP , not juts me but my entire family from last 50+ year's.

:kp
As long as India has this, and India has billion of this kind, Modi has support. lol
 
Nope. It doesn't make up for India's defeat to the PAF. :inti

War is far more serious.

Sport is an entertainment; it is just a game.

It’s meant to be a gentleman’s game then see a ***** bark & create unnecessary drama, they started a war they couldn’t finish and use sport as a political tool, this was also why they played the Asia Cup other than the annual Pakistan matches pay day.
 
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The entire thing has been so childish and embarrassing for India. Naqvi is right here, Modi just seems desperate to make up for what happened on May 7.

They disgraced the sport just to satisfy their dented ego’s, their conduct has been very primal to say the least, this is precisely why colonial rule was so successful in India
 
3-0 doesn’t make up for 6-0

Modi turned out to be another internet troll, I bet he used AI for his brainless tweet as well. They had their chance to one-up the PAF and suffered huge defeats, why bring their sour grapes into a beautiful game, cricket is not meant to be played by *pes in blue clothing.
 
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As long as pakistan establishment sell the chooran About fake victory when they actually embarassment by india. ,they don't have anything to care. Last 75+ years se ye chooran becha ja rha hai pakistan main.

BTW I'm congress supporter and never voted for BJP , not juts me but my entire family from last 50+ year's.

:kp
No!
 
There is 0 evidence of Pakistan shooting down 6 Indian jets. We are a deluded nation that are experts in creating our own happiness.

If the Asia Cup final wasn’t televised, we would have claimed victory here too.
As the Paksitani journalist said...one day it is six the other day five and then it's seven..even Paksitan can't make up what to lie
 
It’s meant to be a gentleman’s game then see a ***** bark & create unnecessary drama, they started a war they couldn’t finish and use sport as a political tool, this was also why they played the Asia Cup other than the annual Pakistan matches pay day.

India indeeed started all the dramas both in cricket field and in politics.

Operation Tandoor was very pointless. They didn't provide any evidence that Pakistan did Pahalgam (it was most likely domestic terrorism or a false flag from Modi).

India were decisively humbled and defeated during Operation Tandoor. Their operation failed. They now want to feel better with their Asia Cup truimph I guess. :inti
 
There is 0 evidence of Pakistan shooting down 6 Indian jets. We are a deluded nation that are experts in creating our own happiness.

If the Asia Cup final wasn’t televised, we would have claimed victory here too.
Indians lapped it up like every other one liner Modi drops, no questions asked, just pure devotion.
 
Pakistan shot down Abhinandan’s old jet and paraded him in front of the whole world. They took selfies with the debris too.

How is it possible that they shot 6 modern jets like Rafale and couldn’t provide a shred of evidence? 0 pictures? 0 recognition for the pilots who shot them down?

The only supporting evidence in Pakistan’s favor, albeit a weak one, is the disappearance of Shivangi Singh from public view. That is definitely strange and suspicious.

Apart from this, the Pakistani narrative doesn’t have any legs to stand on.
 
Pakistan shot down Abhinandan’s old jet and paraded him in front of the whole world. They took selfies with the debris too.

How is it possible that they shot 6 modern jets like Rafale and couldn’t provide a shred of evidence? 0 pictures? 0 recognition for the pilots who shot them down?

The only supporting evidence in Pakistan’s favor, albeit a weak one, is the disappearance of Shivangi Singh from public view. That is definitely strange and suspicious.

Apart from this, the Pakistani narrative doesn’t have any legs to stand on.

Photographer was on PTO.
 
Pakistan shot down Abhinandan’s old jet and paraded him in front of the whole world. They took selfies with the debris too.

How is it possible that they shot 6 modern jets like Rafale and couldn’t provide a shred of evidence? 0 pictures? 0 recognition for the pilots who shot them down?

The only supporting evidence in Pakistan’s favor, albeit a weak one, is the disappearance of Shivangi Singh from public view. That is definitely strange and suspicious.

Apart from this, the Pakistani narrative doesn’t have any legs to stand on.

Abhinandan's jet crashed within Pakistani border.

The 6 Indian jets were shot down within Indian border. Pakistan can't retrieve those I guess. Anyway, there have been videos and images. Even USA confirmed that India lost jets.
 
India indeeed started all the dramas both in cricket field and in politics.

Operation Tandoor was very pointless. They didn't provide any evidence that Pakistan did Pahalgam (it was most likely domestic terrorism or a false flag from Modi).

India were decisively humbled and defeated during Operation Tandoor. Their operation failed. They now want to feel better with their Asia Cup truimph I guess. :inti


Operation Tandoor was not really pointless. Real Madrid and Liverpool want to win the CL so to do that they have to beat teams like Bayern Munich or Milan.

If you are a 3rd division team then you don't have the artillery to fight the big guys so you go looking for the lower league clubs to pick a fight with. Then you can tell your fans, look we won 3-0 against Scunthorpe Utd!!
 
As we saw, India were humiliated by the PAF & pleaded with Donald Trump to request for a cease fire once a fitting & just response was provided following unprovoked attacks on innocent children.

However, they have been desperate to rewrite the narrative through sport, their clown PM bought the matter into cricket recently and the recent matches between India & Pakistan have been very politically motivated, poor sportsmanship and generally, India have not been able to compete with grace due to the embarrassment their army suffered at the hands of Pakistan.


Does the Asia Cup make Indians feel better now, (when you finally get that in the post
:yk3 )

I am not a huge fan of Naqvi’s personal opinions, but he has absolutely chinned Modi here, what a humiliation.
A very poor way of coping with the Asia cup loss. :mv
 
Any nation that “wins” a war or skirmish doesn’t look for every opportunity at every turn to try to rub it in. The victory should be able to speak for itself.

The Indian team, their joker PM and everyone in between that hierarchy have been petty regarding all this… shows you who did the real damage and came out on top.
 
Abhinandan's jet crashed within Pakistani border.

The 6 Indian jets were shot down within Indian border. Pakistan can't retrieve those I guess. Anyway, there have been videos and images. Even USA confirmed that India lost jets.
The US is not a source of truth. They have political motivation to support Pakistan right now, just like France have politician motivation to support India. Therefore, what the US or France or China claim is not evidence.

If we believe the US and consider their statement as evidence, do you also believe when they said that WMDs were found in Iraq and that there is no genocide in Palestine? We can’t pick and choose when to believe the US and when not to.

It’s not just the pictures. Even if we believe that Pakistan shot all jets inside J&K, there are so many other ways in which Pakistan could have provided evidence to support their claim.

Shooting a jet is not like shooting a duck. Pakistan could have shared details of the jets and missiles the took down the Rafales, the coordinates, the data from the radars, etc.

They could have done so much to prove that they really did what they claim but the fact that they have not provided anything makes it clear that they didn’t down them.

It was a face-saving exercise after India penetrating the Pakistani airspace and went deep into the country which Pakistan should have been able to stop.
 
Let’s be honest — there are lies and exaggerations from both sides when it comes wars.

What India is claiming is obviously not 100% true either, but, they have provided some evidence to support their claims while Pakistan have provided no evidence to support theirs.
 
Let’s be honest — there are lies and exaggerations from both sides when it comes wars.

What India is claiming is obviously not 100% true either, but, they have provided some evidence to support their claims while Pakistan have provided no evidence to support theirs.
It was all set to show up at the Asia Cup trophy ceremony, until the Pakistanis showed up with deodorant. Turns out, that’s India’s kryptonite.
 
India won the war on 7th May with Operation Sindoor, going 50 km inside mainland Pakistan and wiping out multiple terrorists and their hideouts. This was historic as the first time any country has struck so deep inside a nuclear state.

Sure, maybe a few Indian jets went down in the process but that’s war. Planes go down, soldiers make sacrifices. Even in cricket, when chasing 147 yesterday, India lost 5 wickets. The target was the “Operation Sindoor” equivalent, and those 5 wickets were like the jets. The mission was still successful.

Pakistanis can keep celebrating their “fake victories” for self-tasalli, but reality is very different.

This cricket tournament, unlike war propaganda, was telecasted live and the world saw the truth. India humiliated Pakistan three consecutive Sundays, refused to shake hands, and walked off without even needing the trophy like a boss.

Let’s be honest: 7th May, 14th Sept, 21st Sept, and 28th Sept will go down in Pakistan’s history as its most humiliating days.

:kp
 
India won the war on 7th May with Operation Sindoor, going 50 km inside mainland Pakistan and wiping out multiple terrorists and their hideouts. This was historic as the first time any country has struck so deep inside a nuclear state.

Sure, maybe a few Indian jets went down in the process but that’s war. Planes go down, soldiers make sacrifices. Even in cricket, when chasing 147 yesterday, India lost 5 wickets. The target was the “Operation Sindoor” equivalent, and those 5 wickets were like the jets. The mission was still successful.

Pakistanis can keep celebrating their “fake victories” for self-tasalli, but reality is very different.

This cricket tournament, unlike war propaganda, was telecasted live and the world saw the truth. India humiliated Pakistan three consecutive Sundays, refused to shake hands, and walked off without even needing the trophy like a boss.

Let’s be honest: 7th May, 14th Sept, 21st Sept, and 28th Sept will go down in Pakistan’s history as its most humiliating days.

:kp

In the words of your own people.....

Wonder why modi forgot to pose with the radar

:LOL: :LOL:
 
India won the war on 7th May with Operation Sindoor, going 50 km inside mainland Pakistan and wiping out multiple terrorists and their hideouts. This was historic as the first time any country has struck so deep inside a nuclear state.

Sure, maybe a few Indian jets went down in the process but that’s war. Planes go down, soldiers make sacrifices. Even in cricket, when chasing 147 yesterday, India lost 5 wickets. The target was the “Operation Sindoor” equivalent, and those 5 wickets were like the jets. The mission was still successful.

Pakistanis can keep celebrating their “fake victories” for self-tasalli, but reality is very different.

This cricket tournament, unlike war propaganda, was telecasted live and the world saw the truth. India humiliated Pakistan three consecutive Sundays, refused to shake hands, and walked off without even needing the trophy like a boss.

Let’s be honest: 7th May, 14th Sept, 21st Sept, and 28th Sept will go down in Pakistan’s history as its most humiliating days.

:kp
Then why does your PM keep acting like someone’s gone deep inside his feelings, and his fanbase wishes it was them too?
 

In the words of your own people.....

Wonder why modi forgot to pose with the radar

:LOL: :LOL:
Not sure if some of you are intentionally acting stupid or if that’s just the level of intellect on display here.

Who has ever denied that Pakistan also attacked India and launched missiles? There’s a reason the entire IPL had to be shut down on 9th May because Pakistani missiles were trying to hit Himachal. Yes, most were intercepted, but one or two did land inside mainland India. Similarly, India responded by destroying 11 of your airbases. So let’s not pretend it was one-sided — both sides exchanged blows.

But here’s the fact: India won the war on 7th May. Why? Because the core objective of dismantling terrorist camps was achieved that very day. Everything that followed after was just military skirmishes between India and Pakistan.

When India struck Nur Khan Base, which just over a mile from the headquarters of Strategic Plans Division responsible for Pakistan's nuclear arsenal which includes over 170 warheads on which USA has stakes, Pawpaw asked for ceasefire.
 
Then why does your PM keep acting like someone’s gone deep inside his feelings, and his fanbase wishes it was them too?
Any engagement with Pakistan is operation sindoor and PM just reminded of that.

For example, me and you talking is Operation Sindoor. Me beating you in debates regularly is Operation Sindoor.

Also, how appropriate it is that a guy named Tilak gave the blow in Operation Sindoor. How poetic

:klopp
 
Any engagement with Pakistan is operation sindoor and PM just reminded of that.

For example, me and you talking is Operation Sindoor. Me beating you in debates regularly is Operation Sindoor.

Also, how appropriate it is that a guy named Tilak gave the blow in Operation Sindoor. How poetic

:klopp

You were debating?
 
Not sure if some of you are intentionally acting stupid or if that’s just the level of intellect on display here.

Who has ever denied that Pakistan also attacked India and launched missiles? There’s a reason the entire IPL had to be shut down on 9th May because Pakistani missiles were trying to hit Himachal. Yes, most were intercepted, but one or two did land inside mainland India. Similarly, India responded by destroying 11 of your airbases. So let’s not pretend it was one-sided — both sides exchanged blows.

But here’s the fact: India won the war on 7th May. Why? Because the core objective of dismantling terrorist camps was achieved that very day. Everything that followed after was just military skirmishes between India and Pakistan.

When India struck Nur Khan Base, which just over a mile from the headquarters of Strategic Plans Division responsible for Pakistan's nuclear arsenal which includes over 170 warheads on which USA has stakes, Pawpaw asked for ceasefire.

Yes Indians were in denial until it was no longer possible to lie, living with lights off for even days off after the war. The entire north to south was lit up by Pakistan on your western front.... It's not even fun anymore. I can sense your internal rage bro... pick a fight and then only to get humiliated.

The perpetrators have not been caught but everything is a success.
 
Any engagement with Pakistan is operation sindoor and PM just reminded of that.

For example, me and you talking is Operation Sindoor. Me beating you in debates regularly is Operation Sindoor.

Also, how appropriate it is that a guy named Tilak gave the blow in Operation Sindoor. How poetic

:klopp
This is all too familiar. Hang on a minute, are you Gaurav Arya?? :D

 
The US is not a source of truth. They have political motivation to support Pakistan right now, just like France have politician motivation to support India. Therefore, what the US or France or China claim is not evidence.

If we believe the US and consider their statement as evidence, do you also believe when they said that WMDs were found in Iraq and that there is no genocide in Palestine? We can’t pick and choose when to believe the US and when not to.

It’s not just the pictures. Even if we believe that Pakistan shot all jets inside J&K, there are so many other ways in which Pakistan could have provided evidence to support their claim.

Shooting a jet is not like shooting a duck. Pakistan could have shared details of the jets and missiles the took down the Rafales, the coordinates, the data from the radars, etc.

They could have done so much to prove that they really did what they claim but the fact that they have not provided anything makes it clear that they didn’t down them.

It was a face-saving exercise after India penetrating the Pakistani airspace and went deep into the country which Pakistan should have been able to stop.
You hit the nail right on the head. National pride shouldn't make you blind to the truth. Pakistanis love to lap up their imaginary victories against India. But this is expected from a country full of people that love to believe in fantastical stories and have superstitious beliefs. Where people think that praying to Allah makes the Angels descend down from heavens and bring victories in cricket matches.
I don't mean to offend any religious sentiments here but that is the truth. These people then delude themselves with contrived stories that have no grounds in reality. There is no reasoning or rational thinking. People just keep lying to themselves to get through their day.

Pakistanis as a nation are way way behind, not because of corruption, politicians, establishment, army etc but because we are a nation of hypocrites and idiots. We make up morality as we go and never hold ourselves up to the same standards as we do to others. India with all it's faults has made made massive progress in the development and growth of various sectors. The gap between Pakistan and India grows exponentially day by day but our textbooks are teaching kids how Muslims are superior to Hindus and how we have won every battle to date.

It's frustrating to say the least as a Pakistani even though i come from a priviledged background but i still feel the connection to the Country and people. It's disheartening to see how the mindset of people hasn't changed in 80+ years and people are happy living inside their own bubbles.
 
Then why does your PM keep acting like someone’s gone deep inside his feelings, and his fanbase wishes it was them too?

It's a masquerade to deflect from their own faiings. I feel the same way about Pakistanis who badmouth Afghans as cave dwellers and such. Look forward not back.
 
Any nation that “wins” a war or skirmish doesn’t look for every opportunity at every turn to try to rub it in. The victory should be able to speak for itself.

The Indian team, their joker PM and everyone in between that hierarchy have been petty regarding all this… shows you who did the real damage and came out on top.
Yes that's why your pm went to in to gloat. Your best fast bowlers was shoot fake jets down ..your joke of a airncmmdr was giving press conference with no proof .your ispr was claiming India attacked Afghanistan and Amritsar..
 
As we saw, India were humiliated by the PAF & pleaded with Donald Trump to request for a cease fire once a fitting & just response was provided following unprovoked attacks on innocent children.

However, they have been desperate to rewrite the narrative through sport, their clown PM bought the matter into cricket recently and the recent matches between India & Pakistan have been very politically motivated, poor sportsmanship and generally, India have not been able to compete with grace due to the embarrassment their army suffered at the hands of Pakistan.


Does the Asia Cup make Indians feel better now, (when you finally get that in the post
:yk3 )

I am not a huge fan of Naqvi’s personal opinions, but he has absolutely chinned Modi here, what a humiliation.
It's one of your best threads ever 😉
 
You hit the nail right on the head. National pride shouldn't make you blind to the truth. Pakistanis love to lap up their imaginary victories against India. But this is expected from a country full of people that love to believe in fantastical stories and have superstitious beliefs. Where people think that praying to Allah makes the Angels descend down from heavens and bring victories in cricket matches.
I don't mean to offend any religious sentiments here but that is the truth. These people then delude themselves with contrived stories that have no grounds in reality. There is no reasoning or rational thinking. People just keep lying to themselves to get through their day.

Pakistanis as a nation are way way behind, not because of corruption, politicians, establishment, army etc but because we are a nation of hypocrites and idiots. We make up morality as we go and never hold ourselves up to the same standards as we do to others. India with all it's faults has made made massive progress in the development and growth of various sectors. The gap between Pakistan and India grows exponentially day by day but our textbooks are teaching kids how Muslims are superior to Hindus and how we have won every battle to date.

It's frustrating to say the least as a Pakistani even though i come from a priviledged background but i still feel the connection to the Country and people. It's disheartening to see how the mindset of people hasn't changed in 80+ years and people are happy living inside their own bubbles.
Pakistan is a failed country and we are a failed society. After all, the success or failure of the country is a reflection of its society. We are lazy, deluded and always look for shortcuts. Our nation has zero work ethic and discipline and you can see it in your every day lives.

Our forces create their own hype because they control the media narrative in the country and people lap it up. If you meet the military and PAF officers in real life which I am sure you have, you will realize that there is nothing impressive about them.

They lost have of the country in 1971 and act like they have great services to the nation. They don’t.

Pakistan is a hot mess in all departments including cricket, which is also a reflection of a failed society. The players have no sense of self-accountability and no awareness of where they lack.

This is why Pakistan will never succeed at anything. We just make up our fiction and live in a fool’s paradise. You look at where India is today as an economic power and where Pakistan is. How can anyone believe that Pakistan can achieve superiority over India in warfare or cricket or anything else. It is not a comparison.
 
Pakistan is a failed country and we are a failed society. After all, the success or failure of the country is a reflection of its society. We are lazy, deluded and always look for shortcuts. Our nation has zero work ethic and discipline and you can see it in your every day lives.

Our forces create their own hype because they control the media narrative in the country and people lap it up. If you meet the military and PAF officers in real life which I am sure you have, you will realize that there is nothing impressive about them.

They lost have of the country in 1971 and act like they have great services to the nation. They don’t.

Pakistan is a hot mess in all departments including cricket, which is also a reflection of a failed society. The players have no sense of self-accountability and no awareness of where they lack.

This is why Pakistan will never succeed at anything. We just make up our fiction and live in a fool’s paradise. You look at where India is today as an economic power and where Pakistan is. How can anyone believe that Pakistan can achieve superiority over India in warfare or cricket or anything else. It is not a comparison.

Every Pakistani is aware of the country’s struggles, it’s why we’ve seen a mass exodus of educated youth since the Form 47 government came into power.

Were you trying to present this fact as a breaking news?
 
Every Pakistani is aware of the country’s struggles, it’s why we’ve seen a mass exodus of educated youth since the Form 47 government came into power.

Were you trying to present this fact as a breaking news?
He's been breaking this news since 2012 :LOL:
 
Let’s be honest — there are lies and exaggerations from both sides when it comes wars.

What India is claiming is obviously not 100% true either, but, they have provided some evidence to support their claims while Pakistan have provided no evidence to support theirs.
If you are gonna side with India on this 6 - 0 thing, than you have hit a new low my friend.

The onus was never on Pakistan to provide any proof. The one that wants to spin it off as a lie will do anything to provide anything.
 
Every Pakistani is aware of the country’s struggles, it’s why we’ve seen a mass exodus of educated youth since the Form 47 government came into power.

Were you trying to present this fact as a breaking news?
No they are not, Pakistanis are easily the most delusional people on earth. If they were aware of the struggles, Pakistan would have found a pathway to success.
 
If you are gonna side with India on this 6 - 0 thing, than you have hit a new low my friend.

The onus was never on Pakistan to provide any proof. The one that wants to spin it off as a lie will do anything to provide anything.
The onus is on Pakistan to provide evidence for downing 6 Rafales because Pakistan is the one to make the claim. The burden of proof lies on the accuser.

I can’t believe I have to explain this. The fact that it’s been months and Pakistan have not provided a shred of evidence clearly shows that it didn’t happen.

India have provided way more evidence in this conflict than Pakistan have.
 
The US is not a source of truth. They have political motivation to support Pakistan right now, just like France have politician motivation to support India. Therefore, what the US or France or China claim is not evidence.

If we believe the US and consider their statement as evidence, do you also believe when they said that WMDs were found in Iraq and that there is no genocide in Palestine? We can’t pick and choose when to believe the US and when not to.

It’s not just the pictures. Even if we believe that Pakistan shot all jets inside J&K, there are so many other ways in which Pakistan could have provided evidence to support their claim.

Shooting a jet is not like shooting a duck. Pakistan could have shared details of the jets and missiles the took down the Rafales, the coordinates, the data from the radars, etc.

They could have done so much to prove that they really did what they claim but the fact that they have not provided anything makes it clear that they didn’t down them.

It was a face-saving exercise after India penetrating the Pakistani airspace and went deep into the country which Pakistan should have been able to stop.
This isnt a cricket match.

In a military operation, every detail is not to be shared to the public due to classified info and violations of law that takes place.

When US decided to kill Osama Bin Laden, they couldnt provide the actual evidence as during that night they violated many laws that would had made them liable.

Even when we shot down Abhinandan, we had to hide alot of info, as there were rumors that we might have used f16 which we were not allowed to use in this.

During the Operation Bunyan Marsoos, the issue is with the type of missiles that were used to take down 6 Indian jets that included 2-3 rafales. The problem in this case is, the jets we have and the missiles that are attached with them cannot really take down a Rafale due to the range, however to overcome this problem China helped us and India got out played.

China exported to Pakistan PL 15E missiles that could be attached with the JC-10. A PL 15E has only a range of 145km. China. Meanwhile, China also makes PL 15 missiles that are not export version as they have a range of up 300 km.

Now India went into a dog fight thinking Pakistan doesnt have the ranges, so they kept their Rafale apar. But than when their jets 200-300 km got hit, they were taken by surprise.

This is why Pakistan cant go around giving every detail info, or else this would strain our relations with China who also likes to act in secrecy.

Pakistan has left the everything on India, and India had two choices. If India had accepted the PL 15 version, that would had meant that their Rafales did go down, as Pakistan would not use a PL 15 on their other garbage crafts. But at the same time that would be an insult for India. So China and Pakistan discreetly won here, as India wanted to hide its own national embarrassment.

Same situation is that Shivangi Singh. She was marketed as the only Indian female Rafale pilot. Now no one knows where she is. Pakistan has again left this on India to decide. If she is in Pakistan captured, India would first have to accept this, and accepting this would again mean Pakistan did down a Rafale. If they dont accept she is in Pakistan, our country isnt even required to hand her back this time.

All India has to do is show us Shivangi Singh, thats it.

So, this is why India and Modi has been very edgy, where he was trying to mention operation tandoor in a cricket match and which is why he allowed his Indian team to play Pakistan in the Asia Cup
 
The onus is on Pakistan to provide evidence for downing 6 Rafales because Pakistan is the one to make the claim. The burden of proof lies on the accuser.

I can’t believe I have to explain this. The fact that it’s been months and Pakistan have not provided a shred of evidence clearly shows that it didn’t happen.

India have provided way more evidence in this conflict than Pakistan have.
Pakistan never claimed it downed 6 rafales. The rafales were 2 or 3. The rest included their other planes.


Rest regarding sharing such proofs i have explained in the above post
 
This isnt a cricket match.

In a military operation, every detail is not to be shared to the public due to classified info and violations of law that takes place.

When US decided to kill Osama Bin Laden, they couldnt provide the actual evidence as during that night they violated many laws that would had made them liable.

Even when we shot down Abhinandan, we had to hide alot of info, as there were rumors that we might have used f16 which we were not allowed to use in this.

During the Operation Bunyan Marsoos, the issue is with the type of missiles that were used to take down 6 Indian jets that included 2-3 rafales. The problem in this case is, the jets we have and the missiles that are attached with them cannot really take down a Rafale due to the range, however to overcome this problem China helped us and India got out played.

China exported to Pakistan PL 15E missiles that could be attached with the JC-10. A PL 15E has only a range of 145km. China. Meanwhile, China also makes PL 15 missiles that are not export version as they have a range of up 300 km.

Now India went into a dog fight thinking Pakistan doesnt have the ranges, so they kept their Rafale apar. But than when their jets 200-300 km got hit, they were taken by surprise.

This is why Pakistan cant go around giving every detail info, or else this would strain our relations with China who also likes to act in secrecy.

Pakistan has left the everything on India, and India had two choices. If India had accepted the PL 15 version, that would had meant that their Rafales did go down, as Pakistan would not use a PL 15 on their other garbage crafts. But at the same time that would be an insult for India. So China and Pakistan discreetly won here, as India wanted to hide its own national embarrassment.

Same situation is that Shivangi Singh. She was marketed as the only Indian female Rafale pilot. Now no one knows where she is. Pakistan has again left this on India to decide. If she is in Pakistan captured, India would first have to accept this, and accepting this would again mean Pakistan did down a Rafale. If they dont accept she is in Pakistan, our country isnt even required to hand her back this time.

All India has to do is show us Shivangi Singh, thats it.

So, this is why India and Modi has been very edgy, where he was trying to mention operation tandoor in a cricket match and which is why he allowed his Indian team to play Pakistan in the Asia Cup
Way to hide behind the "classified data" excuse. If the operation is so classified, why are your military leaders making statements and providing clarification on how it all went down. If they are so confident in their alleged downing of fighter jets, they must also provide concrete evidence.

What is the basis of the claim of PAF they shot down Rafale jets? Can they share how they track it or is the case of "Trust me bro"?
 
This isnt a cricket match.

In a military operation, every detail is not to be shared to the public due to classified info and violations of law that takes place.

When US decided to kill Osama Bin Laden, they couldnt provide the actual evidence as during that night they violated many laws that would had made them liable.

Even when we shot down Abhinandan, we had to hide alot of info, as there were rumors that we might have used f16 which we were not allowed to use in this.

During the Operation Bunyan Marsoos, the issue is with the type of missiles that were used to take down 6 Indian jets that included 2-3 rafales. The problem in this case is, the jets we have and the missiles that are attached with them cannot really take down a Rafale due to the range, however to overcome this problem China helped us and India got out played.

China exported to Pakistan PL 15E missiles that could be attached with the JC-10. A PL 15E has only a range of 145km. China. Meanwhile, China also makes PL 15 missiles that are not export version as they have a range of up 300 km.

Now India went into a dog fight thinking Pakistan doesnt have the ranges, so they kept their Rafale apar. But than when their jets 200-300 km got hit, they were taken by surprise.

This is why Pakistan cant go around giving every detail info, or else this would strain our relations with China who also likes to act in secrecy.

Pakistan has left the everything on India, and India had two choices. If India had accepted the PL 15 version, that would had meant that their Rafales did go down, as Pakistan would not use a PL 15 on their other garbage crafts. But at the same time that would be an insult for India. So China and Pakistan discreetly won here, as India wanted to hide its own national embarrassment.

Same situation is that Shivangi Singh. She was marketed as the only Indian female Rafale pilot. Now no one knows where she is. Pakistan has again left this on India to decide. If she is in Pakistan captured, India would first have to accept this, and accepting this would again mean Pakistan did down a Rafale. If they dont accept she is in Pakistan, our country isnt even required to hand her back this time.

All India has to do is show us Shivangi Singh, thats it.

So, this is why India and Modi has been very edgy, where he was trying to mention operation tandoor in a cricket match and which is why he allowed his Indian team to play Pakistan in the Asia Cup

I personally think Shivangi possibly died.

If she was alive and well, India probably would've shown her by now.

Before the war, they were marketing Shivangi heavily. All the marketings stopped after Operation Tandoor. Very strange.
 
I personally think Shivangi possibly died.

If she was alive and well, India probably would've shown her by now.

Before the war, they were marketing Shivangi heavily. All the marketings stopped after Operation Tandoor. Very strange.
Who knows. Pakistan doesnt even care about her. Its their own peoplr that are asking where is their poster girl.

I hope she is being tortured and kept as a dog in some pakistani jail.

Whatever happened to her, it will look bad for the indian govt
 
Who knows. Pakistan doesnt even care about her. Its their own peoplr that are asking where is their poster girl.

I hope she is being tortured and kept as a dog in some pakistani jail.

Whatever happened to her, it will look bad for the indian govt

Pakistan don't have her + India can't show her = She is possibly dead.
 
Pakistan don't have her + India can't show her = She is possibly dead.
Na she aint dead.

At the end of the day, India is democratic and not a dictatorship. So they cant claim a dead person to be alive as that causes more problems for the family in terms transfer of inheritence and all the laws that are applied on assets.

Either Pakistan is keeping her or some other pilot and will use it for some important prisoner exchange, or maybe US might have brokered a ceasefire between the two countries where India wanted Pakistan not to disclose any info of captured pilot. So could be they returned her

Pakistan is not an aggressor and cant afford a war, so they may have kept the peace
 
No they are not, Pakistanis are easily the most delusional people on earth. If they were aware of the struggles, Pakistan would have found a pathway to success.

How many Pakistanis have you met who aren't aware of struggle?

Almost every Pakistani, regardless of background, is intimately familiar with economic hardship, political instability, security challenges, and social struggles.

To suggest otherwise, just because these struggles haven’t yet translated into collective success, largely due to political instability since the country's inception is not only misleading, it borders on insulting the intelligence and lived experiences of an entire nation.

Struggle isn’t hidden in Pakistan, it’s worn, endured, and survived daily.
 
Pakistan is a failed country and we are a failed society. After all, the success or failure of the country is a reflection of its society. We are lazy, deluded and always look for shortcuts. Our nation has zero work ethic and discipline and you can see it in your every day lives.

Our forces create their own hype because they control the media narrative in the country and people lap it up. If you meet the military and PAF officers in real life which I am sure you have, you will realize that there is nothing impressive about them.

They lost have of the country in 1971 and act like they have great services to the nation. They don’t.

Pakistan is a hot mess in all departments including cricket, which is also a reflection of a failed society. The players have no sense of self-accountability and no awareness of where they lack.

This is why Pakistan will never succeed at anything. We just make up our fiction and live in a fool’s paradise. You look at where India is today as an economic power and where Pakistan is. How can anyone believe that Pakistan can achieve superiority over India in warfare or cricket or anything else. It is not a comparison.

I agree that Pakistan is a failed state- when we have "medics" like this who got their license to practise on the back of a matchbox or from some Kangaroo University in Pakistan, it speaks ill of the wider societal problems in Pakistan.... unlike the UK, where standard of medicine is far higher.
 
Who knows. Pakistan doesnt even care about her. Its their own peoplr that are asking where is their poster girl.

I hope she is being tortured and kept as a dog in some pakistani jail.

Shivangi is kept chained in a dungeon underneath Asim Munir's house. Please give her back.
 
I agree that Pakistan is a failed state- when we have "medics" like this who got their license to practise on the back of a matchbox or from some Kangaroo University in Pakistan, it speaks ill of the wider societal problems in Pakistan.... unlike the UK, where standard of medicine is far higher.
I went to one of the most competitive medical institutes in the country which is actually harder to get into than most UK med schools because the competition is crazy.

You are dealing with more applicants than the entire 18-22 years demographic of the UK, and most of the successful doctors in the UK are foreign qualified and have had superior training because UK educated and trained doctors have very little hands-on experience compared to doctors that come to the UK from Asian countries.

A doctor in the UK on average deals with the same number of patients in a week that an Asian doctor does in a day.

My dad is the only sibling who stayed back in Pakistan because he was a civil servant while his siblings, 2 of whom are doctors, all moved to the UK in the 80’s, so I know what I am talking about.

Maybe you should try to fool someone else and project your fragile superiority complex on those who don’t know the reality.

I am glad your parents moved to the UK and gave you a better life than what they were capable of in Pakistan because just like them, I don’t think you would have been to survive the cutthroat environment and competition in Pakistan.
 
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