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Explosions ring out in Venezuela as Maduro’s government accuses US of attack

At least seven explosions rang out and low-flying aircraft swept through the capital of Venezuela early Saturday, with the government of leader Nicolás Maduro accusing the United States of attacking civilian and military installations following a monthslong pressure campaign.

The Federal Aviation Administration issued a ban on U.S. commercial flights in Venezuelan airspace because of “ongoing military activity” ahead of the explosions in Caracas. There was no immediate comment from the U.S. about its role, the targets or the purpose of the strikes.

The explosions in Caracas sent people rushing into the streets, while others took to social media to report hearing and seeing the blasts. It was not immediately clear if there were casualties. The apparent attack lasted less than 30 minutes, but it was unclear if more actions were ahead. Two hours later, parts of the city remained without power, but vehicles moved freely.

Smoke could be seen rising from the hangar of a military base in Caracas, while another military installation in the capital was without power.

“The whole ground shook. This is horrible. We heard explosions and planes,” said Carmen Hidalgo, a 21-year-old office worker, her voice trembling. She was walking briskly with two relatives, returning from a birthday party. “We felt like the air was hitting us.”

No immediate response from the US

The explosions come as the Trump administration has escalated a pressure campaign on Maduro, who has been charged with narco-terrorism in the United States. The CIA was behind a drone strike last week at a docking area believed to have been used by Venezuelan drug cartels in what was the first known direct operation on Venezuelan soil since the U.S. began strikes in September.

President Donald Trump for months had threatened that he could soon order strikes on targets on Venezuelan land following months of attacks on boats accused of carrying drugs. Maduro has decried the U.S. military operations as a thinly veiled effort to oust him from power.

Pentagon referred requests for comment to the White House, which didn’t immediately return calls or emails seeking comment. Calls to the U.S. Southern Command, which oversees military operations in the region, went unanswered.

Trump is at his private club in Palm Beach, Florida, where he has spent the last two weeks for the holiday season. His public schedule showed he was set to receive an intelligence briefing on Friday evening, hours before the reported strikes. He offered no immediate comment on social media.

Venezuelan president calls people to action

Venezuela’s government called on its supporters to take to the streets.

“People to the streets!” it said in a statement. “The Bolivarian Government calls on all social and political forces in the country to activate mobilization plans and repudiate this imperialist attack.”

The statement added that Maduro had “ordered all national defense plans to be implemented” and declared “a state of external disturbance.” That state of emergency gives him the power to suspend people’s rights and expand the role of the armed forces.

The website of the U.S. Embassy in Venezuela, a post that has been closed since 2019, issued a warning to American citizens in the country, saying it was “aware of reports of explosions in and around Caracas.”

“U.S. citizens in Venezuela should shelter in place,” the warning said.

The FAA warned all commercial and private U.S. pilots that the airspace over Venezuela and the small island nation of Curacao, just off the coast of the country to the north, was off-limits “due to safety-of-flight risks associated with ongoing military activity.”

Brewing tensions

The explosions come amid the Trump administration’s escalating military actions in the region. The U.S. has seized sanctioned oil tankers off the coast of Venezuela, and Trump ordered a blockade of others in a move that seemed designed to put a tighter chokehold on the South American country’s economy.

The U.S. military has been attacking boats in the Caribbean Sea and the eastern Pacific Ocean since early September. As of Friday, the number of known boat strikes is 35 and the number of people killed is at least 115, according to numbers announced by the Trump administration.

They followed a major buildup of American forces in the waters off South America, including the arrival in November of the nation’s most advanced aircraft carrier, which added thousands more troops to what was already the largest military presence in the region in generations.

Trump has justified the boat strikes as a necessary escalation to stem the flow of drugs into the U.S. and asserted that the U.S. is engaged in an “armed conflict” with drug cartels.

On Friday, Venezuela said it was open to negotiating an agreement with the U.S. to combat drug trafficking.

Maduro also said in a pretaped interview aired Thursday that the U.S. wants to force a government change in Venezuela and gain access to its vast oil reserves through the pressure campaign.

Meanwhile, Iranian state television reported on the explosions in Caracas on Saturday, showing images of the Venezuelan capital. Iran has been close to Venezuela for years, in part due to their shared enmity of the U.S.

 
As usual, China doesn’t give a damn and let’s another one of its so called allies be bullied by US.

Another reason why no country should ever overdo its aggressive geopolitical posturing on the basis of Chinese backing.

China remains by far the most useless ally whenever it comes to military conflicts.
 
US conducted strike on Venezuela, captured Maduro, Trump says

President Donald Trump confirmed early on Jan. 3 that the U.S. had carried out an overnight strike on Venezuela and said that the nation's leader, Nicolás Maduro, had been taken into custody and removed from the country.

Trump made the announcement on social media several hours after explosions shook the capital city of Caracas.

"The United States of America has successfully carried out a large scale strike against Venezuela and its leader, President Nicolas Maduro, who has been, along with his wife, captured and flown out of the Country. This operation was done in conjunction with U.S. Law Enforcement," Trump wrote on Truth Social.

The U.S. president said he would be providing additional details at a news conference at 11 am EDT at Mar-a-Lago in Florida. Trump spent the holidays at his private resort in Palm Beach and was scheduled to return to Washington on Sunday.

Venezuela's government had alleged that the U.S. was behind the military operation, which came days after Trump acknowledged that the U.S. had conducted a covert strike against a dock facility in the country. Trump's statement was the first public confirmation from the U.S. that it had carried out the strike.

The military operation followed a months-long military buildup in the Caribbean by the Trump administration, as well as a series of attacks on alleged drug boats and the seizure of Venezuelan oil tankers.

 
Don't care for Maduro but this is another unilateral act of international vandalism from the terrorist in chief. Was there Congressional authorisation for this latest war ?

What's the plan for the day after ? Is there a government in waiting ? Will Venezuela now become another Iraq 2003 with looting, lawlessness and roaming bands of militias to fill the power vacuum ?
 
Those who oppose Trumps foreign policies and condemn the barbaric extremist regime of the zionests are targeted.


Trump had no choice . Epstein files were regular warnings for him to either follow orders or be exposed fully . Don’t be surprised if Iran is attacked too after Trump met his boss Netanyahu.

Maduro should have been certain Yanks will attack after months of preparing a puppet to take power . His army should have detained the opposition leader but chose not to .

I hope Venezuela gives them a bloody nose for their terrorist attacks on their country
 
For years we were told, including by some experts on here, that Trump was "anti war" and a crusader against Washington establishment's imperialist policies.

If they didn't get their eyes wiped after Iran last June - Trumphats will now. Those people should apologise or be forced to stand in their town squares and have rotten tomatoes thrown at their face.

I curse this fast food gorging baboon masquerading as a leader, his followers, and this verminous stain on humanity called the United States.

I hope the aspirin overdose kicks in sooner than later and the world can be saved from further misadventures.
 
China to other countries: What does US think of itself bro. You better oppose them. Don’t worry we stand with you. :akhtar

China after USA and its allies pummel those nations: So sorry to hear dear. Praying for you :asadrauf Also when will you make payment for last export shipment bro. Love from Beijing. Peace.
 
China to other countries: What does US think of itself bro. You better oppose them. Don’t worry we stand with you. :akhtar

China after USA and its allies pummel those nations: So sorry to hear dear. Praying for you :asadrauf Also when will you make payment for last export shipment bro. Love from Beijing. Peace.

Keep your orange doti on . Youre writing China on every other sentence . The world doesn’t revolve around the wishes of Hindu extremists.

So you agree on with this state terrorism ?
 
Keep your orange doti on . Youre writing China on every other sentence . The world doesn’t revolve around the wishes of Hindu extremists.

So you agree on with this state terrorism ?

Sanatanis have the right to ridicule phoney nations when they get exposed.

China has been exposed throughout 2025 as an Unreliable ally and a mere silent spectator when its allies get pounded (Pakistan, Iran, Venezuela)
 
Countries that were humiliated by US military operations and were proven to be defenceless, since 2000 :-

Afghanistan
Iraq
Pakistan
Yemen
Syria
Libya
Iran
Somalia
Nigeria
Venezuela
 
Sanatanis have the right to ridicule phoney nations when they get exposed.

China has been exposed throughout 2025 as an Unreliable ally and a mere silent spectator when its allies get pounded (Pakistan, Iran, Venezuela)

I don’t blame you vegetarians for wanting other nations to help you bring down China . At least you’re honest Hindutva on its own is a rat to lion against China . One of the reasons was to limit resources to China
 
I don’t blame you vegetarians for wanting other nations to help you bring down China . At least you’re honest Hindutva on its own is a rat to lion against China . One of the reasons was to limit resources to China
Even a sole Chinese kid born to Chinese parents wouldn’t be this super excited about China’s powers 😂
 
For years we were told, including by some experts on here, that Trump was "anti war" and a crusader against Washington establishment's imperialist policies.

If they didn't get their eyes wiped after Iran last June - Trumphats will now. Those people should apologise or be forced to stand in their town squares and have rotten tomatoes thrown at their face.

I curse this fast food gorging baboon masquerading as a leader, his followers, and this verminous stain on humanity called the United States.

I hope the aspirin overdose kicks in sooner than later and the world can be saved from further misadventures.

Epstein and Trump allegedly raped two girls , one being 13. He’s no leader just a nonce with money on a string .

CIA is working working overtime on this regime change operation. I have a feeling their puppet won’t be successful
 
I don’t blame you vegetarians for wanting other nations to help you bring down China . At least you’re honest Hindutva on its own is a rat to lion against China . One of the reasons was to limit resources to China

It’s disgraceful that you support even though China butchered Uyghr Muslims. I hope you know you cannot enter Swarg by staying mute on China’s atrocities.

I want you to be truthful for your own good, King.
 
I don’t blame you vegetarians for wanting other nations to help you bring down China . At least you’re honest Hindutva on its own is a rat to lion against China . One of the reasons was to limit resources to China
Is munching on Chinese dimsums compulsive or something? They don't give two ***** about you guys, lol.
 
My sweet summer child, that’s all they do, sell their crappy weapons which fail anyway like they did during May 2025 resulting in a decisive Indian victory.

The craters Brahmos missiles left on Pakistani airbases are still being repaired as we speak. Pakistani labour is right now having even tea with biscuit at that very site and you know that because you supplied the biscuits this morning. We saw that on our satellite. We have our eyes on you.
Is munching on Chinese dimsums compulsive or something? They don't give two ***** about you guys, lol.


Thats funny, so why did the chinese supply us with the PL-15 - took down 6-8 jets off yours
 
Don't care for Maduro but this is another unilateral act of international vandalism from the terrorist in chief. Was there Congressional authorisation for this latest war ?

What's the plan for the day after ? Is there a government in waiting ? Will Venezuela now become another Iraq 2003 with looting, lawlessness and roaming bands of militias to fill the power vacuum ?
I'm still finding this tough to believe. Obviously nobody likes despots like Maduro but for the US to fly in and kidnap the Head of State of a sovereign country is a new level of power projection.

China is either unable or unwilling to provide a counterbalance so the US and it's allies like Israel are now able to act at pre nation-state levels.
 
Thats funny, so why did the chinese supply us with the PL-15 - took down 6-8 jets off yours

Hindu extremists have always begged others to do their bidding . They can’t take on China so become excited with any such news. This will make no difference , China will always remain more powerful because of their people .

Bush snr did the same in Nicaragua. It’s a little more complex this time , the Venezuelans are far more political .
 
Trump has knocked out two pro Putin regimes ( Syria and Venezuela) while keeping Putin tied up and embroiled in Ukraine.
 
Invasion is all good if America does it. So by logic China taking Taiwan- which is part of China shouldn't have any international consequences 🤔
 
I'm still finding this tough to believe. Obviously nobody likes despots like Maduro but for the US to fly in and kidnap the Head of State of a sovereign country is a new level of power projection.

China is either unable or unwilling to provide a counterbalance so the US and it's allies like Israel are now able to act at pre nation-state levels.


Now that's called a special operation

None of Venezuelas russian air defences and aircraft aka junk even reacted to us attack

Now compare putins special operation hes got over a million russians killed and wounded and most of the junk armanament destroyed that they had to beg n korea and Iran for supplies.
Russia itself has lost over 700 aircraft .
 
Invasion is all good if America does it. So by logic China taking Taiwan- which is part of China shouldn't have any international consequences 🤔
I'm not sure why people are still talking about rules. If the last few years have established one thing, it's that all the post World War 2 rules are null and void.

Obviously China taking Taiwan will have international consequences. Taiwan itself is strong enough to cause horrendous Chinese casualties and the US and it's allies will love the opportunity to bleed China like they have bled Russia at minimal cost to themselves.
 
What a great start for years 2026.....

Trump hijacked Venezuela President and bombs the country..... surprisingly on the eve of 2025, Trump said 2026 will be a peaceful year...... any neighboring country nominating Trump for Noble peace for this year?
 
Invasion is all good if America does it. So by logic China taking Taiwan- which is part of China shouldn't have any international consequences 🤔
International consequences really just means American response. They set the rules, others obey.

If the Americans break the rules, we'll the rules must have been wrong.


For all the talk of a multi polar world, recent events have shown that America is the only superpower.

Sure it's might may be waning. But the others are still a long way behind

And if China is worried about "international consequences" it shows just how behind the US it is.
 
Invasion is all good if America does it. So by logic China taking Taiwan- which is part of China shouldn't have any international consequences 🤔

It’s a perfect time for China to take full control of Taiwan . However China is expanding fast as a military power while US is in decline , sit back and wait for the empire to fall . Empires coming to an end always act in desperation
 
Is munching on Chinese dimsums compulsive or something? They don't give two ***** about you guys, lol.
What is relationship of India with Venezuela.

They have good relations with other Latin American countries, for example Brazil, Modi is quite fond of Lula.

How about Venezuela is there anything significant or no links at all?
 
I'm still finding this tough to believe. Obviously nobody likes despots like Maduro but for the US to fly in and kidnap the Head of State of a sovereign country is a new level of power projection.

China is either unable or unwilling to provide a counterbalance so the US and it's allies like Israel are now able to act at pre nation-state levels.

Why would China get involved in affairs which are on the US doorstep? They are quite sensibly more concerned with local issues in Asia, at least when it comes to military intervention.

The USA is in a league of it's own, and at home Trump has come under increasing pressure due to getting dragged into the Epstein child grooming scandal. Some of the stories of his involvement are truly horrific, and he badly needs a war to distract from this.
 
Trump has knocked out two pro Putin regimes ( Syria and Venezuela) while keeping Putin tied up and embroiled in Ukraine.

More like he's been ordered by AIPAC to deal with Anti zionest regimes.

Shamefully, Shxxbaz and Fake General of Pakistan deemed Trump as a man of peace.
 
Why would China get involved in affairs which are on the US doorstep? They are quite sensibly more concerned with local issues in Asia, at least when it comes to military intervention.

The USA is in a league of it's own, and at home Trump has come under increasing pressure due to getting dragged into the Epstein child grooming scandal. Some of the stories of his involvement are truly horrific, and he badly needs a war to distract from this.
Playing off superpowers against each other was the only way to survive for a lot of small to medium countries when they had something one of the superpowers wanted - whether strategic position or natural resources.

The USSR in the days when it was one was at least willing to play ball. You're right that China is not willing. It's happy with it's bunch of puppets in it's immediate neighbourhood - North Korea, Myanmar even Russia at a stretch. With the rest of the world, it'll lend money but nothing more.
 
That's the difference between USSR and PRC. PRC does not have USSR's heart and commitment to solidarity of international working class.
Why would China get involved in affairs which are on the US doorstep? They are quite sensibly more concerned with local issues in Asia, at least when it comes to military intervention.

The USA is in a league of it's own, and at home Trump has come under increasing pressure due to getting dragged into the Epstein child grooming scandal. Some of the stories of his involvement are truly horrific, and he badly needs a war to distract from this.
 
International consequences really just means American response. They set the rules, others obey.

If the Americans break the rules, we'll the rules must have been wrong.


For all the talk of a multi polar world, recent events have shown that America is the only superpower.

Sure it's might may be waning. But the others are still a long way behind

And if China is worried about "international consequences" it shows just how behind the US it is.
I agree. However, the Chinese and others could pull the rug by not using the Dollar as a reserve currency
 
Playing off superpowers against each other was the only way to survive for a lot of small to medium countries when they had something one of the superpowers wanted - whether strategic position or natural resources.

The USSR in the days when it was one was at least willing to play ball. You're right that China is not willing. It's happy with it's bunch of puppets in it's immediate neighbourhood - North Korea, Myanmar even Russia at a stretch. With the rest of the world, it'll lend money but nothing more.


All countries should be more concerned with their immediate neighbourhoods rather than launching wars across the globe against countries which are no military threat to them. The days of the Raj are over. Or at least they should be. Only the USA looks to impose a world order through military conquest these days, and even they are now concentrating their efforts closer to home.
 
All countries should be more concerned with their immediate neighbourhoods rather than launching wars across the globe against countries which are no military threat to them. The days of the Raj are over. Or at least they should be. Only the USA looks to impose a world order through military conquest these days, and even they are now concentrating their efforts closer to home.
On the contrary, the days of the Raj are at their absolute peak. There's no country in the world whose prime foreign policy concern is how to manage relations with the US.
 
I agree. However, the Chinese and others could pull the rug by not using the Dollar as a reserve currency
That's massive losses for China and whoever else joins them. The very point everyone's making is that China is not currently capable of absorbing such huge losses either militarily or economically.

Maybe they'll get there someday in the future but right now, they have to stay in line like the rest of the world.

To be honest, just like you, I'd overestimated their capabilities. It's been a sobering experience to see what the US can get away with if it wants to.
 
Indians on this forum have habbit of Comparing their Failed Bollywood style operation Tandoor to every Global Military intervention. US forces going in Kidnapping the head of state is what these dellusional sanghis dream of in their movies . In Desperation they fired Brahmos after loosing lot of jets and call this victory while Pak is still here along with Asim Munir
 
Not a fan of Trump I think he's some weird childish bully. But I'm actually going to defend trump here. Yes it sets the wrong precedence some foreign country coming in. But I also think it's immoral to leave a countries citizens suffering in the hands of a dictator just because of precedence. Yes Trump probably did it for other reasons, I'm not sure whether the narco terrorism charge is true or not. But I'm sure most Venezuelans want him gone even if perhaps they didn't want US to come and do it personally.

North Korea is a much worse situation. And if Trump next day said we're going to come in and take their dictator out I would be all aboard. But they can't do it, because of nuclear weapons and China's support even if they wanted to.

And dictators are very difficult to get rid of in a country. In a democracy however bad the ruler is you can at least vote them out. That's why I can't say I'm too mad about this even if it might be ethically wrong for US to do this on some level, if it actually saves the Venezuelans a few more decades of Maduro's rule.
 
Not a fan of Trump I think he's some weird childish bully. But I'm actually going to defend trump here. Yes it sets the wrong precedence some foreign country coming in. But I also think it's immoral to leave a countries citizens suffering in the hands of a dictator just because of precedence. Yes Trump probably did it for other reasons, I'm not sure whether the narco terrorism charge is true or not. But I'm sure most Venezuelans want him gone even if perhaps they didn't want US to come and do it personally.

North Korea is a much worse situation. And if Trump next day said we're going to come in and take their dictator out I would be all aboard. But they can't do it, because of nuclear weapons and China's support even if they wanted to.

And dictators are very difficult to get rid of in a country. In a democracy however bad the ruler is you can at least vote them out. That's why I can't say I'm too mad about this even if it might be ethically wrong for US to do this on some level, if it actually saves the Venezuelans a few more decades of Maduro's rule.
Democracy is just an illusion my friend. Most of these democracies are choosing between 1a and 1b, the same broken record but in a different colour.
 

Let’s be honest about it, King.
We both know who is going to be the ultimate boss in a few decades and the destiny is doing major realignments right now in order for that day to arrive sooner than most people had anticipated. You know of that ancient power because you’re connected to it somehow and you feel it every day and night.
 
Disgusting!!

Iran should take note and immediately start preparing nukes

Only way to be secure is through nukes, just ask North Korea
 
Sanatanis have the right to ridicule phoney nations when they get exposed.

China has been exposed throughout 2025 as an Unreliable ally and a mere silent spectator when its allies get pounded (Pakistan, Iran, Venezuela)
China pride their economy over anything else. They're not going to take a hit to support another country in war. The only formal ally China have is North Korea. They don't even have one with Russia. And as evidenced mostly played a neutral stance in the Russia-Ukraine war rather than fully backing. They didn't want to take the economic hit. It's actually admirable in that way, weapons and war is the old way of competing. In today's world if you want power, expand your economy. This is where it differs from Putin is doing with force and moaning over former presidents relinquishing control of Soviet Union countries.

Pakistan is a friend of China, but is mostly aided through financial loans which also help China. There is no free meal so to speak. China also would most likely hate the situation if Pakistan became a true competitor for them in the area. They are already competing with India. Pakistan too would be an issue (not saying Pakistan are anywhere near getting there, but population alone they have potential).

America on the other hand has given plenty of aid without expecting it back monetarily. Yes they have demanded pakistan fight against terrorism there too. But USA would quite like as a foreign power to see Pakistan do well, and give competition to China and India to an extent. Anything that competes with America's nearest competitors is good for them. Which is why it kind of makes more sense to side with USA over China. Or Russia.

I get US are bad. But the alternatives feel worse that's the issue. And no country if you're not economically large to stand by yourself (US, China, maybe India or India could be there eventually), you've got to pick a side. This is where Imran Khan was wrong I think. Yes in an ideal world it would be great if Pakistan could stand alone. But in reality its not feasible until the country gets to a stage where it is able to. And the closer ties to Russia and China didn't really give anything more while the worsening ties with the west will hurt both aid and trade with Pakistan.
 
Democracy is just an illusion my friend. Most of these democracies are choosing between 1a and 1b, the same broken record but in a different colour.
Just because it's choice between two or three doesn't mean its an illusion. I feel we have a proper democracy in UK, we can vote who we want in or out. In US they do the same, and they even have a max term. Many countries have proper democracies. Yes there are faults in democratic countries, but its important to have the choice at least at the election.

I've rarely seen countries that are actually living under dictators, rigged elections etc. doing well or the people supporting that regime. Even if they start with somehow good intentions, they will increasingly devolve into worse violence and acts in order to retain power given that they can't do that with the popular vote.
 
China pride their economy over anything else. They're not going to take a hit to support another country in war. The only formal ally China have is North Korea. They don't even have one with Russia. And as evidenced mostly played a neutral stance in the Russia-Ukraine war rather than fully backing. They didn't want to take the economic hit. It's actually admirable in that way, weapons and war is the old way of competing. In today's world if you want power, expand your economy. This is where it differs from Putin is doing with force and moaning over former presidents relinquishing control of Soviet Union countries.

Pakistan is a friend of China, but is mostly aided through financial loans which also help China. There is no free meal so to speak. China also would most likely hate the situation if Pakistan became a true competitor for them in the area. They are already competing with India. Pakistan too would be an issue (not saying Pakistan are anywhere near getting there, but population alone they have potential).

America on the other hand has given plenty of aid without expecting it back monetarily. Yes they have demanded pakistan fight against terrorism there too. But USA would quite like as a foreign power to see Pakistan do well, and give competition to China and India to an extent. Anything that competes with America's nearest competitors is good for them. Which is why it kind of makes more sense to side with USA over China. Or Russia.

I get US are bad. But the alternatives feel worse that's the issue. And no country if you're not economically large to stand by yourself (US, China, maybe India or India could be there eventually), you've got to pick a side. This is where Imran Khan was wrong I think. Yes in an ideal world it would be great if Pakistan could stand alone. But in reality its not feasible until the country gets to a stage where it is able to. And the closer ties to Russia and China didn't really give anything more while the worsening ties with the west will hurt both aid and trade with Pakistan.

They’re just afraid of losing.

China is a scared cowardly nation.

Sitting on the fence has screwed their chances of ever surpassing USA significantly.

Actually today it’s not Venezuela but China that lost a huge geopolitical game.

Pakistanis can try their best to hide that but the whole world is witness to the fall of the Chinese dreams today
 
Playing off superpowers against each other was the only way to survive for a lot of small to medium countries when they had something one of the superpowers wanted - whether strategic position or natural resources.

The USSR in the days when it was one was at least willing to play ball. You're right that China is not willing. It's happy with it's bunch of puppets in it's immediate neighbourhood - North Korea, Myanmar even Russia at a stretch. With the rest of the world, it'll lend money but nothing more.
China isn’t going to war for anyone that’s for sure

They will pay someone to fight their wars
 
On the contrary, the days of the Raj are at their absolute peak. There's no country in the world whose prime foreign policy concern is NOT how to manage relations with the US.

Not sure what you are saying here. Could you decipher it please?
Missed a 'not'. It's weird for the whole world to be loving under one country's hegemony. Even in the days of the old Raj, the other European powers had other concerns besides the Brits.
 
Why would China get involved in affairs which are on the US doorstep? They are quite sensibly more concerned with local issues in Asia, at least when it comes to military intervention.

The USA is in a league of it's own, and at home Trump has come under increasing pressure due to getting dragged into the Epstein child grooming scandal. Some of the stories of his involvement are truly horrific, and he badly needs a war to distract from this.
Reports say maduro met Chinese envoy hours before the us strikes,

China isn’t going to war with anyone for anyone

They can give money and weapons but no boots on the ground ground
 
Good analysis from this guy

But I don't think there will be any resistance from Venezuela. America will capture it's resources without many bullets being fired.

Then the gun will surely point towards Iran. That is a whole other kettle of fish and can't be analysed solely through the prism of oil prices.
Iran is facing a anti establishment movement so don’t think usa is going to intervene militarily
 
Do you think China should go to war for another country halfway across the globe?
From the Chinese perspective, certainly not. From the perspective of the rest of the world (excepting a few countries including India), it would be nice if they at least pretended to care about a supposed ally.

I dislike Maduro as much as the next person but unlike say Saddam, he's done little harm to anyone except Venezuelans and it should've been Venezuelans' prerogative to deal with him with some international assistance where possible.
 
Iran is facing a anti establishment movement so don’t think usa is going to intervene militarily
If the regime is close to collapsing they may look to intervene.

Israelis and Emirates may put pressure on them too take out Ayatollah if he appears weak.

These anti establishment protests happen every few years and the regime usually counters them.
 
Do you think China should go to war for another country halfway across the globe?

China is not stupid like the low-IQ sanghis. They are unlikely to go to war over this.

However, China is more likely to grab Indian territory. That is very easy for them. :inti

China have grabbed 38,000 sq km of Indian territory since 1962. They are likely to take Arunachal Pradesh soon. Sanghis cannot do anything about it.
 
That's massive losses for China and whoever else joins them. The very point everyone's making is that China is not currently capable of absorbing such huge losses either militarily or economically.

Maybe they'll get there someday in the future but right now, they have to stay in line like the rest of the world.

To be honest, just like you, I'd overestimated their capabilities. It's been a sobering experience to see what the US can get away with if it wants to.
Not so sure. Bomb a few boats, claim they are smuggling drugs into China and then use that as an excuse. The Zionist American elite needs a bloody nose
 

What we know about Maduro's capture​


The US has captured Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro after a large scale strike on the South American country, US President Donald Trump has said.

Trump said Venezuela's left-wing president and his wife were flown out of the country in a military operation in conjunction with US law enforcement. They have been charged with drug and weapons offences in New York.

It comes after explosions were reported across the capital Caracas in the early hours of Saturday morning, including at military bases.

The Venezuelan government has since demanded proof Maduro is alive. It has also deployed its armed forces and declared a national emergency.

Maduro's capture comes after heightened tensions between the two countries, with Washington striking boats in the Caribbean it says are being used to carry drugs.

The US has accused the Venezuelan president of being personally involved in drug-smuggling and being an illegitimate leader, while Maduro has accused the US of intimidation.

Here is what we know so far.

Maduro was captured by the US army's Delta force - the military's top counter terrorism unit - according to the BBC's US news partner CBS.

Trump told Fox and Friends on Saturday that Maduro and his wife were taken from "a house that was more like a fortress". The president said US forces were prepared with "massive blowtorches" to cut through steel, but said Maduro "did not make it into that area of the house".

Trump said no US forces were killed and there were "few" injuries in the operation, which he said he watched live.

Maduro and his wife were on a ship on their way to New York City, Trump said.

Trump is due to hold a news conference at his Mar-a-Lago residence in Florida at 11:00 EST (16:00 GMT) at which further details about the operation may be disclosed.

Republican Senator Mike Lee, who spoke to US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, said "he [Rubio] anticipates no further action in Venezuela now that Maduro is in US custody, adding that the strikes were "deployed to protect and defend those executing the arrest warrant".
Around 02:00 local time (06:00 GMT), loud explosions were heard in Caracas, while plumes of smoke were seen rising over the city.

Videos of explosions and helicopters flying overhead have been circulating on social media, but they have not been verified yet.

It is not known if there have been any casualties.

The Venezuelan government also said the states of Miranda, Aragua and La Guaira were also hit.


AFP via Getty Images Fuerte Tiuna, one of Venezuela's largest military bases was hit
AFP via Getty Images, Fuerte Tiuna, one of Venezuela's largest military bases was hit in Caracas

Where were the strikes?​

Map of areas struck in Venezuela


BBC Verify is working through a number of videos showing explosions, fire and smoke in locations around Caracas to identify exactly which sites were targeted.

It has confirmed three locations, so far:

  • Generalissimo Francisco de Miranda Air Base, an airfield known as La Carlota
  • Port La Guaira, Caracas' main conduit to the Caribbean Sea, located in Miranda state
  • Higuerote Airport, also located in Miranda state, just east of Caracas

What has Donald Trump said?​

Reuters U.S. President Donald Trump looks on as he departs the White House en route to Glendale, Arizona
Reuters

Trump took to his Truth Social platform to confirm the US was behind the strikes on Saturday morning.

"The United States of America has successfully carried out a large scale strike against Venezuela and its leader, President Nicolas Maduro, who has been, along with his wife, captured and flown out of the Country," Trump wrote.

"This operation was done in conjunction with US Law Enforcement. Details to follow."

The US president described it as a "brilliant operation" to the New York Times in a 50-second phone call.

In his interview with Fox and Friends later, he described the operation in more detail.

He said US forces had been "prepared for a second wave" but did not have to conduct one because the first was "so powerful".

Trump said he spoke to Maduro a week ago, adding he had told him "basically I said you have to give up, you have to surrender".

Trump said Maduro had wanted to negotiate.

Regarding who would now govern the country, Trump said "we'll be involved in it very much".

What has Maduro been charged with?​

US attorney General Pam Bondi said Maduro and his wife, First Lady Cilia Flores, had been indicted in the Southern District of New York.

They have been charged with conspiracy to commit narco-terrorism and import cocaine, possession of machine guns and destructive devices, and conspiracy to possess machine guns and destructive devices against the US.

"They will soon face the full wrath of American justice on American soil in American courts," Bondi wrote on X.

It is unclear if the couple are now on US soil.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4qgvwxp08o

How has Venezuela reacted?​

Venezuela's Vice-President Delcy Rodríguez said the government did not know where Maduro and his wife were, and demanded "immediate proof of life" for them both.

The country's defence minister Vladimir Padrino López claimed the strikes hit civilian areas and said the government was compiling information about dead and injured people.

He added that Venezuela would "resist" the presence of foreign troops.

Venezuela's government issued an official statement denouncing the "extremely serious military aggression" by the US "against Venezuelan territory and population in civilian and military locations".

It also accused the US of threatening international peace and stability and described the attack as an attempt to seize "Venezuela's strategic resources, particularly its oil and minerals" in an attempt to "forcibly break the political independence of the nation".

Who is Maduro and why has he been captured?​

Nicolás Maduro rose to prominence under the leadership of left-wing President Hugo Chávez and his United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV). He succeeded Chávez as president in 2013.

In 2024, Maduro was declared winner of the presidential election, even though voting tallies collected by the opposition suggested that its candidate, Edmundo González, had won by a landslide.

He has been at odds with Trump over the arrival of hundreds of thousands of Venezuelan migrants in the US and the movement of drugs into the US, in particular fentanyl and cocaine.

Trump has designated two Venezuelan drug gangs - Tren de Aragua and Cartel de los Soles - as Foreign Terrorist Organisations (FTOs) and has alleged that the latter was led by Maduro himself.

The US had offered a $50m (£37m) reward for information leading to Maduro's arrest.

Maduro has vehemently denied being a cartel leader and has accused the US of using its "war on drugs" as an excuse to try to depose him and get its hands on Venezuela's vast oil reserves.

In recent months, US forces have also carried out more than two dozen strikes in international waters on boats it alleges have been used to traffick drugs into the US. More than 100 people have been killed.

Who is Maduro's wife, Cilia Flores?​

First Lady Cilia Flores - who was also taken to the US and indicted alongside her husband - has held a number of senior posts in Venezuela, including attorney general and president of the national assembly. She is seen as a powerful political operator in her own right.

Flores, 59, is colloquially known as Maduro's primera combatiente (first warrior), and has often been pictured at his side during public engagements.

Like her husband, she was living under US sanctions - which were imposed during Trump's first presidency on the allegation that she was involved in Maduro's corrupt practices. At the time, Maduro hit back by saying: "You don't mess with Cilia. You don't mess with family."

Flores is a lawyer by training, and she once fought for the release from prison of Hugo Chávez, who tried to seize control of the Venezuelan government in 1992 and later went on to become the country's president. Her career became forever linked with Chávez's movement.

Flores's tenure as head of the National Assembly was not without controversy, including her decision to prohibit press access to the parliamentary chamber, and accusations of nepotism.

Flores's relatives have previously been targeted by the Americans on similar accusations of drugs trafficking. In 2015, two of her nephews were arrested in Haiti and convicted and imprisoned in the US on drugs charges. They were later released under a 2022 prisoner swap.

How have other countries reacted?​

News of the strikes prompted the strongest reaction from Venezuela's long-term allies.

Russia accused the US of committing "an act of armed aggression" that was "deeply concerning and condemnable".

China's foreign ministry said in a statement that it was "deeply shocked and strongly condemns" the use of force against a sovereign country and its president.

Iran's foreign ministry called the strikes a "flagrant violation of the country's national sovereignty".

Colombian President Gustavo Petro called the strikes an "assault on the sovereignty" of Latin America, while Cuba's President Miguel Diaz-Canel described it as a "criminal attack".

Brazil's president Luiz Inacio Lula Da Silva wrote on X that the bombings and Maduro's capture "cross an unacceptable line", adding "attacking countries in flagrant violation of international law is the first step toward a world of violence, chaos, and instability".

Chile's President Gabriel Boric expressed "concern and condemnation" on X and called for "a peaceful solution to the serious crisis affecting the country".

Meanwhile, Trump's ally in Argentina, Javier Milei, wrote "Freedom moves forward" and "Long live freedom" on social media.

The EU's top diplomat Kaja Kallas reiterated the bloc's position that Maduro lacks legitimacy and that there should be a peaceful transition of power, but said the principles of international law must be respected.

UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer said he wanted to "establish facts" and speak to Trump first about the "fast moving situation".

 
They will not go to war unless venezuela was in south china sea or something, going to war for someone else is difficult and hard to sustain

Exactly. They are mostly minding their own business. The world would be a better place if inheritors of the British Raj had the same philosophy.
 
Exactly. They are mostly minding their own business. The world would be a better place if inheritors of the British Raj had the same philosophy.
They would give money and weapons to venezuela if maduro asked but no boots on the ground ground outside chinese territory.
 
From the Chinese perspective, certainly not. From the perspective of the rest of the world (excepting a few countries including India), it would be nice if they at least pretended to care about a supposed ally.

I dislike Maduro as much as the next person but unlike say Saddam, he's done little harm to anyone except Venezuelans and it should've been Venezuelans' prerogative to deal with him with some international assistance where possible.
Sadam mostly hurt people of Iraq too. All these dictators do. They use force against their people to retain their control in the absence of winning their votes. It's rarely in their best interests to do stuff against other countries to great extent as other countries can fight back with armies. And then they can lose power. So there often just is no sense doing so for them. In fact if these stories of Maduro being involved in the drug cartel is true, he might have a greater negative effect on USA than Iraq ever did.

Even Kim Jong Un, it's mostly showboating, he does next to nothing against foreign countries. Deep down he know he can't provoke them. Instead he does stuff against his own people, and the odd unfortunate tourist.

I agree that I'd prefer Venezuela dealt with it themselves, with international assistance where possible. But there's no guarantee that that would be enough. US might already have been trying this over the years. And even if you back, as seen in other countries this can lead to a long civil war which leads to a country getting destroyed and many people killed. This way maybe Venezuela are better off. Quick, not many died, dictator is now gone, and you can quickly aim to establish some sort of democracy. Instead of a long drawn out civil war.

I'd be much more in support of these wars or attacks if they were actually done to help the people or depose the dictator. Iraq war would have been so much better if they'd done it in the name of removing a terrible dictator. Instead the reasons that they did it for (probably oil, but I guess officially non existent mass weapons of destruction) are worse.
 
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