Dutch anti-Islam lawmaker cancels Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest [Update Post #91]

[Abdullah719]

Pakistan has lodged a strong protest with the Netherlands over a Dutch politician’s announcement of holding a competition of blasphemous caricatures.

“The charge d’affaires of the Kingdom of the Netherlands was summoned to the Foreign Office on Monday and a strong protest was lodged on the announcement by the leader of the Dutch Freedom Party and Parliamentarian, Geert Wilders, to hold a competition of blasphemous caricatures,” according to a statement issued by the Foreign Office.

“Deep concern was conveyed at this deliberate and malicious attempt to defame Islam,” it said.
The federal cabinet, in its today’s meeting, also strongly condemned this abominable and reprehensible plan. “Pakistan’s ambassador in The Hague has been instructed to forcefully raise the issue with the Dutch government along with ambassadors of OIC member states,” the Foreign Office said.

It added that Pakistan’s permanent representatives to the United Nations in New York and Geneva have also been directed to take up the matter with the UN secretary general, UN high commissioner for human rights and other UN-related bodies and procedures.

The former foreign minister had written to the OIC secretary general seeking his leadership in this matter, who in turn has written to the Dutch foreign minister on behalf of the bloc, protesting against this abominable event.

The matter would also be discussed in the forthcoming meeting of the OIC’s Council of Foreign Ministers, scheduled to be held on the sidelines of the 73rd session of the UN General Assembly in September. Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi will lead the Pakistan delegation to this meeting and raise the issue of blasphemous caricatures.

The government would continue to vigorously pursue the matter with the Dutch government and raise it at the relevant international fora for preventing this abhorrent act from taking place.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1785403/1-pakistan-protests-dutch-govt-blasphemous-caricature-contest/

 

[world cup captain]

Can Pakistan just mind it's own business rather than try to ruin its relationship with every damn country on the planet?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Can Pakistan just mind it's own business rather than try to ruin its relationship with every damn country on the planet?

Abuse of the Prophet(pbuh) becomes the business of every Muslim. Relationship with Holland ? Its not the 1600’s when the Dutch were a powerful empire, today it has no influence in the world. The Dutch won’t mind anyway as they themselves are sick of fascists who lost badly in the elections .

You’re a weak cowardly nation if you can’t defend what is important to you or at the least speak against it . Pakistan no longer is .

 

[BlackShadow]

Abuse of the Prophet(pbuh) becomes the business of every Muslim. Relationship with Holland ? Its not the 1600’s when the Dutch were a powerful empire, today it has no influence in the world. The Dutch won’t mind anyway as they themselves are sick of fascists who lost badly in the elections .

You’re a weak cowardly nation if you can’t defend what is important to you or at the least speak against it . Pakistan no longer is .

Has Pakistan spoken up about millions of Muslims being tortured in Chinese prisons aka "re-education" camps?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Has Pakistan spoken up about millions of Muslims being tortured in Chinese prisons aka "re-education" camps? [/B]

China is an ally & im sure they will in private because China isn’t Islamaphobic . As far as I know no Chinese politician holds competitons abusing Prophets of God . If you knew anything you’d know it’s an enthnic issue not a religious one as you see in some countries such as Hindutva India . Now stick to the topic or bump up the relevant thread

 

[BlackShadow]

China is an ally & im sure they will in private because China isn’t Islamaphobic . As far as I know no Chinese politician holds competitons abusing Prophets of God . If you knew anything you’d know it’s an enthnic issue not a religious one as you see in some countries such as Hindutva India . Now stick to the topic or bump up the relevant thread

Your chest-thumping above invited my comment. I think we both realize that Pakistan's response to millions of Muslims being tortured in China has been silence, so stop giving us this false bravado just because Pakistan called out some silly contest in Netherlands.

 

[world cup captain]

Abuse of the Prophet(pbuh) becomes the business of every Muslim. Relationship with Holland ? Its not the 1600’s when the Dutch were a powerful empire, today it has no influence in the world. The Dutch won’t mind anyway as they themselves are sick of fascists who lost badly in the elections .

You’re a weak cowardly nation if you can’t defend what is important to you or at the least speak against it . Pakistan no longer is .

In that case Pakistan should stand up to every nation that takes any action against Islam. We should lodge a complaint against Switzerland for denying the muslim couple for not giving citizenship for refusing to shake hands. We should stop taking money from the U.S. due killings of hundreds of innocent muslims. We should also lodge a complaint against Saudia for doing the same. Why don't we do that?

 

[enkidu_]

The 'ummah should boycott/cut off ties with Holland, if the US can put pressure on Turkey for a dodgy pastor we must do it for the best of human creation.

 

[Mueez]

Went to Pakistani mosque today in NL.

Molvi saab did a 'dharghaast' to the government to cancel the event.


Hopefully it will be canceled, otherwise...

 

[JaDed]

China is not Islamophobic but NL is..yer ask Chinese Muslims which authority would they prefer.

 

[good guy]

Hopefully it will be canceled, otherwise...

otherwise what ?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The 'ummah should boycott/cut off ties with Holland, if the US can put pressure on Turkey for a dodgy pastor we must do it for the best of human creation.

This is the correct answer from the position of true faith. But due to Pakistan's lack of international clout, it is not in a position to cut off ties with lots of non-Muslim nations who allow/encourage insults to the Prophet PBUH. So it seems a bit pointless making a complaint when there is no threat or sanction to back it up. Would be better to just stay quiet in my view.

 

[Varun]

There are dozens of Muslim countries in the world, but I can't imagine anybody other than Pakistan doing this.

 

[Mamoon]

There are dozens of Muslim countries in the world, but I can't imagine anybody other than Pakistan doing this.

It is called Ummah Custodian Syndrome. There is no cure available as of yet.

 

[Mamoon]

And so it begins. Getting WhatsApp forwarded texts on the products/services that we should boycott because they are Dutch.

Here is the list if anyone’s interested. If you don’t stop using these products, you will rot in Hell. The Dutch are already shivering in fear.

 

[Pakpak]

I mean its not like we have other problems to protest about. /s

 

[Varun]

And so it begins. Getting WhatsApp forwarded texts on the products/services that we should boycott because they are Dutch.

Here is the list if anyone’s interested. If you don’t stop using these products, you will rot in Hell. The Dutch are already shivering in fear.

View attachment 83432

Which one of those brands is Dutch? Genuine question, because Lipton, Dove, Fair & lovely, Cornetto and nearly everything else is obviously not.

 

[Mamoon]

Which one of those brands is Dutch? Genuine question, because Lipton, Dove, Fair & lovely, Cornetto and nearly everything else is obviously not.

I think quite a few of them are Unilever products which is British-Dutch.

 

[enkidu_]

This is the correct answer from the position of true faith. But due to Pakistan's lack of international clout, it is not in a position to cut off ties with lots of non-Muslim nations who allow/encourage insults to the Prophet PBUH. So it seems a bit pointless making a complaint when there is no threat or sanction to back it up. Would be better to just stay quiet in my view.

A genuine prayer will resonate in the spiritual abode for aeons after the withering away of the vocal chords which uttered it : the final triumph is always of the spiritual over the material.

The very minimum here would be to boycott Dutch products, and if somehow one can't, he or she should at least vigorously protest on social media.

There are many types of jihad, and when you can't rise up with weapons do it with the tongue or the heart.

Both the rooster and the falcon have wings, but only one can fly : situations like these show if you're a genuine Muslim shaheen, conqueror of the skies and neighbor of the sun, or are condemned to simply crow before the sunrise, trapped in a dawn it hasn't chosen.

 

[JaDed]

Which one of those brands is Dutch? Genuine question, because Lipton, Dove, Fair & lovely, Cornetto and nearly everything else is obviously not.

Fair and lovely according to wiki is Hindustan Unilever .

 

[JaDed]

Shell is Dutch ,do Pakistan have that?That would be a major blow for Dutch if you boycott that.

 

[Mamoon]

Shell is Dutch ,do Pakistan have that?That would be a major blow for Dutch if you boycott that.

Yes we do.

 

[Mamoon]

A genuine prayer will resonate in the spiritual abode for aeons after the withering away of the vocal chords which uttered it : the final triumph is always of the spiritual over the material.

The very minimum here would be to boycott Dutch products, and if somehow one can't, he or she should at least vigorously protest on social media.

There are many types of jihad, and when you can't rise up with weapons do it with the tongue or the heart.

Both the rooster and the falcon have wings, but only one can fly : situations like these show if you're a genuine Muslim shaheen, conqueror of the skies and neighbor of the sun, or are condemned to simply crow before the sunrise, trapped in a dawn it hasn't chosen.

As a Muslim shaheen and conqueror of the skies and the guardian of the galaxy, I feel inspired.

I think I am gonna go and toss my Toni & Guy shampoo and Dove soap into the trash.

 

[enkidu_]

As a Muslim shaheen and conqueror of the skies and the guardian of the galaxy, I feel inspired.

I think I am gonna go and toss my Toni & Guy shampoo and Dove soap into the trash.

Go on, little steps create pyramids, I've personally stopped drinking Coca-Cola since the US war on Iraq.

 

[Josh]

And so it begins. Getting WhatsApp forwarded texts on the products/services that we should boycott because they are Dutch.

Here is the list if anyone’s interested. If you don’t stop using these products, you will rot in Hell. The Dutch are already shivering in fear.

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Where is Heineken man. This Dutch company is most popular

 

[PakLFC]

Yes these things rightfully upset Muslim people. I am glad that Pakistan has taken a stand on the issue by protesting in a mature manner. Just don't lose your head and start burning your own country.

 

[barah_admi]

Abuse of the Prophet(pbuh) becomes the business of every Muslim. Relationship with Holland ? Its not the 1600’s when the Dutch were a powerful empire, today it has no influence in the world. The Dutch won’t mind anyway as they themselves are sick of fascists who lost badly in the elections .

You’re a weak cowardly nation if you can’t defend what is important to you or at the least speak against it . Pakistan no longer is .

Exactly, great post.

Just wish the "Muslims" on this forum would stop posting on these threads.

 

[ManFan]

The Dutch contest holders want a reaction much like that of the Jylland-Posten Cartoon Controversy.

It’s best to give them the least response possible and suffer fools gladly.

 

[Varun]

The Dutch contest holders want a reaction much like that of the Jylland-Posten Cartoon Controversy.

It’s best to give them the least response possible and suffer fools gladly.

Which is what is NOT happening looking at this thread alone.

 

[KingKhanWC]

In that case Pakistan should stand up to every nation that takes any action against Islam. We should lodge a complaint against Switzerland for denying the muslim couple for not giving citizenship for refusing to shake hands. We should stop taking money from the U.S. due killings of hundreds of innocent muslims. We should also lodge a complaint against Saudia for doing the same. Why don't we do that?

I agree with distancing from the yanks & saudis. Pakistan already is telling America we aint your ..... Anymore.

 

[ManFan]

Which is what is NOT happening looking at this thread alone.

Exactly.

The more hoopla is made about this, the wider their smiles get.

 

[Mueez]

otherwise what ?

Life will become more difficult for Pakistani community.

Or you might see me back in PK! (worst scenario, which ain't happening imo)

 

[TM Riddle]

And so it begins. Getting WhatsApp forwarded texts on the products/services that we should boycott because they are Dutch.

Here is the list if anyone’s interested. If you don’t stop using these products, you will rot in Hell. The Dutch are already shivering in fear.

View attachment 83432

Fair n lovely are Dutch?
What a disappointment!

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

A genuine prayer will resonate in the spiritual abode for aeons after the withering away of the vocal chords which uttered it : the final triumph is always of the spiritual over the material.

The very minimum here would be to boycott Dutch products, and if somehow one can't, he or she should at least vigorously protest on social media.

There are many types of jihad, and when you can't rise up with weapons do it with the tongue or the heart.

Both the rooster and the falcon have wings, but only one can fly : situations like these show if you're a genuine Muslim shaheen, conqueror of the skies and neighbor of the sun, or are condemned to simply crow before the sunrise, trapped in a dawn it hasn't chosen.

I am going to go ahead an nominate this for POTW. Sheer poetry. Mamoon can mock with his list of Dutch products, but only jealousy IMO, he couldn't come up with anything close.

 

[troodon]

Best response to such things by Muslims is to ignore it.

 

[IAJ]

It is called Ummah Custodian Syndrome. There is no cure available as of yet.

As I have told you before you should stop scoring cheap points so you can get «daad» from Indian posters and few others. There is no issues whatsoever to condemn this act strongly. Yes, there is often double standard in some matters there in Pakistan, but this matter is very sensitive and it touches the imaan. So Pakistan are just using their right properly.

And yes Pakistan should also speak to China about the muslims suffering there.

 

[pakistan cricket fan]

The Dutch contest holders want a reaction much like that of the Jylland-Posten Cartoon Controversy.

It’s best to give them the least response possible and suffer fools gladly.

I came to know about this contest since my family and fiance told me that there are protest against Holland.
And i agree with you better to ignore this clown.

 

[Loralai]

Absurd. Who cares about cartoons enough to lodge an international protest. No wonder we are an international joke with no diplomatic clout.

 

[Itachi]

It seems like the Pakistanis who lives in a foreign land for a better life (more money) is lecturing about principles and how Pakistan should show responsibility towards it where as Pakistanis living in Pakistan wants to just mind own business.

Not sure which side is right.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Abuse of the Prophet(pbuh) becomes the business of every Muslim. Relationship with Holland ? Its not the 1600’s when the Dutch were a powerful empire, today it has no influence in the world. The Dutch won’t mind anyway as they themselves are sick of fascists who lost badly in the elections .

You’re a weak cowardly nation if you can’t defend what is important to you or at the least speak against it . Pakistan no longer is .

Dutch dont have influence, but Pakistan has? What can Pakistan do to make the dutch listen to them? Nothing. The Dutch have far more influence. Its funny how you try to make fun of another country.

Is the UK lodging a protest? Why dont you ask UK to lodge a protest with the dutch?Are they defending what is important to you?

 

[cricketjoshila]

It seems like the Pakistanis who lives in a foreign land for a better life (more money) is lecturing about principles and how Pakistan should show responsibility towards it where as Pakistanis living in Pakistan wants to just mind own business.

Not sure which side is right.

And none of them would go and ask the country they live in to lodge a protest.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Dutch dont have influence, but Pakistan has? What can Pakistan do to make the dutch listen to them? Nothing. The Dutch have far more influence. Its funny how you try to make fun of another country.

Is the UK lodging a protest? Why dont you ask UK to lodge a protest with the dutch?Are they defending what is important to you?

The UK doesn’t allow such nonsense in the name of freedom of speech .

Pakistan has a right to lodge any protest it wants . Don’t expect saffron Indians to understand & niether do I care to explain.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The UK doesn’t allow such nonsense in the name of freedom of speech .

Pakistan has a right to lodge any protest it wants . Don’t expect saffron Indians to understand & niether do I care to explain.

Is UK lodging a protest or not? You are a British citizen, Is your country going to lodge a protest for what is important to you?

No one questioned Pakistan's right to protest? But since you made fun of the Dutch and their influence why not tell what influence Pakistan has in comparision to the Dutch?

 

[IAJ]

It seems like the Pakistanis who lives in a foreign land for a better life (more money) is lecturing about principles and how Pakistan should show responsibility towards it where as Pakistanis living in Pakistan wants to just mind own business.

Not sure which side is right.

Poor post. Living abroad doesn’t make you less pakistani. And do you even know how people back home are supported by their overseas relatives? It’s not like expats are just sitting there and just enjoying their lives. And showing concern for your country no matter where you stay talks volume of the love for homeland. And with new PM overseas will be more involved in sha Allah.

 

[Itachi]

Poor post. Living abroad doesn’t make you less pakistani. And do you even know how people back home are supported by their overseas relatives? It’s not like expats are just sitting there and just enjoying their lives. And showing concern for your country no matter where you stay talks volume of the love for homeland. And with new PM overseas will be more involved in sha Allah.

I didn't mention anyone less Pakistani if they live abroad.

But when you talk about principles, then the ones who is living there, facing every corruption, mishaps, uncertainties in every day to day life and even then surviving has a lot more respect and right to say what Pakistan wants than the ones who just went abroad for better life and sending a share of it as a responsibility.

Where was the principle when chosed a different country for money or other reasons? Where was the patriotism where you didnt chose to be in the system in order to reform it rather than taking the easy way out and going to a different country to get some fat pay cheques?

Talking about morality, and principles from these same people is just double standard where that person will be the first person to take the first flight away and then expect the mother country and its people to show patriotism.

I am sorry, be it Indians or Pakistani or any other nationality. This doesn't change the hypocrisy here.

 

[Major]

And so it begins. Getting WhatsApp forwarded texts on the products/services that we should boycott because they are Dutch.

Here is the list if anyone’s interested. If you don’t stop using these products, you will rot in Hell. The Dutch are already shivering in fear.

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And what are Pakistan's substitute?

Gaeen soap?

 

[Major]

Yes these things rightfully upset Muslim people. I am glad that Pakistan has taken a stand on the issue by protesting in a mature manner. Just don't lose your head and start burning your own country.

countries carrying out blasphemy is nothing new.

It looks like for a lot of posters on this thread, this is happening for the first time and are getting crazy and want Pakistan to take up this issue.

Living in Pakistan, i have seen this issues. And you know what happens at the end? People start destroying their own infrastructure, while the countries caring out these cartoon competitions just quietly enjoy their lives.

I think it was back in 2005 when blasphemy was committed where a carton was made. You know what happened after that? Mullahs and the defenders of Islam came out on the street and destroyed infrastructure. Any company they thought was from that particular country they tried to destroy it.

I remember the local KFC in Saddar Pindi had to get steel shutters for each window they had.

Any sane Pakistani who has learned a thing or two about supply chain management, would realize that pinpointing a brand to one particular country is a very complicated task.

Point is, at the end of the day, the mullahs will destroy their own country. Nothing is going to come.

Just like how we ignore china killing Muslims, such matters are best ignored aswell.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It seems like the Pakistanis who lives in a foreign land for a better life (more money) is lecturing about principles and how Pakistan should show responsibility towards it where as Pakistanis living in Pakistan wants to just mind own business.

Not sure which side is right.

Are you saying that Pakistan has lodged an official complaint to Holland on behalf of Pakistanis living outside of Pakistan rather than their own population? Based on what?

 

[Madplayer]

Well done to Pakistan for raising thid issue.

If USA can start an economic war with Turkey over the arrest of a US pastor over charges of terrorism, this is the least muslims cam do to raise concerns about things which they hold dear. Nothing wrong at all in conveying the concerns. Any snowflake muslim who feels that raising concern is wrong should look at himself in the mirror and see what point he has reached in terms of his faith.

 

[Major]

Well done to Pakistan for raising thid issue.

If USA can start an economic war with Turkey over the arrest of a US pastor over charges of terrorism, this is the least muslims cam do to raise concerns about things which they hold dear. Nothing wrong at all in conveying the concerns. Any snowflake muslim who feels that raising concern is wrong should look at himself in the mirror and see what point he has reached in terms of his faith.

i like how you could sit on the internet and call other people snow flakes.


Again, this is not first time im seeing this blasphemy content being posted. This has happened in the past, and the only thing that comes out of this is the so called defender of islam destroying public property IN PAKISTAN!

Pakistani doesn't have the force to deal with public riots. These things end up giving more media attention to the event that dosen't deserve any attention at all.

 

[Itachi]

Are you saying that Pakistan has lodged an official complaint to Holland on behalf of Pakistanis living outside of Pakistan rather than their own population? Based on what?

Where in my post I have mentioned lodging about any complaints?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Where in my post I have mentioned lodging about any complaints?

That is what the thread is about, you may re-read it to refresh your memory then come back to answer my query. Please re-read your own assertion as well if you are still confused what I am querying.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Muslims are as sensitive as babies.

They cry if touched, poked or merely glanced at.

Meh.

My faith has not suffered by those cartoons and I dont see why thousands are suffering.

 

[Madplayer]

i like how you could sit on the internet and call other people snow flakes.


Again, this is not first time im seeing this blasphemy content being posted. This has happened in the past, and the only thing that comes out of this is the so called defender of islam destroying public property IN PAKISTAN!

Pakistani doesn't have the force to deal with public riots. These things end up giving more media attention to the event that dosen't deserve any attention at all.

Nations can lodge formal complaints when they feel its necessary. Its a complaint, not a call for war. If common people react in an immature manner does that mean nations stop taking the right stands? Teach the people how to behave, dont change your values to suit bad behaviour.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Nations can lodge formal complaints when they feel its necessary. Its a complaint, not a call for war. If common people react in an immature manner does that mean nations stop taking the right stands? Teach the people how to behave, dont change your values to suit bad behaviour.

Liberals don't get this simple point that faith is non negotiable and others must respect our faith. When India becomes Hindustan, we would be lodging protest against nations where beef is not banned.

 

[Madplayer]

Liberals don't get this simple point that faith is non negotiable and others must respect our faith. When India becomes Hindustan, we would be lodging protest against nations where beef is not banned.

If thats what India feels is important then by all means do it. But the two issues are apples and oranges. The drawing event is absolutely 100% preventable and unnecessary, not part of the local customs or culture, just a random attempt to showcase "freedom" at the cost of a community.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

If thats what India feels is important then by all means do it. But the two issues are apples and oranges. The drawing event is absolutely 100% preventable and unnecessary, not part of the local customs or culture, just a random attempt to showcase "freedom" at the cost of a community.

The community needs to ignore such things and evolve in a better way.

If cartoons can incite a community and hurt them, then such a community doesn't deserve to exist in the first place.

 

[Madplayer]

The community needs to ignore such things and evolve in a better way.

If cartoons can incite a community and hurt them, then such a community doesn't deserve to exist in the first place.

You dont feel hurt when someone abuses your faith? Its only human to feel hurt. If you dont feel any emotion at all, you are either lying or you dont believe strongly in your faith. There is no middle point here as far as i am concerned. Having said that, how you deal with such emotions which arise within you is what makes you civilized or uncivilized.

In my opinion, it is necessary to lodge a complain if you feel that actions perpetrated by politicians (not just common people) in another nation are highly disrespectful and intellectually abusive towards something that your nation holds dear. Yes, by all means keep it as formal and quiet as possible. Thats fine with me.

Ideally, the "ignore it" direction should be followed by the individual citizens because their representatives have already raised the issue with appropriate people. In this particular case, the common muslim cannot do anything to the event organisers which would be worse than what they have done to themselves by putting themselves against God as per our beliefs. But to fear that the news would get media attention and would cause people to get emotional should not prevent a nation from standing up for something that is dear to it. Balance is the key to everything in life, this being no different. We dont live in Utopia, but we have to keep trying to move towards it.

 

[CricketCartoons]

If thats what India feels is important then by all means do it. But the two issues are apples and oranges. The drawing event is absolutely 100% preventable and unnecessary, not part of the local customs or culture, just a random attempt to showcase "freedom" at the cost of a community.

100% preventable or not, both hurt our sentiments. It is our basic right that others who don't follow our faith at least respect our faith and don't hurt our sentiments.

 

[Major]

some people here need to tune into american cable shows. Blasphemy is committed against every religion. I dont support this, and often religious people have ignored this, because they have realized that breaking your own infrastructure, causing chaos in your own country helps no one.

Shows like Family guy or The simpsons often make jokes agaisnt hinduism and their gods.

 

[ManFan]

some people here need to tune into american cable shows. Blasphemy is committed against every religion. I dont support this, and often religious people have ignored this, because they have realized that breaking your own infrastructure, causing chaos in your own country helps no one.

Shows like Family guy or The simpsons often make jokes agaisnt hinduism and their gods.

It falls under the First Ammendment rights of “freedom of speech”.

The sentiment amongst the normal everyday Americans is that no idea (religious or not) should be above scrutiny or comedy.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

some people here need to tune into american cable shows. Blasphemy is committed against every religion. I dont support this, and often religious people have ignored this, because they have realized that breaking your own infrastructure, causing chaos in your own country helps no one.

Shows like Family guy or The simpsons often make jokes agaisnt hinduism and their gods.

Americans are about 100 years ahead of the subcontinent when it comes to blasphemy. A century or two ago, they would probably have reacted far more strongly than the Pakistan govt, they might even have sent armies to fight a crusade against heathens who blasphemed against Christ the Saviour.

Please show some patience with the third world, they need time to evolve as well, they have gone from seeing religion as their guiding light to seeing their prophets reviled and ridiculed. We in the west have grown up with it so it is no big deal. But for third world countries it is probably like switching on tv expecting to see the Brady Bunch and being hit by The Chainsaw Massacre.

 

[Madplayer]

Americans are about 100 years ahead of the subcontinent when it comes to blasphemy. A century or two ago, they would probably have reacted far more strongly than the Pakistan govt, they might even have sent armies to fight a crusade against heathens who blasphemed against Christ the Saviour.

Is this why the 70 million Evangelical Christians of USA support and aid Israel's genocide of Palestinians through moral, political and financial support? George bush claimed that he was doing God's work in Afghanistan and Iraq by bombing villages.

 

[Abdullah719]

TLP to march towards Islamabad against blasphemous cartoon competition in Netherlands

Tehreek-i-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) has announced that it will begin a "decisive march" from Lahore to Islamabad on Wednesday, and will "stay on the streets until either the publication of blasphemous cartoons in the Netherlands end or the govt immediately ends diplomatic ties with the Dutch".

Incensed by an announcement by Dutch parliamentarian Geert Wilders to hold a competition of blasphemous caricatures, the TLP held a meeting in Lahore on Sunday and came up with its line of action and demands.

The religiopolitical party urged the PTI government to not only "discontinue diplomatic and commercial relations with the Netherlands" but also "demand from other Islamic countries to do the same".

The TLP also demands that since the said competition's judge is an American national, "therefore, strict measures should also be taken against the US."

Furthermore, the party said that "it will take the streets at 2pm on Wednesday (August 29) and begin from Data Darbar Lahore its march towards the capital."

https://www.dawn.com/news/1429078/t...lasphemous-cartoon-competition-in-netherlands

 

[Varun]

Is this why the 70 million Evangelical Christians of USA support and aid Israel's genocide of Palestinians through moral, political and financial support? George bush claimed that he was doing God's work in Afghanistan and Iraq by bombing villages.

Just said it to cover the 3% of Americans who are religious and believe in that stuff.

 

[enkidu_]

In the first 5 minutes of his speech in the Senate, the PM says that will collaborate with the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) and ask them to collectively make the sanctity of the prophet (s) as valuable as the Holocaust in Europe, where in many countries it's illegal to even question the numbers, let alone deny it altogether :

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[Bewal Express]

In the first 5 minutes of his speech in the Senate, the PM says that will collaborate with the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) and ask them to collectively make the sanctity of the prophet (s) as valuable as the Holocaust in Europe, where in many countries it's illegal to even question the numbers, let alone deny it altogether :

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IK was very good in his explanation today, his point was that the Islamophobes create and use these dramas to further their political agendas. If we the muslims played their game and decided to impose sanctions on the EU then it would make them think twice. But sadly OIC is as about much use a trophy cabinet at St Andrews.

 

[AZulfi]

There are certain diplomatic norms that one has to follow as part of the larger world community. This particular act by Dutch politician Geert Wilder (and not the first time one may add) is highly condemnable. However he is neither in government nor is this the official position of Holland. Yes condemn this thing at every international forum but even talk of expelling the Dutch ambassador to Islamabad by some people seems like an overreaction to me. The fact is if muslims were truly united and spoke with one voice (cf. Jews and the holocaust. There is western consensus on it), such mishaps could have been avoided in the first place. We need to introspect ourselves.

 

[AZulfi]

Above said very good speech by IK. We need to tackle this with maturity rather than pure emotion

 

[Varun]

Above said very good speech by IK. We need to tackle this with maturity rather than pure emotion

Just saying....has this made the news or popular discourse in any other Muslim nation? Leave alone the parliament.

 

[AZulfi]

To add....there is western consensus on the issue of holocaust. The fact that Muslims around the world have so far failed to achieve similar internationally in relation to protecting the honour of the Holy Prophet pbuh is our own collective failure.

 

[AZulfi]

Just saying....has this made the news or popular discourse in any other Muslim nation? Leave alone the parliament.

Will you be saying the same if someone wilfully abused Ram or one of your religious figures?

Please talk sense.

Why are Jews so touchy about holocaust and other issues? Just recently alleged antisemitism within labour party was openly debated in the British parliament and newspapers and Labour leader Corbyn had to answer for it. Even forget that. The Queen is not even a religious figure. Can you openly abuse her in England and get away with it.

Freedom of speech and expression carries responsibility

 

[Varun]

Will you be saying the same if someone wilfully abused Ram or one of your religious figures?

Please talk sense.

Why are Jews so touchy about holocaust and other issues? Just recently alleged antisemitism within labour party was openly debated in the British parliament and newspapers and Labour leader Corbyn had to answer for it. Even forget that. The Queen is not even a religious figure. Can you openly abuse her in England and get away with it.

Freedom of speech and expression carries responsibility

Talk about touchy lol, it was a simple question to which I was expecting either one of:

1) Yes - it has also become a story in X and Y. Here are the links.
2) Nope - Pakistan only so far.

And I get this instead. With a wistful parallel to Jews to boot.

 

[AZulfi]

Talk about touchy lol, it was a simple question to which I was expecting either one of:

1) Yes - it has also become a story in X and Y. Here are the links.
2) Nope - Pakistan only so far.

And I get this instead. With a wistful parallel to Jews to boot.

The answer to that is contained in IK's speech. He talked about a collective response and raising the issue first in OIC and then at international forums which I believe is the right thing to do..

 

[KingKhanWC]

In the first 5 minutes of his speech in the Senate, the PM says that will collaborate with the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) and ask them to collectively make the sanctity of the prophet (s) as valuable as the Holocaust in Europe, where in many countries it's illegal to even question the numbers, let alone deny it altogether :

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Very good points made by the Prime Minister.

The Dutch or other western nations can easily stop this sort behaviour as they have laws which are against inciting hatred. This is exactly what Wilders is doing. If this fascist had any brains , he would openly debate his issues regarding the Prophet(pbuh) or Islam with a Muslim but he wont because even he knows he will be proven wrong. The final Messenager of God was a mercy to mankind and his words and actions documented prove this without any doubt whatsoever.

 

[Abdullah719]

Pakistan’s disgraced cricketer offers Rs3m reward for killing Dutchmen behind blasphemous cartoon contest

LAHORE – Khalid Latif, who was handed five-year ban for his role in the spot-fixing scandal that engulfed the Pakistan Super League (PSL) 2017, has announced a reward to anyone who will kill the Dutchmen behind a blasphemous cartoon competition that depicts Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be upon Him).

In a video shared on Facebook, the 32-year-old batsman announced to put a Rs3 million bounty on the head of firebrand Dutch politician Geert Wilders and American cartoonist Bosch Fawstin while expressing his pain and anguish over the sacrilegious artwork in the Netherlands.

https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/pak...men-behind-blasphemous-cartoon-contest-video/

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[James]

The Dutch are all bark and no bite. Last time they were in an actual scrap - invaded by Germany in 1940 - they surrendered after a whole four days. That’s even more pathetic than the French. (Incidentally both countries have significant fascist minorities - Wilders got 13% of the vote last time and Le Pen got 34%.)

 

[AMSS]

Will you be saying the same if someone wilfully abused Ram or one of your religious figures?

Please talk sense.

Why are Jews so touchy about holocaust and other issues? Just recently alleged antisemitism within labour party was openly debated in the British parliament and newspapers and Labour leader Corbyn had to answer for it. Even forget that. The Queen is not even a religious figure. Can you openly abuse her in England and get away with it.

Freedom of speech and expression carries responsibility

Ram is abused everyday in India - on mainstream media. He's been called misogynist among other epithets. So you need to come up with a better analogy.

 

[Mueez]

A Pakistani guy has been arrested in Holland. He wanted to murder Geert Wilders.

 

[Asim_khan]

A Pakistani guy has been arrested in Holland. He wanted to murder Geert Wilders.

Khalid Latif can rest easy, his money is safe for now