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Peace and blessings of Allah be Upon our master, our guide, our beloved Prophet Muhammad and upon his family and companions.
 
Free Hit said:
Peace and blessings of Allah be Upon our master, our guide, our beloved Prophet Muhammad and upon his family and companions.
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Ameen.

Eid e Milad mubarak to all muslims. May Allah have mercy on us.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Everyone is out to outdo one another with their "love" for the prophet.
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This. Those who celebrate this event think that those who don’t celebrate milaad do not love the Prophet (ﷺ) enough.
 
When we were young, for me that is a little bit longer than for most if you, there were _only_ two Eids. It just going the way of Christianity, the lights in window, just waiting for the Eid tree and turkey.
 
Devilsadvokat said:
When we were young, for me that is a little bit longer than for most if you, there were _only_ two Eids. It just going the way of Christianity, the lights in window, just waiting for the Eid tree and turkey.
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There still are only two eids.

Gullible and ill informed have turned this into something it was never meant to.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
There still are only two eids.

Gullible and ill informed have turned this into something it was never meant to.
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If people want to celebrate the Prophet's Birthday then where is the harm in that?

As usual, people will be up in arms about issues like this but will be completely silent when it comes to real issues in our society like our treatment of ethnic and religious minorities.
 
This is Eid of all Eids.

Prophet has also stated the day of Friday to be an Eid too

It boggles my mind when some say how can you call this day an Eid. The way it’s celebrated can be argued upon but if everything done in accordance with Shariat then one shouldn’t question it.

And if you going to say that Prophet and Sahaba didn’t. Well prophet did fast every Monday because he was born on this day?

To know legitimacy of something new in Islam isn’t based on the time rather it’s appearance. If it has any kind of roots from the life of prophet then it’s a good act, and one would hope to be rewarded for it.

So if one fasts on this day or performs any other good act on the day of Milad. I personally don’t see an issue. Especially when we know how merciful Allah is.

Rest Wallahu Aalam
 
in_cutter said:
This. Those who celebrate this event think that those who don’t celebrate milaad do not love the Prophet (ﷺ) enough.
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Brother, that’s your assumption. It’s always those who celebrate that are challenged first and are called bidati, gumrah and even mushrik.

If you are happy on the birth of prophet then that is your Milad and I’m certain every Muslim is.
 
Loralai said:
If people want to celebrate the Prophet's Birthday then where is the harm in that?

As usual, people will be up in arms about issues like this but will be completely silent when it comes to real issues in our society like our treatment of ethnic and religious minorities.
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Why don't we pray 10 times a day.... make up some name and call it salat x y z. What's the harm, if people want to pray 5 extra times...

Secondly, must of people who celebrate things are arch hypocrites, if they love the prophet so much then they ought to live by his example......
 
Those that celebrate the birth of the holy prophet (Mawlid) I understand. Those that choose not to celebrate the Mawlid, for whatever reason that may be, I can also understand. However, those that go out of their way at this time of year, to oppose the celebration of the Mawlid, should pause and reflect on exactly what they are opposing, and the gravity of holding such thoughts.
 
cricketmerijaan said:
Those that celebrate the birth of the holy prophet (Mawlid) I understand. Those that choose not to celebrate the Mawlid, for whatever reason that may be, I can also understand. However, those that go out of their way at this time of year, to oppose the celebration of the Mawlid, should pause and reflect on exactly what they are opposing, and the gravity of holding such thoughts.
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"Gravity of holding such thoughts"...

What you really mean is that those people are Gustakh e rasool (insulting the prophet) and we know what that implies and consequences.
 
cricketmerijaan said:
Those that celebrate the birth of the holy prophet (Mawlid) I understand. Those that choose not to celebrate the Mawlid, for whatever reason that may be, I can also understand. However, those that go out of their way at this time of year, to oppose the celebration of the Mawlid, should pause and reflect on exactly what they are opposing, and the gravity of holding such thoughts.
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That's because to them those celebrating are bordering on shirk and deffo bidah. And you know shirk is the worsest of worse sins, unforgiven. The opponents of milad look at you, as some of you would look at Ahmedis.
 
Devilsadvokat said:
That's because to them those celebrating are bordering on shirk and deffo bidah. And you know shirk is the worsest of worse sins, unforgiven. The opponents of milad look at you, as some of you would look at Ahmedis.
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Opponents of Milad are Wahabis who have their own personal interpretations which Ahlus sunnah disagrees with. Their baseline is extremism anyway.

Shirk? Dont blow it out of proportion. Biddah? If we debate it to death, it would at the most come out as biddah al hasana which isnt wrong.
 
Devilsadvokat said:
That's because to them those celebrating are bordering on shirk and deffo bidah. And you know shirk is the worsest of worse sins, unforgiven. The opponents of milad look at you, as some of you would look at Ahmedis.
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It can be Innovation , but Not shirk. There is no comparison with " Ahmedis " here.
 
Madplayer said:
Opponents of Milad are Wahabis who have their own personal interpretations which Ahlus sunnah disagrees with. Their baseline is extremism anyway.

Shirk? Dont blow it out of proportion. Biddah? If we debate it to death, it would at the most come out as biddah al hasana which isnt wrong.
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Innovation is innovation , there is nothing called Bidah E Hassanah.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
There still are only two eids.

Gullible and ill informed have turned this into something it was never meant to.
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Eid just means a celebration of an occasion. Even normal birthdays are called Eid Milaad (celebration of birthday) so the only two Eid thing is wrong. However the SC crowd do tend to over exaggerate the occasion. The Pakistani side of my family go over the top, having a Khatam Quran and what not while the Arab side basically tend to exchange a couple of greetings and mostly ignore it.
 
Madplayer said:
Opponents of Milad are Wahabis who have their own personal interpretations which Ahlus sunnah disagrees with. Their baseline is extremism anyway.

Shirk? Dont blow it out of proportion. Biddah? If we debate it to death, it would at the most come out as biddah al hasana which isnt wrong.
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“kullu bid'atin dalala wa kullu dalalatin fin-naar “ "Every innovation is a misguidance and every misguidance leads to the hellfire" Al-Hadith (Bukhari: 3197, Muslim: 4822, Ahmad: 11372, Tirmidhi: 2565, Hakim Mustadrak, 1:218)

By that definition there can't be a good bid'ah. It's just the desi Muslims who love to go over the top and prove how better a Muslim they are than the rest by innovating things.
 
DeadBall said:
It's just the desi Muslims who love to go over the top and prove how better a Muslim they are than the rest by innovating things.
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Is it just the desis as opposed to other non Arab Muslims? I ask without knowing the answer. I thought because they are not Arabs, they celebrated just that bit more.

Desi Islam does have its Sufism, rituals, cause for food, music, chanting and preponderance of pir culture. Is this because once we were all Hindu etc?
 
Devilsadvokat said:
Is it just the desis as opposed to other non Arab Muslims? I ask without knowing the answer. I thought because they are not Arabs, they celebrated just that bit more.

Desi Islam does have its Sufism, rituals, cause for food, music, chanting and preponderance of pir culture. Is this because once we were all Hindu etc?
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There is only one Islam brother . Whether it is in Arab or sub continent.
Islam recognizes only the acts done by Muhammad SAW as proof in Islam . The Quran has given gaurantee of Muhammad SAW , not others.

Islam is based on Quran and authentic hadeeth. Any thing done other than that is innovation and not proper. There is nothing called sufism in Islam .
 
Happy mawlid to all.

DeadBall said:
“kullu bid'atin dalala wa kullu dalalatin fin-naar “ "Every innovation is a misguidance and every misguidance leads to the hellfire" Al-Hadith (Bukhari: 3197, Muslim: 4822, Ahmad: 11372, Tirmidhi: 2565, Hakim Mustadrak, 1:218)

By that definition there can't be a good bid'ah. It's just the desi Muslims who love to go over the top and prove how better a Muslim they are than the rest by innovating things.
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Scholars from the Arab world like Ibn Kathir or As Suyuti penned booklets (generally long fatwas) legitimizing Mawlid, whereas the 14th century explorer Ibn Battuta while travelling in the Arab wold found in the Arab city of Mecca Arab peoples/Arab officials celebrating Mawlid. He also described mawlid celebrations elsewhere, including Arabs not affected by PTV propaganda as of yet. So it has nothing to do with "desi" "innovating". In fact the idea of bid'a hassana (good innovation) exists, there's a whole literature on it by representatives of classical, traditional, historical and normative Islam (so I'm not talking about neo Salafis/Wahabbis). Morocco's Shaykh al Ghumari, who was called the Al Bukhari of the 20th century, has written a whole book on the sole idea of bid'a and its divisions, explicitly giving rationale for the idea of bid'a hassana.

PS : "Desi" is a meme.

Devilsadvokat said:
Is it just the desis as opposed to other non Arab Muslims? I ask without knowing the answer. I thought because they are not Arabs, they celebrated just that bit more.

Desi Islam does have its Sufism, rituals, cause for food, music, chanting and preponderance of pir culture. Is this because once we were all Hindu etc?
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The idea of Sufism being demoted "Hinduism" (itself an ambiguous term) has been downgraded since decades, with the works of Nicholson in the UK and Louis Massignon in France notably, not even talking of Islamic scholars themselves (an Israeli critic of Islam, Ephraim Herrera, has a whole book on how Sufis have been traditionally the most "orthodox" Sunnis), and there's no traceable existence of Hinduism in countries like Turkey or Morocco, which have a more vibrant Sufi culture than Pakistan or the majority of India for that matter.

Also in the region it differs within the group : Chichtiyas have been pro qawwali while Naqshbandis have been staunchly skeptical of it, and so on.
 
Happy Mawlid to those celebrating.

I dont understand athiests jumping up and down every time some religous celebration is on-going, must lead sad lives. Also Muslims who dont believe in it will give greetings to Christians , Hindus on their religous festivals but wont to fellow Muslims who are only remembering and trying to follow the example sent to man.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Happy Mawlid to those celebrating.

I dont understand athiests jumping up and down every time some religous celebration is on-going, must lead sad lives. Also Muslims who dont believe in it will give greetings to Christians , Hindus on their religous festivals but wont to fellow Muslims who are only remembering and trying to follow the example sent to man.
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Exactly, well said; they cause division an violence for the sake of it but mainly due to poison in their minds
 
It's the brelvi's who make me laugh the most ( wahabbis have zero humour), if someone asks me why, I will tell.

Brelvi's only get violent when The Prophet is involved, Wahabi s lose it over anything.

Brelvi's tend to be morw gregarious than Wahabis (uk), throw more occassions when food is partaken.

You need more disposable income if you are Brelvi, wahabbis generally are tighter with money

Beware. This is mostly all generalisations.

Like I said brelvi's make me laugh more, but rather have one for a neighbour than a Wahabi, if that was the choice.
 
enkidu_ said:
Happy mawlid to all.



Scholars from the Arab world like Ibn Kathir or As Suyuti penned booklets (generally long fatwas) legitimizing Mawlid, whereas the 14th century explorer Ibn Battuta while travelling in the Arab wold found in the Arab city of Mecca Arab peoples/Arab officials celebrating Mawlid. He also described mawlid celebrations elsewhere, including Arabs not affected by PTV propaganda as of yet. So it has nothing to do with "desi" "innovating". In fact the idea of bid'a hassana (good innovation) exists, there's a whole literature on it by representatives of classical, traditional, historical and normative Islam (so I'm not talking about neo Salafis/Wahabbis). Morocco's Shaykh al Ghumari, who was called the Al Bukhari of the 20th century, has written a whole book on the sole idea of bid'a and its divisions, explicitly giving rationale for the idea of bid'a hassana.
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He may write 10000 pages on Milad , but point is that proof has he given from Quran and Hadeeth ? If he has given then good , if not then those pages should be thrown away.
 
Have folks seen videos of up tempo beat music, or Xmas trees in the corner of mosques? Would you say it was bidah?
 
I celebrate Milad and dont see a problem but i have seen the naat guys use it as a means to make cash. I would urge those that follow Milad to donate to charity in the name of beloved Prophet and not to give to these guys.
 
Bewal Express said:
I celebrate Milad and dont see a problem but i have seen the naat guys use it as a means to make cash. I would urge those that follow Milad to donate to charity in the name of beloved Prophet and not to give to these guys.
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Eid Milad cakes, Eid Milad turkey, Eid Milad trees, Eid Milad cards, pure commercialisation and bidah would you not say. Slippery slope and all that? Ten years from now kids will be getting presents.

Every year we will be saying Eid Milad comes earlier and earlier ( it does tho in Eid Milads case).
 
Devilsadvokat said:
Eid Milad cakes, Eid Milad turkey, Eid Milad trees, Eid Milad cards, pure commercialisation and bidah would you not say. Slippery slope and all that? Ten years from now kids will be getting presents.

Every year we will be saying Eid Milad comes earlier and earlier ( it does tho in Eid Milads case).
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I take your point about the commercialisation but at its core its a mean of propagating our beloved Prophets message, and no way is that a bad thing. I donate a small amount to langar and more recently make a separate donation to charity.
 
Bewal Express said:
I take your point about the commercialisation but at its core its a mean of propagating our beloved Prophets message, and no way is that a bad thing. I donate a small amount to langar and more recently make a separate donation to charity.
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Don't say I didn't warn you.
 
Islam must be worth billions as a business enterprise, this adds more revenue streams. Trees and cakes and turkey must be a peculiarly British thing, don't think this rawaj will catch on in sub-continent.
 
Madplayer said:
Is using Pakpassion to propagate Islam a biddah?
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All this proves is that the people at the time thought that the Day of Judgement would be in their life time.

Still waiting after 1400 years.

Every generation says "oh Day of Judgement is close because of the 'signs', etc".
 
It’s very immature of those who will post odd videos of people going over the top with celebrations to defame those who celebrate milad.

Here where I live in UK celebrating MILAD has become a wider community thing. Where we will have a walk (in picture below), many events where the youth is at its best attendance and good messages are passed out to all attendees. community cohesion is at its peak during this period.

Nothing UnIslamic in what we do. And God is so merciful I’m certain I won’t be going to hell for atleast celebrating the birthday of its Beloved (Peace and blessings of Allah be upon Him and His Family)0728ABFC-F221-42D7-95F5-2BACA5B34A5C.jpg
 
Devilsadvokat said:
All this proves is that the people at the time thought that the Day of Judgement would be in their life time.

Still waiting after 1400 years.

Every generation says "oh Day of Judgement is close because of the 'signs', etc".
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Whether it comes soon or in billion years time is irrelevant to you, because you start to face yours when you die.
 
Devilsadvokat said:
Even if I have been a goody goody according to Allah?
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Whether you think you are good or bad is irrelevant- the tribesman that killed the American were doing the right thing as far as their thinking goes- according to your way of thinking, no crime was committed. May Allah forgive your sins as well as mine.
 
Bewal Express said:
Whether you think you are good or bad is irrelevant- the tribesman that killed the American were doing the right thing as far as their thinking goes- according to your way of thinking, no crime was committed. May Allah forgive your sins as well as mine.
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If you read again, I didn't say whether I thought I was good or bad but if Allah thinks I am bad or good?
 
Both if you not answering my question. If one is goody goody Islam-wise, what's happening to their soul, where is there soul whilst they wait for Day of Judgment?
 
Eid Milaadun-Nabi (saw) to all muslims.

People use alarm clocks to get up for Fajr, they have AC’s and thick soft carpets in Mosques to feel comfortable while praying, but when they say others show happiness for the birth of Allah’s best creation they start screaming bida’a boda’a! I mean just think logically, if you do an act which is not forbidden by Sharia, what is the problem?

Just show me references from Quran and Hadeeth about the unlawfulness of reciting nasheeds in gatherings, walking in the streets doing Dhikr etc. If you see an act you find suspicious the burden is on your shoulders to prove the impermissibility of that act. One of the basic Asools in Islam. To chant out Innovation innovation is not enough.

And Lol at people calling this a «desi» thing to celebrate Mawlid. Go and do some research on this and you will be surprised.
 
IAJ said:
Eid Milaadun-Nabi (saw) to all muslims.

People use alarm clocks to get up for Fajr, they have AC’s and thick soft carpets in Mosques to feel comfortable while praying, but when they say others show happiness for the birth of Allah’s best creation they start screaming bida’a boda’a! I mean just think logically, if you do an act which is not forbidden by Sharia, what is the problem?

Just show me references from Quran and Hadeeth about the unlawfulness of reciting nasheeds in gatherings, walking in the streets doing Dhikr etc. If you see an act you find suspicious the burden is on your shoulders to prove the impermissibility of that act. One of the basic Asools in Islam. To chant out Innovation innovation is not enough.

And Lol at people calling this a «desi» thing to celebrate Mawlid. Go and do some research on this and you will be surprised.
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Eid Milad turkey?
 
Devilsadvokat said:
Both if you not answering my question. If one is goody goody Islam-wise, what's happening to their soul, where is there soul whilst they wait for Day of Judgment?
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Its called Alaam E baarzaak , the place where souls are waiting for judgement. All souls , whether Muslims or disbelievers or pretending Muslims etc.
 
IAJ said:
Eid Milaadun-Nabi (saw) to all muslims.

People use alarm clocks to get up for Fajr, they have AC’s and thick soft carpets in Mosques to feel comfortable while praying, but when they say others show happiness for the birth of Allah’s best creation they start screaming bida’a boda’a! I mean just think logically, if you do an act which is not forbidden by Sharia, what is the problem?

Just show me references from Quran and Hadeeth about the unlawfulness of reciting nasheeds in gatherings, walking in the streets doing Dhikr etc. If you see an act you find suspicious the burden is on your shoulders to prove the impermissibility of that act. One of the basic Asools in Islam. To chant out Innovation innovation is not enough.

And Lol at people calling this a «desi» thing to celebrate Mawlid. Go and do some research on this and you will be surprised.
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Brother , you do not have understanding of the term " Bidah ". " Bidah " basically means to introduce into Deen something new , which changes that thing from its original form , and was not done during the time of Muhammad SAW or his companions.

Using Alarm Clocks or putting carpets in Masjids do not change anything in Deen from its original form. No one is saying that by using carpets for salah you will get more salah, we are praying the salah same way with or without carpets.

Now your second question is " what is the problem of doing something that is not prohibited by shariah "

Innovating is prohibited by shariah.
 
Guys, I think this thread is only for the celebrations.

I'm pretty sure no one is seeking any approvals/proofs for the legitimacy of this celebration.

If you're celebrating, Eid Mubarak.

If you aren't, you're welcome to move on to any other thread instead of spoiling the mood. Whether this celebration is legitimate or not, I'm pretty sure that hurting a fellow Muslim's sentiment is definitely a sin.
 
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