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South Africa returned from the 2019 World Cup with few good memories, but beating Australia in their last league match at Old Trafford was among them. Any win over the Aussies is excessively celebrated on the sharp tip of Africa, even if it is only the third in eight completed games at a global tournament.

The 325/6 South Africa totalled in that match is the third-highest in the 56 ODIs played at the ground, and higher than in any of the eight list A games played there since. All of which is good news for the visitors, not least because their squad for Friday's second ODI against England in Manchester features six members of the XI from the Australia match. They include Rassie van der Dussen, who made 95 in the 2019 clash and 134 in the first match of the current series at the Riverside on Tuesday to do his bit, and more, to help the visitors win by 62 runs.

Unlike in Chester-le-Street, where the temperature climbed to 38 degrees Celsius and forced Matthew Potts off the field and into the shade for much of the game, Friday's forecast high for Manchester is a mere 19 degrees. But play seems set to be interrupted by predictions for light, persistent rain.

England might be keen to take whatever change they can get, even if it means being able to put their feet up and watch the drizzle while they think about ODI life after Ben Stokes, who retired from the format in Tuesday's match. They have played seven white-ball games inside the first three weeks of July and lost five of them, and in Durham they looked out of energy and ideas about how to counter South Africa's steely batting and disciplined bowling.

There is no point denying that interest in the series is lower than it might have been because it does not count towards the World Cup Super League standings. But a South Africa team who have been in decent ODI form, winning five of their seven matches this year, will want to keep up the good work. Doing so will likely mean employing the same kind of methodical gameplan that earned them success in the first match.

For some, that translates into a throwback to the kind of cricket that was played in the format before the game fell in love with T20-style freneticism: staid, even boring. Anrich Nortje brought some cold, hard sense to the debate in his press conference in Manchester on Thursday: "We're not too bothered about how England go about things. It's about what happens on the day. If it's a flat pitch, playing attacking cricket as a batter is probably going to be the biggest priority. If it's a green pitch, then we'll probably try be more 'boring', I suppose, and try and hit the top of off for longer."

The truth is, global tournaments aside, the South Africans are world champions at winning - in all-time bilateral ODIs no-one besides the United States and the Asia XI, who have played just seven games between them, can touch South Africa's won/lost ratio of 1.869.

Even so, Friday's match will doubtless be written up as exciting England versus stodgy South Africa. But if what's considered boring beats the flash, dash and crash approach, whose problem is that?

When: July 22, 2022; 1pm Local Time

Where: Old Trafford, Manchester

What to expect: A cooler, wetter day than in the first match of the series. And not too many runs: 300 has been passed just twice - in the same match - in the last five list A games at this ground.

Team News

England

Wicketkeeper-batter Phil Salt is the most likely replacement for the retired Ben Stokes.

Possible XI: Jason Roy, Jonny Bairstow, Joe Root, Moeen Ali, Jos Buttler (c), Phil Salt, Liam Livingstone, Sam Curran, Brydon Carse, Adil Rashid, Reece Topley

South Africa

Andile Phehlukwayo has been ruled out for the remaining two games because of the concussion he sustained when his chin collided with Keshav Maharaj's shoulder in the field at the Riverside on Tuesday. His replacement in that match, Dwaine Pretorius, is the likely stand-in.

Possible XI: Janneman Malan, Quinton de Kock, Rassie van der Dussen, Aiden Markram, Heinrich Klaasen, David Miller, Dwaine Pretorius, Keshav Maharaj (c), Anrich Nortje, Lungi Ngidi, Tabraiz Shamsi

What they said:

"It's like that Chumbawamba song, 'You get knocked down and you get up again'. That's exactly how we've got to go about things." - Joe Root turns to pop culture to contextualise England's white-ball slump.

"I don't think we can be classified as a team who are just attacking or just defensive. We try and be smart on the day and play accordingly." - Anrich Nortje curbs his enthusiasm.
Squads:
England Squad: Jason Roy, Jonny Bairstow, Joe Root, Moeen Ali, Jos Buttler(w/c), Philip Salt, Liam Livingstone, Sam Curran, Brydon Carse, Adil Rashid, Matty Potts, Reece Topley, David Willey, Craig Overton
South Africa Squad: Janneman Malan, Quinton de Kock(w), Rassie van der Dussen, Aiden Markram, David Miller, Heinrich Klaasen, Dwaine Pretorius, Keshav Maharaj(c), Anrich Nortje, Lungi Ngidi, Tabraiz Shamsi, Reeza Hendricks, Khaya Zondo, Kyle Verreynne, Marco Jansen, Lizaad Williams

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Moeen at no.4 should be interesting. Hope he makes full use of opportunity.
Phil salt should be used as floater for this match. If wicket falls early he should be sent ahead of Joe root instead of playing him as no.6.

Glad that England is not considering livingstone as their no.4.
 
Yes, Moeen should bat at 4 for the present time being. He is a left hander and England in past one month have lost two left handed batsman in the middle.

However, for a future prospect, they should invest on Ollie Pope in ODIs at 4 as well. The only problem would be lack of left handers then in top 5 as Buttler must bat at 5. Moeen can be at 6 and play Jadeja like role while Livingstone with his power hitting ability should focus on his finishing skills as he is suited in lower order(#6 or #7).
 
Rain and chances this game won't happen but lets see

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Moeen has two problems -
1.High pace at hard length
2.Short pitched stuff by pacers

He should always be used as a floater.
Play him at different positions against different teams (having different sorts of bowlers).

He is great against spinners, I have seen him smack all sorts of spinners in IPL, against medium pacers too he is usually very aggressive.
 
I live 10 mins away from the ground and its been raining all morning. it was heavy rain before but has gone to light rain. so not looking good.
 
Yes, Moeen should bat at 4 for the present time being. He is a left hander and England in past one month have lost two left handed batsman in the middle.

However, for a future prospect, they should invest on Ollie Pope in ODIs at 4 as well. The only problem would be lack of left handers then in top 5 as Buttler must bat at 5. Moeen can be at 6 and play Jadeja like role while Livingstone with his power hitting ability should focus on his finishing skills as he is suited in lower order(#6 or #7).
Pope is behind in pecking order in white ball cricket.

Right now Harry brook and Ben Duckett has best chance to nail no.4 slot for 2023 worldcup.

Harry brook can be finisher as well if buttler wants to take no.4 slot.

Moeen is already playing jadeja role since past few years. Livingstone is emerging as a challenger for moeen in the playing 11 because both play same role in the squad.
 
Play to start at 4.45pm - The match will now be a 29-over-a-side contest with a 15-minute break between innings.
 
South Africa have won the toss and have opted to field

England (Playing XI): Jason Roy, Jonny Bairstow, Philip Salt, Joe Root, Jos Buttler(w/c), Liam Livingstone, Moeen Ali, Sam Curran, David Willey, Adil Rashid, Reece Topley

South Africa (Playing XI): Janneman Malan, Quinton de Kock(w), Rassie van der Dussen, Aiden Markram, Heinrich Klaasen, David Miller, Dwaine Pretorius, Keshav Maharaj(c), Anrich Nortje, Lungi Ngidi, Tabraiz Shamsi
 
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Salt comes in; three changes for England

As expected, Phil Salt is the man to be given the unenviable task of replacing Ben Stokes - and he will bat at number three, Jos Buttler confirms at the toss.

He is one of three changes for England, with left-armers Reece Topley and David Willey returning in place of Durham pair Brydon Carse and Matthew Potts.
 
29 overs a side - Don't see SA winning as England would prefer the reduction in overs due to their power hitters. Early wickets by SA is the key otherwise the batters will take the game away from them
 
66 / 4

10 overs

England need to change there approach in batting , going too hard up front is not right . Need to bat 50 overs
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We lose our fourth wicket.<br><br>Scorecard & Videos: <a href="https://t.co/yjb7lB8fdC">https://t.co/yjb7lB8fdC</a><br><br>&#55356;&#57332;&#56128;&#56423;&#56128;&#56418;&#56128;&#56421;&#56128;&#56430;&#56128;&#56423;&#56128;&#56447; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvSA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvSA</a> &#55356;&#56831;&#55356;&#56806; <a href="https://t.co/YkUAKxEhoO">pic.twitter.com/YkUAKxEhoO</a></p>— England Cricket (@englandcricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/englandcricket/status/1550518988295131138?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Even after losing six wickets in 20 overs England hitting the ball. They follow only one template
 
Livingstone ligthing up his home ground. 3 back to back sixes off Nortje
 
OUT

Seven down

Despite 22 from first 4 balls , Livingstone goes for a big hit and perishes.
 
livingstone is the english Afridi when it comes to batting.
 
Jos butler should resign from captaincy.
He is no way captaincy material.

England management should realise for the better of England cricket.

Jos butler should be removed from the captaincy with immediate effect.
 
LOL he had no hand in these wickets apart from that run out.
He has already made the blunder by not picking brydon carse who was very good in the previous match.

Reece topley is playin on merit.They got these wickets due to wonderful bowling by Reece topley.
It's not like Jos butler set up some great fielding or made some awesome bowling changes that they got these wickets.
 
Jos butler should resign from captaincy.
He is no way captaincy material.

England management should realise for the better of England cricket.

Jos butler should be removed from the captaincy with immediate effect.

LOL he had no hand in these wickets apart from that run out.
He has already made the blunder by not picking brydon carse who was very good in the previous match.

Reece topley is playin on merit.They got these wickets due to wonderful bowling by Reece topley.
It's not like Jos butler set up some great fielding or made some awesome bowling changes that they got these wickets.

So you bash the captain when the team does poorly, and when the team does well it’s nothing to do with him.

Can’t have it both ways bro.
 
Bit wet and drizzly.

Umpires trying to keep the game going
 
SA are 76/8 from 17.2 overs

A minimum of 20 completed overs are needed to constitute a game
 
Abysmal and dopey cricket from South Africa.

Looked like a team who didn't fancy being out there in the cold damp conditions when batting.
 
David Willey and Reece Topley broke the back of South Africa's batting lineup and the visitors lost wickets in a cluster, giving a firm advantage to England.

In the end, the hosts won the second ODI by 118 runs to level the three-match series at Manchester. Earlier, Liam Livingstone and Sam Curran played knocks of 38 and 35 respectively as England set 202-run target for South Africa in the ongoing second ODI at Manchester.

Earlier, South Africa skipper Keshav Maharaj won the toss and opted to bowl against England.

Heavy rain in the build-up to the game has curtailed the contest to 29 overs per side. England take on South Africa in the second ODI of the two-match series at the Old Trafford in Manchester. After succumbing to a heavy defeat in the first ODI in Durham, England will look to bounce back and take the series to the decider in Leeds.

England, however, will be without the services of Test captain Ben Stokes, who played his last ODI game in front his home fans at the Riverside Stadium earlier this week.

Stokes announced his retirement from ODIs, citing workload management issues. South Africa, on the other hand, will look to kill off the series with a win ahead of the final game at Headingley on Sunday.

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Buttler: We know how dangerous we can be

"It is great for us to get the win. I am delighted with the way we came out with the ball. With the bat, the guys continued to play in the fashion we want to play as a team. Can we do it better? Absolutely. But that mindset and positivity got us up to a score which now looks a great score."England captain, Jos Buttler...

"I want us to continue with the path we are on and play that positive and aggressive brand of cricket. We haven't quite fired with the bat all summer in white-ball cricket but we know how dangerous we will be when we do."
 
England registered a massive 118-run victory against South Africa at Old Trafford in Manchester in a rain-shortened 29-over match to level the ODI series 1-1.


England's roaring start and South Africa's riposte

With the game reduced to 29 overs per side, England got off to a flier despite losing Jason Roy to Anrich Nortje early on. Phil Salt and Jonny Bairstow pushed the scoring rate up with the former racing to 17 off just nine balls with the help of three fours in a Lungi Ngidi over.

At 49/1 after six overs, England looked set for the launch when Dwaine Pretorius stepped into the attack and swung things South Africa's way with a slew of variations. Pretorius had the aggressive Salt trapped in front and then furthered South Africa's advantage by dismissing Joe Root and Jonny Bairstow in his next over.

At 62/4, England had lost their early momentum and Pretorius, who had played a part in every dismissal up until that stage, was on fire for the visitors. He would go on to finish with impressive figures of 4/36, his career-best in ODIs. Keshav Maharaj added to England's woes by sending back Moeen Ali soon afterward and Jos Buttler couldn't do much damage either as England ambled along at run-a-ball to 101/6.


A late flourish for England

With the shortened game posing challenges in terms of scoring rate, England needed quick runs and Liam Livingstone stepped up. He found Sam Curran for company as England picked up the scoring rate in the next few overs with Curran smashing sixes off Maharaj and Tabraiz Shamsi.

Livingstone then went on to hit Anrich Nortje for a hat-trick of sixes followed by a four but chipped the pull shot to mid-wicket to be dismissed off the next ball in the same over. Livingstone's 26-ball 38 was compounded by Curran's entertaining knock of 35 off 18 balls as he hit two fours and a six off Shamsi in the 24th over before being dismissed by the same bowler. David Willey found a few runs as did Adil Rashid, and England managed to push their total past 200.


South Africa lose four wickets for six runs

England's left-arm quicks Reece Topley and David Willey quickly put the hosts on top with Topley sending back Janneman Malan and Rassie van der Dussen in the same over. While Malan struggled with his timing from the beginning and chipped a simple catch to mid-on, van der Dussen, fresh off a hundred from the last game, was unfortunate to nick one down the leg side through to the wicket-keeper.

Things turned sour for South Africa as Quinton de Kock fell on the first ball of the next over, a leading edge off David Willey settling in the hands of the cover point fielder. What was a shocking start already spiralled down further as Aiden Markram attempted a risky single only to be run out by a brilliant pick up and throw from wicket-keeper Jos Buttler. At 6/4, South Africa were in dire straits and needed to rebuild their innings.


The resurrection never arrives

David Miller and Heinrich Klaasen tried to lift up the visitors, but the promising partnership was broken by Sam Curran. The left-arm quick bowled David Miller with a sharp cutter that seamed back in to castle the stumps. At the 10-over mark, South Africa were 39/5 and the result appeared all but given when a slight drizzle dismayed England.

It didn't last for long, though, and Klaasen and Pretorius soon tried to stitch together a partnership for South Africa. But that didn't last long either as Moeen had Klaasen stumped and Adil Rashid cleaned up Keshav Maharaj next over. Rashid went on to dismiss Dwaine Pretorius next over as South Africa were reduced to 76/8 which soon turned into 83 all out and a massive loss.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/2687107?sf168292549=1
 
Proteas all-rounder Dwaine Pretorius credited England's risk-taking, saying it was one of the differences in the wide margin of defeat they conceded in the second ODI in Manchester on Friday.

England were bowled out for 201 in 28.1 overs in a rain-shortened game, but that innings was buttressed by two important lower-order contributions from Liam Livingstone (38) and Sam Curran (35).

South Africa were bowled out for 83, their joint-lowest score against England in ODIs, with Pretorius, who took 4/36 saying England had a bit more fortune.

"We lost wickets when we tried to take the risks that ultimately didn't come off," Pretorius said.

"We lost wickets each time we tried to take a risk, whereas things went England's way each time they took a risk.

"Cricket is an interesting game in that if you don't perform, you look like you're not sure what's going on, but I'm sure we'll bounce back."

Where England were smarter was their use of the ball as the Old Trafford floodlights somehow allowed the ball to swing more when SA batted.

Reece Topley and David Willey sliced through SA's top-order, leaving them dangling precariously at 6/4, a position SA didn't recover from.

Pretorius said they did their homework against the moving ball, but the lights that were heightened by the grey skies, played a role in the exaggerated movement.

"We've done a lot of work against the swinging ball. It was also the first game we played under lights and that had an impact on the ball," Pretorius said.

"The next game will be a day game, so it will be interesting to see how that wicket plays and whether the ball will swing.

"We've prepared really well, and I believe it's just one of those days. Our batting unit is going well and I don't want this performance to go to their hands."

Pretorius said they weren't going to change how they play, even though they may need to adapt to conditions and how England plays.

"When guys come at you, there's also the opportunity to take wickets. We've done well as a bowling unit in the past two matches," Pretorius said.

"We've taken wickets and that slows teams down, but there were two big overs that changed the momentum of the game.

"That made a big difference and we couldn't match that in the game."

https://www.news24.com/sport/cricke...nds-risk-taking-after-big-odi-defeat-20220723
 
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