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England (281 & 275) defeat Pakistan (202 & 328) by 26 runs to win the 2nd Test, win series 2-0

Terrific test match and what a terrific series. Just shows why test cricket is the pinnacle.
Commiserations to Pak PP fans, What a great fight in both tests!
congrats to England - what a terrific spirit they showed.

For Pak, if you have rolled over the opposition under 300 on the first day -no matter what the conditions, opposition, pitch - you have a massive chance to get ahead, if you dont- u always will be playing catch up cricket.

For Eng, you got away with one, Baz Ball aint gonna bounce every time - but still wonderful to watch and you bring backsides on seats with your brand of play
Abrar Ahmad - terrific find and one for the future. I defo think pak has played wonderfully here, keep your heads up!

good luck for 3rd test
 
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Leach average is misleading .he was destroyed by india but get cheap tail wicket to negotiate how pathetic he is . Anderson average looks good becouse he get 1-2 wicket with low economy rate but impact is missing here ( subcontinent condition) . Now with second new Ball when England needed him most but he is clueless even against nawaz . sometimes look at the condition rather than stats which matters most .

Anderson is winning games out in the SC and has been doing so for literally decades at 4 wickets a Test in india or elsewhere. He'll have his moments in a test with the new ball or the old one reversing but is smart enough and humble enough to know how to bowl for the other guy too. He doesn't have to rip through a team every match. Anyone who knows cricket is a team game sees and appreciates what Jimmy is doing. And when it's his day, they'll do it for him.

With Leach you are just spouting rubbish. His economy in India is 3.2. That isn't a spinner getting destroyed. He took as many top order wickets as he did tails. Go through the scorecards and get back to me if you need to, I watched the series. He did his part, picked up wickets every innings and grabbed the odd bag, as you want spinners to do in India.
 
Expecting small or moderate contribution is fine but this will not happen consistently. The failure mainly lies with those players who are playing as a proper batsman and who specially failed in both innings. England offered victory in both the test matches to Pakistan but the inconsistency, bottling under pressure in 2nd innings & lack of ownership by main batsman is the main reason of this failure. If you want to chase target in 2nd innings someone has to score 100 plus and 1 or 2 70 plus score. you cannot rely on 30-40 score from lower middle order

What you’re referring to is role based expectations and responsibilities. The average Pakistan cricket fan is about 2 decades away from understanding a concept this modern.
 
There was a clear spike when the ball was right next to the bat. 100% correct decision & Pakistan deserves this humiliation.

Ramiz needs to be sacked for keeping babar and yesman/knows nothing fraud Saqlain. All the talk about foreign coaches but kept them.
 
Wood hails England win | 'I'd run through a brick wall for Stokes'

"It's massive," says England fast-bowler Mark Wood after the victory. "I'm shattered. It was hard-fought but that's when it's worth it. Two games where the lads put so much in, to get it over the line is an amazing feeling. I'm just absolutely knackered.

"Emotionally and physically shattered. I haven't bowled more than four overs in nine months! To keep charging in was a big effort but I knew we were close so that's what really spurs you on and to see the other lads digging in, you don't want to let your mates down so I put in just as much.

"Stokesy said make a difference, change the game, so that's what I tried to do. Nawaz played brilliantly I think, I don't think we bowled badly at him he just played some great shots. That partnership was key to break. After that we knew the tail from nine down we could get wickets, I didn't think the number 9 would come out blazing but it was nice to get over the line in the end.

"The way Ben leads the team is fantastic. He's very clear-cut in how he wants the team to play. I'd run through a brick wall for him so I'm really pleased I've managed to get those wickets for him.

"Pakistan have some skilful players and we respect them a lot, this wasn't a case of we've come here thinking we're the better team. We knew we had to dig in deep and honestly I'm shattered. The effort needed to beat this team in their own conditions, it's a monumental effort from everybody. To finally win here, is a fantastic result.

"Anytime you get to represent England is special. My body might let me down but I want to keep coming down and playing for England. One day my body will give up and I can't do it anymore, but at the moment I'm trying my best to charge in when my team really wants me."
 
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Ben Stokes | England captain: Obviously different conditions and differently played games but fantastic to be a part of both the games. We had a look at the wicket and it was tricky against slow bowling, but as the game progressed the cracks opened up and our seamers came into the game. The way in which Jimmy and Robbo bowled in the series and our spinners as well, they are going to deliver more often that not (referring to him not bowling). Amazing debut for Abrar and many congratulations to him. He took 7 wickets but we were still scoring runs against him. I just look around and look at my options and see who gives me the best opportunity to pick wickets.

Babar Azam | Pakistan captain: We were not up to the mark in the first innings. There were a couple of soft dismissals but were well short of the mark. We fought back with the ball and bat in the second innings but it was not enough. There were a couple of good partnerships but in the end we did not finish well as a batting unit. It was a dream start for Abrar and he used the conditions well. Looking forward to the Karachi Test and we will do our best.

Harry Brook | Player of the Match: I tried to learn from my mistake in the first innings. I wanted to put the pressure on the spinners and it worked. We knew before coming into the game that it is going to be a turner, they have been asking for it and there was a lot of talk in the dressing room as well, so wasn't surprised. We just tried to go out there and play our band of cricket, happy that it came off.
 
Leach wood have done well in these countries?? I am really not sure don’t know the stats

Wood averages 23 away, strike rate a Waqaresque 44.

Leach averages 31 in Asia, average 59, so he is doing a job. Only in Australia has he been ineffective - but that is a graveyard for finger spinners. Even Swann didn’t take wickets there, though he was economical enough.
 
Complete thickness frm agha to give the strike to zahid in the 2 overs before this to him face wood and he gets out first ball. Then again let's him face Robinson here and Ali gets out first ball

Yes that was what I predicted that boundary on last ball could be costly second time too, but he was actually just trying to score a run and it went to boundary.
 
Brook is a potential England great. He reminds me of the great Viv Richards at times.
 
Aleem did nothing wrong in live it looked out, and rightly it got reviewed. 3rd umpire fault.

Just go through the first day highlights. He made 3-4 wrong decisions in a single day. His umpiring skill is lost.
 
Anderson is winning games out in the SC and has been doing so for literally decades at 4 wickets a Test in india or elsewhere. He'll have his moments in a test with the new ball or the old one reversing but is smart enough and humble enough to know how to bowl for the other guy too. He doesn't have to rip through a team every match. Anyone who knows cricket is a team game sees and appreciates what Jimmy is doing. And when it's his day, they'll do it for him.

With Leach you are just spouting rubbish. His economy in India is 3.2. That isn't a spinner getting destroyed. He took as many top order wickets as he did tails. Go through the scorecards and get back to me if you need to, I watched the series. He did his part, picked up wickets every innings and grabbed the odd bag, as you want spinners to do in India.
As I said before Posters making stuff up just to make Pakistan side even worse that they are, English bowling was relentless and with good variety. Leach and Root bowled well enough in the conditions and against goodish player of spin.
 
What you’re referring to is role based expectations and responsibilities. The average Pakistan cricket fan is about 2 decades away from understanding a concept this modern.

Exactly, Pak fans expects major contribution from debutants or those players who have played 5-6 test matches. They expect bowling allrounder to perform with the bat on consistent basis and batting allrounder to get wickets with consistency. For example, Nawaz failed as a bowler more than as a batsman. Babar, Rizwan, Imam & Faheem are most experienced in this current team, and they failed in their main role. Team selection was extremely poor, you can't play Faheem & Ali as a frontline fast bowler. You can't give 2nd chance to somebody like Zahid in this high profile series
 
Brook is a potential England great. He reminds me of the great Viv Richards at times.

Everyone can look potential great against a depleted Pakistani attack on docile pitches. I have doubts about his game against pace and bounce.
 
Just go through the first day highlights. He made 3-4 wrong decisions in a single day. His umpiring skill is lost.

I must have missed any real bad decisions as I watched most of the match, other than posters exaggerating I saw nothing wrong. All umpires get few wrong each match btw, they arehuman beings.
 
What a humiliating defeat.. series loss that too at home.
Babar taking Pakistani cricket to new lows. That’s his benchmark.
 
The team can go to hell after dropping second series on HOME against SENA teams. They can play anybody they like; they should get booed by people at Karachi.

We didnt prepare for the series ,we thought its at home so easy peasy.

Right after t20 wc england played aussies in the odis and then they went to uae and played against england lions. They prepared themselves for the test match conditions. What were our players doing? Instragram tweets and interviews on tv , they needed to play a 3 day game at least to get into test mode.

Where is the bench strength. With shaheen gone we have noone to call.
 
Anderson is winning games out in the SC and has been doing so for literally decades at 4 wickets a Test in india or elsewhere. He'll have his moments in a test with the new ball or the old one reversing but is smart enough and humble enough to know how to bowl for the other guy too. He doesn't have to rip through a team every match. Anyone who knows cricket is a team game sees and appreciates what Jimmy is doing. And when it's his day, they'll do it for him.

With Leach you are just spouting rubbish. His economy in India is 3.2. That isn't a spinner getting destroyed. He took as many top order wickets as he did tails. Go through the scorecards and get back to me if you need to, I watched the series. He did his part, picked up wickets every innings and grabbed the odd bag, as you want spinners to do in India.

Good to see you back [MENTION=129939]wrongun[/MENTION]. I always respect your analyses.

Quite right on Anderson. If he’s not taking wickets he will block his end up for the guys at the other end.

As for Leach, not everyone is going to be Shane Warne (and even he went for a few in India). Leach is doing a decent job. Not world class, but useful.
 
Not even close,remember bowling attacks are low quality these days, the Pakistani one was poor this series.

I wish people would read my posts. I said he reminds me of Richards, not that he is another Richards. Of course there are tougher days ahead for him but he has started really well and looks assured.

SA and Australia attacks are as good as ever, and the Indian fast attack is their best ever too.
 
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England for the third test:

Creepy
Duck It
Pontiff
66
Brook
Stokes
Foakes
Robbo
Woody
Leach
Jimmy
 
Pakistan let Root and leach bowl to them freely , they should have taken them on this flat pitches forcing Stokes to bowl his pacers more
 
England have secured a historic series victory in Pakistan after Mark Wood helped the tourists to a dramatic 26-run win in the second Test in Multan.

Pakistan appeared on course to chase down their imposing target of 355 when Saud Shakeel (94) and Mohammad Nawaz (45) moved the hosts to 290-5, only for Wood to swing momentum back England's way by prising out both set batters just before lunch.

Brief cameos from Agha Salman (20 not out) and debutant Abrar Ahmed (17) kept Pakistan edging towards their victory total, but England's pace attack successfully cleaned up the tail to dismiss the hosts for 328.

Resuming on 198-4 and requiring a further 157 runs for victory, Pakistan added just 12 to their overnight total before Faheem Ashraf (10) hit a turning Root delivery straight to Zak Crawley at slip.

The dismissal saw Root become just the third player in Test history to have registered over 10,000 runs and at least 50 wickets, following on from Jacques Kallis and Steve Waugh, although England struggled initially to build on their early breakthrough.

Shakeel started the day on 54 and continued to add to his run tally, while Nawaz quickly eased his way to 45, with the pair frustrating England by offering few opportunities in an 80-run sixth-wicket partnership.

Nawaz looked destined for a maiden Test half-century until he gloved behind a short delivery and gifted Wood his second wicket, before the England paceman grabbed the key scalp of Shakeel on the stroke of lunch.

Third umpire Joel Wilson concluded that Pope managed to get his gloves under the ball to take the catch, ending a gritty innings lasting 213 deliveries and leaving Pakistan seven down at the interval and still requiring another 64 runs.

Abrar came out firing after lunch and found four boundaries from his first 10 deliveries, including three from one Wood over, only to end his cameo when he picked out Ben Duckett in the covers to give Anderson his second of the innings.

Wood bowled Zahid Mahmood for a duck to leave England on the brink of victory, with Robinson wrapping up the win and sparking wild celebrations when he had Mohammad Ali caught behind without scoring.

England's latest victory follows last week's 74-run triumph in Rawalpindi and secures only their third Test series success in Pakistan, and the win also marks the first time they've won multiple Tests in one series on Pakistan soil.

Ben Stokes joins Michael Atherton to discuss their 'special' series win over Pakistan and his role as the captain of the team.
England captain Ben Stokes: "Things happened quite quickly this week compared to last week and it was another fantastic game to be a part of, going down to the wire yet again.

"Jimmy, Robbo, and Woody put in an amazing performance for England this week and hats off to the lads. We have achieved something really special this week as the England cricket team."

England's Mark Wood says that he would run through a brick wall for Ben Stokes and hailed a fantastic series win against Pakistan.
Pakistan captain Babar Azam: "We were not up to the mark in the first innings. We had a couple of soft dismissals. We did not finish well in the first innings and it cost us.

"After that we had a fightback in the bowling and in the second innings we fought well but unfortunately we have not finished well. We're definitely looking forward to the Karachi Test match and we will do our best."

England will now be looking to claim a series sweep for the first time in Pakistan, with the third and final Test match beginning in Karachi on Saturday.

SKY
 
Need to replace Mohammad Ali with Hasan Ali and possibly cheap wickets Zahid as well.
Faheem debate will rage on...
Rest is fine.
 
Come to think of it, I would like to see young Rehan Ahmed get a run in the dead rubber at Karachi. Leach can be rested for that one.
 
4th Day highlights

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As I said before Posters making stuff up just to make Pakistan side even worse that they are, English bowling was relentless and with good variety. Leach and Root bowled well enough in the conditions and against goodish player of spin.

Yes I guess they are having a pity party or just upset at the team right now.

Pakistan aren't a great side right now. But they were probably only a Shaheen and one good batsman away from being 1:1 with England in this series. And I think England are a pretty good team currently, well led and riding high right now. High quality bowling lineup overall and the batting can be brittle but has two world class operators (Root & Stokes) and a couple more (Duckett & Pope) who have some talent.

Positives for Pakistan= found a wicket taking spin option at home.

Shakeel played an excellent knock under pressure. Can hope he kicks on.

Imam has made runs again. Fans will probably criticise him for not opening- but if the captain has plans to use left handers a certain way (which it looks like Babar did), then it's not Imam's fault. He batted where he did. He made a useful contribution. Not match defining. But better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

Rest is back to the drawing board.
 
355 was always going to be tough in 4th innings. Pakistan came close.

It was a good Test overall.
 
Now that we have finished doing our Mehman nawazi because of teams not wanting to previously come to pakistan maybe we can concentrate on winning something, anything.
 
Yes I guess they are having a pity party or just upset at the team right now.

Pakistan aren't a great side right now. But they were probably only a Shaheen and one good batsman away from being 1:1 with England in this series. And I think England are a pretty good team currently, well led and riding high right now. High quality bowling lineup overall and the batting can be brittle but has two world class operators (Root & Stokes) and a couple more (Duckett & Pope) who have some talent.

Positives for Pakistan= found a wicket taking spin option at home.

Shakeel played an excellent knock under pressure. Can hope he kicks on.

Imam has made runs again. Fans will probably criticise him for not opening- but if the captain has plans to use left handers a certain way (which it looks like Babar did), then it's not Imam's fault. He batted where he did. He made a useful contribution. Not match defining. But better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

Rest is back to the drawing board.

You forgot Brook. He can be an extraordinary player in years to come.
 
Brilliant advert for Test cricket these games are unfortunately Pak ended on losing side, hopefully Ramiz will host a dinner of shame for the squad after 3rd Test
 
355 was always going to be tough in 4th innings. Pakistan came close.

It was a good Test overall.

Pretty much my thoughts.
Such a tight game.

England deserve to be 2-0 up, they’ve been the better team, but Pakistan have played their part in this series and I would back them to win the final Test in Karachi because they are closing the gap and they were really close this time.
 
Congrats to England on a well deserved series win

Pakistan did well with the ball in both the innings and fought well with the bat in the second

One should bear in the mind that England is at full strength whereas Pak is depleted in the pace department due to injuries to key players.

Also as a team Pakistan is relatively inexperienced

A combined 120 odd tests v England’s 550 + tests

In the end the the first innings batting collapse when we were well placed at 140 odd for two (yet failed to take a good lead) and the resultant deficit proved to be the difference
 
Pretty much my thoughts.
Such a tight game.

England deserves to be 2-0 up, they’ve been the better team, but Pakistan have played their part in this series and I would back them to win the final Test in Karachi because they are closing the gap and they were really close this time.

If England had batted sensibly they could have turned this into a one-inning affair. Pakistan couldn't capitalize on it.
 
Wrong team selection.........nothing against Salman but he needs to be replaced by a proper batter. Also in test Rizwan needs to be replaced.
 
So the ball clearly hitting the ground before Pope picked it up isn’t controversial, give me a break!

But it will be ignored because it helped England win!
 
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Not a bad side Pakistan, but England are a superior not just to Pakistan but the best side in the world.

Remember Pakistan were missing..
Afridi
Naseem
Rauf/Hasan/Abbas
their first 3 on the team sheet.

And, of course no Azhar Ali and Fawad Alam mean it will take time for the likes of Saud and Agha to bed in; remember Abdullah is only a few tests old.

Going forward, I think Mohammad Ali is your 3rd seamer, so no harm in trying Hasan Ali and Faheem Ashraf needs to up his speed to 135 -140km which he can and does so in Odis/T20s.

Zahid needs to have a bigger hand in the proceedings than cheap wickets towards the bottom end with too many runs conceded.

So, Pakistan are there and there about, not too far off, they will be ready for New Zealand.

Its not all gloom and doom ...there is plenty to cheer about.

But, of course, if you only focus on negatives, all the time, and you keep recycling the same opinions over and over again then there never will be light at the end of tunnel.
 
Pretty much my thoughts.
Such a tight game.

England deserve to be 2-0 up, they’ve been the better team, but Pakistan have played their part in this series and I would back them to win the final Test in Karachi because they are closing the gap and they were really close this time.

What with that declaration, I’m unsure if Stokes is a lucky skipper or a tactical genius. Tending to the latter….
 
Congrats England on series win fully deserved.

Pakistan lost this test in the 1st half of the game, firstly they let England get 280, which at the time i said was 30 runs to many. They allowed Mark wood to slog some easy runs with poor bowling and field settings, England shouldnt have been allowed to get more then 250. Then pakistans 1st inns batting was pathetic, they had a chance to bat england out of the game at to go from 140/2 to 200 All out was disgraceful. Its all looks good when our batsmen all got nice 40s and 50s in 2nd inns, facts are the bottled it in 1st inns when runs were needed. Giving a 1st inns leading in these conditions after bowling a side out for 280 is just not acceptable. The middle order and bits and pieces players were found and out we were chasing the game after that. Not the 1st time its happened either. Happened in both tests in SL as well where in 1st inns we batted pathetically after bowling out opposition for decent totals.

No match awareness and no responsibility taken, i couldnt care less what runs imam, saud, Nawaz, agha etc.. scored in 2nd inns. When it matter most to get into a strong positions in 1st inns our batsmen bottled it.
 
In the last 6 test pakistan has had to chased in every game, The bare face facts are that the reason we have had to chase such total that we have has been the pathetic efforts with the bat in the 1st inns in most of these test and also fact we have given away leads on 1st inns

2nd Test vs Aus - Aus 556/9 vs Pakistan 148 (408 Run lead given away)
3rd Test vs Aus - Aus 391 vs Pakistan 268 (123 run lead given away)
1st Test vs SL - SL 222 vs Pakistan 222 (4 run lead given away)
2nd test vs SL - SL 378 vs Pakistan 231 (147 run lead given away)
1st test vs Eng - Eng 657 vs Pakistan 579 (78 Run lead given away)
2nd test vs Eng - Eng 281 vs Pakistan (78 Run lead given away)

So apart Rawalpindi, out pathetic batting line up simply hasnt turned up or scored any meaningful runs, 1st inns of a game helps you either helps you set up a win or gives you a chance to save the game. Fact is pakistan on 1st inns in all 6 tests have been chasing the game.

Until these pathetic loser batsmen actually turn up in 1st half of game we will keep losing and also keep having to chase totals we have been set. You take out the Rawalpindi test and we have passed 250 once in 5 tests matches in our 1st inns.

All these soft 40s and 50s in 2nd inns are just face saving for batsmen to keep their places in the side.
 
Congrats England on series win fully deserved.

Pakistan lost this test in the 1st half of the game, firstly they let England get 280, which at the time i said was 30 runs to many. They allowed Mark wood to slog some easy runs with poor bowling and field settings, England shouldnt have been allowed to get more then 250. Then pakistans 1st inns batting was pathetic, they had a chance to bat england out of the game at to go from 140/2 to 200 All out was disgraceful. Its all looks good when our batsmen all got nice 40s and 50s in 2nd inns, facts are the bottled it in 1st inns when runs were needed. Giving a 1st inns leading in these conditions after bowling a side out for 280 is just not acceptable. The middle order and bits and pieces players were found and out we were chasing the game after that. Not the 1st time its happened either. Happened in both tests in SL as well where in 1st inns we batted pathetically after bowling out opposition for decent totals.

No match awareness and no responsibility taken, i couldnt care less what runs imam, saud, Nawaz, agha etc.. scored in 2nd inns. When it matter most to get into a strong positions in 1st inns our batsmen bottled it.

People fail to realize how badly Babar's incompetent captaincy in the field costs games. He didn't bring a pacer in for Mark Wood in the first innings when it was clear he was finding it easy against the spinners.

Harry Brookes in the second innings hit Abrar for 10 boundaries in the deep wicket region and not once did he place a fielder there for Abrar. The first time he finally placed a fielder in that area for Zahid Mehmood, Harry Brookes holed out. Babar is such a poor reader of the game, Pakistan can no longer afford his incompetency in the field as it costs us the game in the end.
 
People fail to realize how badly Babar's incompetent captaincy in the field costs games. He didn't bring a pacer in for Mark Wood in the first innings when it was clear he was finding it easy against the spinners.

Harry Brookes in the second innings hit Abrar for 10 boundaries in the deep wicket region and not once did he place a fielder there for Abrar. The first time he finally placed a fielder in that area for Zahid Mehmood, Harry Brookes holed out. Babar is such a poor reader of the game, Pakistan can no longer afford his incompetency in the field as it costs us the game in the end.

Every one knows Babar is a dumb clueless captain and his use of bowlers, poor field settings indeed is a huge issue, but out batting has been just as pathetic in recent times and a culmination of these factors is reason for shambolic results.
 
Pakistan let Root and leach bowl to them freely , they should have taken them on this flat pitches forcing Stokes to bowl his pacers more

Imam ul Haq had the best approach against Leech and Root where he frequently used his feet against them. Saud Shakeel on the other hand has rarely attacked Root and Stokes has already blocked his release shot of Leech.
 
Pak are simply not good enough. Our batsmen repeatedly fail to score 350 then how can we even dream of winning a series? We have no world class players in our test side at all neither do our players seem much interested to stay at the crease for long. The T20 format has changed the psyche of the players which is effecting test Cricket as a whole. This is probably why the great Michael Holding bid farewell to the game due to a lack of great test players.

I think many Cricket fans will lose complete interest in this format as well. Now the T10 format will further cause harm to the purest format. Eventually we'll have one over a side matches.
 
Congrats to England for winning the series. A talented bowling side and batting is good enough.

Few positives for Pakistan including Saud and Abrar.
 
If Jimmy is bowling at 18.3 in Pakistan with a match winning spell in the first game , I say he has a good 5-6 years left in him.
 
Exactly, Pak fans expects major contribution from debutants or those players who have played 5-6 test matches. They expect bowling allrounder to perform with the bat on consistent basis and batting allrounder to get wickets with consistency. For example, Nawaz failed as a bowler more than as a batsman. Babar, Rizwan, Imam & Faheem are most experienced in this current team, and they failed in their main role. Team selection was extremely poor, you can't play Faheem & Ali as a frontline fast bowler. You can't give 2nd chance to somebody like Zahid in this high profile series

well said Husain Zaidi sahab
 
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