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England beat Pakistan by 3 wickets in the first Test at Manchester in a close encounter

We totally deserve this humiliation. Picking players who should have been dropped or retired years ago, making silly decisions of picking two leggies. Making Azhar Captain again who does not know a thing about captaincy and especially a time when he was finished as a player. Bringing Misbah as a head coach plus selector. I can go on and on...
 
Too much doom and gloom from Pakistani fans

I think your side has actually overachieved

I was expecting this to be walk in the park for us

A team like Pakistan was not meant to pose any threat to this great England side but they did

In the end, however, I dont think anyone should be surprised with England winning

Don't think the issue is losing. I didn't expect them to win.

When you have a team 117/5 chasing 277 and you can't finish them off it seriously breaks your heart.
 
It's pretty convenient to always criticize and have no hopes from the team. That way if they do win, it's just a fluke, but if they don't then it's a 'I told you so' moment. Win-Win I guess.

We are so bad we can only fluke wins. That is the issue.
 
pakistani fans who were crying about rizwans decision yesterday, where you lot at :))
 
No celebrations from Pakistan. Butler has done a Hobart like Gilchrist. Can Yasir do a Chennai like Saqlain
 
This is why Buttler was persisted with. Fantastic match-winning effort.
 
To be honest I feel for Azhar, struggling with the bat and now tough day as captain.
 
This is why Buttler was persisted with. Fantastic match-winning effort.

I still don’t think he should keep. If he plays as a specialist batsman he will have even less responsibility and a clear mind.
 
Still possible, it’s Test cricket. But PAK’s risk is that Shadab might bowl couple of long hops. Butler has to be unlucky here, but I guess these things even out over the series.
 
To be honest I feel for Azhar, struggling with the bat and now tough day as captain.

I would too if he retired after South Africa tour when he averaged 9. He was done and dusted as a batsman then.
 
Send a lefti, May be Berbi, he can swing with the spin while Woakes has to stay till end
 
now who will bowl from othet end. give it to shadab i say
 
Still possible, it’s Test cricket. But PAK’s risk is that Shadab might bowl couple of long hops. Butler has to be unlucky here, but I guess these things even out over the series.

Don’t fall for the hype of Pakistani fans again. It is not possible because we are a disaster.
 
game is lost, you cant win it form here, we got the wicket too late.
 
At Chennai also sixth wicket fell with 22 to win - let’s hope over hope.
 
You can't fluke your way to 2 back-to-back series draws in England where no.1 ranking teams have been humbled multiple times. At least be sensible.

2016 was the last time we were any good in Test cricket. We got lucky in 2018 because it was only a 2 match series.
 
I would too if he retired after South Africa tour when he averaged 9. He was done and dusted as a batsman then.

Thats true. Looking at his face I was kind of feeling bad, he should have retired by now definitely. Fault is of team management as well for sticking with him and making him captain.
 
i think the only option is shadab, cant get a pacer here now
 
It cant get more Pakistani than this. U have a huge lead, collapse as always and turn on the relax mode untill a partnership develops. I have seen this so often now, feeling so sad to always get the same heartbreak.
 
either England are really good at home or pakistan are making then look better than they are. Pakistan should have easily won this game.
 
Pak should have been batting today and have declared just before Tea

Collapsing for 169. Heads should roll
 
llol Pakistan hyperactive here, thinking they can pull one ehre
 
We had everything at our disposal to win this game. Yes we threw it away in our second innings... but the captaincy today is what has cost the game
 
i would rather of 2 leggies here, no need for pace bowlers
 
As I said yesterday, if England manage to dismiss us for around 150, we would end up handing over the match to them.

This match was actually over last night when we were reduced to 137-8. We wouldn’t be ranked 7th if he had the capacity to fight back after a setback and momentum shift.
 
This pitch has been flat all day...cant blame the bowlers too much.. it has played so much better
 
[MENTION=152972]Pacy with wisdom[/MENTION]

You have been here for only a week but you have learned your lesson. It appears that your wisdom is limited to your user name only.

Would you be bumping my posts today like you did yesterday?
Dude, I love my country so i want them to do well and will support them no matter what.
However, you need to understand that apart from my nationalism, I am not a blind optimist and I dont regard this as a top tier team yet, neither do I celebrate mediocre players in this team.
There are just too many weaknesses atm, but it is not all doom n gloom like you point out.

My optimism is based on what can be in 3-4 years if things go how I expect them to.
I see potential and character in the two young fast bowlers. I also see an end of the fast bowling drought of the last 10 years. Now there are a lot of talented quicks coming up.
Azhar and Asad are going to leave, and two potentially very good batsmen are going to replace them in Haider ali n abdullah shafiq.
I see a potential great captain in Shan masood taking over from Azhar and changing the rotten culture.

I am more interested in what can be in 3,4 years and i think i am not wrong in this.
 
Berbi against Yasir - has to knock him this over for any chance.
 
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