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England beat Pakistan by 3 wickets in the first Test at Manchester in a close encounter

Junaids said:
So many self-inflicted wounds.

1. Keeper and slips far too deep.
2. No bowling plans for the lower half of the England order.
3. Neverending selection of multiple failing batsmen the wrong side of 30.
4. The best bowler in English conditions is sitting in the pavilion because he is not being considered - unlike Wahab - due to a prior red ball retirement.
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2. And 3. are just irredeemable and fairly frequent failures
 
btw i like the jokes they making on David Loyld :))

Some guy with the dhol, and one of the commie say its bumble
 
This is first time i have seen any test team playing two leg spinners. Who is best off spinner in Pakistan currently?
 
Invincible Gujjar said:
This should be end of Azhar as well as Asad
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MMHS said:
You can add two more-
5. England at home is a far, far better team than most of PP rates

6. No, apart from Azhar, there are few more who won’t make it to the WIN team - overall PAK team might not be that good as you rate

And no, Amir is not the best bowler - Abbas is and he is delivering. Amir won’t have done anything extra here, and it would have been counter productive had they picked him over Abbbas ..... and a disaster had they followed your suggestion - 4 pacers + Shadab.
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[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] is nothing if not stubborn in his views. I haven't been on here for a while yet I knew he would say pakistan should have found a place for faheem ashraf and that amir should have started every game.
 
am I crazy to think wahab and amir would be far better options than naseem and shaheen? honestly amir is great in swing conditons. wahab can still crank it up.
 
[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]

To answer your question it's a strange decision to opt for a two spinner strategy but hardly play the second spinner.

Shadab should've gotten some overs earlier. Not sure if he has the control to bowl at this stage.
 
Hasan123 said:
The talent in this team is low. Hence we are losing. People use excuses like bottling and mentality because they don't want to accept we aren't good enough.
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Talent isn't the issue. It's the temperament.

When you have a team 117/5 and panic after a boundaries. It says enough. Seen it over the last 2 decades.

They lack the brains to succeed hence why they can't handle pressure.

Our best players like Miandad and Imran biggest strength was their temperament.
 
Man I stayed up for this? I am so disappointed. Pakistan had everything in their favour. how can you bottle this is beyond me.
 
MMHS said:
31-10-69-3

All three with new ball and giving PAK a head start. Without that ball of Stokes, Poms might have batted second time academically.
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It isnt good enough . He is poor with the old ball. One wicket of stokes isnt getting you much in a test match
 
man he bought shadab on too alte. He should had been bought onw hen the team was being attacked
 
Lucky its not Micky otherwise people like Razzaq, Shoaib, Latif throw missile on him. Now its ok with desi bros.
 
Muddaser said:
Talent isn't the issue. It's the temperament.

When you have a team 117/5 and panic after a boundaries. It says enough. Seen it over the last 2 decades.

They lack the brains to succeed hence why they can't handle pressure.

Our best players like Miandad and Imran biggest strength was their temperament.
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Talent is a big issue. Other than Babar, none of these players are in contention for a world 11.

You just don't wanna admit we aren't good enough. Would rather have 11 world class players than 11 mentality strong players with no talent.
 
England will have a psychological edge now...they have mentally broken Pakistan in this match it seems.
They will be very high on confidence. Their lower middle order have played Pakistan's best bowlers really well.
 
You don't want a headingley 2019 redux here with these desperate reviews. Match could still turn and leave you ruing them.
 
junaids is not wrong here though. faheem adds more depth wirh his medium fast pace. He is a capable batsman.

need wahab back and maybe play fawad Alam. Give him a chance for God sake.
 
Major said:
man he bought shadab on too alte. He should had been bought onw hen the team was being attacked
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Me and my Grandfather were just discussing this. If the ball has gotten so old and soft then you might as well play spin from both ends. Azhar seems least bothered about how the game has slipped out of his hands.
 
All I can say in favor of this team is that this defeat from a winning position doesn’t hurt nearly as much as Sydney did. Still traumatized by that one.
 
Yasir control is finished. The guy has bowled 2 maiden which is a joke

Finished at this level for me
 
tyron_woodley said:
junaids is not wrong here though. faheem adds more depth wirh his medium fast pace. He is a capable batsman.

need wahab back and maybe play fawad Alam. Give him a chance for God sake.
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I hate it when teams pick three Number 11’s.
 
Pakistan's lack of being able to bowl maidens also shows how well England have played.

Rotating the strike throughout even when they lost wickets
 
What was the point of picking Shadab when you don't use him in the second innings. Should have gone with either a specialized batsman or a bowler because we are just 50 runs short or a wicket or two from the 5th bowler. And Azhar must retire after this test. Enough is enough!
 
once the score goes below 30 its game over for pakistan
 
Pakistan can still make a comeback. One wicket can make things interesting again.

34 more to go.
 
man, shadeeb was asked to bowl too late. too freaken lateee
 
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