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England or Pakistan: Who would be the tougher opponent for Bangladesh in the final of CT2017?

Nil Dhumrojal

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Bd have some mental block against Pakistan though they edge pak in quality and experiences. England is tough for any country and most favourite of the tournament to win the cup.

Who would be tougher for bd in the final if they can make it ?
 
Is this a question to ask? :P Definitely England would be more tougher opponent than Pakistam. But lets be realistic I don't see a chance to beat India for us in the semi.
 
Bangladesh to some extent is like Pakistan side when it comes to high pressure clash, they let the emotions get to them and lose focus.

Bangladesh performed competitively against England, NZ, Australia (to an extent) but they got thrashed by India. Similarly Pakistan, they beat SA, SL but got rolled over by India.

Point is Bangladesh maybe a better side than Pak are atm, but they could well choke on the day by trying too hard. If it's England, they will probably focus more on doing things right, than to go out there and thrash them. So more chances of performing better.

But then again, Bangladesh aren't going to make it, it's just not going to happen. The gulf in class between India and Bangladesh is too big for an upset.
 
Lol BD fans getting ahead of themselves as usual, worry about Pakistan or England AFTER you beat India in the Semifinal which in all rationality isn't going to happen, however you're fully entitled to delude yourself if it gives you solace.
 
I'd said Pakistan because of BD's poor record against us in ICC tournaments and BD's very good record against England.

But now this England team is a complete beast and I don't expect BDs to collapse against Pakistan mentally like they have done before. So England is the answer.
 
England. Pk is a weak side. We thrashed them 3-0 and won in the Asia Cup. I hope we play Pk as we are 90% likely to win.
 
My fav thread title :srini ,and no one Bangla cannot challenge England and PCT has mental hold over Bang in crunch matches.
 
Calm down !!! Bangladesh has won just 1 match out of the 5 ( 1 out of 3 excluding the unimportant warmups ) they have played so far .
I like confidence and positivity but at least put in one decent performance before going all sehwag with the threads.
 
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OP seems to have got upset with Ganguly and other analyst not giving any respect to his team. Let me tell you again. India will beat this bangla team and they are mainly thinking about finals. Bad game of the tournament is already of the way. Yes your team has improved a lot lately but not up to the level where your team can challenge big boys in the knockout game.
 
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Bd have some mental block against Pakistan though they edge pak in quality and experiences. England is tough for any country and most favourite of the tournament to win the cup.

Who would be tougher for bd in the final if they can make it ?

Relax, let's do the easiest job at hand first in SF - whoever comes thereafter in Final, actually will be more concerned about us than we should be with them.
 
haha i find the thread kinda sarcasm !! lets first play semi then delusion can continue..
 
England. Pk is a weak side. We thrashed them 3-0 and won in the Asia Cup. I hope we play Pk as we are 90% likely to win.

As cricketjoshila said, thanks for telling us 33% of your entire history when it comes to cricket. :))

Numpty. You're an insult to all the other good BD posters here. Even [MENTION=142481]Nil Dhumrojal[/MENTION] has become a good poster now.
 
I think Pakistan has always been a formidable opponent for Bangladesh. The matches have been evenly matched since the times of Inzmam.
 
We have a WC win over India. You dont.

We have WC wins over every other country, how many do you have? Heck we have a world cup in two formats, how many do you have? Beating Pakistan, India and South Africa in a series is the sum total of your achievement.

As I said, thanks for telling everyone 33% of your entire cricket history. :))
 
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This Indian team is a little overrated, on its day can be beaten by a team like Bangladesh, who are much better than what they are considered.

If they are to chase against India in 300 plus game, I think there is an upset on the cards
 
After "Bangla-washing" Pakistan, Pakistani fans would only be delusional to think they have mental block against us. Let me make it clean, they certainly don't. They would much rather play Pakistan than playing England. Pakistan has a shaky lineup, terrible batting and most importantly, the pressure of having a reputation to defend versus Bangladesh.
 
Bd have some mental block against Pakistan though they edge pak in quality and experiences. England is tough for any country and most favourite of the tournament to win the cup.

Who would be tougher for bd in the final if they can make it ?

:((:((:27::27::96:, finally some funny post among so many serious ones.
 
I honestly think that if Bangladesh make it to the finals, then they will win it no matter who they are going to face..
 
Bd have some mental block against Pakistan though they edge pak in quality and experiences. England is tough for any country and most favourite of the tournament to win the cup.

Who would be tougher for bd in the final if they can make it ?

If wishes were horses,.........
 
Let's gets past Indian hurdle first which will be the toughest.Then you will find enough time to open many threads like this "How we shall celebrate if Bangladesh wins CT?" "The first ICC final for Bangladesh,are we going to create another history?" :klopp
 
Bd have some mental block against Pakistan though they edge pak in quality and experiences. England is tough for any country and most favourite of the tournament to win the cup.

Who would be tougher for bd in the final if they can make it ?

lol about taking swipe at Pakistan team. i am an Indian and obviously ICT fan. And no one in my friend circle thinks Pakistan is a bad side, even after we trounced them in the round 1. Pakistan which has a mental block against India in big matches and BD don't have any such mental block against PK. Pakistan, even during their difficult times have had better skilled players. Pakistan is always a quality side and they play good cricket. May be a bit down now for couple of years in ODI but there is no way you can say the only reason they have won against BD is because of BD's mental block. Pakistan has always played this way, they have always had ridiculously talented individuals but ended up having their whole much less than their parts. May be at this jucture, you can say BD has a good enough team to challenge Pakistan. But in a big knock out match or even in a league match in a big tournament, i would back Pak to win four out of five times.

that does not mean things will stay this way. BD has three to four seniors who are hitting their peak now and will retain that peak for next two to three years. there is whole lot of talent coming up who are very young and should mature in next few years. So i think 2019 WC will be very interesting for BD fans. they should be genuinely disappointed if BD does not reach semifinals of 2019 WC. But for now, in this tournament, i would back Pak to beat BD. Actually BD will have a better chance against England..
 
lol about taking swipe at Pakistan team. i am an Indian and obviously ICT fan. And no one in my friend circle thinks Pakistan is a bad side, even after we trounced them in the round 1. Pakistan which has a mental block against India in big matches and BD don't have any such mental block against PK. Pakistan, even during their difficult times have had better skilled players. Pakistan is always a quality side and they play good cricket. May be a bit down now for couple of years in ODI but there is no way you can say the only reason they have won against BD is because of BD's mental block. Pakistan has always played this way, they have always had ridiculously talented individuals but ended up having their whole much less than their parts. May be at this jucture, you can say BD has a good enough team to challenge Pakistan. But in a big knock out match or even in a league match in a big tournament, i would back Pak to win four out of five times.

that does not mean things will stay this way. BD has three to four seniors who are hitting their peak now and will retain that peak for next two to three years. there is whole lot of talent coming up who are very young and should mature in next few years. So i think 2019 WC will be very interesting for BD fans. they should be genuinely disappointed if BD does not reach semifinals of 2019 WC. But for now, in this tournament, i would back Pak to beat BD. Actually BD will have a better chance against England..


all these peaks but this doesnt change the fact that had their group not have been rain affected; BD would've landed in 4th or 3rd spot...
 
all these peaks but this doesnt change the fact that had their group not have been rain affected; BD would've landed in 4th or 3rd spot...

yeah, it certainly helped them a lot. if both of Australia's matches had not gone through, they would have mostly lost(75%) against NZ and won (95%) against BD. which would have resulted in Aus going through due to better run rate which they would have acheived against BD despite a worse loss again England. They are all lots of if's and but's and current reality is BD made it to Semi. but if you compare the way BD's path to PK's path, obviously Pakistan has done more. Pak defeated the second best team (only because they are playing in a ICC tournament) and held their nerve to win a knock out. BD almost lost to second best team in their group and won a knock out. So i think Pak has done well
 
And I thought we were a delusional bunch. MashaAllah Bangladesh are better than us at everything.
 
Bd have some mental block against Pakistan though they edge pak in quality and experiences. England is tough for any country and most favourite of the tournament to win the cup.

Who would be tougher for bd in the final if they can make it ?

Bro which quality are we talking about here? Yes Bangladeshi batsmen have been applying themselves much better the Pakistani counterparts in recent time but I am not sure about that quality bit.

Tamim and Shakib are quality and if we try too hard we can add muztafizur although he isnt that surprise package anymore. Rest are applying themselves well but to be honest they can be said good but quality wise they are not that good even if you wanna see stats.
 
Don't worry!!! Both minnow will not make it to final. Had Inzi select players based on merit we might have little hope to be in the final
 
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