England v India | 5th Test | August 15-17, 2014 | The Oval

[battler]

Likely XI's
England (probable) 1 Alastair Cook (capt), 2 Sam Robson, 3 Gary Ballance, 4 Ian Bell, 5 Joe Root, 6 Moeen Ali, 7 Jos Buttler, 8 Chris Woakes, 9 Chris Jordan, 10 Stuart Broad, 11 James Anderson.

India (probable) 1 Murali Vijay, 2 Gautam Gambhir, 3 Cheteshwar Pujara, 4 Virat Kohli, 5 Ajinkya Rahane, 6 MS Dhoni (capt & wk), 7 Ravindra Jadeja/Stuart Binny, 8 R Ashwin, 9 Bhuvneshwar Kumar, 10 Varun Aaron, 11 Ishant Sharma.


Let's go India!

 

[battler]

King Ishant returns

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

The pace bowling legend arrives.

Hope he avenges the humiliation heaped upon us by the Pommies during his absence.

So excited.

 

[MarkCooper]

Rain stopped.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

GREAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

 

[MarkCooper]

Ishant is back after 2 weeks of injury.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Imagine this bowling lineup:

Bhuvi
Ishant
Umesh
Aaron
Ashwin

I know Umesh ain't there in squad but just saying.

1 swing it both ways bowler.
1 hit the deck bowler.
1 out and out pacer with a good outswing.
1 out and out pacer who swings the ball occasionally.
1 proper spinner.

 

[battler]

Imagine this bowling lineup:

Bhuvi
Ishant
Umesh
Aaron
Ashwin

I know Umesh ain't there in squad but just saying.

1 swing it both ways bowler.
1 hit the deck bowler.
1 out and out pacer with a good outswing.
1 out and out pacer who swings the ball occasionally.
1 proper spinner.

We don't have a left arm seamer

 

[nish_mate]

Imagine this bowling lineup:

Bhuvi
Ishant
Umesh
Aaron
Ashwin

I know Umesh ain't there in squad but just saying.

1 swing it both ways bowler.
1 hit the deck bowler.
1 out and out pacer with a good outswing.
1 out and out pacer who swings the ball occasionally.
1 proper spinner.

Weapons only as good as the man using the weapons and unfortunately you can give Dhoni Brahmastra and he will still find a way to lose!

Now that post SIF is more down your alley

Your post exuded too much optimism for my liking

Side effects of 15th Aug?

 

[battler]

Hope we don't put up an embarrasing display on independence day.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

We don't have a left arm seamer

How's that?

 

[nish_mate]

Hope we don't put up an embarrasing display on independence day.

Mate whatever it be it wont be 4-0 or a whitewash, so cant be embarrassing display- us Indians got higher bench marks for embarrassment!

 

[battler]

How's that?

Din't get you

 

[battler]

Mate whatever it be it wont be 4-0 or a whitewash, so cant be embarrassing display- us Indians got higher bench marks for embarrassment!

As dhoni says it's more about the 'process' than the results

 

[Electron]

Imagine this bowling lineup:

Bhuvi
Ishant
Umesh
Aaron
Ashwin

I know Umesh ain't there in squad but just saying.

1 swing it both ways bowler.
1 hit the deck bowler.
1 out and out pacer with a good outswing.
1 out and out pacer who swings the ball occasionally.
1 proper spinner.

This attack has a lot of potential, and the statement has nothing to do with "Indian standards".

 

[MarkCooper]

Give the English a good kicking on independence day.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Weapons only as good as the man using the weapons and unfortunately you can give Dhoni Brahmastra and he will still find a way to lose!

Now that post SIF is more down your alley

Your post exuded too much optimism for my liking

Side effects of 15th Aug?

Haha....

No. Just some wild hope.

Dhoniastra - When you fire it, the opponent doesn't get vanquished. You get vanquished instead. Everyone in your army dies except for a guy named Dhoni who later goes to the press conference and explains about how the "process" of firing Dhoniastra is more important than the results it produced.

 

[nish_mate]

Give the English a good kicking on independence day.

What about the remaining 5 chaps?? let them go away?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Din't get you

Sorry forgot to mention this.

How about we call up Unadkat? How's that?

This attack has a lot of potential, and the statement has nothing to do with "Indian standards".

So true. It has potential.

 

[nish_mate]

Sorry forgot to mention this.

How about we call up Unadkat? How's that?



So true. It has potential.

I rather be without a left armer than call in Unadkat!!!

 

[battler]

Sorry forgot to mention this.

How about we call up Unadkat? How's that?

Indian team should rather call you or me up instead of that useless hack.
Just lamenting the lack of a quality left-armer after zaheer's departure.
He was very good against lefties and england have plenty of left handed batsmen.

 

[Robert]

Here is Sarf Laaaardon there is total overcast but the sky is brightening up too, so play may start on time.

The air is damp but it's a bit chilly, which may limit orthodox swing bowling opportunities.

 

[Scrolln]

I think if its overcast and India are batting first, its all over for India.

Anderson will be all over us.

 

[MarkCooper]

The pitch is green according to Michael Vaughan

 

[Aman]

lol who would have thought I'd be excited to see India play

 

[Robert]

It's chucked with rain for the last few days so a green track is to be expected, just as some of the earlier wickets were flatties due to the strong sun.

 

[battler]

Delayed start with inspection at 10:45 am local time i.e 15:15 IST.

 

[Mr Consistent]

Match delayed by a wet outfield

 

[nish_mate]

It's chucked with rain for the last few days so a green track is to be expected, just as some of the earlier wickets were flatties due to the strong sun.

Chucked only last 2 days- before that it was rather warm Robert- some of us live in London as well

Plus Oval has always been brown and spinning!

 

[battler]

It's a 11:30 am local time start.

 

[Mr Consistent]

The umpires have decided on a 11.30 am start, with the toss at 11 am

 

[MarkCooper]

England win the toss and will bowl

 

[Mr Consistent]

england have won the toss and will bowl

 

[Mr Consistent]

england team unchanged

 

[MarkCooper]

And so ends Pankaj's career.

 

[Mr Consistent]

Stuart Binny is in for Ravindra Jadeja and Ishant Sharma is also back, in place of Pankaj Singh

 

[battler]

I wish India had won the toss and bowled first, today is the only day we could have got in a decent contribution by bunny with the ball.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Another loss for India.

 

[nish_mate]

Lord Binny is back and CJ mate you might as well find another team to support.....

you lose the battle to fight even before battle has commenced....

"Girte hain shahsawar hi maidaan-e-jung mei
Woh tifl kya girenge jo ghutno ke bal chale...."

 

[Electron]

Good decision to play Binny ahead of Jadeja. But a bad toss to lose.

 

[battler]

I think will go big today!

 

[loves_cricket]

3-1 to England, good bye India

 

[Robert]

Chucked only last 2 days- before that it was rather warm Robert- some of us live in London as well

Plus Oval has always been brown and spinning!

I'm really starting to think that you have memory problems matey! I went out on my push bike twice last weekend and it chucked down both times and I got drenched. Then there were some hard showers and thunderstorms in the week.

The Oval has not always been a big spin track. It was in the fifties when Surrey had Laker and Lock, but was a road in the seventies, then hard and bouncy during the eighties. Vaughan says it is green today on the BBC site.

 

[Robert]

Brightening up! I can see patches of blue overhead. Chef may regret putting India in.....

 

[Donal Cozzie]

) )

Here we go again!!

 

[battler]

gambhir

 

[Jabo]

Lol

 

[desi_launda]

: wow

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

)

And this is why I wanted both Gambhir and Dhawan to NOT play and Binny to come instead of them.

Walking wickets.

 

[Mr Consistent]

ghambir first ball gone )

 

[desi_launda]

Come on 3 digit score at least

 

[Electron]

Angry M gets a golden duck !

 

[Straight_Drive]

ah gambhir such a big disappointment

 

[Straight_Drive]

)

And this is why I wanted both Gambhir and Dhawan to NOT play and Binny to come instead of them.

Walking wickets.

you sure are very happy about it

 

[London_Lahori]

Where's Dhawan

 

[desi_launda]

Good movement for jimmy

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

you sure are very happy about it

No I am not.

I made my point very clear in that thread. You were the one going on and on about Gambhir.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Sick and tired of seeing a hopeless walking wicket.

 

[Straight_Drive]

No I am not.

I made my point very clear in that thread. You were the one going on and on about Gambhir.

) ----> not happy.....and yeah i had hopes from gambhir he disappointed...but he was never gonna be dropped after one match

 

[Bickers]

Surely there must be younger openers getting many more Ranji runs than Gambhir?

 

[Robert]

BOOM!

Jimmy needs seven, no... six more wickets to pass Sir Ian Botham as leading England test wicket taker.

 

[London_Lahori]

Pujara's average has dropped to 51

I thought it might still have been mid 50's.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

) ----> not happy.....and yeah i had hopes from gambhir he disappointed...but he was never gonna be dropped after one match

You don't know the meaning of sarcastic laugh?

Whether Gambhir was going to be dropped was NEVER our discussion. It was about whether he SHOULD be dropped.

 

[London_Lahori]

I want to see Kohli in nice and early to face Jimmy.

 

[London_Lahori]

1936 - The last time India played a Test starting on 15th August - though that was before independence, also at The Oval

 

[nish_mate]

Right atlrast we got rid of one deadwood forever!

 

[nish_mate]

I'm really starting to think that you have memory problems matey! I went out on my push bike twice last weekend and it chucked down both times and I got drenched. Then there were some hard showers and thunderstorms in the week.

The Oval has not always been a big spin track. It was in the fifties when Surrey had Laker and Lock, but was a road in the seventies, then hard and bouncy during the eighties. Vaughan says it is green today on the BBC site.

Rob i dont have memory problems- last weekend IIRC were spot showers and not really persistent rain as we had feared with Bertha- not being choosy with memory- but it has been one of the hottest with odd rain showers and Bertha came in only last week- unless you saying the pitch was prepared only over last 5 days and left to its devices over the summer??

Plus then if you saying its a green wicket becuase of rain- why was Lords a greener then- no rain then????

Dont add up either ways my friend?

 

[Straight_Drive]

You don't know the meaning of sarcastic laugh?

Whether Gambhir was going to be dropped was NEVER our discussion. It was about whether he SHOULD be dropped.

I also meant should not be dropped cause every player deserves more than one chance...but failing again he has messed up that chance

 

[nish_mate]

Straight-Drive we been losing ever since you came onboard- disappear for a while will ya and we might have a chance at resurrecting this tour??

 

[Straight_Drive]

Straight-Drive we been losing ever since you came onboard- disappear for a while will ya and we might have a chance at resurrecting this tour??

too small sample size man...just 2 matches...need more matches before we make that judgement

 

[London_Lahori]

Rob i dont have memory problems- last weekend IIRC were spot showers and not really persistent rain as we had feared with Bertha- not being choosy with memory- but it has been one of the hottest with odd rain showers and Bertha came in only last week- unless you saying the pitch was prepared only over last 5 days and left to its devices over the summer??

It's actually been raining frequently for the last 7-10 days, sometimes it's been really heavy.

 

[nish_mate]

Right our lucks changing- Cookie drops Barbie strops

 

[nish_mate]

It's actually been raining frequently for the last 7-10 days, sometimes it's been really heavy.

And L_L then you saying that pitch was prepared only over last 7 days and before that it was left to its devices right and actually no thought has been put into what type of wickets to prepare? Right ECB got no hand in preparing pitches for home advantage??

Then explain how come last year was dry wickets- even the CT final wicket- it was raining all that week and that wicket resembled a sub continent one then an English wicket?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I also meant should not be dropped cause every player deserves more than one chance...but failing again he has messed up that chance

Yes, you raised that point and I said this:

That I would agree in normal circumstances but here the problem is:

1. We are in dire straits.
2. Gambhir did himself no favors by looking horrible (flopping was ok but he looked like getting out anytime)
3. He even struggled in the nets before the 4th Test

I don't know what the Indian management would do but I would prefer a middle order batsman compared to Gambhir now.

 

[Straight_Drive]

Yes, you raised that point and I said this:

yeah yeah we have been through this.....Gambhir's gone ...now conc on pujara....mah buoy kohli is gonna score big

 

[nish_mate]

yeah yeah we have been through this.....Gambhir's gone ...now conc on pujara....mah buoy kohli is gonna score big

For Kohli to score a wicket needs to go- shall we just concentrate on this pair scoring some???

 

[London_Lahori]

And L_L then you saying that pitch was prepared only over last 7 days and before that it was left to its devices right and actually no thought has been put into what type of wickets to prepare? Right ECB got no hand in preparing pitches for home advantage??

Then explain how come last year was dry wickets- even the CT final wicket- it was raining all that week and that wicket resembled a sub continent one then an English wicket?

The pitch is normally being prepared from a while out, but the problem is the groundsman hasn't had enough time to work on it as he would have liked.

As for the CT query, that pitch was drier and more used as it had been being used throughout the tournament. It was essentially a used pitch, hence why it was dry.

 

[Mr Consistent]

pujara

 

[nish_mate]

Right Che out- now you got your wish Straight_Drive!!!

Damn you!!!!

 

[Straight_Drive]

For Kohli to score a wicket needs to go- shall we just concentrate on this pair scoring some???

these were just the fillers....kohli is the main attraction....in comes mah buoy...btw it you who jinxed it