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England v Pakistan | 1st Test | Lord's | Jul 14-18, 2016 | Day 3

England keeping woakes for the new ball it seems, i reckon wel get abt 3/4 overs from moeen
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]; I would like to know your views regarding Yasir Shah's batting?
 
considering the other marginal decisions in the match that could have easily been given. phew.
 
Many people are blaming Bairstow and Sarfraz for their drops, even though everyone has said it's very difficult for the men behind the stumps since the pitch isn't carrying at times, and we saw both those edges really hurrying the keepers. It's tough, those drops happen.
 
Abdul said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]; I would like to know your views regarding Yasir Shah's batting?
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Looks good. He has the ability to score a hundred in the UAE one day.

Can average 15-20.

Did well in an ODI in Zimbabwe as well.
 
This WinViz tool is horrible. 268 ahead with 4 wickets in hand is not a 50/50 match on a pitch where one successful 300+ chase has occurred in the history of the game.
 
Chucker got a fifty in England too. Our tail-enders tend to do well in England.
 
Actually tail-ender's batting mostly is a function of top 6/7. Obviously it's great to have players like Wasim or Saq or Warne or MoJo. I actually expected PAK tail to add more than 1st innings as the bowlers are tiered & the game is in PAK's favour.

I put it other way - it's easier to improve Aamir, Yasir, Wahab's batting average by 50%, then reducing Anwar Ali or Imad's bowling average by say 25%. It doesn't work like that way.
 
The beauty of test cricket at full display here. Pakistani team fighting out for a defendable total. England fans backing up their team who are trying hard. Well done lads from both teams.
 
Mamoon said:
Looks good. He has the ability to score a hundred in the UAE one day.

Can average 15-20.

Did well in an ODI in Zimbabwe as well.
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I'm actually very impressed by him. Has a decent record in First-class cricket too.

In past, we have had rubbish tailenders like Mohammad Irfan and Junaid Khan. Rahat Ali is rubbish too. Definitely a refreshing change. Looks out of blue.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Absolutely amazing to watch
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Compare this to the bakwas coverage in UAE or Asia, crappy Ten/PTV coverage and commentators with two men and their dogs showing up in the crowd.

This is why I can't wait for our England tours.
 
this has been a great test match

cant believe pak werent bowled out for 130 when they were 4 down
 
This is just Amazing to watch to be honest - I just can't take my eyes off the game...

Test Match at it's absolute finest :14:
 
osee_bhai said:
This WinViz tool is horrible. 268 ahead with 4 wickets in hand is not a 50/50 match on a pitch where one successful 300+ chase has occurred in the history of the game.
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The Betfair odds also have it very close to 50/50 at that point.

WinViz also calculates player quality in addition to match situation, so there's a lot of logic beyond just the situation.

In any event the fact that pro gamblers, syndicates, hedge funds and the like think it's close to 50-50 is a decent indication of consensus.

For what it's worth, I think Pakistan has done it by now.
 
Arham_PakFan said:
This Winwiz thing is a joke.

Pakistan slightly ahead IMO.300 will be a safe total.
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Lead is already bigger than ENG 1st innings total. Going to be difficult for them in last innings, specially against Yasir on day 4/5.
 
Hopefully these 2 can see us off to the end of they day and than add another 40 tomorrow.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
The Betfair odds also have it very close to 50/50 at that point.

WinViz also calculates player quality in addition to match situation, so there's a lot of logic beyond just the situation.

In any event the fact that pro gamblers, syndicates, hedge funds and the like think it's close to 50-50 is a decent indication of consensus.

For what it's worth, I think Pakistan has done it by now.
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Betfair probably put their last odds sometimes when Yasir came to bat - 50/50 or 9:10 was reasonable then.
 
I knew Woakes would get him. He's defo the partnership breaker as well as the one denying batsmen these landmark 50s lol.
 
Good innings by safu. 25 more shouldn't be difficult to add. Can remember when Shafiq and younis was batting, wrist splitters were predicting 150 all out :)))
 
CricketAnalyst said:
The Betfair odds also have it very close to 50/50 at that point.

WinViz also calculates player quality in addition to match situation, so there's a lot of logic beyond just the situation.

In any event the fact that pro gamblers, syndicates, hedge funds and the like think it's close to 50-50 is a decent indication of consensus.

For what it's worth, I think Pakistan has done it by now.
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I didn't realize the odds makers had similar odds, that's interesting. I'd still fancy a bet on Pak here, especially now with Sarfraz down.
 
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