England vs India - ODI legacy from 2010 onwards

[Bhaijaan]

5 good years in white ball cricket tasting success mostly at home and a select few nations doesn’t make England a white ball powerhouse.

They are an embarrassment in 2023 WC and they were an embarrassment in 2015 in Australia.

Bharat’s legacy :-
2011 - Champions
2013 - Champions
2015 - Table topper. Semi finalist
2017 - Table topper. Finalist
2019 - Table topper. Semi finalist
2023 - Table topper so far

Some people still claim England are the bad boys in ODIs. But Bharat have been more impressive across a variety of surfaces all over the world.

 

[Saanji]

Dude, what an open invitation

 

[batandballbattle]

Your bias is showing here. Yes England have been found out in India but they have still been powerhouses in the years leading up to the tournament and laid a lot of groundwork for others.

Their re-organisation post 2015 is what a lot of teams have looked at and adopted. After 2019 everyone realised it is no longer enough to go hard in the first and last 10 and negotiate in the middle, you need to go hard throughout. Other teams have caught up, and that is where England have been left behind.

Of course there have been attacking batsmen for a long time in ODIs. Viv, Jayasuria, Klusener, Sehwag, even Lala once in a blue moon. But treating 50 overs like 2.5 t20s can still be credited to England.

 

[RexRex]

Enjoy while it lasts coz we'll be choking in the semis.

 

[Mas-LFC]

England were a powerhouse post 2015cwc till pre cwc23. Every dog has its days.

India didn’t win much LOI world cups to boast about too much. For a nation of a billion plus which invest most in cricket, like a religion to most of them, has all the fire power, huge fan base, all the infrastructure in cricket, only won 2CWC 1T20 wc. Whereas Australia has 3CWC in a row, 5 in total, 1 T20wc too. Australia’s record will always remain the most powerful phase from a cricketing team ever played the game as no one will ever emulate Australia’s 3 back to back CWC. Period!

 

[Ab Fan]

England also played a Champions Trophy in 2017 in England only and they bombed. I agree that England's legacy isn't big. It was just few years in home conditions when they have batting firepowers of Roy, Bairstow and Butter backed by the man for big moments, Stokes.

They are a lot of Pakistani fans here who live in England so they will deny this but this is the reality. England's legacy isn't big enough to be rated all that high, they never won an ODI series in India as well, even the ABD led SA won it and recently the Aussies won it.