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England vs Pakistan | 2nd ODI | Southampton | May 11, 2019 | England Innings

I agree, he should have been given more chances. Unlike the other left arm orthodox bowlers, he actually spins the ball.

Wasnt even given one match in this PSL just like Usama Mir. Everybody worries about batting but our spin department has been poor for sometime now as well
 
Our team has looked demotivated and dejected since the Asia Cup humiliation. Much like our fans, our players’ heads were in the clouds and they thought they were invincible superstars after the Champions and Trophy and the minnow bashing that followed.

The likes of Sarfraz came up with stupid statements of how India is afraid of us and the likes of Hasan were talking about taking 10 wickets against India etc., but the reality check in Asia Cup brought them back to earth and showed them their place.

Since then, the morale has been low and it appears that Mickey has given up as well.

Good post, you are absolutely right.
 
People really need to stop exaggerating. Don't know why all of you are surprised. England are unbeatable at home.
 
Wasnt even given one match in this PSL just like Usama Mir. Everybody worries about batting but our spin department has been poor for sometime now as well

Pakistan's spin stocks have fallen so much since ICC's clampdown of chuckers. We don't produce wicket taking right arm offies any more because all the ones coming through the system have suspect actions. This is where the problem lies.

Who would have thought the land of Qadir, Mushtaq Ahmed, Saqlain et al would go on to have one of the worst spin attacks in the world today.
 
Pakistan think tank need to seriously consider what they expect out of this series.. treat this as prep.. try aggressive strategies to see how players respond. Don’t be formulaic and safe because you do that in the World Cup games.. right now you can see how players respond if you just let them at the jugular of the opposition. Our guys transform into a different beast when given the freedom to play with the natural flair.

This is pathetic! We are getting stream rolled!
 
Haris is more accurate than Yasir and batsman at least needs to create a shot
 
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Pakistan's bowling figures against the top 5 sides in ODIs since the Champions Trophy final. Dire stuff.
 
Pakistan's spin stocks have fallen so much since ICC's clampdown of chuckers. We don't produce wicket taking right arm offies any more because all the ones coming through the system have suspect actions. This is where the problem lies.

Who would have thought the land of Qadir, Mushtaq Ahmed, Saqlain et al would go on to have one of the worst spin attacks in the world today.

Also we havent developed the likes of Zafar Gohar, Asghar, Usama, Raza Hassan who all had better List A records then Yasir. Atleast one of them should have been developed alongside Shadab
 
People still think that since the world cup is in England, guys like Afridi, Hasan, Amir will run through sides because of seam and swing. This world cup will be played on pancakes. Spin would win the world cup and we have two spinners in our team who don't spin the ball 5 degrees even.
 
Clutching at straws but hopefully the rain break will break up the batsmen's rhythm.
 
What are we going to hear?? Please can we have a poll??

- It's a young team

- We are testing bench

- There are many positives as well as negatives

- If we had scored more runs and taken more wickets we would have won

- We are resting our formidable world XI players (Hafeez, Malik etc)

- We are still acclimatising??

- The weather and the food is not hot enough??

- The nightclubs are cheap and they do 2 for 1
 
What are we going to hear?? Please can we have a poll??

- It's a young team

- We are testing bench

- There are many positives as well as negatives

- If we had scored more runs and taken more wickets we would have won

- We are resting our formidable world XI players (Hafeez, Malik etc)

- We are still acclimatising??

- The weather and the food is not hot enough??

- The nightclubs are cheap and they do 2 for 1
They have been collectively poor. That's all there is to it tbh.
 
Also we havent developed the likes of Zafar Gohar, Asghar, Usama, Raza Hassan who all had better List A records then Yasir. Atleast one of them should have been developed alongside Shadab

All of these names are better than Yasir Shah, despite their lack of chances. Pakistan's think tank has no foresight when it comes to succession planning, but that won't happen anytime soon until they abolish the seniority culture.
 
We are developing our team for 2023, and when that time comes a new excuse, these people are hopeless. Id rather they loose but entertain us.

Fakhar
Kamran /Sharjeel when he returns
Babar Azam
Hafeez C
Umar Akmal
Asif Ali
Khusdil / Ifrikhar Ahmed
Shadab
Hassan Ali
Wahab
Haris Rauf

Atleast we can see genuine pace and a few sixes
 
What are we going to hear?? Please can we have a poll??

- It's a young team

- We are testing bench

- There are many positives as well as negatives

- If we had scored more runs and taken more wickets we would have won

- We are resting our formidable world XI players (Hafeez, Malik etc)

- We are still acclimatising??

- The weather and the food is not hot enough??

- The nightclubs are cheap and they do 2 for 1

”We are testing bench” and ”the pitch was not in our favour”.
 
The commentators seem shocked at the fact that Yasir got to play. This management is a joke. Why aren’t good players in the team speaking up?
 
Would love to hear how Mickey and Inzi defend yasir, they had a lot of concerns about Haris Rauf on the other hand
 
The rain won’t do us any good.. of overs reduced the adjusted total for us will be much higher because England is in a commanding position.
 
Bro they are simply not good enough - this is professional athletes vs have a goers and it's been evident for a long time

Pakistani fans and their knee jerk reactions are not surprising at all. If same team wins tonight u guys will start saying positively. Relax and dont judge 🤦*♂️. Let the game finish then u can criticise.
 
The commentators seem shocked at the fact that Yasir got to play. This management is a joke. Why aren’t good players in the team speaking up?

Because of the culture they have created and the set up - those who speak up will be "silenced"
 
The commentators seem shocked at the fact that Yasir got to play. This management is a joke. Why aren’t good players in the team speaking up?

I will blame Sarfaraz the most considering he is the captain for 2, 3 years now and he knows the players and have played against and with them.

Surely him, malik and hafeez would know that Yasir is a poor white ball bowler. Them not speaking up or recommending a better option is just shocking. None of them seem to be involved
 
Pakistani fans and their knee jerk reactions are not surprising at all. If same team wins tonight u guys will start saying positively. Relax and dont judge ��*♂️. Let the game finish then u can criticise.


Bro I totally respect what you say - we're having a bit of a fun and at the same time feeling hurt by what we have been subjected to for far too long

We want Pak to win but forgive us for reacting this way as we've seen it all too often before

Peace bro
 
Pakistani fans and their knee jerk reactions are not surprising at all. If same team wins tonight u guys will start saying positively. Relax and dont judge ��*♂️. Let the game finish then u can criticise.

Winning and loosing is part of game but not doing the basics right and not controlling the controllable factors is not on. Selection of Yasir and strategy of our pacers will remain questionable irrespective of the result.
 
What are we going to hear?? Please can we have a poll??

- It's a young team

- We are testing bench

- There are many positives as well as negatives

- If we had scored more runs and taken more wickets we would have won

- We are resting our formidable world XI players (Hafeez, Malik etc)

- We are still acclimatising??

- The weather and the food is not hot enough??

- The nightclubs are cheap and they do 2 for 1

It's unlikely to be due to the nightclubs.... Umar Akmal isn't playing :uakmal

I'm going with it's awfully cold out there and we're still acclimatising to the shock of having to play cricket against attacking batsmen!
 
This scorecard currently is so similar to the one after 29 overs when eng made 444.
 
It's unlikely to be due to the nightclubs.... Umar Akmal isn't playing :uakmal

I'm going with it's awfully cold out there and we're still acclimatising to the shock of having to play cricket against attacking batsmen!

Thanks bro - How dare those nasty batsmen attack you!!! - they should go running to their mummies and let the real men play
 
If Plunkett is batting at XI....thats some batting XI that eng have....
Why does sarf get Ashraf to open the bowling when u have ali who is surely better with the new ball...
 
Nasser spot on with Pakistans problem.

Not taking wickets with the new ball and then its catch up for the rest of the match.
 
Nasser spot on with Pakistans problem.

Not taking wickets with the new ball and then its catch up for the rest of the match.

Had same problem in most of the CT 17 as well but Hasan was able to hide it with amazing form.
 
Deserved a hundred. A very good innings after hardly playing recently.
 
Once again Hasan strikes - the one who doesn’t get the new ball.
 
Sarfraz should target to get few quick wickets now to get back in the game
 
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