England will be having its strongest lineup for the next 3 Tests | The battle is truly on

[sensible-indian-fan]

England will make 2 changes.

Buttler in for useless Duckett.

Woakes in for pointless Ansari.

So English lineup will be most likely

Cook
Hameed
Root
Moeen
Stokes
Bairstow
Buttler
Woakes
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

4 pacers to maintain the relentless attack.
2 spinners to keep them support.

As for Mohali track, I don't expect much of a turner this time (hopefully I am wrong) so looks like Indians will have their work cut out.

This is going to be THE test that will play a pivotal role in this series.

Its going be one hell of a fight next game.

A win for India here would most likely break England's spirit. They are banking on this venue.

A win for England here would just make this series go down to the wire.

 

[King Kong]

To be honest, this English lineup looks slightly stronger than India's.

 

[Executioner]

But English spin attack is just poor

 

[samplepiece]

The only issue here with 4 seamers is that atleast 1 if not 2 would be under-bowled. If they are not under-bowled, then the spinners would be under-bowled resulting in Cook getting suspended for poor over rate.

 

[MMHS]

England will make 2 changes.

Buttler in for useless Duckett.

Woakes in for pointless Ansari.

So English lineup will be most likely

Cook
Hameed
Root
Moeen
Stokes
Bairstow
Buttler
Woakes
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

4 pacers to maintain the relentless attack.
2 spinners to keep them support.

As for Mohali track, I don't expect much of a turner this time (hopefully I am wrong) so looks like Indians will have their work cut out.

This is going to be THE test that will play a pivotal role in this series.

Its going be one hell of a fight next game.

A win for India here would most likely break England's spirit. They are banking on this venue.

A win for England here would just make this series go down to the wire.

May be now SIF, you can recall my post that ENG should have brought Samit Patel - but this guy Zafar is more talented than Jaddu, probably that's the understanding across all ranks

I don't think ENG will go with 4 pacers - probably, Barbi will have a rest, while Batty will replace Ansari & for sure Josh is going to play - it was insane to put 7 lefti against IND with 2 offie & Shami in the line up.


It's a no contest on a typical Mohali wicket, with IND batting first - Poms can make a real match of it if they win the toss.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

May be now SIF, you can recall my post that ENG should have brought Samit Patel - but this guy Zafar is more talented than Jaddu, probably that's the understanding across all ranks��

I don't think ENG will go with 4 pacers - probably, Barbi will have a rest, while Batty will replace Ansari & for sure Josh is going to play - it was insane to put 7 lefti against IND with 2 offie & Shami in the line up.


It's a no contest on a typical Mohali wicket, with IND batting first - Poms can make a real match of it if they win the toss.

What would a typical Mohali wicket be like?

Imagine its all simulated...

What would happen if India bat first?

What would happen if England bat first?

 

[shaz619]

We lost two tests in England back to back and still levelled the series, maybe England and India will be just as strong mentally by showing an ability to bounce back after falling behind. Anyhow cheers for the hype for the 3rd Test, it needs it because by the looks of it Ind are the favourites

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

The only issue here with 4 seamers is that atleast 1 if not 2 would be under-bowled. If they are not under-bowled, then the spinners would be under-bowled resulting in Cook getting suspended for poor over rate.

Good point.

 

[leg-side-flick]

Said yesterday in other thread, I am mighty impressed with this English team and with Butler n Woakes coming in, I think they can win the series....

Not sure about broad though, he might not play....

India needs support from Rahane n Jaddu in batting.......Saha is making the line up weaker...

 

[Gabbar Singh]

When your number 10 has a 150+ against Amir, Asif and co you know you have a long batting line up. Okay Broad has been dire with the bat for a while but still.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Strongest england line up or not there are still 2 major issues with england team.

1) 3rd X1 village cricket level spin bowlers in the team
2) Batting is prone to collapses regularly

with these two problems with the team they will struggle to win test matches in these conditions.

 

[Tusker]

England will make 2 changes.

Buttler in for useless Duckett.

Woakes in for pointless Ansari.

So English lineup will be most likely

Cook
Hameed
Root
Moeen
Stokes
Bairstow
Buttler
Woakes
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

4 pacers to maintain the relentless attack.
2 spinners to keep them support.

As for Mohali track, I don't expect much of a turner this time (hopefully I am wrong) so looks like Indians will have their work cut out.

This is going to be THE test that will play a pivotal role in this series.

Its going be one hell of a fight next game.

A win for India here would most likely break England's spirit. They are banking on this venue.

A win for England here would just make this series go down to the wire.

Broad unlikely to play due to injury ... or has that changed ?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Broad unlikely to play due to injury ... or has that changed ?

I don't think they would want Broad to go off for the Mohali test. Will try their best to make him match fit.

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Stuart Broad has not given up hope of playing in the third Test in Mohali despite suffering an injury to the tendons in his right foot in Visakhapatnam. The England seamer revealed that he will wear a protective "moon" boot to try and aid his recovery, with four days between the second and third Tests.

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[sensible-indian-fan]

Normally, I wouldn't give England much chance.

But with the kind of boring pitches we are dishing out, I wouldn't write off England. They have the heart and they have some quality players in their XI who can be dangerous in these pitches.

We managed to turn an ACTUAL rank turner (Vizag) into a docile pitch. Seems like asking for a proper track (let alone a rank turner) is a luxury.

Let's see what Mohali throws up.

 

[MMHS]

What would a typical Mohali wicket be like?

Imagine its all simulated...

What would happen if India bat first?

What would happen if England bat first?

Typical Mohali wicket is those where you start with a 200 run handicap if you bat first - large ground with lightning out-field & a good batting surface on hard but dry deck - 1st 4 sessions are like dream for batsman - last 4 is nightmare.

If IND bats first, probably Virat will have the chance to enforce the follow-on again - not necessarily he will or should that. But ENG will chase 400 again with 4.5 sessions to survive.

If ENG bats first, two things can happen - less likely is ENG blowing the batting on Day 1 for 260/8 closing; then IND posting close to 400 & net 2 days for ENG to bail it out - a small chance of defending 200 ish target, or IND wins.

But, there is a good chance that this long ENG line-up will post either side of 400 in 1st innings & then new ball, old ball, score board pressure will come in to play & IND will be left to chase 350+ in 4 sessions.

Can you remember my post on 2nd Test - my ideal scenario for my team was "to post 450 on 1st innings - batting 2nd, if opponent puts 575, they deserve to win; otherwise I would like to set something like 319 in 4 sessions" - IND almost matched that & that's typical Indian condition.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Typical Mohali wicket is those where you start with a 200 run handicap if you bat first - large ground with lightning out-field & a good batting surface on hard but dry deck - 1st 4 sessions are like dream for batsman - last 4 is nightmare.

If IND bats first, probably Virat will have the chance to enforce the follow-on again - not necessarily he will or should that. But ENG will chase 400 again with 4.5 sessions to survive.

If ENG bats first, two things can happen - less likely is ENG blowing the batting on Day 1 for 260/8 closing; then IND posting close to 400 & net 2 days for ENG to bail it out - a small chance of defending 200 ish target, or IND wins.

But, there is a good chance that this long ENG line-up will post either side of 400 in 1st innings & then new ball, old ball, score board pressure will come in to play & IND will be left to chase 350+ in 4 sessions.

Can you remember my post on 2nd Test - my ideal scenario for my team was "to post 450 on 1st innings - batting 2nd, if opponent puts 575, they deserve to win; otherwise I would like to set something like 319 in 4 sessions" - IND almost matched that & that's typical Indian condition.

Damn...toss may play a big role this time too.

In the past, posters were complaining about Indian pitches being unfair when there was enough help for both sides whether you won or lost the toss. Of course, team losing the toss had a bit of disadvantage.

This looks like nightmarish stuff when compared to that.

Thanks for the reply mate.

 

[Mainul]

England will make 2 changes.

Buttler in for useless Duckett.

Woakes in for pointless Ansari.

So English lineup will be most likely

Cook
Hameed
Root
Moeen
Stokes
Bairstow
Buttler
Woakes
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

4 pacers to maintain the relentless attack.
2 spinners to keep them support.

As for Mohali track, I don't expect much of a turner this time (hopefully I am wrong) so looks like Indians will have their work cut out.

This is going to be THE test that will play a pivotal role in this series.

Its going be one hell of a fight next game.

A win for India here would most likely break England's spirit. They are banking on this venue.

A win for England here would just make this series go down to the wire.

I feel real excited.

 

[Slog]

Broad will skip next match

 

[MMHS]

Damn...toss may play a big role this time too.

In the past, posters were complaining about Indian pitches being unfair when there was enough help for both sides whether you won or lost the toss. Of course, team losing the toss had a bit of disadvantage.

This looks like nightmarish stuff when compared to that.

Thanks for the reply mate.

Rank turner is always better than the sluggish staff - the CTG & Dhaka wickets had very little impact of toss. ENG won the 1st Test with an impact ful 6th wicket partnership ij both innings; BD won the 2nd Test with strategic initiatives (scored at 4.5+ in both innings against new ball before spinners & reverse swing came in to play). Toss going opposite, results could have been altered, but still it's far better than you lose the toss & chase the game for 29 hours.

 

[street cricketer]

Wanted to create a similar thread. Yeah well I know we won, but India have a lot of concerns in their team that have probably been pushed under the carpet after the victory. Openers are inconsistent, we are not getting a huge opening partnership. The line up is getting carried by Kohli and Pujara. Rahane's weakness against spin is getting exposed. Ashwin is not a bankable player who you could depend on to make a 70 or 80. Saha looks like a glorified tailender atm. The only reason our line up is putting reasonable scores is because of the depth of the batting line up, otherwise there could have been some serious embarrassment. Our 2nd innings performances in the last 2 matches must give an idea.

The most important thing above all is that England have experience in playing a 5 match series, India don't. They know to make comebacks, we don't. India drew first blood in the last two series they played England both home and away, only to lose the series in the end. So this is the most crucial match as far as India is concerned. If India lose this match, I don't see India making a comeback in the series. But England losing the Mohali match might put enormous pressure on them and might just be the one that breaks their confidence.

It's all well and nice to be euphoric after the win, but it's just the start of the series. As Geoffrey Boycott nicely remarked after the match, India aren't as good as they think they are and England aren't as bad as India think they are..

 

[ShoonyaSifar]

And a typical thread from SIF after a win.

Buttler alone cant do much to make this English team look strong, Woakes didnt do much in Rajkotr.

OTOH I would now expect Rahul and Rahane to strike form, Jayant will be more confident and potent, Ashwin is getting his rhythm back. All in all bring it on England

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

And a typical thread from SIF after a win.

Buttler alone cant do much to make this English team look strong, Woakes didnt do much in Rajkotr.

OTOH I would now expect Rahul and Rahane to strike form, Jayant will be more confident and potent, Ashwin is getting his rhythm back. All in all bring it on England

When have I ever opened such a thread after a win brother?

On genuine spin tracks, I expect India to really hurt England but on the kind of tracks we are getting you never know.

Woakes didn't do much in Rajkot but was bowling beautifully.

Buttler probably won't score 100s but he won't be a free wicket for us.

England are stacking quantity to compensate for quality and sometimes it can work.

On a day 1 easy batting track in Mohali, if England put on 450...it can be really hard. Actually the burden is way more on Ash, Jaddu and Jayant to not let that happen in case we lose the toss.

 

[The_Odd_One]

England middle order looks weak. Moeen is not a #4 batsman. Can anyone in this team except Cook and Root play a 150+ inning?

 

[Buffet]

Buttler has test average of 30 and highest score of 85 so far. Eng is banking too much on him to play as a specialist batsman. Hopefully, he comes good.

 

[Square Drive]

England will win.

 

[street cricketer]

Bhuvi gets included in the squad for the remaining three tests ahead of Gambhir.

Any chance he'll play at Mohali?

 

[street cricketer]

I think he should play ahead of Yadav at Mohali. Cool weather up north, traditionally supports seamers - good enough a reason to pick Bhuvi. Even if the pitch isn't seamer friendly (which will most probably be the case), the cool weather may aid swing and BK is good with the new ball. His good record against England is only a bonus.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Apart from Cook, Root and Bairstow the remaining batting slots in middle order are up for grabs.. england have been trying out different options for 2/3 years now with no real success in finding a settled and quality top 6 batting line up.

 

[street cricketer]

Apart from Cook, Root and Bairstow the remaining batting slots in middle order are up for grabs.. england have been trying out different options for 2/3 years now with no real success in finding a settled and quality top 6 batting line up.

Stokes and Moeen have had a fantastic year with the bat.

 

[khalil1986]

Buttler is horrible against spin and got dropped due tho his inability to play spinners even on non turners.

 

[Saurav]

India will win easily

Cook threw away a huge chance in Rajkot to go 1-0 up and put pressure on us.Not getting it again

 

[Adijazz1706]

What would a typical Mohali wicket be like?

Imagine its all simulated...

What would happen if India bat first?

What would happen if England bat first?

Whichever team bats first is much more likely to win than the chasing team based on the 1st 2 Tests.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Stokes and Moeen have had a fantastic year with the bat.

They will remain the side as the lower middle order due to fact they give balance to the side as all rounders. but essentially the 2nd opening spot and number 4 spot in batting line up have remained unfulfilled for a while now.

 

[street cricketer]

They will remain the side as the lower middle order due to fact they give balance to the side as all rounders. but essentially the 2nd opening spot and number 4 spot in batting line up have remained unfulfilled for a while now.

Haseeb has made the 2nd opener slot for himself for now and probably long term. So that leaves only the no.4.

 

[srh]

England will make 2 changes.

Buttler in for useless Duckett.

Woakes in for pointless Ansari.

So English lineup will be most likely

Cook
Hameed
Root
Moeen
Stokes
Bairstow
Buttler
Woakes
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

4 pacers to maintain the relentless attack.
2 spinners to keep them support.

As for Mohali track, I don't expect much of a turner this time (hopefully I am wrong) so looks like Indians will have their work cut out.

This is going to be THE test that will play a pivotal role in this series.

Its going be one hell of a fight next game.

A win for India here would most likely break England's spirit. They are banking on this venue.

A win for England here would just make this series go down to the wire.

can England beat ball tampering

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

can England beat ball tampering

Probably....cos India is doing it.

If it were "someone else", no chance.