England's captain in the next Ashes in Australia?

[Varun]

Looks like England are staring down the barrel again. In any case, there has rarely been a case when the same captain has continued to skipper the side in the next Ashes down under.

If not Root, who will it be? Is he already playing in the team, or will he reveal himself sometime between now and 2021/22?

 

[delpiero10]

Barring his batting form falling off a cliff, or England consistently producing unacceptable results in the next four years, it's more than likely still to be Root as captain for the next tour.

He is still one of the youngest players in the England team right now, so it's hard to see anyone currently in the team inheriting the captaincy. Stokes is far too much of a hothead to be trusted with the test captaincy.

If there is to be a different captain the next time England go Down Under, I think it's more likely to be someone who is yet to make their debut. I don't see Malan and Vince lasting long in the team with the odd innings of 50 here and there. Outside shot that a new young batsman is brought into the team next year, and establishes himself into the team over 30 to 40 matches before being considered a viable option as captain.

 

[Convict]

Bairstow

 

[Robert]

Probably still Root. They have about a five year span before the pressure of the job wears them down. I don’t want to see Root break down like Vaughan or get that thousand yard stare like Strauss but it will happen.

 

[Hasan123]

Root will still be captain.

 

[UN talkz]

Hamidullah Qadri

 

[Ab Fan]

That guy who hasn't been part of this team in this series- Ben Stokes!

 

[kingusama92]

Should be Root unless they lose the Ashes in 2019.

 

[Bilal7]

Should be Root unless they lose the Ashes in 2019.

This. If Root wins the Ashes in England, along with a strong showing at the World Cup (possibly a win?), there is no reason for him to be relieved of his duties.

 

[Ab Fan]

Root isn't really a captaincy material to even make it to Ashes 2019 in England.

 

[HitWicket]

This. If Root wins the Ashes in England, along with a strong showing at the World Cup (possibly a win?), there is no reason for him to be relieved of his duties.

What makes you think Morgan won't be captain at the world cup?

 

[hadi123]

He's a great player but not a great captain but I can't think of any other potential captaincy candidates so I reckon he may as well be kept but he does need to improve his captaincy, has made some questionable decisions at times.

 

[Lefthanded]

England's #2, 3, and 5 don't seem to be Test class and one or more may not even play in the 4th or 5th Test.

Anderson and Broad are in their twilight. Moeen isn't much of a leader. Cook's a moot point. Chris Woakes is currently just a nice sweet guy and fourth seamer isn't settled. Stokes didn't even really want vice-captaincy but his violence may not matter by then, and he may be another mistake, like Flintoff was.

So there's only Bairstow who from more than one account, isn't particularly liked by the team, has even contributed to being at the margins of the ODI side, and is apparently too much of a loner to lead.

Root may be captain, but recent English captains don't last for more than three or fours years.

So if it's not Root or Stokes, I think it might be someone who hasn't even debuted yet.

 

[The_Odd_One]

There is no other option. Root will continue.

 

[ads101]

Well it can't be Stokes anymore in light of the events, so I think Root will continue. I don't think he's doing a bad job either, nor is his batting suffering. Just doesn't have a good enough team.

Broad will be too old, and is a fast bowler. I think he might play as a player next time in Australia, but he's not a long term captaincy option.

There's an outside chance perhaps Morgan might take over the reins if he somehow comes back to the test team. In all honesty, he's probably a better option than some of the guys in the team right now, but isn't having the greatest run of form himself.

 

[htariq25]

Insha Allah moeen bhai

 

[hadi123]

So there's only Bairstow who from more than one account, isn't particularly liked by the team, has even contributed to being at the margins of the ODI side, and is apparently too much of a loner to lead.

Where have you heard this?

 

[Markhor]

I wouldn't have appointed Joe Root in the first place. Your best player isn't necessarily the best captain and I don't see Root having the personality of a leader. He failed to go for the kill in Brisbane when Australia were 200-7 and he should've batted first in Adelaide. I also fear captaincy may detract from his batting.

Bairstow is the only one who you can hear encouraging his teammates and I think has the character to lead. Headbutt-gate was a non issue so that shouldn't prevent him from captaining - especially since demerit point king and bar brawler Stokes is vice captain.

 

[ExpressPacer]

I think Broad would have made a brilliant captain. But at 31 years old, and with only a few years left in the tank, the English will be a little too late now.

 

[HitWicket]

I think Broad would have made a brilliant captain. But at 31 years old, and with only a few years left in the tank, the English will be a little too late now.

Possibly a bit too emotional.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Possibly a bit too emotional.

Punter was an emotional captain, VK is an emotional captain; that doesn't mean they aren't any good. And anyway, with captaincy comes a lot of maturity. He comes from a cricketing family and people with a history in cricket have usually made good captains. Majid Khan, Imran Khan, Waughs, Flowers are all examples.

 

[Varun]

Punter was an emotional captain, VK is an emotional captain; that doesn't mean they aren't any good. And anyway, with captaincy comes a lot of maturity. He comes from a cricketing family and people with a history in cricket have usually made good captains. Majid Khan, Imran Khan, Waughs, Flowers are all examples.

Not sure about team unity with him around. Wasn't he implicated heavily in the fake Twitter account and didn't he have a reputation along with Swann and Bresnan for 'bullying' the likes of Trott and Bell when they misfielded?

That doesn't sound like a captain to me, him being a 30-something fast bowler in the first place notwithstanding.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Not sure about team unity with him around. Wasn't he implicated heavily in the fake Twitter account and didn't he have a reputation along with Swann and Bresnan for 'bullying' the likes of Trott and Bell when they misfielded?

That doesn't sound like a captain to me, him being a 30-something fast bowler in the first place notwithstanding.

I'm not aware of the bullying bit but I'm sure a bit of 'banter' is common amongst all team members.

And as I mentioned in my previous post, now it is too late so agree with that.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

The best leader who was groomed for future leadership of England was made to retire due to a cardiomyopathy. James Taylor was a natural leader who England could have flourished under in Tests at least. He would have been a permanent fixture by now.

Stokes, if keeps himself out of trouble can be a good leader.

Root is mellow and soft.

 

[Aman]

Root and Kane have flopped as captains, another aspect where they're trailing Smith and Kohli.

Their attitude is why they'll finish ATGs and these two will not.

 

[WengerOut]

Root. Even though they will be ambushed in Ashes , they will return to England , obliterate Pak and India and all will be rosy again .

 

[Varun]

Root. Even though they will be ambushed in Ashes , they will return to England , obliterate Pak and India and all will be rosy again .

Don't know about Pakistan, but I know full well that whoever is out of form will magically start piling on the runs when Ishant and Ashwin bowl at them - and all will be well until the next competitive series. Like the West Indies home or away.

 

[Varun]

Joe Root it is.

Must be a long time since an England captain skippered in Australia across 2 series. Strauss earlier in the decade couldn't even do it after a victorious 2010 campaign.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think Root is a good captain but result is not coming under him.

It is not like other players are any better. I think Root should continue.

Alternatively, Stokes can be the captain.

 

[James]

Root is potentially taking part in his last series as captain right now, and Stokes is already getting overwhelmed by the workloads and expectations that are associated with him.

The captaincy will probably soon pass to Jos Buttler by default.

Either that or they could do a “young rebuilding job captain” who will be given carte blanche for five years and a long rope to see if he can steadily get things going in the right direction again, like Ollie Pope.

 

[Officer Barbrady]

Should have taken the gamble on Butler a couple of years ago. Root is an ordinary captain

 

[sweep_shot]

Should have taken the gamble on Butler a couple of years ago. Root is an ordinary captain

Butler's place in Test is not guaranteed (he is a LOI player primarily). How can he be the captain?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Bairstow

) a guy whose a Hack in red ball cricket and not worth place in the team.

 

[James]

Butler's place in Test is not guaranteed (he is a LOI player primarily). How can he be the captain?

I’d say Jos is close to being an automatic pick in Test cricket now. Not because he is a world class Test batter or wicketkeeper, or an MVP or anything. Like you say he is an LOI specialist, and at best in Tests he is slightly above average. It’s more because the ECB have decided that Jos is “their guy” and they have resolutely, consciously ignored all of the other English talent in the wicketkeeper-batter position wherever possible for the last 2-3 years. Plus Foakes has been very unlucky with injuries.

 

[Unbiased-Fan]

Rory Burns is their captain in line after Root and Stokes. He just needs to bat decently in next few series. England don't have any decent openers makes his case even more easy.

 

[shamaan]

Buttler and Basitrow should not be captain I would make Stokes captain

 

[TeymurBlake]

They might have to look outside the box, I can see a few of the automatic picks, maybe focusing on red ball cricket. Joe Root, will probably take a step back but Ben Stokes, doesn't want the responsibility, Jos Buttler could focus on white-ball cricket, Bairstow's form isn't good and he's not in the team either, Malan isn't a captain type. Burns, Pope and Hameed are so far inconsistent and two have yet to stamp there authority on the team.

Broad and Anderson are near the ends of there careers, whereas Ollie Robinson is still relatively new in the setup, Woakes will make way for Archer and Wood's workload is being managed.... so basically.... No idea.

 

[James]

They might have to look outside the box, I can see a few of the automatic picks, maybe focusing on red ball cricket. Joe Root, will probably take a step back but Ben Stokes, doesn't want the responsibility, Jos Buttler could focus on white-ball cricket, Bairstow's form isn't good and he's not in the team either, Malan isn't a captain type. Burns, Pope and Hameed are so far inconsistent and two have yet to stamp there authority on the team.

Broad and Anderson are near the ends of there careers, whereas Ollie Robinson is still relatively new in the setup, Woakes will make way for Archer and Wood's workload is being managed.... so basically.... No idea.

The agony of choice!

 

[Robert]

Still Root probably. There’s nobody else. Promoting Stokes would blow him up with stress, kill the golden goose. Burns is Surrey skipper but finding his way in tests. Buttler shouldn’t even be playing tests. Broad is 35.

 

[James]

Still Root probably. There’s nobody else. Promoting Stokes would blow him up with stress, kill the golden goose. Burns is Surrey skipper but finding his way in tests. Buttler shouldn’t even be playing tests. Broad is 35.

Broad could be a 3-year stop gap whilst the England Test setup gets its house in order. Constant batting collapses from a hopelessly inept lineup, poor tactics, no practice, no planning, one off being rock bottom of the World Test Championship table. Things are looking very bad at the moment and big change is needed.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

It will be Root for the foreseeable future. There are no other candidates and recently it doesn't seem to have affected his batting too much. Buttler is an option but I think he will get the LOI captaincy after Morgan leaves and his team form is a bit sketchy.

They could consider someone a left field candidate like Sam Billings. He captains Kent occasionally, has considerable international experience and can keep wicket. It would allow England to either punt Buttler from the test team or play him as a specialist batter.

 

[Robert]

Broad could be a 3-year stop gap whilst the England Test setup gets its house in order. Constant batting collapses from a hopelessly inept lineup, poor tactics, no practice, no planning, one off being rock bottom of the World Test Championship table. Things are looking very bad at the moment and big change is needed.

Broad up to age 38 is a big ask. Most batters don’t go on that long, let alone bowlers, and A&B have already kept young bowlers from developing for too long IMO.

I don’t know. Changing the skipper won’t fix the structural issues in the County game which render it unable to produce test batters. Or the nonsense scheduling which drops tour of Pakistan and agrees to Ashes tours with no meaningful practice.

Root and branch change in the ECB is the way forward. Meaningful four day schedule, move the Hundred and T20 froux-froux to be back of the season. Bring back fliers and bunsens instead of uniform low slow seamer tracks.

 

[James]

Broad up to age 38 is a big ask. Most batters don’t go on that long, let alone bowlers, and A&B have already kept young bowlers from developing for too long IMO.

I don’t know. Changing the skipper won’t fix the structural issues in the County game which render it unable to produce test batters. Or the nonsense scheduling which drops tour of Pakistan and agrees to Ashes tours with no meaningful practice.

Root and branch change in the ECB is the way forward. Meaningful four day schedule, move the Hundred and T20 froux-froux to be back of the season. Bring back fliers and bunsens instead of uniform low slow seamer tracks.

Those suggestions are as good as I have at the moment!

 

[mastimasti]

Broad up to age 38 is a big ask. Most batters don’t go on that long, let alone bowlers, and A&B have already kept young bowlers from developing for too long IMO.

I don’t know. Changing the skipper won’t fix the structural issues in the County game which render it unable to produce test batters. Or the nonsense scheduling which drops tour of Pakistan and agrees to Ashes tours with no meaningful practice.

Root and branch change in the ECB is the way forward. Meaningful four day schedule, move the Hundred and T20 froux-froux to be back of the season. Bring back fliers and bunsens instead of uniform low slow seamer tracks.

I could not agree more!

The championship is now played at the worst time of the year, to make space for The Blast and now The Hundred.

I am all for increased attendance and TV revenue but the game has become both hidden behind a pay wall, thus losing national interest and now, the most important aspect of the game, test cricket has become irrelevant to the players themselves. We are watching probably the worst England batting attack of all time and a mediocre bowling unit at best.