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Eoin Morgan’s 33-ball 66 helps England to victory in 2nd T20I against Pakistan

Too many balls 145 kph plus from Haris and Shaheen but poor lengths and lines.
 
Rauf can be a good limited overs bowler.
Not sure of his development under waqar and misbah though.
 
Bois played well. Win or loss is part of game. Same usual coming from M I S B A H Sir.
 
Teams batting second have won 5 out of 9 till now with 3 washed off
 
Malan is a very ordinary player. Never looks in control really

Malan is good. I've seen him play for a number of years a clean hitter of the ball. Has a gun record in T20. Check out his average and record. And he isn't even first choice in England's top T20 starting eleven
 
gg England. Pakistan’s last SENA win in any format (minus World Cup) was in South Africa last year. Wow wow wow.
 
This was definitely 200+ wicket. 10-15 runs more would have made huge difference. Malik and Ifti batted poorly and need to be dropped for Haider and Khushdil.

Also need to drop drama queen Amir for good, so that he can focus on leagues around the world.
 
Dawid Malan in T20Is:

12 innings
12 double-figure scores
7 fifty-plus scores
54.50 average

The most consistent T20I player in the world?
 
Dawid Malan in T20Is:

12 innings
12 double-figure scores
7 fifty-plus scores
54.50 average

The most consistent T20I player in the world?

Lot of players start great but get figured out later. I think Malan will too
 
As long as we have Shoaib, Hafeez and Ifti in the team we are going nowhere.

Hafeez and Shoaib were average bits and pieces players in their prime yet now in the team as specialist batsmen both aged 40.

Go figure.

Well done Misbah.
 
Pakistan in T20Is since Jan 2019
Lost
Lost
Won vs SA
Lost
Lost
Lost
Lost
Nr
Lost
Lost
Won vs BAN
Won vs BAN
Nr
Lost
Only 3 wins in 14 matches.
 
Malik 11 ball 14
Iftikar ahmed 9 ball 8*

Combined 20 ball 22
Pak lost the game there

Do you guys agree with me?
 
Shaheen was doing fine until Misbah and Waqar came over.
 
Another weekend ruined by Pakistan.

Lol, don't let it ruin your weekend. It's just t20. Also I have been used to seeing Pakistan lose so much so I don't care anymore.

Just gonna play some video games and chill now. Have a good weekend and don't let pakistan affect you!
 
Since 2019 WC (and coaching reboot), Pak haven't won a match in any format they weren't heavy favourites for.

All wins have come at home against SL and B'desh, defeats include a home 3-0 T20 reverse vs SL, while away series vs Aus and Eng haven't produced a single win. #ENGvPAK
 
This is how foolish Misbah is, he knows Amir had been off the pitch too long to bowl again, yet he sent him out!
 
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This is the highest target chased down by any team against Pakistan in T20Is. Top-5 in the list:-

196 - by ENG at Manchester, today
192 - by AUS at Gros Islet, 2010
175 - by World XI at Lahore, 2017
174 - by ENG at Cardiff, 2019
169 - by NZ at Hamilton, 2016
 
Shaheen was doing fine until Misbah and Waqar came over.

Yeah Misbah broke his wrist which makes difficult for him to keep the seem upright and Waqar hit him on the knee so that he doesn't develop a momentum while running.
 
Malik 11 ball 14
Iftikar ahmed 9 ball 8*

Combined 20 ball 22
Pak lost the game there

Do you guys agree with me?

More to this game then a few deliveries being eaten up. Poor bowling and lack of captaincy comes to mind.
 
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I believe Malik was 14 off 11 deliveries, easy to criticise but he was playing while Hafeez was going gun-ho, he did the right thing and passed strike to Hafeez.

I take your point though.

His overall average in England is around 15 so that was about par.
 
Shocking bowling by Pakistan. Our players lack serious IQ it seems especially in terms of micro-management of the situation. They need to go back to the drawing board and learn how to manage situations on an intellectual level before putting into practice. The capitulation was shocking to see.

To see Misbah having a panic attack also indicates he’s not good enough to be our coach especially in the shorter formats. How on earth can a coach have their head buried in their hands for the majority of the game. The coach needs to be level headed should be providing support and technical insight into their players.
That was shambolic and grossly unprofessional!!!
 
Disgraceful body language from Misbah, even when things are going wrong you need to keep your emotions in check, so embarrassing from the coach of a international team
 
Time for the presentation now and first up is Pakistan captain BABAR AZAM...

"Our total was good but we didn't bowl well, we struggled with our bowling. Credit goes to Malan and Morgan for how well they played. We'll learn a lot from this series, under pressure I need to handle the bowlers and tell them a few things, I will try to improve that in the next series."
 
Shaheen is 20 years old, he’s been playing non stop for nearly 2 months, the poor guy is knackered physically and mentally, couple that with the worst coaching team in world cricket, disaster!
 
Look man, I don’t care of your vendetta against Amir, but take that someplace else.

I’m more worried about our ‘rising star’, that has a massive Mohammad Sami-syndrome when attacked. A decent bowler responds well under pressure, while Shaheen has shown the ability to completely wilt when the going gets tough. Don’t want to see another bowler disintegrate his career completely, due to an aspect that is not picked up by the management until its just too late.

Mohammad Sami never got 16 wickets in a World Cup.

You pick up on every moment where he bowls a couple of bad overs and extrapolate that to show that he wilts under pressure. He has bowled well in crucial situations in all formats and in PSL.
 
Mohammad Sami never got 16 wickets in a World Cup.

You pick up on every moment where he bowls a couple of bad overs and extrapolate that to show that he wilts under pressure. He has bowled well in crucial situations in all formats and in PSL.
Unfortunately, those 'bad overs' have been quite a common occurrence throughout his career.

Also I'm miffed about the fact that Shaheen ALWAYS escapes criticism, while every other young bowler having a bad day has his career torn apart by fans here.
 
Yeah Misbah broke his wrist which makes difficult for him to keep the seem upright and Waqar hit him on the knee so that he doesn't develop a momentum while running.

Stick to lurking bro because sarcasm doesn't suit you.
 
Unfortunately, those ‘bad overs’ have been quite a common occurrence throughout his career.

Also I’m miffed about the fact that Shaheen ALWAYS escapes criticism, while every other young bowler having a bad day has his career torn apart by fans here.

You were here before the World Cup. I’m sure you saw the bloodbath when people were calling him overrated and rubbish.

They are going easy now because he had a very good year. Excellent World Cup, followed by good performances in almost every series after that, didn’t look out of place in his first tour of Australia either, and an outstanding PSL.
 
Mohammad Hafeez speaking at end of the 2nd T20I:

"We were aiming for 175 looking at the state of the pitch and the start we got but we managed to get 195 but its disappointing to have not won the game"

"Its challenging and we have to win the last game whatever happens; We have been here for 2 months and all our preparations have been good"

"But today we had a good start but the fact is that unless you win the game, there is no satisfaction at all"

"So looking forward to the challenge in 2 days time where we will expect to play our A game and win the match"
 
Unfortunately, those 'bad overs' have been quite a common occurrence throughout his career.

Also I'm miffed about the fact that Shaheen ALWAYS escapes criticism, while every other young bowler having a bad day has his career torn apart by fans here.

First it was Rizwan and now it's Shaheen. Lets also not forget "I'll pick Faheem any day over Pandya". Y

Not only do you have a habit of picking on the best players but also inflating those who are utter crap.
 
Shocking bowling by Pakistan. Our players lack serious IQ it seems especially in terms of micro-management of the situation. They need to go back to the drawing board and learn how to manage situations on an intellectual level before putting into practice. The capitulation was shocking to see.

To see Misbah having a panic attack also indicates he’s not good enough to be our coach especially in the shorter formats. How on earth can a coach have their head buried in their hands for the majority of the game. The coach needs to be level headed should be providing support and technical insight into their players.
That was shambolic and grossly unprofessional!!!

What happened
 
Unfortunately, those 'bad overs' have been quite a common occurrence throughout his career.

Also I'm miffed about the fact that Shaheen ALWAYS escapes criticism, while every other young bowler having a bad day has his career torn apart by fans here.

Questioning an established veteran who goes missing when hit is vendetta but abusing a young 20 year old newcomer is not. The hypocrisy is nauseating

I love you question Shaheen escaping criticism but ignore Amir escaping and even call out genuine criticism of his as vendetta
 
What did he do

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wasim Akram "The head in his hands wasn’t the best sign from the coach. OK the team and the bowlers are getting hammered but body language is so important for any coach. It doesn’t matter what the situation is, it’s his job to be positive. At least look positive" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a> <a href="https://t.co/ruQL7JQvbN">pic.twitter.com/ruQL7JQvbN</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1300120914433114115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Morgan on song is unstoppable, he has done this to the best attacks in the world, his improvization and the way he finds gaps and plays impossible shots to good deliveries is unreal. The shots he was playing to full blooded yorkers would have been singles or dot balls against our batsmen, such is the skill and talent gap.
 
A third rate XI team smashing Pakistani bowlers all over the park!! England are not playing their top players; this is their 3rd grade team. Yet, we are getting hammered.

As I have said many times before, Pakistan has been a minnow in cricket for around a decade. The sooner Pakistani fans accept it, the better!

Who got the runs? Bairstow, Malan, Morgan. They are all part of Englands best xi. Yes even Malan! Guy averages almost 50 with a 150 strike rate.

England is looking at the following xi as their best side:

1. Roy
2. Bairstow
3. Malan
4. Morgan
5. Stokes
6. Butler
7. Moeen
8. Woakes
9. Jordan
10. Rashid
11. Archer
 
You were here before the World Cup. I’m sure you saw the bloodbath when people were calling him overrated and rubbish.

They are going easy now because he had a very good year. Excellent World Cup, followed by good performances in almost every series after that, didn’t look out of place in his first tour of Australia either, and an outstanding PSL.
I think he should be called out if he bowls like this to be fair. We are agreeing to disagree, but I believe he has an issue where he loses his head once the batsmen go after him. Better realize this before it gets worse, as he is young and has the skills to perform well under pressure.

With regards to going easy on him, not at all acceptable. When it's not acceptable for certain players, there should not be another rule for someone else. Shaheen has been instrumental in match-losing efforts in the past couple of weeks, and he should be called out on it.
 
England’s bench is so deep these days. Missing Roy, Buttler, Stokes, arguably Root and they still walked that big target.
 
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Questioning an established veteran who goes missing when hit is vendetta but abusing a young 20 year old newcomer is not. The hypocrisy is nauseating

I love you question Shaheen escaping criticism but ignore Amir escaping and even call out genuine criticism of his as vendetta
I personally don't believe Amir will be put up with much longer. He is still a smart bowler, but his lack of pace goes against him.

Amir has been criticized quite a bit, so I'm not where you get the 'escaping criticism' part.
 
Misbah - The board have grossly miscalculated in appointing him as saviour of Pakistan cricket
Babar - Great batsmen, but not captain material
Waqar - Poor coach with disastrous previous record

Our cricket has been the victim of politics. Each Government insists on having their own team within the PCB and as a result work done over past 3-4 years goes down the drain and we start from scratch each time. As a result our team has been in the "Building phase" for the past two decades.

Mickey's team was performing much better than the current team and before that Moshin Khan's team did better than Mickey's.

Players like Ifthikar/Shoaib/Imad must be dropped as their level at present is that of a club cricketer at best. We need serious coaches with experience and good track record. Lastly PCB is to be made a non-political entity.
 
Misbah - The board have grossly miscalculated in appointing him as saviour of Pakistan cricket
Babar - Great batsmen, but not captain material
Waqar - Poor coach with disastrous previous record

Our cricket has been the victim of politics. Each Government insists on having their own team within the PCB and as a result work done over past 3-4 years goes down the drain and we start from scratch each time. As a result our team has been in the "Building phase" for the past two decades.

Mickey's team was performing much better than the current team and before that Moshin Khan's team did better than Mickey's.

Players like Ifthikar/Shoaib/Imad must be dropped as their level at present is that of a club cricketer at best. We need serious coaches with experience and good track record. Lastly PCB is to be made a non-political entity.

So, to avoid the building phase again. How would you suggest transitioning Misbah’s team out?
 
The only way would be to go back to Mickey which for obvious reasons can't and won't happen hence we have no option but to re-start again.

However it is clear that Misbah is not the answer - his style of captaining may have brought success in test matches but there was no thought on progression or the future not to mention destroying our ODI/T20 cricket. His style of coaching/selection is the same which has been evident over the summer.

We need to find a reputable person who has previous international experience of coaching and let them build the team from where Mickey left it.
 
its a brainletbash game but honestly there is no excuse for pakistan to be this bad at cricket
im white british and i dont really know anyone who likes cricket

this is your only sport and pakistan is hardly a poor country in terms of PPP. sort it out lads. you are surely way better than this
 
Who got the runs? Bairstow, Malan, Morgan. They are all part of Englands best xi. Yes even Malan! Guy averages almost 50 with a 150 strike rate.

England is looking at the following xi as their best side:

1. Roy
2. Bairstow
3. Malan
4. Morgan
5. Stokes
6. Butler
7. Moeen
8. Woakes
9. Jordan
10. Rashid
11. Archer

again i have said this many times before. Englund are vastly overrated. They are very good in flat pattas. The moment there is turn or bounce on any wickets all their players are sitting ducks.

On flat wickets in england they are obviously strong there.
 
Who got the runs? Bairstow, Malan, Morgan. They are all part of Englands best xi. Yes even Malan! Guy averages almost 50 with a 150 strike rate.

England is looking at the following xi as their best side:

1. Roy
2. Bairstow
3. Malan
4. Morgan
5. Stokes
6. Butler
7. Moeen
8. Woakes
9. Jordan
10. Rashid
11. Archer

But half of their top players - Butler, Woakes and Stokes - are sitting outside!
 
You were here before the World Cup. I’m sure you saw the bloodbath when people were calling him overrated and rubbish.

They are going easy now because he had a very good year. Excellent World Cup, followed by good performances in almost every series after that, didn’t look out of place in his first tour of Australia either, and an outstanding PSL.

Pretty much this. Shaheen was the most impactful PAK bowler at the World Cup and was the best test pacer in Australia and that's why he gets some leeway
 
Malik 11 ball 14
Iftikar ahmed 9 ball 8*

Combined 20 ball 22
Pak lost the game there

Do you guys agree with me?

Indeed when I said those 15-20 balls had haider faced would have scored 15 ball 30 or a 20 ball 40 for sure. Someone asked is he that good or world class lol. Seen him bat in PSL he plays his own natural game even wickets keep falling from the other end and keeps the scoreboard. Only coaches like Misbah and Waqar can keep Haider like batsman in the bench after seeing how he played in the PSL.

Rmb MA who has a lot of emphasis on fitness but fast tracked Sharjeel even to the tests , that shows the mindset of a coach who understands the modern day of batting dominated cricket world.

I will never expect such things from Misbah or Waqar because they have poor eye for talent. PSL franchises have better eye to scout for talents which is how Haider came into existence
 
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