"Everyone has their own opinion, but you cannot say that I am selfish": Babar Azam

[MenInG]

Babar Azam speaking to the press:

Statement by Shoaib Malik and others about Babar's captaincy

"I believe its time to put an end to such kind of statements - in every press conference the same is said that nothing is in my hands; But as you can all see on the field that I am the one who handles everything and the final XI is made based on my advice and recommendations; I do ask the management for advice and input when needed; I know my role as captain"


Openers in Tests

"We will back them as much as we can - We have Abid Ali who is very experienced and Imran Butt who has had only 2-3 matches or so; The more we back our openers, the better it will be for us; The idea is not to put any pressure on the openers and to allow them to play their natural game, freely"

"Younis Bhai is trying to explain and the players are also understanding what he says but sometimes all the players don't perform all the time; Its a honour for us that such a big name player is our batting coach and we are learning a lot from him; As a player one knows how to recover from a patch where my performances are not good; You need to know if you have to change your mindset or technique to do that"


Some people say Babar is selfish if he doesn't perform in one game

"Everyone has their own opinion, but you cannot say that I am selfish; What can be said is that I play according to requirements of the team; Sometimes you need to speed up and sometimes you need to plan out your innings; If we are struggling then I change my game a litte to adjust to that situation which can seem selfish to people but idea is to play as per needs of the team and to play to the end, and to make sure that the team total is a good one; So everyone has their own opinion and I don't think much about it"


"I do tell my batsmen to not do things in a haste and end the match in a way that doesn't give too much stress to us"

 

[marlonbrowndo]

I’ve criticized Babar even recently but he is not selfish at all. People saying that are clueless.

 

[Sir-fraz]

Babar Azam speaking to the press:

Statement by Shoaib Malik and others about Babar's captaincy

"I believe its time to put an end to such kind of statements - in every press conference the same is said that nothing is in my hands; But as you can all see on the field that I am the one who handles everything and the final XI is made based on my advice and recommendations; I do ask the management for advice and input when needed; I know my role as captain"


Openers in Tests

"We will back them as much as we can - We have Abid Ali who is very experienced and Imran Butt who has had only 2-3 matches or so; The more we back our openers, the better it will be for us; The idea is not to put any pressure on the openers and to allow them to play their natural game, freely"

"Younis Bhai is trying to explain and the players are also understanding what he says but sometimes all the players don't perform all the time; Its a honour for us that such a big name player is our batting coach and we are learning a lot from him; As a player one knows how to recover from a patch where my performances are not good; You need to know if you have to change your mindset or technique to do that"


Some people say Babar is selfish if he doesn't perform in one game

"Everyone has their own opinion, but you cannot say that I am selfish; What can be said is that I play according to requirements of the team; Sometimes you need to speed up and sometimes you need to plan out your innings; If we are struggling then I change my game a litte to adjust to that situation which can seem selfish to people but idea is to play as per needs of the team and to play to the end, and to make sure that the team total is a good one; So everyone has their own opinion and I don't think much about it"


"I do tell my batsmen to not do things in a haste and end the match in a way that doesn't give too much stress to us"

Same statements, i guess it could be babar selecting the 11 ill give him the benefit of doubt. That just clearly shows his lack of cricket IQ, shoveling haider around in the middle order when he sbouldve opened all matches vs zimbawe.

Playing asif ali over and over again. Dropping a players after one match. Playing full strength team vs literally a club team.

I dont see much happening in babars captaincy stint.

There is zero direction, when Kohli came to the helm he had one goal to create a fast bowling culture in india and the team which he did.

Babar has even said, i want to create a modern team that plays without fear. But has Not acted on his statement. The purpose for Zim tour is to select new players and test them out.

Looks like we wont do that either...

 

[Ahmed216]

Yes Abid Ali has been a walking wicket against half decent bowling coz he's been playing unnaturally. Once he starts playing naturally he'll turn into a run making machine.

 

[Omer2002]

well as expected that guarantees Abid Ali & Imran Butt as openers and Abdullah Shafique and Saud Shakeel can wait to play against Australia.......

 

[Zeshan547]

well as expected that guarantees Abid Ali & Imran Butt as openers and Abdullah Shafique and Saud Shakeel can wait to play against Australia.......

Can't say I am surprised, Babar you may not be selfish buddy but you sure is clueless captain mate, you don't even realize how much important you are, if push come to shove PCB heads can't choose misbah over you, so just man up and create a Team for future if you want to have lasting legacy. Otherwise these token and cliché statements matter zilch.

 

[UzmanBeast]

I wouldn't take it out on Babar's captaincy because Misbah has still reserved the power to decide the playing XIs.

This has been said in multiple interviews, and it is clear the management doesn't want to give the reigns to Babar Azam.

Pathetic stuff from Misbah.

 

[Zeshan547]

I wouldn't take it out on Babar's captaincy because Misbah has still reserved the power to decide the playing XIs.

This has been said in multiple interviews, and it is clear the management doesn't want to give the reigns to Babar Azam.

Pathetic stuff from Misbah.

But babar at this stage of his Carter can exert his presence and get the player he wants and if they don't listen he can expose them in media and to higher ups in PCB. He is too important to ignore.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Babar should realize that he has this country at his feet right now. He can have the ultimate authority on everything cricket related if he wants. Oh the things I would do if I was in his position.

 

[Savak]

Babar is one of the very rare players we have who adjusts his batting to the pitch and situation. He is not perfect but I won't say selfish. Definitely needs to win more games with the bat to get more adulation and respect

 

[Mamoon]

Babar Azam is not a leader. It couldn’t be more evident.

 

[IMMY69]

The irony is that my coach would always tell me to be selfish. To make sure I play myself in and then once set to make sure I get big runs.

How the game or at least the outlook has changed

 

[shamaan]

Saud shakeel should have played against zimbabawe poor decision.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

It’s just a tag people like to attach when they have no other legitimate criticism but still wanna hate.

Ahmed Shehzad went through same things like being called selfish lol

 

[daytrader]

Babar should realize that he has this country at his feet right now. He can have the ultimate authority on everything cricket related if he wants. Oh the things I would do if I was in his position.

But why though? His only goal should be to score runs and be the greatest ATG from Pakistan. An achievement like that will inspire generations to come.Captaincy never bodes well for anyone in PCT. If the team doesn't perform in a major tournament, the same fans and media will be asking for him to resign. It's possible he won't be the same run making machine after captaincy. Babar is too important for us he cannot get derailed

 

[daytrader]

But babar at this stage of his Carter can exert his presence and get the player he wants and if they don't listen he can expose them in media and to higher ups in PCB. He is too important to ignore.

I agree he's too important, that's why he should not be involved in the politics of selection. Don't want him to lose focus from scoring runs

 

[Tabishbeigh]

I lost interest the moment it was mentioned that Abid Ali would be backed. Terrible terrible game awareness from Pakistani chief selector and management.

 

[PakPremi]

I lost interest the moment it was mentioned that Abid Ali would be backed. Terrible terrible game awareness from Pakistani chief selector and management.

Once selected for tour it is obvious Abid and Imran will be given more opportunities. I'm surprised you or anyone else did not think they be playing the first test.

 

[UzmanBeast]

But babar at this stage of his Carter can exert his presence and get the player he wants and if they don't listen he can expose them in media and to higher ups in PCB. He is too important to ignore.

Agreed, he needs to develop a spine.

Surprised that PCB haven't taken action against Misbah.

This mindset that senior players deserve the utmost respect is baffling, Pakistan was arguably one of the worst white-ball teams under Misbah's captaincy.

 

[Zeshan547]

Once selected for tour it is obvious Abid and Imran will be given more opportunities. I'm surprised you or anyone else did not think they be playing the first test.

The sad thing is even if Abid score 500 total runs in these 4 innings it prove zilch, we have seen enough of him that he is no long term option vs any half decent bowling, such a waste of space. And to make things worse we have another tailender to partner him in shape of Imran butt, but atleast he is only playing his second series and can make team for his slip fielding alone, but he too is a luxury which team like ours can't afford vs better teams. I don't think anyone will be surprised if we are 10/2 even vs this mighty zim bowling, that's the caliber of our openers.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

The sad thing is even if Abid score 500 total runs in these 4 innings it prove zilch, we have seen enough of him that he is no long term option vs any half decent bowling, such a waste of space. And to make things worse we have another tailender to partner him in shape of Imran butt, but atleast he is only playing his second series and can make team for his slip fielding alone, but he too is a luxury which team like ours can't afford vs better teams. I don't think anyone will be surprised if we are 10/2 even vs this mighty zim bowling, that's the caliber of our openers.

Muzarabani isn't a bad bowler, so yeah 10/2 is a realistic possibility

 

[Major]

Babar admitted he makes 11

No point of arguing now

 

[Tabishbeigh]

Well , that is the problem at the beginning of each series we start expecting good from these coaches and selectors. While misbah (mishap) did make Pakistani boys behave well he actually killed off the process of strengthening your bench. This is precisely why Pakistan has a miserable middle order, a ever existing weak top order now not even decent spinners.

 

[PakLFC]

Please be selfish by scoring plenty of runs for Pak

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Babar isn't selfish. He may be end coming short via his limitations but he is far from selfish. People need to come out of stick cricket mindset of a boundary every ball.

Our test squads since 2019 have been some of the worst in our history and the test squad for this series in particular might take the cake for being the worst ever.

The weakest position(openers) have only one other choice who himself has played only a solitary fc match. Plenty of options in the middle order which is already jam packed.
2 uncapped spinners(and one of them averaging in mid 30s) waiting to get a go alongside the *senior* spinner with 2 test matches under his belt.
5 pacers for 2 spots, out of which 2 of them haven't played more than 10(maybe lesser than that) fc matches, and one (38) year might have already been past his due date.

 

[azzammasood]

If unnaturally means playing balls on merit

 

[Coolcapri]

Same statements, i guess it could be babar selecting the 11 ill give him the benefit of doubt. That just clearly shows his lack of cricket IQ, shoveling haider around in the middle order when he sbouldve opened all matches vs zimbawe.

Playing asif ali over and over again. Dropping a players after one match. Playing full strength team vs literally a club team.

I dont see much happening in babars captaincy stint.

There is zero direction, when Kohli came to the helm he had one goal to create a fast bowling culture in india and the team which he did.

Babar has even said, i want to create a modern team that plays without fear. But has Not acted on his statement. The purpose for Zim tour is to select new players and test them out.

Looks like we wont do that either...

Give him some time, he just started as captain, He will get better.

 

[Zeshan547]

Babar isn't selfish. He may be end coming short via his limitations but he is far from selfish. People need to come out of stick cricket mindset of a boundary every ball.

Our test squads since 2019 have been some of the worst in our history and the test squad for this series in particular might take the cake for being the worst ever.

The weakest position(openers) have only one other choice who himself has played only a solitary fc match. Plenty of options in the middle order which is already jam packed.
2 uncapped spinners(and one of them averaging in mid 30s) waiting to get a go alongside the *senior* spinner with 2 test matches under his belt.
5 pacers for 2 spots, out of which 2 of them haven't played more than 10(maybe lesser than that) fc matches, and one (38) year might have already been past his due date.

Interestingly our problem is complete opposite in test as compared to LOIs, where our top 4 are set in both ODI and T20, But no 5 and 6 sucks, were as
in test, Azhar, babar, fawad, saud / Harris and 7 Rizwan, are as good a middle order as you can get, but two tailender at top mean we will remain mediocre, our batting can be top level in all formats of we can solve these two issues, for LOIs we can try, Malik and Imad for time being and for test we have to try some middle order batsman like Kamran ghulam and Usman salahudin as opener or push one of them at 3 with Azhar opening.

 

[Sir-fraz]

Give him some time, he just started as captain, He will get better.

There are some players when given time dont get better at leadership... babar is clearly one of those players, hes not a leader, has never shown any leadership qualities since he started

Just let this guy bat, he cant make quick decisions on field and looking for help.

On top of that he is not ruthless enough as a captain and player.

His playing eleven has always had one of misbahs friends playing. If he had any power or brains what so ever this wouldnt be happening.

His own selections have been terrible. He knows how to bat, but he clearly lacks cricket IQ.

 

[CleverSir]

There are some players when given time dont get better at leadership... babar is clearly one of those players, hes not a leader, has never shown any leadership qualities since he started

Just let this guy bat, he cant make quick decisions on field and looking for help.

On top of that he is not ruthless enough as a captain and player.

His playing eleven has always had one of misbahs friends playing. If he had any power or brains what so ever this wouldnt be happening.

His own selections have been terrible. He knows how to bat, but he clearly lacks cricket IQ.

So far he has captained 29 matches (Zim first test is his 30th) and has won 19, lost 7, tied 1, no result 2. You want to discard him when he is off to a winning start? An overwhelmingly big winning start? You'll argue it is the opposition, well he doesn't get to pick the opposition and you still have to play and win against even the weaker teams. You'll say he doesn't have a say in selection, well none of us are in the team meetings. He says he has a say, I'll believe the man.

So far he's earned the right to continue as captain.

 

[globalcitizen]

Players who have a role in team to stabilise and graft in top order should not be termed as selfish. With a iffy middle order he is doing perfect job and with consistency. Those hoping him to hit out recklessly don't understand game situations

 

[Sir-fraz]

So far he has captained 29 matches (Zim first test is his 30th) and has won 19, lost 7, tied 1, no result 2. You want to discard him when he is off to a winning start? An overwhelmingly big winning start? You'll argue it is the opposition, well he doesn't get to pick the opposition and you still have to play and win against even the weaker teams. You'll say he doesn't have a say in selection, well none of us are in the team meetings. He says he has a say, I'll believe the man.

So far he's earned the right to continue as captain.

Yea put context to those wins, we have only played minows and SA B team...

And i aleady said in a post above, lets say he does have selection powers. That doesnt change anything. He hasnt played haider at opening, playing asif ali and ifti over and over again seems off. He has played his friend usman qadir etc.. vs this Zim team we wouldve been playing 5 seamers and tested out the new fast bowlers.

Like i said either his cricket iq is low and or he is selfish and only cares about his batting stats and winning %.

When we shoule be rebuilding and focusing in the upcoming world cups....

 

[Firebat]

He's been in fine touch today, a fantastic innings for Pakistan - reaching 91 (96).

Then he scored 9 from his next 13 to get the century, at the death of the innings. Is this a purposeful habit of his?

 

[FearlessRoar]

Former Pakistan cricket Director Mohammad Hafeez told a local Pakistan media outlet:

"It took me about two months to convince Babar Azam that you have to do it for Pakistan, and you are not the first one who's doing it. You are a great player, a wonderful player, and you are playing great cricket. However, you have to develop the Pakistan team. You and Rizwan are very good players, excellent players, but you are not the whole team. We need to develop a team, and for that, I want you to come at number 3 because you have been playing this role in ODI cricket for the last six years, so it won't affect you; technically, you are very solid."

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Former Pakistan cricket Director Mohammad Hafeez told a local Pakistan media outlet:

"It took me about two months to convince Babar Azam that you have to do it for Pakistan, and you are not the first one who's doing it. You are a great player, a wonderful player, and you are playing great cricket. However, you have to develop the Pakistan team. You and Rizwan are very good players, excellent players, but you are not the whole team. We need to develop a team, and for that, I want you to come at number 3 because you have been playing this role in ODI cricket for the last six years, so it won't affect you; technically, you are very solid."

I don't know why we give so much authority to players that a director needs to convince him to change his batting position. Can this be tolerated in other cricketing countries?

 

[sweep_shot]

I don't think Babar is selfish. It is just that he is very textbook-ish. He is like Joe Root of Pakistan.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Babar needs to learn that the team should come first. He is one of the greatest players of Pakistan but if Hafeez is right in what he said that it took him 2 months to convince him to play down the order for his team then this is a problem. Babr thinks he is bigger than the country? I guess this is not the case here, Babar is not selfish but maybe they were afraid that the change in the batting order might hurt team as well because they were not doing that good in the middle order and down.

 

[Asif321]

Well well . It’s clear today

 

[Rana]

Oh no

He isn’t selfish..

 

[mominsaigol]

Yes he clearly was thinking about his team when he demanded all format captaincy.

Watch he will 100% bring him onto open.

I'm not surprised though, he is an akmal drama bazi after all.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Babar Azam in a recent podcast addressed the criticism on his strike rate:

"Look, strike rate and building an innings, as well as winning a match, are distinct matters. When you win a match, both aspects are addressed. It's a gradual process, understanding how to approach the first six overs and the subsequent ones. I am well aware of my cricketing abilities, knowing precisely what adjustments I need to make. The critical factor is the situation; if it permits, I'll play freely,"

"Sometimes, it's perplexing; critics will argue it (strike rate) should be 170 when it's 150, and if I play at 170, they'll demand 200. Every player has their unique style, and I refrain from comparisons,"

 

[Rana]

Babar Azam in a recent podcast addressed the criticism on his strike rate:

"Look, strike rate and building an innings, as well as winning a match, are distinct matters. When you win a match, both aspects are addressed. It's a gradual process, understanding how to approach the first six overs and the subsequent ones. I am well aware of my cricketing abilities, knowing precisely what adjustments I need to make. The critical factor is the situation; if it permits, I'll play freely,"

"Sometimes, it's perplexing; critics will argue it (strike rate) should be 170 when it's 150, and if I play at 170, they'll demand 200. Every player has their unique style, and I refrain from comparisons,"

What’s he trying to say?

That he is playing the right way but people will just never be satisfied with him? Is he the modern day Misbah ul Haq now?

 

[mominsaigol]

Babar Azam in a recent podcast addressed the criticism on his strike rate:

"Look, strike rate and building an innings, as well as winning a match, are distinct matters. When you win a match, both aspects are addressed. It's a gradual process, understanding how to approach the first six overs and the subsequent ones. I am well aware of my cricketing abilities, knowing precisely what adjustments I need to make. The critical factor is the situation; if it permits, I'll play freely,"

"Sometimes, it's perplexing; critics will argue it (strike rate) should be 170 when it's 150, and if I play at 170, they'll demand 200. Every player has their unique style, and I refrain from comparisons,"

Probs the worst response I've ever heard

 

[mominsaigol]

What’s he trying to say?

That he is playing the right way but people will just never be satisfied with him? Is he the modern day Misbah ul Haq now?

No one will ever understand my 129 sr. I'm a victim.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

What’s he trying to say?

That he is playing the right way but people will just never be satisfied with him? Is he the modern day Misbah ul Haq now?

Yep he is saying the same thing.

 

[Rana]

Yep he is saying the same thing.

Why doesn’t he do a podcast with Karachi media?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Why doesn’t he do a podcast with Karachi media?

May be they won't be that friendly

 

[Rana]

May be they won't be that friendly

Exactly, he avoids the truth

 

[emranabbas]

You are selfish babar, you threw away test captaincy just because you were sacked from t20 and odi for non perfomance as a captain

 

[daytrader]

Babar Azam in a recent podcast addressed the criticism on his strike rate:

"Look, strike rate and building an innings, as well as winning a match, are distinct matters. When you win a match, both aspects are addressed. It's a gradual process, understanding how to approach the first six overs and the subsequent ones. I am well aware of my cricketing abilities, knowing precisely what adjustments I need to make. The critical factor is the situation; if it permits, I'll play freely,"

"Sometimes, it's perplexing; critics will argue it (strike rate) should be 170 when it's 150, and if I play at 170, they'll demand 200. Every player has their unique style, and I refrain from comparisons,"

He'll be criticized no matter what and he's always compared to every random player.

Good thing he ignores thr unnecessary criticism and the outside noise.

 

[Rana]

He'll be criticized no matter what and he's always compared to every random player.

Good thing he ignores thr unnecessary criticism and the outside noise.

Fakhar fails more than he does

Why is no one constantly criticising Fakhar?

 

[daytrader]

Fakhar fails more than he does

Why is no one constantly criticising Fakhar?

You tell me? Double standards maybe

 

[mominsaigol]

You tell me? Double standards maybe

How is it double standards? , like bro what?

 

[daytrader]

How is it double standards? , like bro what?

Follow the conversation brozki. He's asking why Fakhar doesn't get criticized as much even though he has more failures

 

[mominsaigol]

Follow the conversation brozki. He's asking why Fakhar doesn't get criticized as much even though he has more failures

Double standards would imply when theirs obviously bias. However that obvious bias cones from a few individuals and legally it isnt normalised.

For example their a stigma in society that men under any circumstances SHOULD NOT HIT women, but women can hit anytime. However legally this does not apply in self defence, if the women is trying to kill the man, then irrespective of what some Karen's might think, the man is in the right to attack and fight back, and the women would still get sent to jail lol. So the people's opinions don't matter.

Here almost everyone universally doesn't critise fakhar but Babar is a divided opinion ampung many, its not a double standard because the rules aren't similar and biased to one individual.

Babar is being critised due to low SR, Fakhar is being praised because he has high SR and when he performs he usually wins games or at the very least show cases a mighty effort like his 193 against SA.

^^ How is this double standard? The rules aren't the same or pre defined .

 

[mominsaigol]

Double standards would imply when theirs obviously bias. However that obvious bias cones from a few individuals and legally it isnt normalised.

For example their a stigma in society that men under any circumstances SHOULD NOT HIT women, but women can hit anytime. However legally this does not apply in self defence, if the women is trying to kill the man, then irrespective of what some Karen's might think, the man is in the right to attack and fight back, and the women would still get sent to jail lol. So the people's opinions don't matter.

Here almost everyone universally doesn't critise fakhar but Babar is a divided opinion ampung many, its not a double standard because the rules aren't similar and biased to one individual.

Babar is being critised due to low SR, Fakhar is being praised because he has high SR and when he performs he usually wins games or at the very least show cases a mighty effort like his 193 against SA.

^^ How is this double standard? The rules aren't the same or pre defined .

@daytrader MATE no offence, but babar isn't a teenage girl . Although his fans defo treat him as a princess lol.

 

[daytrader]

Double standards would imply when theirs obviously bias. However that obvious bias cones from a few individuals and legally it isnt normalised.

For example their a stigma in society that men under any circumstances SHOULD NOT HIT women, but women can hit anytime. However legally this does not apply in self defence, if the women is trying to kill the man, then irrespective of what some Karen's might think, the man is in the right to attack and fight back, and the women would still get sent to jail lol. So the people's opinions don't matter.

Here almost everyone universally doesn't critise fakhar but Babar is a divided opinion ampung many, its not a double standard because the rules aren't similar and biased to one individual.

Babar is being critised due to low SR, Fakhar is being praised because he has high SR and when he performs he usually wins games or at the very least show cases a mighty effort like his 193 against SA.

^^ How is this double standard? The rules aren't the same or pre defined .

@daytrader MATE no offence, but babar isn't a teenage girl . Although his fans defo treat him as a princess lol.

His haters though do act like teenager girls that can't see the obvious double standards.

The rules are predefined in the game of cricket and everyone should be held to the same standard. Fakhar's and Babar's strike rates are not much different in the t20 format. This is the format where Babar is criticized the most and also the format where Fakhar is least effective.

 

[mominsaigol]

His haters though do act like teenager girls that can't see the obvious double standards.

The rules are predefined in the game of cricket and everyone should be held to the same standard. Fakhar's and Babar's strike rates are not much different in the t20 format. This is the format where Babar is criticized the most and also the format where Fakhar is least effective.

Fakhar's sr Is low in t20 because he fails alot, which impact sr, hence why aggressive bats like haris and fakhar have low sr.

But babar has a high avg and low sr meaning he consistently performs but doesn't make any impact.

Fakhar has match winning knocks, whereas all of babar's match winning knocks often involve accumulative scores taking it to the final over.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Babar doing podcasts whilst Amir is seen working out at the gym days after the camp. Tells you all you need to know about Babar’s mindset as an athlete.

 

[daytrader]

Fakhar's sr Is low in t20 because he fails alot, which impact sr, hence why aggressive bats like haris and fakhar have low sr.

But babar has a high avg and low sr meaning he consistently performs but doesn't make any impact.

Fakhar has match winning knocks, whereas all of babar's match winning knocks often involve accumulative scores taking it to the final over.

Words like 'impact' and 'world class' have become very subjective these days and hold little value especially when there's no parameters to define them. Babar playing at a higher average and same strike rate only means one thing, which is that he's a better player.

What is the impact of Fakhar's 193 in a losing cause?

Meanwhile Babar also has more Player of the Match and Player of the series awards in T20Is so according to my parameters he's had more impact.

 

[mominsaigol]

Words like 'impact' and 'world class' have become very subjective these days and hold little value especially when there's no parameters to define them. Babar playing at a higher average and same strike rate only means one thing, which is that he's a better player.

What is the impact of Fakhar's 193 in a losing cause?

Meanwhile Babar also has more Player of the Match and Player of the series awards in T20Is so according to my parameters he's had more impact.

You're acting as if that's the only innings falhar played.

His ct 100, his wc 60 ball 100, these innings alone are far superior to whatever babar can feasibly play

The words aren't subjective, their subjective for you, because you can't move past the whole "Babar can hit 6 4's in a super over argument"

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Babar doing podcasts whilst Amir is seen working out at the gym days after the camp. Tells you all you need to know about Babar’s mindset as an athlete.

Ignorant comments like these really make me laugh. As if you have these guys' schedules and know how much time either of them spend training. I really wish cricket fandom would just not have this kind of ignorance but that's too much to ask I guess.

 

[emranabbas]

His haters though do act like teenager girls that can't see the obvious double standards.

The rules are predefined in the game of cricket and everyone should be held to the same standard. Fakhar's and Babar's strike rates are not much different in the t20 format. This is the format where Babar is criticized the most and also the format where Fakhar is least effective.

Cricket is a team sport where it's unrealistic to expect every player to excel in every single match. Similarly, we don't expect Babar to deliver outstanding performances consistently in every game. Rather, it's about contributing significantly in key matches.

How often has Babar played innings akin to Fakhar's against New Zealand in the 2023 World Cup, or like his 114 against India in the Champions Trophy final? Has Babar produced any performances resembling Fakhar's unbeaten 55 in the 2021 World Cup?

 

[daytrader]

You're acting as if that's the only innings falhar played.

His ct 100, his wc 60 ball 100, these innings alone are far superior to whatever babar can feasibly play

The words aren't subjective, their subjective for you, because you can't move past the whole "Babar can hit 6 4's in a super over argument"

You brought up that inning as an impact inning. Again when you're in a corner or proven wrong you resort to taking digs. Seems to be a recurring theme.

Fakhar's CT innings was awesome and I watched every ball of it but it's never mentioned without Bumrah's no ball. Fakhar's 100 in the WC was in a rain reduced game and we were chasing 400+ we had no choice but to go hard.

Babar has 3 T20I centuries at a significant strike rate:

122 from 59 balls against South Africa.
110 from 66 balls against England.
101* from 58 balls vs New Zealand

So please don't say Babar can't play such innings.

You still have no answer for the super over conundrum. Please continue to take your digs at me while Babar Sher is on his way to hit the most 4's in the history of T20Is.

 

[TheSultan]

Soon in the cricket dictionary, the meaning of selfish will be changed from Sachin to Babar and Rizwan

 

[daytrader]

Cricket is a team sport where it's unrealistic to expect every player to excel in every single match. Similarly, we don't expect Babar to deliver outstanding performances consistently in every game. Rather, it's about contributing significantly in key matches.

How often has Babar played innings akin to Fakhar's against New Zealand in the 2023 World Cup, or like his 114 against India in the Champions Trophy final? Has Babar produced any performances resembling Fakhar's unbeaten 55 in the 2021 World Cup?

100% it's a team game. So why all the focus on King Babar who is the least of our worries in any of our line ups?

 

[emranabbas]

100% it's a team game. So why all the focus on King Babar who is the least of our worries in any of our line ups?

It would have been appreciated if you had responded to the entirety of my paragraph rather than just the initial two lines. The answer to your question is within the content of my post.

 

[daytrader]

It would have been appreciated if you had responded to the entirety of my paragraph rather than just the initial two lines. The answer to your question is within the content of my post.

I had the same conversation with another poster. Please read post 64

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Ignorant comments like these really make me laugh. As if you have these guys' schedules and know how much time either of them spend training. I really wish cricket fandom would just not have this kind of ignorance but that's too much to ask I guess.

I don’t know Azam Khan’s schedule but I do know that he spends zero hours in the gym.

We already know from Hafeez that the teams fitness isn’t a major concern for Babar.

We can already see from Babar’s beer belly that he has no dedication to the gym.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

During the podcast discussion, Azam expressed his perplexity at the persistent criticism of his strike rate.

"Look, strike rate and building an innings, as well as winning a match, are distinct matters. When you win a match, both aspects are addressed. It's a gradual process, understanding how to approach the first six overs and the subsequent ones. I am well aware of my cricketing abilities, knowing precisely what adjustments I need to make. The critical factor is the situation; if it permits, I'll play freely,"

"Sometimes, it's perplexing; critics will argue it should be 170 when it's 150, and if I play at 170, they'll demand 200. Every player has their unique style, and I refrain from comparisons."

 

[mominsaigol]

You brought up that inning as an impact inning. Again when you're in a corner or proven wrong you resort to taking digs. Seems to be a recurring theme.

Fakhar's CT innings was awesome and I watched every ball of it but it's never mentioned without Bumrah's no ball. Fakhar's 100 in the WC was in a rain reduced game and we were chasing 400+ we had no choice but to go hard.

Babar has 3 T20I centuries at a significant strike rate:

122 from 59 balls against South Africa.
110 from 66 balls against England.
101* from 58 balls vs New Zealand

So please don't say Babar can't play such innings.

You still have no answer for the super over conundrum. Please continue to take your digs at me while Babar Sher is on his way to hit the most 4's in the history of T20Is.

These 100's are against c string, just look at the bowlers and the players on the scorecard.

 

[BouncerGuy]

There will always be an excuse for whatever Babar does on the cricketing field. People are never gone get satisfied. We need mediocre players like Ahmed shehzad and Imran farhat type players back in the team so people can understand what the reality is.

Babar is once ins a generation player and whatever he does, people will always find a way to criticise him no matter what but the reality is BABAR is our white ball captain and one fo the best players currently in world cricket.

 

[mominsaigol]

There will always be an excuse for whatever Babar does on the cricketing field. People are never gone get satisfied. We need mediocre players like Ahmed shehzad and Imran farhat type players back in the team so people can understand what the reality is.

Babar is once ins a generation player and whatever he does, people will always find a way to criticise him no matter what but the reality is BABAR is our white ball captain and one fo the best players currently in world cricket.

See this is why I always feel the need to step in.

Babar is not ONCE IN A GENERATIONAL PLAYER nor is he ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS CURRENTLY IN WORLD CRICKET.

Every top team has 3 to 4 players superior to him.

Babar is a consistent accumulator but thats about it.

He wouldn't get in the Indian team or the aussie team.

One of the best players in world cricket would be frontline on any team.

For example Warner, any team would want him as an opener, be it sa, India, England, NZ, etc.

 

[topspin]

We can already see from Babar’s beer belly that he has no dedication to the gym.

Spot on but we’re told there’ll always be an excuse for whatever Babar does…

 

[BouncerGuy]

See this is why I always feel the need to step in.

Babar is not ONCE IN A GENERATIONAL PLAYER nor is he ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS CURRENTLY IN WORLD CRICKET.

Every top team has 3 to 4 players superior to him.

Babar is a consistent accumulator but thats about it.

He wouldn't get in the Indian team or the aussie team.

One of the best players in world cricket would be frontline on any team.

For example Warner, any team would want him as an opener, be it sa, India, England, NZ, etc.

so you think Babar will never make it in any other team? talking about all formats or a particular one?

 

[mominsaigol]

so you think Babar will never make it in any other team? talking about all formats or a particular one?

I said top teams, by top teams I mean SENA and India.

I can only see him making it in current England since the team is doing under the water but not 2019 England, or any other top team, and I'm talking about odi and t20, test idk

First of Babar is a top order bat, even no 5 to no 7 are a no go for him and let's analyse each team's top order.

India usually go with Gill, Rohit, Kohli, Sheryas, Rahul/ Sky.

Sky is too valuable in t20 to replace and in odi, Rahul bats at no 5 and is more suitable to that position due to high sr.

In terms of opening to no 4, India wouldn't let Babar play, rohit and kohli are irreplaceable and sheryas 92 sr at no 4 is too invaluable for Bobby to take up.

It would be between Gill and Babar and unless Gill goes put of form, Babar would play.

In case of Australia, Warner and Travis head are 100% certain lol, Babar and Marsh is debatable but likely either Glenn Maxwell gets promoted to no 4, or Babar at best replaces labu in Australia but considering Australia loves to shift order, Most likely maxwell gets no 4 over Bobby.

South africa would probably replace bavuma with babar, but bavuma is a gun captain so the issue remains as to who would captain. As for quinton, Makram, Klaseen and van der dussan, Babar doesn't replace any of em.

In NZ rachin, conway, Williamson, and mitchell + Finn allen have closed all doors for Bobby, but Bobby can replace will young as the 3rd opener.

So he makes it as a b string only.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Odi ? Not going to make in any team?
I don't think so that this makes sense.

 

[daytrader]

See this is why I always feel the need to step in.

Babar is not ONCE IN A GENERATIONAL PLAYER nor is he ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS CURRENTLY IN WORLD CRICKET.

Every top team has 3 to 4 players superior to him.

Babar is a consistent accumulator but thats about it.

He wouldn't get in the Indian team or the aussie team.

One of the best players in world cricket would be frontline on any team.

For example Warner, any team would want him as an opener, be it sa, India, England, NZ, etc.

How many all format players are there in the World or say SENA teams in particular? I think he hit top 3 rankings in all formats and held #1 in both ODIs and T20Is. He can compete at the highest level and still stand out. How is that not World class

 

[mominsaigol]

How many all format players are there in the World or say SENA teams in particular? I think he hit top 3 rankings in all formats and held #1 in both ODIs and T20Is. He can compete at the highest level and still stand out. How is that not World class

The rankings are meaningless.

Pakistan was ranked no 1 in odi but loss 4 games dot on the trot. They were clearly leagues below India and Australia.

 

[daytrader]

The rankings are meaningless.

Pakistan was ranked no 1 in odi but loss 4 games dot on the trot. They were clearly leagues below India and Australia.

Toh bhai kya criteria hai to classify as World class? Is it just an eye test and your observation?

BTW the individual player rankings are more accurate than the team ones. If we had a few more players in the top 10 we would've been more competitive in the 2023 WC