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Faheem Ashraf - Duck watch thread

Well, atleast you can't accuse him for being selfish.
 
Duck farm from Faheem at the moment.

Needs to work on his batting and choice of strokes.
 
Like the other lower order Pakistan batsman he just doesn’t seem to assess good options, play percentage shots or play a few balls first Mickey seriously needs to sit down with him and the likes of Asif

He needs to start thinking more and hacking less or he’s going to move further and further down the order for Pakistan

Jus5 Cos it’s t20 cricket that doesn’t mean you throw the bat blindly at every ball
 
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People are over reacting, remaining not out is not an option when you are coming in with 3-6 balls left.

If anything Pakistan needs to send Fahim and Asif Ali in when there are like 8-10 overs left atleast
 
So this is what these guys mean in interviews when they say Lala was one of their role models.

What bigger tribute to the legend than having your own duck compilation thread on one of the most exclusive cricket forums in the world.
 
His score in the 2nd match was the reason we won the match. He chipped in with wickets and excellent bowling performance in all three matches.


What more you want, hit a 50 and pick up a fifer in every match?
 
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Syed1 said:
His score in the 2nd match was the reason we won the match. He chipped in with wickets and excellent bowling performance in all three matches.


What more you want, hit a 50 and pick up a fifer in every match?
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What do you mean what more I want?

He is supposed to be one of Pakistan's main hitters in the side and he averages 10 and 14 in T20Is and ODIs respectively.
 
So he comes in with 12 balls, he tries to hit from ball 1 but get out . Why is anyone criticizing him. He tried to maximize the score, especially with many batsman left in the dugout. We need to add more hitters in the squad, like Sohail akhtar in t20 to maximize the score . Ashraf is a decent bat but not out and out hitter.
 
topspin said:
What do you mean what more I want?

He is supposed to be one of Pakistan's main hitters in the side and he averages 10 and 14 in T20Is and ODIs respectively.
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He came out to bat in 16.4, 16.6 and 18.2 overs in this T20 series. Sure he shouldn't have gotten 2 ducks but he cannot hit a fifty if he is coming in to bat with 1 or 2 overs to go. Experts need to control their expectations if they want to stop looking stupid.
 
Syed1 said:
He came out to bat in 16.4, 16.6 and 18.2 overs in this T20 series. Sure he shouldn't have gotten 2 ducks but he cannot hit a fifty if he is coming in to bat with 1 or 2 overs to go. Experts need to control their expectations if they want to stop looking stupid.
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He's had 22 LOI innings now - so he's been given time to set these expectations which is virtually zero with those batting averages. Also his strike rates ain't great either particularly in ODIs.
 
topspin said:
He's had 22 LOI innings now - so he's been given time to set these expectations which is virtually zero with the bat like his batting averages. Also his strike rates ain't great either particularly in ODIs.
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That's virtually nothing considering that most of them have come in a boom or bust situation. Make any batsman come in the last few overs and tell him to blast and he won't do too great either.
 
topspin said:
What do you mean what more I want?

He is supposed to be one of Pakistan's main hitters in the side and he averages 10 and 14 in T20Is and ODIs respectively.
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He was picked as a bowling allrounder and for that he is doing a good job. Pace is up, hitting the right lengths and getting the inward movement back.
 
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Lol, I believe like Fakhar he is struggling with these slow wickets
 
Faheem has already done more with the ball than Amir, Hasan and Abbas.

Good selection.

Should have played instead of Yasir in the first two tests.
 
Tidy bowler who can chip in with wickets. Batting is way below par to be considered as an all rounder.
 
His shot today was pathetic, don't get me wrong. But I hope he can do well in the 2nd innings!
 
Surely a specialist bowler would be a better option than him. His batting is of no use. I have more confidence in Shaheen getting more runs than him.
 
Faheem has played 10 ODIs against top teams:

Batting average of 12 at SR of 74.
Bowling average of 56.

"All rounder"
 
It's a lil surprising anytime he doesn't get out on zero. So far, straight from the Chris Martin school of batting.
 
Clueless.

He may as well come in and slog, because he has no clue of how to build an innings.
 
Saj said:
Clueless.

He may as well come in and slog, because he has no clue of how to build an innings.
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I think the team management expects him to come in and blast at the death which he has done many times in domestic cricket. But lol he is coming in after top order collapses, pressure situations and has no clue how to go about his batting. If he doesn't deliver with the bat, then the selectors need to look at Aamir Yamin. There has to be competition in the team for spots so that certain individuals don't take their spots and game for granted.
 
This guy is living off his innings v Bangladesh ahead of the Champions Trophy.
 
Faheem opening the bowling in ODIs is a disgrace to Pakistan cricket. He is a mentally weak player, mediocre bowler and a pathetic batsman who has no clue how to build an innings. I really hope selectors are sane enough to drop him for world cup.
 
It's sad that he is called an all rounder. Shouldn't be in the squad. Please drop him
 
Afridi was synonymous with ducks but at least he had ability to take the game away from the opposition. Faheem has shown nothing like that and he has plenty of ducks.

Not even being able to get to 10 on a consistent basis is worrying.
 
Saj said:
This guy is living off his innings v Bangladesh ahead of the Champions Trophy.
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True, after watching the stream of that game I thought we just had unearthed Razzaq 2.0 he absolutely toyed with the bowling when I was about to turn off the stream and won it from no where! But it seems I have been proved wrong.
 
He comes at No.8, surely some of the bowlers are better equipped to come in the side. Hasan Ali at No.8, Mohammad Amir at No.9 and the rest of the bowlers.
 
Atrocious all round player does not do anything well that's why I have advocated for a long time hammad azam has to be his replacement. Hammad azam atleast is known to be a proper finisher and decent bowler in mould of mathews
 
Coming from his biggest fan, he has been a disappointment with the bat. He’s still a top T20 bowler but he needs to learn the ODI game.

For those saying he can’t bat are clueless. Watch him batting in domestic he is literally the player everyone cried for a couple years ago. Young pace all rounder who can hit 6’s at the death. Expecting him to come in at 100-5 and play a 40 (70) is unrealistic.

He is a far better bowler than Yamin & Amad. These guys are genuine trundlers with 0 movement at all. They can only dream of scoring a 50 in conditions like Faheem did in Ireland.
 
Da_Future_Knick said:
Extremely confident :)
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:)

Overall yes he has been disappointing with the bat but honestly I feel that Faheem has hardly had a chance to play the role with the bat (in ODIs) that he is in the team for - coming in after the 40th over with a good platform set to lift Pakistan's total. Against minnows he hasn't needed to come in and against better teams he's come in halfway through the innings where he isn't good enough yet to save the match.

In T20s he has had those sort of opportunities where he has played a few handy cameos but you can't expect much from any batsman coming in the last 2-3 overs being told to slog.
 
Da_Future_Knick said:
Coming from his biggest fan, he has been a disappointment with the bat. He’s still a top T20 bowler but he needs to learn the ODI game.

For those saying he can’t bat are clueless. Watch him batting in domestic he is literally the player everyone cried for a couple years ago. Young pace all rounder who can hit 6’s at the death. Expecting him to come in at 100-5 and play a 40 (70) is unrealistic.

He is a far better bowler than Yamin & Amad. These guys are genuine trundlers with 0 movement at all. They can only dream of scoring a 50 in conditions like Faheem did in Ireland.
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This guy has hit some 20 sixes in list A career in his whole life. Most sloggers do better than that. He looks very average from his stats 16 @ 80
 
Da_Future_Knick said:
He is a far better bowler than Yamin & Amad. These guys are genuine trundlers with 0 movement at all.
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Faheem has zero movement with the ball. Just gets a couple to straighten up every 30-40 balls. Faheem doesn't even move the red ball. He doesn't have any great spell in domestics while Yamin has many. Do you remember Yamin's first ball in T20 cricket? He bowled a massive in-swinger in UAE to Roy(?) and got the wicket.
 
Why we are going with bits and pieces players like Fahim etc. Instead we can go with 5 specialist bowlers all the time and three of them can bat better than false all-rounder "SIR FAHIM ASHRAF".

Aamer
Shaheen
Hasan
Shadab
Imad

Can destroy any lineup on a given day.
 
Confused approach, poor technique, low in confidence - his batting continues to decline.
 
Saj said:
Confused approach, poor technique, low in confidence - his batting continues to decline.
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Domestic batting average of 16 translating to international batting average of 13 is ok dokay. Shouldn't be taken as an all-rounder.

But bowling average of 56 against non minnows is concerning.
 
I don't think time in the middle is a perfect excuse really. He has had a few opportunities to stick around but he has failed.
 
There's much better options available in the team. Faheem needs to go back and work on his batting, maybe playing some county cricket in England or Australia would help. Maybe even working with a specialist might help like Sir Alastair Cook working with Gary Palmer.
 
TeymurBlake said:
There's much better options available in the team. Faheem needs to go back and work on his batting, maybe playing some county cricket in England or Australia would help. Maybe even working with a specialist might help like Sir Alastair Cook working with Gary Palmer.
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He does have a county deal but it's only for T20s in England.

But a serious question , which first class team in England or Australia will sign him up to play first class cricket when he can't even get off the mark ?
 
Hasan123 said:
He does have a county deal but it's only for T20s in England.

But a serious question , which first class team in England or Australia will sign him up to play first class cricket when he can't even get off the mark ?
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I was thinking grade 2 cricket in Australia.
 
Salman4. said:
Faheem has zero movement with the ball. Just gets a couple to straighten up every 30-40 balls. Faheem doesn't even move the red ball. He doesn't have any great spell in domestics while Yamin has many. Do you remember Yamin's first ball in T20 cricket? He bowled a massive in-swinger in UAE to Roy(?) and got the wicket.
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Yamin is a garbage bowler & he’s overhyped with the bat. He’s a trundler who’s like 5’7.
 
babajee said:
:)

Overall yes he has been disappointing with the bat but honestly I feel that Faheem has hardly had a chance to play the role with the bat (in ODIs) that he is in the team for - coming in after the 40th over with a good platform set to lift Pakistan's total. Against minnows he hasn't needed to come in and against better teams he's come in halfway through the innings where he isn't good enough yet to save the match.

In T20s he has had those sort of opportunities where he has played a few handy cameos but you can't expect much from any batsman coming in the last 2-3 overs being told to slog.
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Have you ever wondered why he hasn't been promoted up the batting order? Because not only his overall batting but also his hitting ability is weaker than Imad Wasim actually, who is quite average.

He can't be trusted with a promotion in the batting order because he isn't much of a batsman. He isn't an all rounder, just a medium pace bowler with stats boosted from minnow bashing.
 
Think we have seen enough of Faheem to work out he has absolutely no idea how to build an innings. Zero game awareness.

Suffice to say, he shouldn't be considered as an all-rounder at this point of time.
 
topspin said:
Have you ever wondered why he hasn't been promoted up the batting order? Because not only his overall batting but also his hitting ability is weaker than Imad Wasim actually, who is quite average.

He can't be trusted with a promotion in the batting order because he isn't much of a batsman. He isn't an all rounder, just a medium pace bowler with stats boosted from minnow bashing.
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That's your opinion but from what I've seen, his hitting ability is far better than Imad versus both pace and spin.

He lacks temperament and doesn't have much of a defence either.
 
Is an important player in T20Is and can have a role to play in away Tests IF he can average even 25+ with the bat.

For now, needs to go from ODIs. All-rounders require patience but with the WC this close, I'd rather have someone like Talat in the side, keeping in mind our batting struggles.

Amir replaces him. Better bat and bowler at the moment.
 
babajee said:
That's your opinion but from what I've seen, his hitting ability is far better than Imad versus both pace and spin.

He lacks temperament and doesn't have much of a defence either.
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Statistics say otherwise.

Imad is definitely a superior bat and has played a few good ODI knocks down the order, notably during the England ODI series 3 years ago. Unlike Faheem he has defensive technique but the problem is he’s more of an accumulator. Having said that he does bat selflessly.

Faheem on the other hand is a more useful player (although average) in SENA tests because his batting is a little bit better than the likes of Yasir Shah and can take the odd wicket to ease the workload of the other seamers.

The harsh reality is Amir and Hasan Ali have done more with the bat in ODIs. That just epitomises how shoddy Faheem is as a batsman.
 
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topspin said:
The harsh reality is Amir and Hasan Ali have done more with the bat in ODIs. That just epitomises how shoddy Faheem is as a batsman.
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That's true but to me it shows how there is also mental aspect to his failures with the bat since he is undoubtedly a better batsman than those two.
 
What’s his role in the team? The way I see it he can’t bat or bowl
 
He should compete with the bowlers. As simple as that. If he can be better than them then include him..if not then drop him. Dont call him an all rounder from now on.
 
I think it’s probably time to drop Faheem and Asif.

They’ve both had extended runs and have failed to perform.

Faheems and a decent bowler but if he can’t be a good Lower order batsmen then we don’t need him. There are plenty of full time bowlers that can do his job.
 
Another one of Inzi's fazul selections. Mashallah :inzi2
 
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