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As the earlier deadline to end the Faizabad sit-in by religious protesters expired on Saturday morning, Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal has now postponed a planned operation against them by another 24 hours.

In a bid to persuade the protesters blocking Faizabad Interchange to end their sit-in peacefully, Iqbal also appealed religious clerics and leaders to help the government resolve the issue.

“We do not want any bloodshed in the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh),” said the interior minister.

He urged the protesters to end their blockade of Faizabad Interchange as their demands have already been met.

The interior minister’s last-minute plea on Friday to religious protesters blocking Faizabad Interchange to end their sit-in fell on deaf ears.

Islamabad administration had told the protesting parties on Friday to end their sit-in by Saturday morning (10am) or face a joint operation by Rangers, Frontier Constabulary and police to disperse them.

Iqbal late Friday night had urged the protesters to end their sit-in, hours after Islamabad High Court (IHC) ordered the capital administration to clear the interchange.

Roughly 2,000 protesters are demanding the resignation of Law Minister Zahid Hamid over a hastily-abandoned amendment to the Prophethood Declaration Clause in the Electoral Reforms Bill 2017.

The Election (Amendment) Elections Bill 2017 has been passed both by the National Assembly and Senate, bringing the Khatm-e-Nabuwwat (finality of Prophethood) clause to its original form.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/156127...elays-operation-against-islamabad-protesters/
 
Love and respect for these people

Goverment commited a mistake, someone should be held accountable for this grave sin.
 
Labbayk Ya RasoolAllah (Peace be upon Him)

report needs to be made public, and culprits needs to be punished
 
Taking the law into their hands does not serve the country
 
Taking the law into their hands does not serve the country

How can we allow this to be unpunished?

There was enough time to take action by goverment but didn't do anything till the protest happened. Sometimes you have to take the tougher route.
 
PMLN government won't dare to use force as they did with PTI/ PAT. Some say that this group has backing of Shabaz.
 
How can we allow this to be unpunished?

There was enough time to take action by goverment but didn't do anything till the protest happened. Sometimes you have to take the tougher route.

We cannot have a free for all.
 
The Tehreek-e-Labbaik, a religious group that has blocked the federal capital’s Faizabad Interchange for the last two weeks, also shut down Karachi’s Numaish Chowrangi on Saturday, causing massive gridlocks on the city’s major roads.

The protest has been under way for several hours, blocking to access to MA Jinnah Road, Express News reported.

The blockade has caused traffic jams in Saddar and Gurumandir and other surrounding areas. Commuters are stuck in traffic on major thoroughfares of the city including MA Jinnah Road, Shahrah-e-Quaideen, Khalid bin Walid Road, Tariq Road and Kashmir Road.

Negotiations between govt, Faizabad protesters conclude

Around 2,000 protesters at the Faizabad Interchange in Islamabad are demanding the resignation of Law Minister Zahid Hamid over a hastily-abandoned amendment to the Prophet-hood Declaration Clause in the Electoral Reforms Bill 2017.

The Islamabad administration told the protesters on Friday to end their sit-in by 10am on Saturday otherwise a joint operation by Rangers, Frontier Constabulary and police would be carried out to disperse them.

Mufti Muneeb warns govt against cracking down on Faizabad protesters

However, after the deadline expired earlier today, Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal postponed the operation by another 24 hours. In a bid to persuade the protesters to end their sit-in peacefully, Iqbal also appealed to religious leaders to help the government resolve the issue.

A government team started negotiations with the protesters at the residence of Senatar Zafarul Haq on Saturday.

The Election (Amendment) Elections Bill 2017 was passed both by the National Assembly and Senate, bringing the Khatm-e-Nabuwat clause back to its original form.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/156217...abbaik-protesters-also-shut-karachis-numaish/
 
The police should give the protesters a proper ***-whooping. But they won't. Sad to see the country held hostage by a group of hate mongers. No wonder the rest of the world doesn't take us serious.
 
The police should give the protesters a proper ***-whooping. But they won't. Sad to see the country held hostage by a group of hate mongers. No wonder the rest of the world doesn't take us serious.

This group is majority of population in Pakistan (sunni barelvi) and nothing wrong in their demand. Government is at fault here.
 
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This group is majority of population in Pakistan (sunni barelvi) and nothing wrong in their demand. Government is at fault here.

Not exactly, they are going over the board with their demands, trying to frame the whole thing into 'Khatam-e-nabuwat'.

I would prefer an honest non-muslim as our leader then such corrupt leaders, something that Mullah's ego won't ever allow.
 
How can we allow this to be unpunished?

There was enough time to take action by goverment but didn't do anything till the protest happened. Sometimes you have to take the tougher route.

Unpunished? is this the only unislamic act in the history of Pakistan?
 
and is it ok to shed blood for something like this?
 
Islamabad's district administration on Friday evening issued a final warning to protesters camped out at the Faizabad Interchange to disperse, threatening to take action if the order was not heeded.

In a new notification, issued by the district magistrate on Friday evening, the religious hardliners demanding the resignation of Law Minister Zahid Hamid have been ordered to disperse by midnight.

In the missive, the district magistrate noted that for two weeks the protesters have illegally occupied the Faizabad Bridge, which connects Rawalpindi and Islamabad. The notification recalls that the participants have been asked to disperse thrice before but to no avail.

"The Parade Ground located near the Faizabad Interchange has been allocated for protests," the notification states.

If the participants do not vacate the area by midnight, an operation will be launched against them, the District Magistrate has warned.

"If an operation is launched, the onus will be on the participants and leaders of the protest," the notification further warns.

IHC prohibits use of firearms in operation against protesters
Separately, in an order sheet issued by the Islamabad High Court (IHC), Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui asked law enforcement agencies to refrain from using firearms if a "clearance operation" is carried out against the Faizabad protesters.

Justice Siddiqui nonetheless termed the protest an "intolerable anti-state activity" where derogatory remarks were used for "honourable judges" and "other respectable persons". The judge also condemned the sit-in for paralysing life in the capital for the past three weeks.

He further held the leading figures of the protest responsible for "act of terrorism" and concluded that all state institutions must "act in unison" and take steps to disperse the ongoing sit-in.

Capital paralysed
Daily life in the capital has been disrupted by protesters belonging to religious parties — including the Tehreek-i-Khatm-i-Nabuwwat, Tehreek-i-Labaik Ya Rasool Allah (TLY) and the Sunni Tehreek Pakistan (ST) — who are calling for the sacking of Law Minister Zahid Hamid and strict action against those behind the amendment to the Khatm-i-Nabuwwat oath in the Elections Act 2017.

The amendment had earlier been deemed a 'clerical error' and has already been rectified.

The government on Monday scrambled to secure the support of religious leaders and ulema from across the political spectrum in a bid to negotiate a peaceful end to the sit-in.

However, a meeting between representatives of the Tehreek-i-Labbaik Ya Rasool Allah and government ministers held at Punjab House was unable to make any breakthrough, as the protesters had refused to budge from their demand for the law minister’s resignation.

Earlier today, the IHC issued a show-cause notice for contempt of court to Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal over his failure to take steps ordered by the court to end the sit-in.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1372611/disperse-by-midnight-final-warning-issued-to-faizabad-protesters
 
Operation underway to break up sit-in at Islamabad's Faizabad Interchange; 150 arrested

https://www.dawn.com/news/1372614/s...-up-sit-in-at-islamabads-faizabad-interchange

Islamabad police, with the help of Frontier Corps personnel and other law enforcement agencies, have launched a crackdown against protesters camped out at the Faizabad Interchange since November 8.

The crackdown was launched after the last of a long series of deadlines lapsed on Saturday morning without response from the agitating parties.

Roughly 8,500 elite police and paramilitary troops in riot gear are taking part in the clearance operation, which was launched soon after the final deadline of 7am given to protesters expired.

What we know so far:
8,500 security personnel are involved
Police have dispersed nearly 50pc of protesters
At least 150 protesters have been arrested
Security personnel have uprooted tents, destroyed protesters' belongings as they advance
Law enforcement personnel have encircled the area and are using teargas and rubber bullets to disperse agitators. In response, the protesters have been using stones and rocks to attack the advancing security forces.

A security official prepares to fire tear gas shell.— DawnNews
A security official prepares to fire tear gas shell.— DawnNews
As of 11am, nearly all protesters camped out on the I.J. Principal Road near the Faizabad Interchange have been dispersed; however, sporadic shelling is ongoing against protesters on Rawalpindi's Murree Road.

Protesters at Faizabad have retreated in the face of police action. Security personnel have advanced at least one kilometre behind the protesters' picket lines, DawnNews has reported.

At least 150 protesters have been arrested from the area, according to initial reports. Around 30 injuries have also been reported. These numbers are fluid and are expected to rise as more reports stream in.

Security officials not wearing masks can be seen affected by the tear gas.— DawnNews
Security officials not wearing masks can be seen affected by the tear gas.— DawnNews
Authorities have also been conducting aerial surveillance of the operation from helicopters.

“We will clear the Faizabad area today in line with the court's orders,” a senior police officer told APP, adding that: “We will try our best to make sure there is no fatality.”

Meanwhile, loudspeakers are also being used to rally the protesters, who have climbed nearby plazas.

Ejaz Ashrafi, a spokesman of Tehreek Labbaik Ya Rasool Allah, the main agitating party, told Reuters that: “We are in the thousands. We will not leave. We will fight until the end.”

The protesters have allegedly looted two police vehicles and two police vans have been set on fire in Rawalpindi. The Metro bus station on Sixth Road has been damaged.

According to DawnNews, the protesters appeared to have prepared for the crackdown. Some had armed themselves with catapults and sticks. Some were wearing crude masks to prevent identification.

Within two hours of the operation starting, however, security forces had successfully dispersed nearly half of those gathered.

Thick smoke could be seen in the area soon after the crackdown was launched, mostly due to heavy teargas shelling.

The tactic did not seem to be having the intended effect, however: initially, security forces themselves could be seen retreating after struggling with the fumes.

Police close in on protest leaders
The Islamabad administration has asked Tehreek-i-Labbaik Ya Rasool Allah (TLY) leader Khadim Hussain Rizvi to surrender, but he has refused so far.

A live video streamed on Facebook by one of his supporters at 9am showed him leading the sloganeering from a raised platform, surrounded by men armed with sticks.

The unrest in the capital has spilled over in Karachi, as protesters loyal to the same religious parties have started a demonstration against the operation at the Numaish traffic intersection in the city's busy Saddar area.

The protesters have blocked nearby roads.

The situation in Karachi has not flared up so far, as police are standing alert in the area. Important government buildings have also been secured.

Meanwhile, demonstrators have also converged at Shahdara in Lahore.

There are reports of similar protests at Imamia Colony and other settlements along the GT Road. Roads from Lahore to Gujranwala and Faisalabad have also been closed.


This is a developing story that is being updated as the situation evolves. Initial reports in the media can sometimes be inaccurate. We will strive to ensure timeliness and accuracy by relying on credible sources such as concerned, qualified authorities and our staff reporters.

Recapping the crisis
The agitators believe that a sworn oath affirming a politician's belief in the finality of prophethood (Khatm-i-Nabuwwat) was deliberately modified as part of a larger conspiracy during the passage of the Elections Act, 2017.

The amendment was deemed a 'clerical error' by the government and has already been rectified through an Act of Parliament.

Nonetheless, the protesters had been insistent on the resignation of Law Minister Zahid Hamid for his alleged role in the controversy.

There is no proof yet that indicates Hamid was responsible for the amendment. A committee headed by Raja Zafarul Haq has been probing the issue.

The Islamabad High Court, the Supreme Court and the heads of various religious parties had repeatedly called for the protesters to disband, calling the protest unlawful.

The Islamabad High Court had said the protest's leaders had, prima facie, committed an 'act of terror' by continuing their process.

The interior minister was warned of contempt of court by the IHC for not evicting the protesters.

The government initiated several rounds of negotiations with the protesters, but failed each time.

The religious hardliners camped out at Faizabad had been unrelenting on their demand for the resignation of Law Minister Zahid Hamid over his alleged role in the amendment of the Khatm-i-Nabuwwat oath in the Elections Act 2017, which is apparently what led to the breakdown in the negotiation process.

The Elections Act 2017 — which paved the way for Nawaz Sharif to return as PML-N president — had become a cause of controversy when it was revealed that an oath regarding the finality of prophethood had been modified to a 'declaration' somewhere during the process of its passage. The government had claimed that the modification was the result of a clerical mistake.

The amendment in the oath which caused the controversy has already been reversed by parliament.

The Islamabad protesters belong to various religious parties, including the Tehreek-i-Khatm-i-Nabuwwat, Tehreek-i-Labaik Ya Rasool Allah (TLY) and the Pakistan Sunni Tehreek (ST).

Deployment of LEAs
Security deployment in the capital had been beefed up since October 24, when the Ashraf Jalali faction of the Tehreek-i-Labbaik Ya Rasool Allah descended on the city and staged a sit-in in the Blue Area, which had ended on Nov 3.

According to media reports, the number of personnel deployed around the sit-in varies as per the situation. On average, a shift consists of 3,000-7,000 personnel.

Police also impounded over 200 containers to control access to the city as part of security measures. Five cranes and 10 trailers were also hired to move the containers around, while 19 water tankers – 15 of which were meant to refill water cannons and four to supply drinking water to on-duty personnel, had also been requisitioned.

Another 40 vehicles, including buses and wagons, had been engaged to transport personnel from their accommodations to the duty spot around the Faizabad.

Over the more than two-week-long sit-in, several cases had been filed against the protesters and the organisers of the sit-in. One of these included a murder case.

The protesters were also accused of beating up two photojournalists and several others during their sit-in.

Police had arrested around 150 participants over the course of the protests. The arrests had been made during clashes between law enforcement agencies and protesters, which broke out sporadically over the 17-day showdown between the state and religious hardliners.

Timeline
On November 5, the capital administration had warned TLY and ST against taking any rally to Islamabad, saying a ban on public gatherings had already been imposed in the city.

The parties were also informed that Parade Ground had been reserved for such gatherings and holding a rally somewhere else in the capital would be unlawful. The organisers had not sought any permission for the rally or the sit-in.

On November 8, the protesters blocked the expressway that connects Islamabad with Rawalpindi. Since then, the metro service has also been halted. According to the Metro Bus Authority (MBA), more than 100,000 people used the service between the twin cities daily.

On November 9, Islamabad police registered a First Investigation Report (FIR) against TLY leader Khadim Rizvi in a case pertaining to the death of an infant. The infant's family had not been able to reach the Pakistan Institute of Medical Sciences (Pims) because of roadblocks put in place due to the joint rally of the TLY and ST. Police had registered an FIR against Rizvi and other participants of the protest under Section 322 of the Pakistan Penal Code, which deals with qatl-bis-sabab (unintentional murder).

On November 10, Islamabad police lodged two more cases against Khadim Hussain Rizvi. Pir Aijaz Afzal and other leaders and participants of the Islamabad protest sit-in were nominated in the two FIRs.

A private TV channel had nominated the protesting leaders in a case pertaining to violence against its crew. According to the FIR, the media team was attacked, tortured, threatened and their vehicles were also smashed. The protesters had also snatched their cameras, the complaint stated. The second case was lodged on the complaint of Magistrate Ghulam Murtaza Chandio for the violation of Section 144 by the protesters, along with other charges. Both the cases were registered at the I9 Police Station.

On November 12, Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal had said the government would use all possible means to persuade the religious groups holding a sit-in at Faizabad to shift to Parade Avenue or any other place.

“Otherwise we will have no option but to go for the administrative solution as the government cannot allow any group to restrict the fundamental rights of the citizens. However, the protesters want a dead body or ‘shaheed’ [martyr] to achieve their goal,” he had said while talking to Dawn.

On November 15, the protesting clerics had approached the judiciary and petitioned in the Islamabad High Court (IHC) for the “execution” of their demands. In its petition submitted in the IHC, TLY demanded: “It is humbly prayed that this Hon’ble Court while allowing the writ petition, direct the federal government, represented by the respondents to publish and publicize the inquiry report submitted by Raja Zafarul Haq, and the culprits so determined therein, may very kindly be proceed against under the relevant laws.”

On November 16, the Islamabad High Court (IHC) had directed TLY to call off its sit-in. Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui issued the direction while hearing the petition filed by the religious group. Justice Siddiqui directed the protesting clerics to immediately vacate the interchange and show respect for the law while he heard the case.

On November 17, the government had issued "a last warning" to the protest's organisers, asking them to vacate the venue. However, the government failed to launch an operation or to get the venue vacated. The government then ordered the district administration to take all necessary steps to clear the area latest by the next morning. All hospitals in the city were ordered to cancel doctors and paramedical staff's leaves and ask them to be present on duty till further instructions.

One thousand personnel were requested from the Punjab Rangers "to perform duty along with police". Nothing happened.

On November 18, religious scholar and Chairman of the Ruet-i-Hilal Committee Mufti Muneebur Rehman urged both the government and protesters to find a solution to the issue, "as a prolonged protest could turn into a major crisis for both sides." However, the appeals of Rehman and several other leaders were not heeded.

Meanwhile, Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal also expressed hope that the face-off between religious activists and security personnel at Faizabad Interchange would end within a day. It did not.

On November 20, the government scrambled to secure the support of religious leaders and ulema from across the political spectrum in a bid to negotiate a peaceful end to the sit-in. However, a meeting between representatives of the protesters and government ministers held at Punjab House was unable to make any breakthrough.

On November 21, the Supreme Court took suo motu notice of the sit-in.

On November 22, the Pakistan Army’s spokesperson addressed the issue and said the military would abide by the government’s decision on the matter.

In remarks released to the media, Inter-Services Public Relations chief Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor said that while it would be preferable to address the situation through peaceful means, the military would abide by whatever decision the government took.

Saying that the civil and military leaderships were on the same page when it came to the country’s security, he said that the army was duty-bound to carry out the government’s instructions.

On November 23, the head of a committee tasked by the government to come up with an amicable solution to the lingering sit-in submitted his recommendations to the concerned authorities. However, a representative of the committee complained that the government was delaying its implementation.

Sources said that the committee had offered the government the same suggestions that had already been presented by the government to leaders of TLY. The government had offered to change the portfolio of the law minister, or send him on leave. However, both suggestions were turned down by the sit-in’s leaders.

According to sources, the committee had stated that the law minster should be considered innocent until proven guilty. All sides would accept the report of a Raja Zafarul Haq-led committee probing the matter and that further action would be taken once the report’s findings and recommendations are finalised, it suggested.

On November 24, the IHC issued a show-cause notice for contempt of court to Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal over his failure to take steps ordered by the court to end the sit-in. Islamabad's district administration subsequently issued another "final warning" to protesters. Acting on its orders, and after sharp criticism from the Supreme Court, law enforcers deployed around the sit-in confiscated food meant for the participants of the sit-in. Lights around the venue had already been turned off before the crackdown.


https://www.dawn.com/news/1372614/s...-up-sit-in-at-islamabads-faizabad-interchange
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All channels shut down..</p>— Kashif Abbasi (@Kashifabbasiary) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kashifabbasiary/status/934340928025825280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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The only people who have to suffer are the ones who are stuck in the twin cities during this whole mess. Blocked roads, unable to go out with an open mind. This isn't Islam. This is manipulation. If someone innocent who is getting transported to a hospital emergency dies due to this fanatical behavior, will they take responsibility for it? Islam doesn't preach violence, molvis and pseudoliberals they always tend to go overboard with this stuff.
 
Good. I hope violence doesn't occur and no lives are lost.

Not because I have any sympathy for these extremists troublemakers, but I don't want them to get 'laashein' like Dr TuQ, which they then use for political ambitions.
 
I don't get the error that was made that caused these protests. Can someone explain?
 
just recieved an update from isb updates.

Protestors are back at faizabad.
 
an army helicopter just flown over my house.

this is going to get interesting....

martial law ? :)))
 
I don't get the error that was made that caused these protests. Can someone explain?


Tehreek Labaik Ya Rasool Allah (TLY) and Sunni Tehreek (ST) possess selected to seize the Twin Metropolises hostage so as to clamor opposing revisions to electoral regulation that made it somewhat less tough for Ahmadis to list to poll and contest elections. Never mind that these adjustments to the regulation were swiftly reversed afterward being attributed to a clerical error, or that the power bent above backwards to say sorry for the blunder and rectify it as swiftly as possible. The TLY and ST tolerate to delight the event as an unforgivable attack on the believed of the Finality of Prophet hood, and are presently shouting for the notice of the Regulation Priest as additionally intimidating associates of the power and parliament alongside bloodshed and even demise if their demands are not met.
 
Tehreek Labaik Ya Rasool Allah (TLY) and Sunni Tehreek (ST) possess selected to seize the Twin Metropolises hostage so as to clamor opposing revisions to electoral regulation that made it somewhat less tough for Ahmadis to list to poll and contest elections. Never mind that these adjustments to the regulation were swiftly reversed afterward being attributed to a clerical error, or that the power bent above backwards to say sorry for the blunder and rectify it as swiftly as possible. The TLY and ST tolerate to delight the event as an unforgivable attack on the believed of the Finality of Prophet hood, and are presently shouting for the notice of the Regulation Priest as additionally intimidating associates of the power and parliament alongside bloodshed and even demise if their demands are not met.
Ahmadies want to stay as far away from this type of politics as possible!
 
Tehreek Labaik Ya Rasool Allah (TLY) and Sunni Tehreek (ST) possess selected to seize the Twin Metropolises hostage so as to clamor opposing revisions to electoral regulation that made it somewhat less tough for Ahmadis to list to poll and contest elections. Never mind that these adjustments to the regulation were swiftly reversed afterward being attributed to a clerical error, or that the power bent above backwards to say sorry for the blunder and rectify it as swiftly as possible. The TLY and ST tolerate to delight the event as an unforgivable attack on the believed of the Finality of Prophet hood, and are presently shouting for the notice of the Regulation Priest as additionally intimidating associates of the power and parliament alongside bloodshed and even demise if their demands are not met.

I don't think it was a clerical error tbh. The maulivis demand is to declare the person who was behind the Change. Zaid Hamid says that another person was behind the Change.

Mullahs and government are both as stupid as each other tbh.
 
Tehreek Labaik Ya Rasool Allah (TLY) and Sunni Tehreek (ST) possess selected to seize the Twin Metropolises hostage so as to clamor opposing revisions to electoral regulation that made it somewhat less tough for Ahmadis to list to poll and contest elections. Never mind that these adjustments to the regulation were swiftly reversed afterward being attributed to a clerical error, or that the power bent above backwards to say sorry for the blunder and rectify it as swiftly as possible. The TLY and ST tolerate to delight the event as an unforgivable attack on the believed of the Finality of Prophet hood, and are presently shouting for the notice of the Regulation Priest as additionally intimidating associates of the power and parliament alongside bloodshed and even demise if their demands are not met.

Sad to see this state of affairs. Minorities in Pakistan don't really have an easy life it seems.
 

It is a very sensitive discussion, the Government was already one wheeling with the regulation being announced and the so called Tehreeks cashed in. TLY is already going to get through its nominees for 2018 Elections so they have played it really well. The only party in Pakistan where many religious leader are is PMLN , TLY has put across a case where the blame is humongous and now they are getting the results by welcoming MPA's & MNA's from the Government.

As Usual the so called democratic Government wanted to show it's muscle and have stabbed themselves.......The end of Musharraf was LAL Masjid...no idea where this is going
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FaizabadDharna?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FaizabadDharna</a> participants 'contacted <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a>', claims Interior Minister <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AhsanIqbal?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AhsanIqbal</a> <a href="https://t.co/aPP1l1kOi2">https://t.co/aPP1l1kOi2</a></p>— Dawn.com (@dawn_com) <a href="https://twitter.com/dawn_com/status/934387490441621505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1372809/i...ed-india-claims-interior-minister-ahsan-iqbal

Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal on Saturday claimed that religious parties protesting in Islamabad had 'contacted India', and that the government was investigating the matter.

Speaking to DawnNews, Iqbal said: "They are not simple people. We can see that they have various resources at their disposal. They have fired tear gas shells [at security forces], they also cut the fibre optic cables of cameras that were monitoring their protest."

The interior minister said the protesters had also "contacted India".

"Why they did it, we are looking into it. They have inside information and resources that are being used against the state."
 
https://www.dawn.com/news/1372809/i...ed-india-claims-interior-minister-ahsan-iqbal

Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal on Saturday claimed that religious parties protesting in Islamabad had 'contacted India', and that the government was investigating the matter.

Speaking to DawnNews, Iqbal said: "They are not simple people. We can see that they have various resources at their disposal. They have fired tear gas shells [at security forces], they also cut the fibre optic cables of cameras that were monitoring their protest."

The interior minister said the protesters had also "contacted India".

"Why they did it, we are looking into it. They have inside information and resources that are being used against the state."

I simply do not believe this government and the claims that it makes. Not that I support the mullah brigade.
 
I don't get the error that was made that caused these protests. Can someone explain?

j_kazmi said:
Same can some one explain this.
Same can some one explain this. [/QUOTE]

As per my understanding, when parliamentarians take oath they previously said “I solemnly swear” that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is FINAL prophet. This was replaced with “I believe” Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is FINAL prophet.

Now this could have been made for Non Muslim candidates who take oath as they don't need to possibly swera but no such clarification has been made by PMLN government.

What has been quite strange is PMLN government initially denied making change and then said that it was a clerical error. A committee was formed to investigate this by PMLN government and report is not being published.

Protesters demanded resignation of law minister which was declined and eventually action is being taken.

No doubt this Mullah Khadim is a fasadi and biggest jahil mullah who uses abusive language and even justifies that using quran o hadees references.

I have absolutely no idea why PMLN gov would make such a change knowing well there would be backlash? Why did they call clerical error? how is it possible that they would make such a change without any thoughts or plans? Dodgy things happening all around.
 
Nawaz Sharif's own son in law and husband of next PM hopeful Maryam Nawaz supports dharna against his own government and wants to join them :)

One PMLN MNA and one MPA so far have resigned or joined the dharna against their own government.

PMLN MNA Javed Latif attacked and injured by protesters and many other leaders houses attacked.

Shameful behaviour by trouble makers and on the other hand if PMLN's own parliamentarians are going against them then it's trouble for government.
 
Nawaz Sharif's own son in law and husband of next PM hopeful Maryam Nawaz supports dharna against his own government and wants to join them :)

One PMLN MNA and one MPA so far have resigned or joined the dharna against their own government.

PMLN MNA Javed Latif attacked and injured by protesters and many other leaders houses attacked.

Shameful behaviour by trouble makers and on the other hand if PMLN's own parliamentarians are going against them then it's trouble for government.

Its all scriped by PMLN my friend. They know that their power is sliding. I see PTI taking a greater chunk of Punjab in 2018 and forming some sort of government.
 
I didn't fully comprehend what this post was about until I typed Pakistan in news section of google and was surprised at the violence happening down there. Stay safe.
 
One would think that Pakistan would have learnt a lesson after Lal Masjid.
 
Is the Mullah brigade armed??? Why is police struggling to quell them??
 
Is the Mullah brigade armed??? Why is police struggling to quell them??

It's totally different this time because first time in our 70 years history an extreme wing is rising from Bralevi sect while other sects known for demonstrating mullah power every other are staying at home (Deoband, Ahl-e-Hadees etc).
 
It's totally different this time because first time in our 70 years history an extreme wing is rising from Bralevi sect while other sects known for demonstrating mullah power every other are staying at home (Deoband, Ahl-e-Hadees etc).

You are right.

Do you think barelvis never had extremists because the state is itself more inclined towards the barelvi sect, it being the predominant sect of Pakistan? This is probably a rare time in which all sects have a common issue, the Barelvis included. Just like it was in the Mumtaz qadri issue. Hence we are seeing greater participation from them.
 
You are right.

Do you think barelvis never had extremists because the state is itself more inclined towards the barelvi sect, it being the predominant sect of Pakistan? This is probably a rare time in which all sects have a common issue, the Barelvis included. Just like it was in the Mumtaz qadri issue. Hence we are seeing greater participation from them.

They were predominant sect of Pakistan and had soft views but they were always taken for granted by govts when sometime giving favors to others so this is a result of ignorance and this movement actually started during Mumtaz Qadri issue and now we are seeing the peak. Nobody was even aware of this molvi at national level before few years until he started this support movement for Mumtaz Qadri and gained support while media was staying away from giving it coverage and Govt kept their eyes closed. Now his group has already gained enough support and they even created their own political party and are getting more votes thn old religious political parties because bralevis before mostly supported national parties and now they got their own party to show their votebank power.
 
They were predominant sect of Pakistan and had soft views but they were always taken for granted by govts when sometime giving favors to others so this is a result of ignorance and this movement actually started during Mumtaz Qadri issue and now we are seeing the peak. Nobody was even aware of this molvi at national level before few years until he started this support movement for Mumtaz Qadri and gained support while media was staying away from giving it coverage and Govt kept their eyes closed. Now his group has already gained enough support and they even created their own political party and are getting more votes thn old religious political parties because bralevis before mostly supported national parties and now they got their own party to show their votebank power.

I think the issue is bigger than one person mobilizing support over a period of time. The general public has an emotional connect with this issue which makes them vulnerable to exploitation by self styled mullahs and saviours of Islam. I seriously believe Pakistan should have an entire battalion of sarkari molvis on government payroll to help control such emotional outbursts.
 
I think the issue is bigger than one person mobilizing support over a period of time. The general public has an emotional connect with this issue which makes them vulnerable to exploitation by self styled mullahs and saviours of Islam. I seriously believe Pakistan should have an entire battalion of sarkari molvis on government payroll to help control such emotional outbursts.

PTI is trying this in KP and is being criticized 24/7 by both desi liberals (for standing with molvis) and by the extreme molvis like fazul ur rehman in opposition (they think PTI govt is trying to corrupt molvis).
 
A crackdown against religious protesters camped out at Islamabad's Faizabad Interchange was 'suspended' on Saturday evening as thousands of protesters took over the streets in the federal capital.

The Islamabad police, with the help of Frontier Constabulary (FC) personnel and other law enforcement agencies, launched the operation against protesters earlier today after the last of a long series of deadlines lapsed this morning without response from the agitating parties. The protesters have been camped out at the Faizabad Interchange since November 8.


The federal government has ordered the deployment of the army in Islamabad under Article 245 of the Constitution, with the military mandated to aid civilian law-enforcement agencies in securing the capital till further orders.

The army will be deployed in various parts of Islamabad to secure main offices of the judiciary, Parliament House, Presidency and Prime Minister Houses, foreign missions, foreign office and other important installations.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1372614/i...sands-of-violent-protesters-take-over-streets
 
PTI is trying this in KP and is being criticized 24/7 by both desi liberals (for standing with molvis) and by the extreme molvis like fazul ur rehman in opposition (they think PTI govt is trying to corrupt molvis).

That shouldn't discourage PTI because this is the right thing to do along with providing education, raising living standards and most importantly giving people something to lose. Hate to sound machiavelistic, but you have to be cunning to deal with this menace.
 
Tehreek Labaik Ya Rasool Allah (TLY) and Sunni Tehreek (ST) possess selected to seize the Twin Metropolises hostage so as to clamor opposing revisions to electoral regulation that made it somewhat less tough for Ahmadis to list to poll and contest elections. Never mind that these adjustments to the regulation were swiftly reversed afterward being attributed to a clerical error, or that the power bent above backwards to say sorry for the blunder and rectify it as swiftly as possible. The TLY and ST tolerate to delight the event as an unforgivable attack on the believed of the Finality of Prophet hood, and are presently shouting for the notice of the Regulation Priest as additionally intimidating associates of the power and parliament alongside bloodshed and even demise if their demands are not met.

Lol nice spin on the facts. This wasn't some clerical error lmao it was deliberate, a way for the feds to create a distraction from the corruption scandals, they created this mess and are milking this.
 
Lol nice spin on the facts. This wasn't some clerical error lmao it was deliberate, a way for the feds to create a distraction from the corruption scandals, they created this mess and are milking this.

Now our intertor minister is linking Khadim Rizvi with India :yk
 
Now our intertor minister is linking Khadim Rizvi with India :yk

That was LAME attempt, something likes of Khadim Rizvis come up with accusing opponents of Yahoodi/Indian lobby. You would expect better from Made in China intellectual like Ahsan Iqbal ( But Zia ki training hai, what can you expect) :))
 
After the murder of Salman Taseer and the ascent of his killer Mumtaz Qadri to the status of saint amongst a sizeable number of people in Pakistan, its scary to think what the future holds for Pakistan. People who exploit or use the "Ishq-e-rasool" or "Khamtam-e-nabowat" thing for political means are playing with fire which will ultimately come back and burn them as well. A mullah and his comparatively small number of supporters holding the whole govt. hostage right near the capital is not new. We have seen that with the Lal Masjid fiasco in the past when Army was completely in charge. Still, the issue got dragged on for months and finally resulted in a mess.

Giving into religious demands by political govts. is also now new. Bhutto, infamously made Ahmadis non-muslim through constitutional amendment to hold on to power. Every successive govt. since then has been laying down and having the religious police walk all over them. Action only gets taken when things get so extreme as to put in doubt the whole notion of Pakistan being a sovereign and law abiding state.

As far as the current crisis go, PML-N deserves no sympathy as they have poorly mishandled this situation and are partly responsible for stoking the "Khatam-e-nabowat" fires themselves. However, taking advantage of this situation by the opposition parties and Army is reckless and myopic as this fire can turn towards them in the future as well. Unfortunately, no one who is in real power in Pakistan is able to call this out and stop this non sense from happening again. This has simply paved the way for any crazed and opportunistic Mullah to hold the whole country hostage by simply claiming his immutable and uncompromising love for the Prophet (PBUH).

A very dangerous and potentially catastrophic precedence indeed.
 
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Govt. should've never attempted this half-hearted operation, should've gone with full force and would've been better if it was done in night. These are vile creatures
 
After the murder of Salman Taseer and the ascent of his killer Mumtaz Qadri to the status of saint amongst a sizeable number of people in Pakistan, its scary to think what the future holds for Pakistan. People who exploit or use the "Ishq-e-rasool" or "Khamtam-e-nabowat" thing for political means are playing with fire which will ultimately come back and burn them as well. A mullah and his comparatively small number of supporters holding the whole govt. hostage right near the capital is not new. We have seen that with the Lal Masjid fiasco in the past when Army was completely in charge. Still, the issue got dragged on for months and finally resulted in a mess.

Giving into religious demands by political govts. is also now new. Bhutto, infamously made Ahmadis non-muslim through constitutional amendment to hold on to power. Every successive govt. since then has been laying down and having the religious police walk all over them. Action only gets taken when things get so extreme as to put in doubt the whole notion of Pakistan being a sovereign and law abiding state.

As far as the current crisis go, PML-N deserves no sympathy as they have poorly mishandled this situation and are partly responsible for stoking the "Khatam-e-nabowat" fires themselves. However, taking advantage of this situation by the opposition parties and Army is reckless and myopic as this fire can turn towards them in the future as well. Unfortunately, no one who is in real power in Pakistan is able to call this out and stop this non sense from happening again. This has simply paved the way for any crazed and opportunistic Mullah to hold the whole country hostage by simply claiming his immutable and uncompromising love for the Prophet (PBUH).

A very dangerous and potentially catastrophic precedence indeed.

dont you think that the laws that violate the basic rights of ahmedis will have to be dealt with?
 
and now army is not ready to send in the rangers.

They will call in a meeting with pm today :facepalm:

looks like someone is hell bent at protecting their children........
 
As many as six people were killed and hundreds wounded as law enforcement agencies finally acted under court orders on Saturday to disperse protesters who had camped out at Islamabad's Faizabad Interchange for nearly three weeks after the last of a series of deadlines given to them to disperse peacefully lapsed.

The six killed were identified as Hafiz Mohammad Adeel, Jahanzaib Butt, Abdul Rehman, Mohammad Sharjeel, Zohaib Ahmed and Mohammad Irfan.

A number of senior police officials, nine police officers and a polio vaccinator were injured in the clashes.

The senior police officials were injured when protesters who had occupied the Metro Bus Station at Shamasabad were invited for negotiations by Rawalpindi Police chief Israr Abbasi.

However, the ambushed the officials, injuring Abbasi and SP Syed Ali.

A senior police official told Dawn that no security personnel was killed in the violence, even though there were conflicting accounts of a policeman being killed in clashes.

Although security personnel deployed around the venue of the sit-in vastly outnumbered the participants, a combination of ill-planning on the part of the authorities and guerilla tactics from the demonstrators helped the latter turn the tables on law enforcement personnel, who seemed to have the upper hand early on Saturday morning.

Although Rangers personnel were deployed in Islamabad around the site of the sit-in, they did not participate in the action against protesters.

The ill-planned action only added fuel to the demonstrators’ fire and not only failed to dislodge them, but also fanned smaller protests in other parts of the country.

In Karachi, 35 people – including two policemen – were injured as protesters blocked main arteries such as Sharea Faisal and forcibly closed down shops in Saddar.

The army was called in late Saturday night to deal with the aftermath of the botched operation which left protesters with a hold on Faizabad.

Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal told Dawn on Saturday night that a formal requisition for the deployment of troops in Rawalpindi and Islamabad had been sent to the army. However, no troops have been deployed in either city as yet.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1372986/i...in-clashes-between-leas-agitators-on-saturday
 
and now army is not ready to send in the rangers.

They will call in a meeting with pm today :facepalm:

looks like someone is hell bent at protecting their children........

Army is only asking govt. to define the operating guidelines and send a proper notification, If they accept & go ahead with that notification, Army will leave itself open to criticism as it is was when Lal Masjid happened.
 
https://tribune.com.pk/story/156787...t-but-seeks-clarifications-before-deployment/

Hours after the government called out the army after an abortive operation to disperse protesters from Islamabad’s Faizabad Interchange, the military has asked for clarifications over a few matters before they step in.

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In its reply to the Interior Ministry, a statement issued by the General Headquarters said the army is ready to fully “perform the assigned task in line with its constitutional obligations a few aspects meriting prior to employment of army”.

On Saturday, a notification issued by the Ministry of Interior had said a sufficient number of troops, to be determined by the Commander of the 111 Brigade, were being deployed in the capital to assist civil authorities in maintaining law and order. The troops have been deployed in aid of civil power under Article 245 of the Constitution and will remain in Islamabad until further order.

The army’s statement listed down three key points.

The army pointed out that the police has not been “optimally utilized” while dealing with the protesters of Tehreek-e-Labaik.

It further stated that the Rangers have not been given written instructions for their deployment in contrast to the agreement that a written order would be required for their deployment.

Citing the Islamabad High Court order, the communique also said that the high court had barred the use of firearms against the protestors and calling the army in implies the use of force. The statement has then asked for a clarification on the matter.



According to Express New, a meeting between army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa and Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi is expected to take place later in the day.

The army chief flew back to Pakistan after cutting his United Arab Emirates trip.

The chief of army staff (COAS) called up the premier on Saturday to advise him against the use of power over the protestors.

In a tweet, DG ISPR Asif Ghafoor had stated that violence would be against national interest and cohesion and quoting the COAS said the issue should be resolved peacefully.

The desperate government had called out the army after an abortive operation to disperse hundreds of activists of a religious group camping at an arterial traffic intersection of the federal capital since the start of this month.

Earlier on Saturday, the authorities finally launched an operation to retrieve Faizabad intersection from Tehreek-e-Labbaik protesters after weeks of negotiations and nudging by the courts, but the police action only multiplied the government’s problems amid a worsening law and order situation in Islamabad and other cities.

At the end of the day, at least six protesters had been confirmed dead, while more than 200 people – including protesters and law enforcers – were injured. All six fatalities took place in Rawalpindi and four of the deceased were identified as Zohaib, Jahanzeb, Irfan and Adeel. The other two were yet to be identified.





The protesters torched over a dozen police vehicles and several motorcycles, as riot police beat a hasty retreat hours after they mounted the crackdown.

Officials said 40 personnel of Rawalpindi and 76 of Islamabad police, 64 Frontier Constabulary men and 50 civilians suffered injuries and were taken to hospitals. None of the injuries was critical though.

The protesters also set ablaze several public and private properties as the sporadic clashes, particularly in Rawalpindi, continued late in the evening.

Two cars, including the one of an additional deputy commissioner, were torched in Islamabad in addition to several private motorcycles, while in Rawalpindi at least 12 police and two private vehicles, including a DSNG van of a private TV channel, were set on fire. A number of private buildings around Faizabad were also damaged.

Islamabad police clarified that no casualty had taken place in their jurisdiction and reports of the death of a police officer which several news channels ran throughout the day were untrue.

The operation launched by the police of the two cities and personnel of the Frontier Constabulary ended in a disappointing failure amid violent clashes between law enforcers and protesters.

Thousands of police and FC personnel launched the crackdown from all four sides but by the afternoon had retreated even behind their previously held positions.

The law enforcers initially made advances and were able to push the protesters back to the main bridge where the truck carrying the main stage is parked. However, they suddenly retreated amid heavy stone pelting by the protesters. It appears there a lack of coordination and will among high-ups led to the failure of the operation.

A police officer said it had been decided that personnel would squeeze the protesters from all sides. “We pushed the protesters back and made advance from IJP Road, but personnel on other sides could not advance. As a result, the whole pressure fell on us, and we had to retreat,” he said. The officer also added that as the law enforcers engaged the protesters a crowd of over 200 suddenly came from the Sohan side and attacked the personnel from behind.

Another police officer blamed his high-ups for not showing the spine once they decided to launch the crackdown. “It was cowardly. I am really disappointed,” he said in reference to some officers who were leading the operation.

As the protesters took on the law enforcers with stones and clubs, dozens were injured on both sides. Most injuries were suffered by FC personnel.

The retreat of law enforcers was particularly dramatic on IJP Road. After the operation was called off, the protesters had a free hand and police had retreated to I-8/4.

A spokesperson for Islamabad police said around 100 protesters had been arrested. He said details of damage due to arson attacks had yet to be ascertained. The spokesperson said the operation was conducted by police and FC, and Rangers did not take part in it.

“At least 40 police officials have been reported injured, including several officers. Seven of our prison vans, four small vehicles and a water tanker have been torched by the protesters,” said a spokesperson for Rawalpindi police. In addition a private empty oil tanker, the DSNG van and a furniture store were set on fire on Murree Road.

The Faizabad protest leaders in a statement later said they were severing all talks with the government until the funeral and burial of their dead.

It is pertinent to note that 350 troops were already deployed in the capital under Article 245 since 2014.
 
Army is only asking govt. to define the operating guidelines and send a proper notification, If they accept & go ahead with that notification, Army will leave itself open to criticism as it is was when Lal Masjid happened.

so the fact that people have been killed, this still requires proper guidelines??
Courts have given permission

And during the lal masjid fiasco, wasnt army in power? Army was critisized back then for letting it build up and taking action later.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As if the situation on the roads in Islamabad wasnt bad enough during the last two weeks. Now its magnified and shifted to KHI and all other parts of the country. &#55357;&#56911;&#55356;&#57341;put all agendas aside and dont mess with the safety and security of our people. Stay safe everyone <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Faizabad?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Faizabad</a></p>— Shan Masood (@shani_official) <a href="https://twitter.com/shani_official/status/934362959450726400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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so the fact that people have been killed, this still requires proper guidelines??
Courts have given permission

And during the lal masjid fiasco, wasnt army in power? Army was critisized back then for letting it build up and taking action later.

Govt. is using court order to justify their actions, and in that order court has bared the use of firearms. Calling army guarantees the use of force/firearms. You dont expect the army to use Gandasa, so army making sure that they dont get blamed by the govt. court and the media, that why did you use firearms when it had been bared.
 
Govt. is using court order to justify their actions, and in that order court has bared the use of firearms. Calling army guarantees the use of force/firearms. You dont expect the army to use Gandasa, so army making sure that they dont get blamed by the govt. court and the media, that why did you use firearms when it had been bared.

again, when a policemen gets killed, you automatically start using weapons.

Everyones life is at risk now. They are now destroying public property and we are here still confused whether to use weapons.

Do deal with crimes, do the forces have to go to court first?
 
again, when a policemen gets killed, you automatically start using weapons.

Everyones life is at risk now. They are now destroying public property and we are here still confused whether to use weapons.

Do deal with crimes, do the forces have to go to court first?

So what happens when army does fire straight and you have corpses lying? Media, govt. everyone will criticize them which leads to low troop morale.

I'm only defending army on this solely because of the blame which media/govt. puts on army when it uses force otherwise they should've been called earlier and rolled these vile creatures with their spiked boots.
 
If there is a bloodbath, the whole country will be blaming the army. This is the reason why the army is being cautious. Plus, this is a very sensitive issue and if the army takes actions and there are corpses, the army will be heavily criticized for killing 'Ashiq-e-Rasools.'
 
dont you think that the laws that violate the basic rights of ahmedis will have to be dealt with?

Sadly, we are a long way from there. Which govt. or even army will ever dare to deal with that, esp. after this fiasco.

Watching some of the coverage, its amazing how majority of the media who just 2 days ago was criticizing the govt. for their inaction against the dharna are now all out criticizing them for not trying to solve this issue peacefully. So predictable.
 
If there is a bloodbath, the whole country will be blaming the army. This is the reason why the army is being cautious. Plus, this is a very sensitive issue and if the army takes actions and there are corpses, the army will be heavily criticized for killing 'Ashiq-e-Rasools.'

didn't this whole mess started form the army?
 
Sadly, we are a long way from there. Which govt. or even army will ever dare to deal with that, esp. after this fiasco.

Watching some of the coverage, its amazing how majority of the media who just 2 days ago was criticizing the govt. for their inaction against the dharna are now all out criticizing them for not trying to solve this issue peacefully. So predictable.

no matter what happens in the next coming weeks, you are right, this sit in has sent out a message that human rights of minorities will still be violated for the next 20 years and no one could dare to do anything about it
 
Army will never do anything without proper guideline from Govt they saw what happened during Laal Masjid and Bugti operation. First the whole media (Hamid Mir was leading) kept showing evidences every night to convince that Musharraf and Army should launch operation in Laal Masjid and against Bugti for torturing people in his own jails and running states within state but when Mush started the operation the whole media was criticizing him 24/7. Army is in no mood to destroy the good image they created in last 9 years after Musharraf.
 
hmm so army's image is soo important that it wil not bother to take action when being ordered by the govt.

Only in Pakistan...
 
hmm so army's image is soo important that it wil not bother to take action when being ordered by the govt.

Only in Pakistan...

Army's action will be to impose curfew. Curfew imposed in this situation will only result in bloodshed . Do you want that to happen ?
 
Army's action will be to impose curfew. Curfew imposed in this situation will only result in bloodshed . Do you want that to happen ?

is there any other option left now?

The protesters are now asking for the whole cabinet to be removed.

A policeman has died, infrastructure has been destroyed, there has been major economic downfall, law and order doesn't exist as of yet.

Bloodshed will happen only because of the acts of the protesters.
 
is there any other option left now?

The protesters are now asking for the whole cabinet to be removed.

A policeman has died, infrastructure has been destroyed, there has been major economic downfall, law and order doesn't exist as of yet.

Bloodshed will happen only because of the acts of the protesters.

I see no reason why Police cannot handle this situation. They are more trained and well equipped to handle this kind of situation as compared to army. Either government deliberately wants Army to get involved in this mess or they are too incompetent to devise an effective strategy to suppress these protesters.
 
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Please don't use the current situation vent out your bias regarding anyone.

The issue is about the important declaration in forms which were removed by the PML N govt. which they restored themselves in the amendment., the protesters [all of whom are not mullahs] requested them to either ask Law Minister [Zahid Hamid] to resign or the one responsible of removing the important declaration which now most believe was not a clerical error but an attempt to appease Ahmedi voters.

Army faced the worst blowback after LAl MAsjid incident and continues to face major threats unlike the corrupt feudal mafia in the parliament who only make situation worse and can't even manage or resolve small issues.

This Govt. is making the rest of the country suffer through their blanket closure of media and social media,provoking the army.

Army did'nt create the situation, those who did should resolve it instead of passing the buck.
 
Why even have a Civil Govt when it's Army job to fix everything after you continue to create mess and ask them to rescue you once things get out of control?
 
Here main road of Attock is blocked by some 20 people since yesterday. How difficult it is for the police to take action against them and clear the road if they wanted to .
 
Why even have a Civil Govt when it's Army job to fix everything after you continue to create mess and ask them to rescue you once things get out of control?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Govt can get rid of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Faizabad?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Faizabad</a> protesters within three hours, claims interior minister <a href="https://t.co/IT4PkWrD6x">https://t.co/IT4PkWrD6x</a></p>— The Express Tribune (@etribune) <a href="https://twitter.com/etribune/status/933709071617789952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2017</a></blockquote>
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is there any other option left now?

The protesters are now asking for the whole cabinet to be removed.

A policeman has died, infrastructure has been destroyed, there has been major economic downfall, law and order doesn't exist as of yet.

Bloodshed will happen only because of the acts of the protesters.

Nooras deliberately created a situation and want the army to fix it.
 
So what i understand from the posts is that army is not under govt and could go against orders of the govt at will.

Army and govt are same level of departments....
 
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