Fire the management for the tactics today (4th T20I against England)

[ethan hunt]

The managemnt needs to be fired for sending in shan and the way they paced their innings and for holding back Asif Ali.
Irrespective of the outcome this was disgraceful to watch.

 

[Barragan]

Babar started it all and Shan carried on, whilst Rizwan also stayed for far too long.

Absolutely ridiculous!!

Guys like Asif, Khusdil, Ifthikhar etc don't even get any chance to hit the ball.

All the big hitters either come in too late or too early because Rizwan and Babar get out early.

Ideally, all of Asif, Khusdil, Ifthikhar should be in by the 14th over.

 

[Savak]

Someone needs to get in Babars face. He has too much unchecked power without accountability. No way would Mickey Arthur allow him to get away with these mediocre tactics.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Its been the same tactics for the last year or two from what I've seen. Babar has even gone on record in this series as saying a score of 160-180 is the target. We know that won't be enough against England, so surely Babar and the team management will know it. The goal must presumably be just to make a respectable score rather than win the game.

 

[topspin]

It's time for fans to embrace Babar and Rizwan are part of the problem and have cost us in the final + semi-final of the WT20 last year.

Shan Masood's knock was also very poor.

 

[Kroll]

Embarrassing

 

[castortroy]

9 overs to go and to send in shan was one of the most ridiculous decisions I have seen

 

[kingusama92]

If they lose, this is one game you can point to the coach as the biggest culprit.

Major tactical fails which likely cost them 20-30 runs.

 

[ethan hunt]

This was so cringy to watch. The innings shan played even a taileneder would have given better value there. Attrocious use of resources with Asif facing 3 balls.

 

[boomboom6]

Agreed, how do you make such an amateur blunder to not realize the game situation and need? SMDH

 

[Kianig89]

But but but he is a world class batsman

 

[adzzy786]

Does this look like this man should be head coach??

https://youtu.be/ZR74q6Ok8tU


After watching this I realised this man has zero competence as a coach!!

 

[MRSN]

Even clubs have better cosches than this "qudrat ka nizam hai". Lol

This guy has been repeating things just because they worked in one game. He has no clue and I don't think he has any idea how poor his team was in respect to run rate as he sent message in 18th over asking Rizwan and Shan to accelerate. Like seriously it should have been after 10 overs.

 

[shah_1]

Shameful tactics

We know no clue on how to bat first

 

[MRSN]

Does this look like this man should be head coach??

https://youtu.be/ZR74q6Ok8tU


After watching this I realised this man has zero competence as a coach!!

Even his IQ is questionable. I don't think I have seen a worse coach than this guy. His logics and replies to simple queries are philosophical. How exactly a guy with this mindset going to understand technical flaws let alone correct them.

 

[Amjid Javed]

playing for personal records happens in ODIs and T20s.

Babar, Rizwan, imam thats the current team culture.

 

[MRSN]

The whole team manage is sackable just the way they have allowed Rizwan to bat like he had battef tonight despite so many wickets in hand. I mean even after Asia cup loss you don't get this through their head about slow scoring then you should resign. You are not doing your job. Players love to statpad but you are the coach. You have to step up and ask players like him to get rid of this mentality otherwise if you can't make them play according to modern standards then either drop them or resign yourself because you are not doing anything to work out on major weakness of Pak batting.

 

[Grunge101]

The logic behind the batting order today was simply inexplicable. It's like they've made up their minds that the maximum Asif can last is 6 balls so he's always sent in with that many to go.
Masood was a poor choice to be sent in at that point. 9 wickets in hand, 4 players selected for "power hitting" on the bench and we send in Masood?.

When you have strikers that don't have a high success rate (Iftikhar, Shah, Asif), surely giving them a few balls to settle in is the best way to get the maximum out of them?.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Unfortunately that unlikely win will do more damage than good in the long run. This idea that 160-180 runs is a good enough score regardless if you are 80-0 in the 9th over will cost the team against the best sides. Sides of England's calibre don't often get bowled out.

 

[Bewal Express]

Babar and Riz have on the whole got off good starts but they are still in the milk the bowlers mindset from overs 7-14. And in those overs we go to sleep and stop looking for boundries and play for singles. Its something that has happened too often and its needs someone to tell Babar and Riz that its not good enough.

 

[heddie19]

Critisize Riz-Bar more? They will keep scoring and keep winning.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Despite the win, Pakistan's tactics and players utilization remains poor. When Babar was dismissed, there were 8.1 overs to go and you send in Shan Masood when the goal is to score & score quickly?

You are not even doing the player any favours who is not being used correctly because he is not a 150+ SR player who can hit sixes. Khushdil also sent in when it should have been Asif. I still don't think they have realized Khushdil is the type of player who needs a few balls to get in before he can hit big. He can't hit big from ball 1 whereas, that's exactly what Asif can do and the poor guy only gets to face 3 balls when he clearly should have seen more. If the reasoning is Khushdil was sent in to keep lefty-righty combo, that is so dumb & such poor tactics. When there's like 10 balls left and no spinners to face, it doesn't matter. Just send the player who can go off from ball 1.

Pakistan are not England where they honestly don't even have to bother even changing the batting order because every guy comes in and tries to go big whereas Pakistan players have limitations so you have to use them strategically to get them best use out of them.

 

[PakLFC]

I am pulling my hair out watching Khushdil and Shan Masood always doing nothing. For the life of me I can't understand why these two time wasters are always in the team then to make matters much worse we send them to bat before Asif Ali. That over by Hasnain giving away almost 30 runs to a tail ender is one of the worst ever bowled. It was a complete disaster from a comfortable position from where we should have walked it. As usual we had our regular easy dropped catch of one of their top batters. Now many Pak fans will be pretending that all is well when it is exactly the opposite. Haider Ali or Fakhar even we need to make some changes at 3 and 4. Why is Naseem Shah not playing?

 

[PakEngFan]

Babar and Riz have on the whole got off good starts but they are still in the milk the bowlers mindset from overs 7-14. And in those overs we go to sleep and stop looking for boundries and play for singles. Its something that has happened too often and its needs someone to tell Babar and Riz that its not good enough.

They are not kids they should know better. The approach after power play is awful to say the least. I bet the approach will be completely different if we had Mickey instead of saqlain.

 

[Rana]

Babar and Rizwan don’t bat anywhere instead of openers because they can’t inflate their stats

Simple as.

Rizwan trying to hack everything to the leg side even though all 5 fielders were on the leg. No shots to play on the off!

 

[Anis Shivani]

Very revealing to watch the YouTube clip, this person is Pakistan's coach.

Qudrat ka nizam!

Relied again on superhuman bowling to snatch victory from defeat. The philosophy is all wrong. And no wonder when you hear this illiterate man.

 

[kingusama92]

Let's assume Babar-Rizwan is their trusted opening combination.

That's fine as they've spent lots of time developing their chemistry and have been somewhat successful. It is what it is.

But your tactics for the rest of the batting lineup have to be spot on. This includes the deployment and in-game strategy for batsmen 3-11.

Good coaching can maximize this batting order with the right approach. This includes reading the game and making the rest of the lineup versatile and interchangeable.

For example, today's match Babar got out 97-1 with 8 overs left. This is the perfect time to put in one of your attacking options rather than Shan Masood. Even Khushdil makes more sense if you believe he's one of the team's attacking batsmen.

Then after making their first tactical mistake, they send Khushdil with a few balls left when Asif Ali is known for being the best six hitter in the team from ball one.

These coaching mistakes cost them 15-20 runs.

The middle order batsmen are already limited and now their main skills are not even being used. That's just poor.

If the opening pair isn't aggressive, you can't make these mistakes in the WC and they've been making them for a long time. It's not just this match and it's become a pattern with how they use their batsmen.

Babar also does the same thing on the field with his bowling deployment. That's harder to fix when the coach doesn't even know how to manage the batting order.

 

[TeamPak95]

Let's assume Babar-Rizwan is their trusted opening combination.

That's fine as they've spent lots of time developing their chemistry and have been somewhat successful. It is what it is.

But your tactics for the rest of the batting lineup have to be spot on. This includes the deployment and in-game strategy for batsmen 3-11.

Good coaching can maximize this batting order with the right approach. This includes reading the game and making the rest of the lineup versatile and interchangeable.

For example, today's match Babar got out 97-1 with 8 overs left. This is the perfect time to put in one of your attacking options rather than Shan Masood. Even Khushdil makes more sense if you believe he's one of the team's attacking batsmen.

Then after making their first tactical mistake, they send Khushdil with a few balls left when Asif Ali is known for being the best six hitter in the team from ball one.

These coaching mistakes cost them 15-20 runs.

The middle order batsmen are already limited and now their main skills are not even being used. That's just poor.

If the opening pair isn't aggressive, you can't make these mistakes in the WC and they've been making them for a long time. It's not just this match and it's become a pattern with how they use their batsmen.

Babar also does the same thing on the field with his bowling deployment. That's harder to fix when the coach doesn't even know how to manage the batting order.

This.

Pakistan don't boast strikers on the level of Butler, Hales, Rohit, De Kock, etc. but at least they should make the most out of what they have in the squad. And you do this by flexibility via understanding the game situation and acting according to it.

 

[Sherazkhalid]

I think Baber and Rizwan have no idea what the middle order will do once they are out, so due to this, they keep on dragging the innings. Also, I feel they do not have fitness or body type or whatever you want to call it, to go big frequently for the whole 20 overs. Yeah they chased 200 runs, but how many times. They are sound players who seems like have gotten tad slower for current T20s.

 

[Kriketer]

Haha I wonder how often fans demand players/Mgmt to be fired from England, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand? This beloved practice is only common with South Asian countries/fans, doesn't surprise much.

Shaan did play a good knock in the last game so it wasn't a bad call to send him in. Pakistan just doesn't have a "solid reliable striker", there is only one and that is Fakhar and he is out of form. He must be brought back and be trusted with. He will deliver in Australia, got a very good feeling.

 

[mazkhan]

Those field placements in particular with the third man up for hasnain , really shows for me babar isn't captaincy material.

 

[Kianig89]

This team is crying out for top notch coach, Saqlain and crew is completely dumbfounded

 

[MRSN]

Critisize Riz-Bar more? They will keep scoring and keep winning.

This is the problem. Wins like this totally hides underlying weakness of players and they get away with it.

The approach has to change but I don't want Pakistan suffer loss like Asia cup final in the wt20 to finally get this message across players who are content with playing slow.

 

[Rana]

This is the problem. Wins like this totally hides underlying weakness of players and they get away with it.

The approach has to change but I don't want Pakistan suffer loss like Asia cup final in the wt20 to finally get this message across players who are content with playing slow.

It may not change after that too I’m afraid

 

[MRSN]

Those field placements in particular with the third man up for hasnain , really shows for me babar isn't captaincy material.

Dawson was playing with his head and he is not even top batsman. Baber doesn't seem like has a sharp brain. Shadab will have to take over.

 

[heddie19]

They should ask you about the types of wins, no?

 

[ethan hunt]

“We are looking at a target of 160-170” -Babar Azam

Although i wouldnt read too much into the game today. The dew has completely tranformed the wicket 10 overs on ward in the first innings. But this rigid mindset and comfort zone is going to vost Pakistan.

 

[MRSN]

“We are looking at a target of 160-170” -Babar Azam

Although i wouldnt read too much into the game today. The dew has completely tranformed the wicket 10 overs on ward in the first innings. But this rigid mindset and comfort zone is going to vost Pakistan.

The problem is not even accepted by Pakistan let alone correct it. We are behind world cricket at this stage. Even SL have all out attack mindset for T20Is. It's only Pakistan that's playing medieval approach and satisfied by statical figures and milestones rather than embracing modern style of cricket.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Unfortunately that unlikely win will do more damage than good in the long run. This idea that 160-180 runs is a good enough score regardless if you are 80-0 in the 9th over will cost the team against the best sides. Sides of England's calibre don't often get bowled out.

I've been saying this from day one of this series. If Babar was posting on this site his user name would be Babar160. He just doesn't understand that there are other possibilities beyond this holy grail of scores batting first.

 

[SalimBhai]

we were about 80 runs short today

 

[Kianig89]

Fire the mgmt. Or Burst the mgmt. Such an off day already knew we can string 3 wins in a row bcz the mgmt.is all subjective no planning no vision