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First Test between India [172 & 352/8d] and Sri Lanka [294 & 75/7] ends in a draw

Rain forecasted for next 2 days, unlikely that we will get many overs in.

Poor ticket sales, rain, winter time and opposition is SL. Seems like Indian test cricket fans have lost interest in this series unless SL competes.

ODI/ T20 should have better crowds.
 
Not sure why this series is even held at this time. If two days are rained off, we wouldn't get enough cricket to get a result. Also few people who might be interested in turning up for the game will be put away by the weather.
 
giri26 said:
Not sure why this series is even held at this time. If two days are rained off, we wouldn't get enough cricket to get a result. Also few people who might be interested in turning up for the game will be put away by the weather.
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This rain is not seasonal. Can't be predicted months in advance.
 
Wake up call to those interested!!!

Match is starting and SL are bowling first on a green track and under cloud cover!!!!

Yeeehaaaaa!!!
 
Seems like India want to get ready for SA series with a green top like this.

Lakmal’s figures look unreal, was into his 5th over and has 2 wickets and given away 0 runs lols.
 
LOL

Batting first on a green top after losing toss, 17/2 with Kohli and Pujara at crease.
Bad light stops play.
 
Kohli gone for 0 from 11 balls.

Lakmal 6 overs: 6 maidens and 3 wickets, amazing!
 
Time for Rahane to prove why he is rated as the best Asian batsmen to pick for pacer friendly conditions.
 
Good start for Sri Lanka. Hope they don't let a big partnership build. They should look to get the hosts all out for under 200.
 
Ab Fan said:
Who is that guy? Never heard of him.
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It is amazing how Pakistanis boast of their average cricketers! That guy has hardly played any test matches (forget away from home) and not even 1 century in any format, and he is superior to Rahane (and maybe even Kohli & Tendulkar!)
 
WhenSultansBowled said:
He has serious problems in 5th/6th stump line and whenever conditions/skills are present: the bowlers will exploit it :jimmy :junaid

But hey let's reject the facts! :yk
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And People here say he is a better test batsman than Sachin.Proves my point that he is not half good as a pure batsman as Sachin.
 
200 will be a great score on this pitch it seems. There is swing/seam and great bounce. Pacers dream pitch.
 
R0H1T said:
Based on what, 2 zip in the UAE :D
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Ofcourse not , even though he already looked like Pakistan's best test batsman there. I base my view on his domestic record in great conditions for fast bowling. It might be early for you to call him the best Asian test batsman against swing and seam, but having seem enough of his abilities, its not early for me.

Ab Fan said:
Who is that guy? Never heard of him.
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He is Pakistani batsman. Played 2 tests against Lanka. Refer to my post to Rohit above.
 
RamLakhan said:
It is amazing how Pakistanis boast of their average cricketers! That guy has hardly played any test matches (forget away from home) and not even 1 century in any format, and he is superior to Rahane (and maybe even Kohli & Tendulkar!)
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He is superior to Kohli, Rahane or any tom dick harry India can dish out from its current batch of batsmen. Lets make one thing clear, We are talking purely about batting against swing and seam in the longest format.
 
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Madplayer said:
Ofcourse not , even though he already looked like Pakistan's best test batsman there. I base my view on his domestic record in great conditions for fast bowling. It might be early for you to call him the best Asian test batsman against swing and seam, but having seem enough of his abilities, its not early for me.


He is Pakistani batsman. Played 2 tests against Lanka. Refer to my post to Rohit above.
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And having seen Rahane's domestic FC record, he avged 60+ i.e. higher than Pujara whilst batting at 3 or opening for Mumbai, I disagree with your assessment.

FC are anything but indicative of your performance at the intl level, sure he might become the greatest (test) batsman from Pak, but let that play out first before acknowledging his potential greatness.
 
Madplayer said:
He is superior to Kohli, Rahane or any tom dick harry India can dish out from its current batch of batsmen. Lets make one thing clear, We are talking purely about batting against swing and seam in the longest format.
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No notable performances outside Asia against international teams like Rahane yet.So doesnt matter how he batted against domestic trundlers.
 
Dingolfy said:
And People here say he is a better test batsman than Sachin.Proves my point that he is not half good as a pure batsman as Sachin.
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That's because people do not consider all the facts which have hugely favored VK's (and other batsmen of our era e.g.:ABDV etc.) ODI stats. Now VK is an ATG in ODI chases, that's an undeniable fact, but if someone like SRT or Lara had same bat size, bowling standards, powerplay rules, DRS system etc: then they would be devastating as well.
 
Say what you may .... but the Indians were definitely hampered by the dim light !!!!! That’s the brakes .... Toss was very pivotal !!!!
 
And some fans think we are going to beat South Africa in South Africa. We are too dependent on Kohli. Get ready to receive the phainty in South Africa.
 
Pujara again playing difficult spells and making life easier for the coming batsmen. Lost count on how many times he has done that. 8 off 43 against the new ball this time in difficult conditions and the next batsmen will now find it easy as the shine of bowl is gone. Criminally underrated guy.
 
WhenSultansBowled said:
He has serious problems in 5th/6th stump line and whenever conditions/skills are present: the bowlers will exploit it :jimmy :junaid

But hey let's reject the facts! :yk
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Sach bolna aik jurm hai aur ham ne ye jurm qabool kia :) - Jon Elia

Have said it multiple times that the guy struggles against seam and swing and lucky to be playing in this era against less difficult bowling. But Indians and self hating Pakistanis say I am a biased hater :) Yes a biased hater will have the opinion that Kohli is the best odi batsman of last 15 years.

Anyways, there are only 2 occasions when I saw this guy surviving against good seam/swing bowling. First time against SA in test match an 2nd time against Amir in Asia Cup. Sorry but not good enough!
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
And some fans think we are going to beat South Africa in South Africa. We are too dependent on Kohli. Get ready to receive the phainty in South Africa.
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Rahane is much better batsman than Kohli outside Asia.He is our best out of the current lot against pacers.
 
India have a lot of hard work to do to win this game . Need Rahane and Pujara to get a partnership going then take it from there.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
And some fans think we are going to beat South Africa in South Africa. We are too dependent on Kohli. Get ready to receive the phainty in South Africa.
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On this pitch, under the lights, BK could roll SL under 100 very easily, you;re making it sound as if this is the first time we see this happening? Also the innings is not over & SL have yet to bat, though if the conditions ease out on day 2/3 then the toss could be the real game changer!
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Sach bolna aik jurm hai aur ham ne ye jurm qabool kia :) - Jon Elia

Have said it multiple times that the guy struggles against seam and swing and lucky to be playing in this era against less difficult bowling. But Indians and self hating Pakistanis say I am a biased hater :) Yes a biased hater will have the opinion that Kohli is the best odi batsman of last 15 years.

Anyways, there are only 2 occasions when I saw this guy surviving against good seam/swing bowling. First time against SA in test match an 2nd time against Amir in Asia Cup. Sorry but not good enough!
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Before you start patting yourself on the back and doing a banghra, watch Kohlis dismissal. It had absolutely nothing to do with swing or seam.He just missed a straight ball.
 
Hasan123 said:
Before you start patting yourself on the back and doing a banghra, watch Kohlis dismissal. It had absolutely nothing to do with swing or seam.He just missed a straight ball.
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lol i watched it. So it had nothing to do the struggle he had in first 10 balls?
as i said self hating Pakistanis again having problem with anyone pointing flaws in their hero's game :)
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
lol i watched it. So it had nothing to do the struggle he had in first 10 balls?
as i said self hating Pakistanis again having problem with anyone pointing flaws in their hero's game :)
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He hasn't scored a run so I think he was eager to get off the mark, he has a weakness versus the moving ball but that wasn't the reason for his dismissal today.
 
Hasan123 said:
He hasn't scored a run so I think he was eager to get off the mark, he has a weakness versus the moving ball but that wasn't the reason for his dismissal today.
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He didnt score a run because he was struggling against the moving ball. Many a times, a dismissal is not just 1 ball rather a process. Ask Mohammad Asif and watch his interviews to know more on this.

I would say even in the CT the reason of Kohli's dismissal and drop catch were the balls he faced before those ones. Amir was bringing the ball into him and Rohit. Kohli was cautious early on but then wanted to score and then he played a flawed shot trying to flick the ball. Like today it had to do with his struggle against the moving ball.
 
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SarfiBabarHaris said:
He didnt score a run because he was struggling against the moving ball. Many a times, a dismissal is not just 1 ball rather a process. Ask Mohammad Asif and watch his interviews to know more on this.

I would say even in the CT the reason of Kohli's dismissal and drop catch were the balls he faced before those ones. Amir was bringing the ball into him and Rohit. Kohli was cautious early on but then wanted to score and then he played a flawed shot trying to flick the ball. Like today it had to do with his struggle against the moving ball.
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I think today he just missed a straight ball because he was eager to get off the mark.

But CT wicket was definitely due to a weakness against the moving ball which needs to be corrected.
 
Hasan123 said:
He hasn't scored a run so I think he was eager to get off the mark, he has a weakness versus the moving ball but that wasn't the reason for his dismissal today.
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Lakmal set him up, he was bowling outswinger's at the Indians and maintained a nagging off stump line, Kohli expected the one to move way and played a meek shot which would have put him in trouble regardless
 
shaz619 said:
Lakmal set him up, he was bowling outswinger's at the Indians and maintained a nagging off stump line, Kohli expected the one to move way and played a meek shot which would have put him in trouble regardless
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It was a straight ball had it moved away or come back in , than I would say he got out due to the seam or swing. There have been other occasions where Kohli has been dismissed due to movement off the pitch.
 
Hasan123 said:
It was a straight ball had it moved away or come back in , than I would say he got out due to the seam or swing. There have been other occasions where Kohli has been dismissed due to movement off the pitch.
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It was a straight ball but were it not for the movement in Lakmal's spell that shot may not have been played and resulted in his dismissal because he was thinking about the out swinger, lateral movement issues are not limited to being undone by movement off the pitch but a specific spell you're faced with as a whole and how bowlers set you up in such conditions
 
Hasan123 said:
It was a straight ball had it moved away or come back in , than I would say he got out due to the seam or swing. There have been other occasions where Kohli has been dismissed due to movement off the pitch.
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When the ball is swinging and seaming both ways, it meddles with the batsmen's thinking-process. Kohli was not comfortable against the moving ball which is why he ended up missing a straighter one. He was playing for the swing, and he would not have missed the delivery if the ball was not swinging.

That is why on rank-turners, batsmen often get out to arm-balls.
 
Mamoon said:
When the ball is swinging and seaming both ways, it meddles with the batsmen's thinking-process. Kohli was not comfortable against the moving ball which is why he ended up missing a straighter one. He was playing for the swing, and he would not have missed the delivery if the ball was not swinging.

That is why on rank-turners, batsmen often get out to arm-balls.
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He didn;t necessarily miss it, it was shaping to swing away but pitched & then darted back in, natural variation.

Yes, exactly.
 
DRsohail said:
kohli has long way to go in tests.
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Kohli is the second greatest ODI batsman of all time already, so he will always pale in comparison in Test cricket. The problem is that he has set extremely high standards in ODIs and unless he replicates it in Tests, people are going to nitpick his failures. He will go down as an ATG in Tests but he is unlikely to become a top 5 player, which he already is in ODIs.

If you look at his Test career in isolation, he is world class through and through, and slowly but surely heading to greatness. Pakistani fans likes to party every time he fails in difficult conditions, but the fact is that his weakness against the moving ball is overstated. He has piled up the runs everywhere except England, and that series was a one-off.

He will score in South Africa and he will score in England in the summer, but yes those wickets will be flat. Whether or not a pitch is easy or difficult to score on depends on how many runs he gets.
 
R0H1T said:
He didn;t necessarily miss it, it was shaping to swing away but pitched & then darted back in, natural variation.

Yes, exactly.
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I didn't see the dismissal properly. I saw a grainy, 240p video on YouTube where I saw the ball angling into his pads. I didn't notice any movement.
 
Sachin136 said:
In 5 years, he'll be considered to be better in tests than ODIs.
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He will have to do something miraculous to be considered better in Tests than in ODIs. He is going to down as the greatest ODI batsman of all time, which is not going to happen in Tests. His legacy will be similar to Viv Richards. ATG in both formats, but the ultimate ODI player.
 
Mamoon said:
Kohli is the second greatest ODI batsman of all time already, so he will always pale in comparison in Test cricket. The problem is that he has set extremely high standards in ODIs and unless he replicates it in Tests, people are going to nitpick his failures. He will go down as an ATG in Tests but he is unlikely to become a top 5 player, which he already is in ODIs.

If you look at his Test career in isolation, he is world class through and through, and slowly but surely heading to greatness. Pakistani fans likes to party every time he fails in difficult conditions, but the fact is that his weakness against the moving ball is overstated. He has piled up the runs everywhere except England, and that series was a one-off.

He will score in South Africa and he will score in England in the summer, but yes those wickets will be flat. Whether or not a pitch is easy or difficult to score on depends on how many runs he gets.
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if he scores in SA that will be great fr him but atm pujara and rehane have higher ceilings than him in testing conditions.
 
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Mamoon said:
Kohli is the second greatest ODI batsman of all time already, so he will always pale in comparison in Test cricket. The problem is that he has set extremely high standards in ODIs and unless he replicates it in Tests, people are going to nitpick his failures. He will go down as an ATG in Tests but he is unlikely to become a top 5 player, which he already is in ODIs.

If you look at his Test career in isolation, he is world class through and through, and slowly but surely heading to greatness. Pakistani fans likes to party every time he fails in difficult conditions, but the fact is that his weakness against the moving ball is overstated. He has piled up the runs everywhere except England, and that series was a one-off.

He will score in South Africa and he will score in England in the summer, but yes those wickets will be flat. Whether or not a pitch is easy or difficult to score on depends on how many runs he gets.
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This is basically the point I'm trying to make. He has a weakness against the moving ball but posters on here are doing banghra over 1 failure. I think today's dismissal was more due to the fact he hasn't got off the mark and the swing factor played a slight part. Look at 2016 versus Amir in Asia cup, when Kohlis at his best and scoring the pitch is taken out of the equation.
 
DRsohail said:
if he scores in Sa that will be great but atm pujara and rehane have higher ceilings than him in testing conditions.
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Pujara has failed more often in testing conditions. He is a grinder and bats for long periods of time which gives people the impression that he can handle tough conditions better. He might play lateral movement slightly better than Kohli, but he is nowhere close when it comes to playing short-pitched bowling.

Kohli is the best Test batsman in Asia by some distance. Pujara and Rahane do not have the game to put the opposition on the back-foot. That is why Kohli is the most prized wicket in India.
 
Mamoon said:
Pujara has failed more often in testing conditions. He is a grinder and bats for long periods of time which gives people the impression that he can handle tough conditions better. He might play lateral movement slightly better than Kohli, but he is nowhere close when it comes to playing short-pitched bowling.

Kohli is the best Test batsman in Asia by some distance. Pujara and Rahane do not have the game to put the opposition on the back-foot. That is why Kohli is the most prized wicket in India.
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Pujara didn't do well that in Australia and South Africa last time?
 
Mamoon said:
Pujara has failed more often in testing conditions. He is a grinder and bats for long periods of time which gives people the impression that he can handle tough conditions better. He might play lateral movement slightly better than Kohli, but he is nowhere close when it comes to playing short-pitched bowling.

Kohli is the best Test batsman in Asia by some distance. Pujara and Rahane do not have the game to put the opposition on the back-foot. That is why Kohli is the most prized wicket in India.
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lets see what both of them do in away tour but i have high expectations from the Pujara ,if the conditions were a bit flat then kohli and rahul will dominate but grinders like Pujara has value in such conditions.
 
Hasan123 said:
This is basically the point I'm trying to make. He has a weakness against the moving ball but posters on here are doing banghra over 1 failure. I think today's dismissal was more due to the fact he hasn't got off the mark and the swing factor played a slight part. Look at 2016 versus Amir in Asia cup, when Kohlis at his best and scoring the pitch is taken out of the equation.
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In such conditions, all batsmen fail often, including the best Test batsman in the world Smith. He failed in three Tests in England when the conditions were tough for batting, and our very own legend Younis averaged 4 in NZ earlier this year on green-tops. However, only Kohli is supposed to score a hundred every innings on a green wicket.

Root is the best batsman in the world against swing bowling these days, especially now that Amla is in decline.
 
Mamoon said:
In such conditions, all batsmen fail often, including the best Test batsman in the world Smith. He failed in three Tests in England when the conditions were tough for batting, and our very own legend Younis averaged 4 in NZ earlier this year on green-tops. However, only Kohli is supposed to score a hundred every innings on a green wicket.

Root is the best batsman in the world against swing bowling these days, especially now that Amla is in decline.
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Yes that's a fair point but Kohli will have to score a couple of times versus lateral movement. He's done well versus pace and bounce so I don't see him consistently failing versus lateral movement.
 
Mamoon said:
In such conditions, all batsmen fail often, including the best Test batsman in the world Smith. He failed in three Tests in England when the conditions were tough for batting, and our very own legend Younis averaged 4 in NZ earlier this year on green-tops. However, only Kohli is supposed to score a hundred every innings on a green wicket.

Root is the best batsman in the world against swing bowling these days, especially now that Amla is in decline.
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Bro i am a big admirer of the great batsman but he has to prove himself if he wanna be a test ATG,he is all ready odi ATG so no issues there but here ATC is not just made on average otherwise younus would have been ATG but u have to prove urself in testing conditions and Kohli has to do it most of the times if not aalways.
 
Mamoon said:
He was good in South Africa, but he failed in England alongside Kohli and was nowhere near him in Australia.
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But people still think he's better than Kohli in tests? I think Pujara needs to improve overseas.
 
India is missing a Vijay like batsman. Vijay and Pujara have played many difficult spells making life for likes of Kohli, Rahane, Ashwin and Saha easy and as a result providing great value for the team which is not shown in their numbers..

Where is the guy now? Another underrated cricketer.
 
Hasan123 said:
But people still think he's better than Kohli in tests? I think Pujara needs to improve overseas.
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Pujara played an outstanding innings on a difficult pitch in Sri Lanka, and he generally bats longer than Kohli. That is why people have the impression that he is a better batsman than Kohli, but that is simply not true. No team in the world would opt for Pujara over Kohli.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
India is missing a Vijay like batsman. Vijay and Pujara have played many difficult spells making life for likes of Kohli, Rahane, Ashwin and Saha easy and as a result providing great value for the team which is not shown in their numbers..

Where is the guy now? Another underrated cricketer.
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India had a choice of Dhwaan,KL,and Vijay. They opted to leave Vijay out. I think the reason for this is because if Dhwaan can see of the new ball he can take the game away from the opposition. Also he is a left hander and performed versus Sri Lanka in the last test series.

I would have gone with Vijay and KL for this game
 
Kohli has the same problem Pietersen had. Bat doesn't come down straight unless conscious effort is made.

Got sucked into playing a leg glance but didn't fully commit and resorted back to a half-defensive shot hence the lack of forward press and the backfoot not fully grounded at contact. He covered the line pretty well. A fully committed defensive shot and he'd still be there. He looks pretty good technically, just a mental error.

There might've been some deviation but not enough to beat the bat. He was beaten for length mostly.
 
Vijay is slowly being phased out. He will be 34 in a few months and Dhawan has a couple of years on him. In KL Rahul, they already have a premier opener who can hold his own in tough conditions and also cash in big time later on, something that Vijay didn't always do because of his limitations.

Dhawan provides them with an attacking option who can put the opposition on the back-foot. I think we are going to see a lot of KL Rahul and Dhawan moving forward.

Vijay put in a good shift for a few years, but I think India is now planning ahead.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
India is missing a Vijay like batsman. Vijay and Pujara have played many difficult spells making life for likes of Kohli, Rahane, Ashwin and Saha easy and as a result providing great value for the team which is not shown in their numbers..

Where is the guy now? Another underrated cricketer.
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They're just trying someone out with Dhawan. Vijay is still India's first choice opener.
 
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