If Shami is fit I would continue to play him as he is a rhythm bowler. The more he bowls the more his bowling will get better.
Well then chances of winning from PK will be 50% less..
Should be fine.Bumrah's fitness precedes any cup for india.Pak has thrown shaheen, naseem etc in to dust by pushing them when there are not fit .India must avoid that nonsense.
It is not just bowling. Shami has to field for 50 overs. In domestic he can go take rest after his spell. In international he has to field. He doesn't run well at all. Looks way short of match fitness.
If Bumrah is completely fit than play in champion trophy if not then no need to play as simple as .
No need to take any risks with half fit Bumrah .
he is National treasure for us so don't runied his carrer by playing half fit
Not happening. He will miss even the WC's maybe - but no one not only him will be missing the IPL. Livelihood at stake here ! It is just what it is
I think we have one test series in nz in 26 and sa in 27 dec ? .at max both will be 2 test matches.At home he should not play any more test matches.semi retirement is mandatory. Both rohit and gambhir are like kids who don't know with what they dealing.Gambhir was asking Bumrah's inclusion in every match and rohit will think bumrah as a mere work horse.
IPL & Tests. He deserves a great Test career. Atleats 300 wickets. If the tier 1/tier 2 system is put into place he will only play SENA nobody else anyway.
If Bumrah retired from test cricket than how he will be play In BGT and England test series as both of series are part of test Cricket?
Rohit is one selfish guy with his PR team his latest ODI hundred not withstanding.. Couldnt believe how he was bowling Bumrah into the dirt in BGT and also in the home NZ series on Ind pitches ! He's a thorough bred horse, not a work horse..
Thats why I said semi retire or maybe the term I should have used should have been "selectively" play test cricket only in Aus and Eng and ICC events plus IPLIf Bumrah retired from test cricket than how he will be play In BGT and England test series as both of series are part of test Cricket?
Fast bowlers have limited life spans unlike batters. Problem is Ind captains are not judicious in using pacers like Bumrah, they will just way over bowl him for their selfishness.
Rohit is the only clown that does that in Australia. He used himself better actually. In India anyway he is used only as a strike option. It will be spinners that will rule the roost.
I hope next test captain should give value to test matches and sensible
Now that Shami is on his last legs we need a revamp anyway. We have to slowly introduce new seamers. (Not the likes of Mukesh).
Pakistan had the chance to throw india out of the champion trophy when india refused to go to pakistan but begger's ( ICC and other board's) don't have any other options as they needed india cricket team to earn the revenues.
Pakistan should focus on themselves rather than worrying about throwing anyone out of anything.Pakistan had the chance to throw india out of the champion trophy when india refused to go to pakistan but begger's ( ICC and other board's) don't have any other options as they needed india cricket team to earn the revenues.
Pakistan fans should Focus on how to win the match as in the last ICC tournaments they Have lost to USA than cried about rain instead trying to he oversmart .
Not all. But some have inferiority complex. If you say BGT is the better than Ashes , they will pull all the stops to deny that. Not because they care about Ashes. But because it dilutes the rivalry with them. Same here. If you say you don't care they will go greath lengths to prove otherwise lol. Because they are hosting it. One of the biggest hypocricy is when they were losing Tests one "major" point is "Tests are dying "In this modern world" nobody has time to watch 5 days". Moment they win and los T20. "It is a pyjama cricket". Now when they lose one day "In this modern world" nobody has time to watch the match whole day.Pakistan fans should Focus on how to win the match as in the last ICC tournaments they Have lost to USA than cried about rain instead trying to he oversmart .
Well put.
Bumrah is not rested at all .he is having fitness issues and back surgery for a fast bowler is a serious injury
Bumrah should focus on the England series, especially after his disappointing experience in the last Champions Trophy.
Still can't forget his no ball.
People's did not forget happy memories of own favourite team's so easily .Last Champions Trophy was 8 years ago when he was an up and coming bowler. Now in 2025 he has established himself as the greatest fast bowler of all time from Asian sub continent.
In these 8 years, Bumrah has given many match winning performances like below:
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Wonder why you are not able to forget that no ball from 8 years ago?
@Devadwal
Because we lost that match against Pakistan, and NRI fans like you were sprinting out of the stadium faster than our bowlers were running back to their marks in the final .Last Champions Trophy was 8 years ago when he was an up and coming bowler. Now in 2025 he has established himself as the greatest fast bowler of all time from Asian sub continent.
In these 8 years, Bumrah has given many match winning performances like below:
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Wonder why you are not able to forget that no ball from 8 years ago?
@Devadwal
These matches were against Honolulu according to one poster.Last Champions Trophy was 8 years ago when he was an up and coming bowler. Now in 2025 he has established himself as the greatest fast bowler of all time from Asian sub continent.
In these 8 years, Bumrah has given many match winning performances like below:
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Wonder why you are not able to forget that no ball from 8 years ago?
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This thread is about the Champions Trophy and the England series, but sure, let’s drag in a T20 tournament and derail it again. I mean, Bumrah bowled a no-ball once, but some members cross the line in every thread like it’s a daily routine.People's did not forget happy memories of own favourite team's so easily .
Bumrah few months ago win a ICC trophy for india from impossible situation.
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Because we lost that match against Pakistan, and NRI fans like you were sprinting out of the stadium faster than our bowlers were running back to their marks in the final .
This thread is about champion trophy 2025 and England tour but you bring 2017 incident to derailed the thread .This thread is about the Champions Trophy and the England series, but sure, let’s drag in a T20 tournament and derail it again. I mean, Bumrah bowled a no-ball once, but some members cross the line in every thread like it’s a daily routine.
That is not true either. He bowled 2 no balls in the same game in semi finals vs West Indies in 2016 WT20 at Numbai which costed us that game and perhaps the tournament. However because it was not against Pakistan, you perhaps dnt remember it.This thread is about the Champions Trophy and the England series, but sure, let’s drag in a T20 tournament and derail it again. I mean, Bumrah bowled a no-ball once, but some members cross the line in every thread like it’s a daily routine.
Where did the 2016 WT20 come from? Did I ever say that was the only no-ball he’s bowled in his career? Looks like my post hit a nerve. Maybe take a breather.That is not true either. He bowled 2 no balls in the same game in semi finals vs West Indies in 2016 WT20 at Numbai which costed us that game and perhaps the tournament. However because it was not against Pakistan, you perhaps dnt remember it.
Same place from where 2017 Champions trophy came from.Where did the 2016 WT20 come from? Did I ever say that was the only no-ball he’s bowled in his career? Looks like my post hit a nerve. Maybe take a breather.
We can talk about Champions Trophy here because the thread is discussing it.
In short no one is watching the pak
: 1) Wasim Akram 
- 53 Wickets @28.73 2) Mohammad Amir - 49 Wickets @25.55 3) Imran Khan - 47 Wickets @24.63 4) Waqar Younis - 45 Wickets @27.48 5) Jasprit Bumrah 
- 37 Wickets @26.27..
Bumrah needs 17 Wickets to break the record of Wasim Akram in EnglandBest Bowlers of South Asia in England
It is a very important tour for Bumrah in his Career as he has a chance to rewrite the records set by Pakistan Bowlers in England to emerge as the Best Bowler from South Asia in England
hope he does it with a better average than Imran Khan.
Champions trophy became lame only because Pakistan was hosting it.. There was no other reason.
If we are talking about pure cricket point of view than Pakistan hosting the champion trophy only increase it value as Pakistan is going to host a ICC tournament after 30 years.
Not just that brother, the fact it hasn't happened for all these years really says a lot about the relevance of it. Always saw it as needless event after we had T20 WCs every 2 years.
Hopefully you have some thoughts about 2013 tournament....the only final where Kohli ever performed
Only two CT I even recall are Yuvi/Zaheer debut one and the one you guys won in 2017. Was never really into it.
But you and all of us know, that is not going to happen.
You seem more interested in Pakistan’s stadiums than even their own fans. It’s time to accept that the ICC Champions Trophy is happening in Pakistan, and matches will go on regardless of the construction work. Maybe it is time to shift your focus to the UAE now.I just watched a yesterday videos of Pindi cricket ground ( Outside ) and Guess what there is zero marketing of ICC champions trophy instead on ground main building there are some posters which from Pakistan ODI Cup.
This is how Pakistan going to marketing of the champion trophy @BouncerGuy @The Bald Eagle ?
You seem more interested in Pakistan’s stadiums than even their own fans. It’s time to accept that the ICC Champions Trophy is happening in Pakistan, and matches will go on regardless of the construction work. Maybe it is time to shift your focus to the UAE now.
