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For Indian fans: Which one hurts the most? 152/0 by Pakistan or 170/0 by England?

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Never thought we would be decimated like this by England in the semi final of the world cup but it was expected because we had a team full of overhyped and overrated cricketers. 152/0 still hurt me the most because it ended our world cup streak. Which one hurt you the most? Post your opinion. :inti
 
This 170-0 was an absolute brutal show

152-0 is overrated
 
I think both doesn’t matter cuz IPL is coming soon.

These doesn’t matter only IPL
 
Obviously this one.

Pakistan’s win was overrated. It was dictated by the toss.
 
in all seriousness- this was funny .
As a pak fan - the other one I was nervous. very nervous
 
This one was just brutal.

170/0 in 16 overs in a KO game.

Doesn't get more one sided than that.
 
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Obviously this one.

Pakistan’s win was overrated. It was dictated by the toss.

😂 dry your tears. We all know you will supporting england in final now as your team india is out.
 
Indians will not admit. Nothing hurts them more than MAULING against Pak in an ICC tournament.
 
This one Hurts the most....Don't remember being so disappointed over a match last time...We have been totally trashed by England...
 
Of course it goes the other way around as well. We certainly don't wanna get embarrassed by Ind EVER.
 
Sure the 152/0 will hurt more as it was against Pakistan. This 170/0 is a new wound. Total humiliation for India.
 
This one must hurt far more.

The batting during the 152/0 game is overrated because it was largely toss dependent.

Also, Shaheen bowled an ATG performance. When you're up against that, you can't do anything about it except say well done.

England's bowling was nowhere near as good as what India faced against Pakistan last year. It was rich of Rohit to blame the bowlers because it was him who let the team down by wasting 28 deliveries for just 27 runs.
 
Neither. It hurts more if you lose by 1 wicket than by 10 wickets. Losing by 10 wickets mean your mind is already prepared by the time you lose. Till date the loss to NZ in the 2019 SF hurts the most. It was a winnable game and Indian team was the strongest at that time with spin twins, decent pace bowling and great batting line up.

This is the team that didn't go out of group stage in the last world cup and this year's Asia cup. The expectations were low but the win against Pak gave hope of SF spot. India reached SF, batted according to their plan they had all tournament and lost because of poor bowling. No regrets on this one. Decent campaign overall and good memories except the SF ofcourse.
 
From an Indian perspective, matches vs Pakistan and England matter more for obvious reasons, and to be assassinated by 10 wickets against both teams is just utter utter humiliation.

I will be tuning into Indian news channels tonight for sure! Cannot wait for the dramatic music! :)))
 
this one.
Hopefully, we start moving away from picking 120kmph pea shooting Sir bhuvi sobers type of bowlers for whom the wk stands up to the stumps in the opening over.
Even his mom should disown him if she has any ghairaat.
Hopefully sir Bhuvi swinging legend incarnation of kallis/steyn/klusener has played his last match for india along with rohit/ash/kl/ akshar and we also let Sir Dravid go and take charge of the U-19 team where he was doing a good job.
Hopefully, the emphasis gets back on pace and our pitches improve instead of being the pathetic turners they are.
I'd still back our guys to come back strongly the next WC/ICC tourney - the sun will still rise tommorow - we will still have the asian games coming up soon/the world championships in various sports to savour.
Meanwhile - good luck to our neighbours and hope to see my fav Shanawaz dahani playing in the finalz..cheers:Dah
 
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Ind got nothing but fluky win against Pak and well deserved thrashing in SF to get the report card they deserved ��
 
Question is addressed to Indian fans but interestingly we have posts from Pakistani 'fans' belittling our teams achievement
 
Was expecting replies from experts like [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION] [MENTION=146232]jeeteshssaxena[/MENTION] [MENTION=139758]pillionrider[/MENTION] [MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION] [MENTION=151350]Mesozoic[/MENTION] [MENTION=113824]Nikhil_cric[/MENTION] here. :inti

Was a about to post not many Indians commenting, we need to give them a bit of time after this. You're being too cruel putting this thread up immediately.
 
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Instead of having pomegranate, Pakistanis should be watching Ind news channels for good health- 1 hr in morning and one in evening
 
Neither. It hurts more if you lose by 1 wicket than by 10 wickets. Losing by 10 wickets mean your mind is already prepared by the time you lose. Till date the loss to NZ in the 2019 SF hurts the most. It was a winnable game and Indian team was the strongest at that time with spin twins, decent pace bowling and great batting line up.

This is the team that didn't go out of group stage in the last world cup and this year's Asia cup. The expectations were low but the win against Pak gave hope of SF spot. India reached SF, batted according to their plan they had all tournament and lost because of poor bowling. No regrets on this one. Decent campaign overall and good memories except the SF ofcourse.

Maybe your expectations were low but most indian fans were ready to bring the cup home. Asking other teams to pack their bags and hyping guys like Pant to the moon before semis and finals are examples of that. :inti
 
Was a about to post not many Indians commenting, we need to give them a bit of time after this. You're being too cruel putting this tread up immediately.

This is the best time to get their reactions. They won't be here for next couple of days and if Pakistan wins the final you won't see them here for couple of weeks. :inti
 
Maybe your expectations were low but most indian fans were ready to bring the cup home. Asking other teams to pack their bags and hyping guys like Pant to the moon before semis and finals are examples of that. :inti

Dunno what prob you have with Rishabh for a long time. Yes, he has under delivered in this wc also overall in white ball cricket.
He also has played some legendary innings in tests that a lot of other team's supporters including yours can only dream off. on SENA pitches. i doubt if you ever even acknowledged that.
Any ways, you are right here and i will concede that. good luck for the finals!
 
152 - 0 will haunt them for a very veey long time. Came against an arch-rival. The toss excuse is only to make them feel a little better but they know deep down it hurts them bad :)

170 - 0 is the most embarrassing and most humiliating defeat to any team in a semi-final. Absolute next level thrashing this was in front of full house Indian fans. They only made it to semi by luck, such an average team SA was a much better side
 
Dunno what prob you have with Rishabh for a long time. Yes, he has under delivered in this wc also overall in white ball cricket.
He also has played some legendary innings in tests that a lot of other team's supporters including yours can only dream off. on SENA pitches. i doubt if you ever even acknowledged that.
Any ways, you are right here and i will concede that. good luck for the finals!

You are still asking that lol? Visit the Rishabh Pant thread and look at the amount of overhyping that is going in that thread. At least I have stats to back up my disappointments with him. And yeah I have acknowledged whenever he played well in test cricket. I even praised Pandya today. But don't expect any criticism from Pant fans when he plays poorly. That's the difference. :inti
 
Neither. It is a T20 game. No t20 game loss hurts me. Semi final world cup vs NZ hurts though.
 
What did Indian fans expect?

India FLUKED the win vs Pakistan and only because Pakistan choked and threw away the match by bowling terribly.

India got extremely lucky Vs Bangladesh. Not only did the rain save them once but Litton's fluke runout and senseless batting from the rest cost Bangladesh an easy win.

Then India lost to SA.


Don't worry though, IPL is right around the corner. International players will still come to IPL for those lovely millions and continue to play better cricket when it truly matters in international tournaments.
 
Obviously this one.

Pakistan’s win was overrated. It was dictated by the toss.

Sorry for your loss .

Spicy Lentils , good Bollywood movie & a modi speech may help .

Both were humiliating but India after all this time have no fast bowlers of any quality.
 
Maybe your expectations were low but most indian fans were ready to bring the cup home. Asking other teams to pack their bags and hyping guys like Pant to the moon before semis and finals are examples of that. :inti

The expectations were high after that win against Pak. Otherwise, the fans were half dead when Bumrah was injured. It was a good campaign overall in this world cup. Yes, half the players are over the hill and will depart. Once you qualify for SF, you want to win it and go to the final. It's only natural. You evaluate when you lose. Not when you win.
 
Obviously this one.

Pakistan’s win was overrated. It was dictated by the toss.

Naah usual trundlers couldn't do what a bowling team is supposed to do. Its okay if it helps you but you have received absolute thrashing. For all the memes run you do here... You deserve such loses wholeheartedly. You are hurt today, deeply hurt so it's okay, shed a few more tears it will help :)
 
The test series win in Australia 2018 and 2020 outperforms both the T20 tamasha format losses. This really sets it up for the Indian ODI team now to back the right players for 2023 ODI World Cup especially clutch players based on right conditions. I would like to see Shreyas Iyer as one of them for the 2023 World Cup.

Coming to the actual reasoning behind today's loss, this was on the cards obviously and I had already predicted earlier that Pakistan and England were hot favourites for this tournament alongwith Australia.

India weren't favourites and the four teams sitting at the middle in the induction ceremony were the ones who were actually favourites as already pointed out by multiple posters over here.

With the team we had and the stubbornness shown behind the backing of opening combination of Rohit and Rahul went against us and as a result, a semi final exit looks good on paper. Losing vs the tournaments favourites is not a poor end of the campaign and it isn't something to be feel disheartened about, personally I won't. We did beat the other favourites though in a high pressure game.

Hopefully, Pandya as T20I captain will take this team forward and help India pick a clutch team with the likes of Gill, Pant, Shreyas Iyer, Siraj, Bishnoi and Pandya himself being central figures.
 
The test series win in Australia 2018 and 2020 outperforms both the T20 tamasha format losses. This really sets it up for the Indian ODI team now to back the right players for 2023 ODI World Cup especially clutch players based on right conditions. I would like to see Shreyas Iyer as one of them for the 2023 World Cup.

Coming to the actual reasoning behind today's loss, this was on the cards obviously and I had already predicted earlier that Pakistan and England were hot favourites for this tournament alongwith Australia.

India weren't favourites and the four teams sitting at the middle in the induction ceremony were the ones who were actually favourites as already pointed out by multiple posters over here.

With the team we had and the stubbornness shown behind the backing of opening combination of Rohit and Rahul went against us and as a result, a semi final exit looks good on paper. Losing vs the tournaments favourites is not a poor end of the campaign and it isn't something to be feel disheartened about, personally I won't. We did beat the other favourites though in a high pressure game.

Hopefully, Pandya as T20I captain will take this team forward and help India pick a clutch team with the likes of Gill, Pant, Shreyas Iyer, Siraj, Bishnoi and Pandya himself being central figures.

No Gill please. He's another 40 ball 50 player. Gotto go big or bust like England. But definitely no Rahul. This is the last WC for Rohit, Kohli, Ashwin, Shami and BK anyway. That Bishnoy kid looks a good spinner. Not sure where Kuldeep is. Siraj yes and maybe Umran Malik.
 
Obviously this one.

Pakistan’s win was overrated. It was dictated by the toss.

Well anyway twice in the WT20 back to back mauled 152-0 and 170-0 must be new records for India as they did 36 all out in the same ground today few years back
 
Sorry for your loss .

Spicy Lentils , good Bollywood movie & a modi speech may help .

Both were humiliating but India after all this time have no fast bowlers of any quality.

Thanks for your concerns and your suggestions on what to do with our free time.
As a true lover of pace bowling - i still am a fan of your pace attack and wish you well.

Reality also is, with all the phaast bowling & the tallunt bahoot hai in your ranks, the baayz still are 0-12 consecutive in tests in a particular country (am not even saying hemisphere).
We'll take our wins in 2018 and 2020 any day- cheers bhaijaan...and all the very best for the finalz !
 
IPL is more important 😌 for indian players ? Please tell ?...1.6 million isn't lot of money for team india?
 
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Obviously this one.

Pakistan’s win was overrated. It was dictated by the toss.

So you are saying the fact that India couldn't take a single wicket of Pakistan was due to the toss and not due to their bowling?
 
That 152 led to India toning down on the world cup streak, there was no takra or anything this time around.
 
What was the reason for not taking a single wicket against England if toss was blamed for not taking a single wicket against Pakistan? [MENTION=113824]Nikhil_cric[/MENTION] :inti
 
Neither. T-20 is a tamasha format. In that time frame the 2 losses against SA hurt more, not to mention the 5 th test against England which we lost from a winning position. That hurt 10 times more than both these combined.
 
This Indian team has been medicore for a while. Should never have made it out of the groups if they were balanced.

How can one group have oz,nz, eng and sl.
 
The test series win in Australia 2018 and 2020 outperforms both the T20 tamasha format losses. This really sets it up for the Indian ODI team now to back the right players for 2023 ODI World Cup especially clutch players based on right conditions. I would like to see Shreyas Iyer as one of them for the 2023 World Cup.

I love how you preface today's loss my by mentioning Test match performances that are not even relevant to today's humiliation, though I do understand that it might make you feel better.
 
Sorry for your loss .

Spicy Lentils , good Bollywood movie & a modi speech may help .

Both were humiliating but India after all this time have no fast bowlers of any quality.

😂 Mamoon will be getting it all day. What s humilation for india.
 
This is the cricket equivalent of that 7-1 match(Brazil-Germany). The biggest trashing in the T20 history considering the occasion.
 
A loss in semi finals hurts more.There is no guarantee that a team which qualifies to finals will win but the chance is there.If you lose the dem final then your chance has gone.
 
The coping mechanisms at full flow. Everything is fun and dandy until Ind loses. It is WC, not a tamasha domestic Indian league. The loss matters and it hurts. It still hurts Pakistanis the way we lost our last SF against AU and first game of this WC against Ind - the 2 games which we should win comfortably.
 
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Pak 153/0 was brutal....this was expected but vs pak we always have a chance
 
That 152/0 is legendary.....it ended India's 30 year winning streak in WCs against Pakistan in spectacular fashion. No one saw it coming and whole of India was visibly shaken after that thrashing.
The toss excuse is just a lame attempt at face-saving.

This time around, England was always the better side and many people were already expecting them to smash India.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So, this Sunday, it’s: <br><br>152/0 vs 170/0 <br><br>&#55356;&#56821;&#55356;&#56816; &#55356;&#56812;&#55356;&#56807; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/T20WorldCup?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#T20WorldCup</a></p>— Shehbaz Sharif (@CMShehbaz) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMShehbaz/status/1590667400864595968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So, this Sunday, it’s: <br><br>152/0 vs 170/0 <br><br>&#55356;&#56821;&#55356;&#56816; &#55356;&#56812;&#55356;&#56807; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/T20WorldCup?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#T20WorldCup</a></p>— Shehbaz Sharif (@CMShehbaz) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMShehbaz/status/1590667400864595968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It seems they read my thread here. :inti
 
I love how you preface today's loss my by mentioning Test match performances that are not even relevant to today's humiliation, though I do understand that it might make you feel better.

It is not a very long post so you can care to read the complete post and quote fully too instead of just quoting the 'preface' as you mentioned.
 
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The problem is the players don't take pride like they used to. The Indian team are a bunch of celebrities that care more about bling bling and the IPL money. That's the reason for the losses in big tournaments. Additionally because of IPL you miss out on playing in other parts of the world which does improve your game.
 
Better performance by the opposition team: 170/0 by England
More hurtful for Indian fans: 152/0 by Pakistan
 
The test series win in Australia 2018 and 2020 outperforms both the T20 tamasha format losses. This really sets it up for the Indian ODI team now to back the right players for 2023 ODI World Cup especially clutch players based on right conditions. I would like to see Shreyas Iyer as one of them for the 2023 World Cup.

Coming to the actual reasoning behind today's loss, this was on the cards obviously and I had already predicted earlier that Pakistan and England were hot favourites for this tournament alongwith Australia.

India weren't favourites and the four teams sitting at the middle in the induction ceremony were the ones who were actually favourites as already pointed out by multiple posters over here.

With the team we had and the stubbornness shown behind the backing of opening combination of Rohit and Rahul went against us and as a result, a semi final exit looks good on paper. Losing vs the tournaments favourites is not a poor end of the campaign and it isn't something to be feel disheartened about, personally I won't. We did beat the other favourites though in a high pressure game.

Hopefully, Pandya as T20I captain will take this team forward and help India pick a clutch team with the likes of Gill, Pant, Shreyas Iyer, Siraj, Bishnoi and Pandya himself being central figures.

It is not a very long post so you can care to read the complete post and quote fully too instead of just quoting the 'preface' as you mentioned.

Read your post again and tell me where did you answer the OP? I guess you are an Indian fan so which loss hurt you the most? Is that too hard to answer? Or are you going to post something else just for the sake of posting in this thread? :inti
 
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Definitely this one. How is this even a question?

The loss against Pakistan was more shocking but most still believed we can beat New Zealand in UAE conditions and advance to the knockouts.

But this was a knockout and it was a proper demolition. 170 in 16 overs is no joke.
 
It is not a very long post so you can care to read the complete post and quote fully too instead of just quoting the 'preface' as you mentioned.

I read your entire post and your first paragraph (preface) is best described as compensation psychology.

Why are you even mentioning past Test cricket results? Can you even answer this question?

And you did not even answer the question in the OP. Read your own post in its entirety.
 
I think this one because it seemed unstoppable, this reminded me of the 1990s when Inzi,Ijaz Ahmed would smack our ODI totals in half the innings.

Top hurts:
1.1996 semis
2.2003 final
3.2014 final
4.icc Ct 2017
5.2022 Semi T20
 
Neither because such things hurt only if you are too emotional to see the reality. I mentioned on PP, after India victory against Pakistan that India would be out in semis and that i am backing (putting money) Pakistan at 8/1 to win the cup. I would now say that i would be covering my pakistan bet and backing England to win the final. When the reality is right in front of you on the first day of the tournament then where is the scope of getting hurt. India had a very very ordinary team, partly because of bad selection and party because of incompetency of the established players. Who in his right mind thought that bhuvi and Ashwin and Axar and DK will not get exposed during the tournament? Who didn't see a simple fact - T20 world cup can't be won when your teams average age is 33, and 8 of 11 players in the playing xi were 33+? For Pakistani fans, who would be hurt on Sunday, pls prepare yourself as England is a far superior team.
 
I think this one because it seemed unstoppable, this reminded me of the 1990s when Inzi,Ijaz Ahmed would smack our ODI totals in half the innings.

Top hurts:
1.1996 semis
2.2003 final
3.2014 final
4.icc Ct 2017
5.2022 Semi T20

What about loss against Zim in 1999 WC? :inti
 
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