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Forfeit the match versus India in the T20 World Cup as a protest - hit them where it hurts

Play the match but pull out 30 minutes before it starts due to security concerns.
 
Pakistan wil never stand up for themselves they are busy playing Mr Nice guys.
In my time only seen one cricketer stand up to for the respect of Pakistan cricket and that was Inzamam when they were accused of ball tampering. He got alot of criticism but at the time I agreed was a brave move. After all those umpiring howlers over the years against England which cost Pakistan some games and possibly series he kept patience then got accused without any proof for ball tampering he stood up and protested.

We need to stand up don't ever tour New Zealand again and if ICC don't help in the this situation then agree don't play India in ICC events as ICC make alot of money from these games
 
I agree with this. Forfeit the match against India and refuse to play against India in future as well.
Seriously stand up for your own self respect.
Cricket is just a game... if you either win this battle or loose it.
 
The time is right to destroy cricket as a sport. Other countries treat it as a political instrument. In reality it has very little significance worldwide. If the big 3 want to play it this way,Pakistan has less to lose. Move away from the fixed game and go local. Pakistan will always produce star value and they will find their own way onto the world stage just like Emma Radecanu did for the pride of China.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
The time is right to destroy cricket as a sport. Other countries treat it as a political instrument. In reality it has very little significance worldwide. If the big 3 want to play it this way,Pakistan has less to lose. Move away from the fixed game and go local. Pakistan will always produce star value and they will find their own way onto the world stage just like Emma Radecanu did for the pride of China.
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This needs to happen one day, as you're right cricket is irrelevant as a global sport. We are getting nothing from the pie anyway as it is nor do we get to play top teams regularly, nor do we get anyone at home. Won't be losing much at all. Most of my current entertainment cricket wise is PSL anyway, where we don't have the top foreign talent as it is.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
The time is right to destroy cricket as a sport. Other countries treat it as a political instrument. In reality it has very little significance worldwide. If the big 3 want to play it this way,Pakistan has less to lose. Move away from the fixed game and go local. Pakistan will always produce star value and they will find their own way onto the world stage just like Emma Radecanu did for the pride of China.
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:)))

From the CIA conspiracy to this

PCB is one of the few money making GOVT institute in Pakistan. Thus, they wont be making any such dumb emotional decisions.

If Pakistan pulls out of ICC, you will have 500-800 people unemployed. Rameez Raja just been chairman for 4 days.

Most of these emotions are by those posters who celebrated the Pakistani negotiation with the Taliban. Laughing and enjoying that Pakistan had pulled out a rabbit. Little did they know this was bound to spill over.

The fact that it has started to spill over, the sympathizer of the Taliban govt will come up with weird analogy and over the top solutions that are not even practical.
 
Pakpak said:
This needs to happen one day, as you're right cricket is irrelevant as a global sport. We are getting nothing from the pie anyway as it is nor do we get to play top teams regularly, nor do we get anyone at home. Won't be losing much at all. Most of my current entertainment cricket wise is PSL anyway, where we don't have the top foreign talent as it is.
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If PCB pulls out of ICC, PSL becomes a league that would be sanctioned.

Basically an ICL, and the exiled PCB would have to pay top money to keep retired players playing for them.

PSL has thrived off by international players. WIthout them, its just another faysal bank t20.

Lets be logical atleast.
 
Major said:
If PCB pulls out of ICC, PSL becomes a league that would be sanctioned.

Basically an ICL, and the exiled PCB would have to pay top money to keep retired players playing for them.

PSL has thrived off by international players. WIthout them, its just another faysal bank t20.

Lets be logical atleast.
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PSL hasn't thrived from international players at all.

For most of PSL's existence the only foreign players we have recruited are old has-beens or WI mercenaries. The 3-4 top players we did have never stayed for the entire tournament bar 2-3 games for one reason or the other. If PSL has done well then hiring top stars would probably be at the bottom of the success stories in its list.

We would absolutely lose nothing. We'd still get the odd mercenary, even if we wouldn't we wouldn't lose anything.
 
cricketjoshila said:
You will see that icc will do well without even pakistan. But pcb will not receive the 120mn it receives from ICC and other teams may boycott pakistan.
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As I said it will hurt us alot. No argument there.
With regards to boycott who cares at this point they all don't tour us anyways.

ICC won't go belly up of course, but the viewership and tickets in the pyjama tourneys always skyrocket for the India- Pakistan game. 2019 match was most watched cricket match ever.
 
Pakistan should do it

Let ICC try to bill England v Aus or Aus v India as some kind of el Classico which the whole world will stop and watch
 
Beggars cannot be choosers so no point in making empty threats about pulling out of World T20, boycotting this game and that game etc.

Best we can do is lodge a compliant at ICC and diplomatically lodge a formal complaint to the NZ ambassador
 
Don't think it matters to BCCI much. This is not an India vs Pak home series. It's an ICC event.
 
Don’t Cut Off Your Nose to Spite Your Face.
 
This is so ridiculous. NZ cancel so boycott the game against India. Surely play against NZ.
Noone will understand what is going on. Except the OP and ones who agree with him/her.
 
Poseidon said:
I say this becoz its been a decade and ICC dont acknowledge our efforts for safety and security for touring teams, they just care about money, so hit them where it hurts.
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So you want Pak to play against NZ who ditched us last minute, but not India because it will hurt ICC more #wierdlogic

You do know right that ICC event revenues are extremely important for almost all countries including Pakistan & especially the associate ones like Zim, SL, SA, WI who have toured Pak in the past? Boycotting an ICC tournament will mean nothing to the Big 4 nations, but will further hurt the ailing associate nations who depend on those revenues.
 
Mamma mia
Here we go again.
Amazing that the narrative has turned to India and its all india/BCCI's fault.
This is without even knowing the exact reasons for NZ pulling out, surely them more imaginative out there would have thought up enough reasons for NZ landing, checking into the hotels, their practice sessions, posing with the tropy etc.

Next up-Beached Whales, global warming, The virus, Polar ice cap melting, lack of fizz in ya soda or masala in yah paan....yeah we all know who's to blame, keep going.
:salute
 
I don't see Pakistanis having guts to forfeit against india. They should boycot the whole worldcup .why only india?
 
😂😂😂😂 Some of the posts on this thread are hilarious.

As on the topic, I would suggest withdraw from T20 WC itself, that would hurt ICC even more, isn't it? 😂
 
Please ... Please.. boycott the game. Do it just before toss, that would be perfect.

This is your time, stand up for yourselves.
 
Forfeiting the match will give Indians 2 points easily that too in a tournament where it is hosting the wc .
Then ICC may take few actions based on this, may ban pakistan from the whole tournament. Addition to this there will be diplomatic reaction from UAE as well.. no gain for Pakistan at all.

My advice is to calm down a bit and try to work with ICC and NZC board to get this sorted and request them to visit Pakistan , may be after T20 WC.
And if they agree, play a full fledged series including test and odi.
Best possible scenario I can imagine for Pakistan at this moment.
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
Mamma mia
Here we go again.
Amazing that the narrative has turned to India and its all india/BCCI's fault.
This is without even knowing the exact reasons for NZ pulling out, surely them more imaginative out there would have thought up enough reasons for NZ landing, checking into the hotels, their practice sessions, posing with the tropy etc.

Next up-Beached Whales, global warming, The virus, Polar ice cap melting, lack of fizz in ya soda or masala in yah paan....yeah we all know who's to blame, keep going.
:salute
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I wish you would have a little more sense. Anyways
This thread is talking about Hurting ICC and not india.
Hurting ICC in financial sense. IND vs Pak is money maker for ICC.
Secondaly I wish you could open your eyes look the world around you.
Just a day before India cancelled its tour of NZ in 2021 season. No don't tell that NZC would have never called BCCI and asked them the reason for it.
 
Pak must find a way to hurt those teams who make these excuses. I don't have the answer in how we can avenge this but there has to be a way. Even consider boycotting the entire WC T20.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
The time is right to destroy cricket as a sport. Other countries treat it as a political instrument. In reality it has very little significance worldwide. If the big 3 want to play it this way,Pakistan has less to lose. Move away from the fixed game and go local. Pakistan will always produce star value and they will find their own way onto the world stage just like Emma Radecanu did for the pride of China.
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Excellent idea. I see no flaw in this premise.
 
Pull our for security concerns in UAE? Do you want to offend UAE? You guys are taking this too personally
 
This thread is fun reading. If Pakistan does forfeit, it should be against NZ not India. But that will just show them as weak. The best revenge is by performing on the field and winning the tournament.
 
JaDed said:
Pull our for security concerns in UAE? Do you want to offend UAE? You guys are taking this too personally
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Well, UAE has recognized Israel so Pakistan should do it for Palestinians. Ek teer se do nishaane
 
PakLFC said:
Pak must find a way to hurt those teams who make these excuses. I don't have the answer in how we can avenge this but there has to be a way. Even consider boycotting the entire WC T20.
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Simply unparalleled when it comes to shooting at ones own foot, heck both feet!

ICC has already sold the broadcasting rights.

Boycott, the biggest losers are the few remaining fans who bought tickets for the games in order to support the team..
 
We need to realise we cannot do anything! We do not have any muscle, money or brain. All this talk of teaching them a lesson is cheap! Nobody would care even if Pakistan stopped playing cricket because we are an insignificant cricketing nation and an insignificant country generally.
 
saeedhk said:
We need to realise we cannot do anything! We do not have any muscle, money or brain. All this talk of teaching them a lesson is cheap! Nobody would care even if Pakistan stopped playing cricket because we are an insignificant cricketing nation and an insignificant country generally.
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That's true. And this move will offend UAE where thousands of Pakistanis are working.
 
redmaverik84 said:
This thread is fun reading. If Pakistan does forfeit, it should be against NZ not India. But that will just show them as weak. The best revenge is by performing on the field and winning the tournament.
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The way I've seen Pakistan lately, they think of everything except performing and winning so that they become a force.

Probably they understand it's out of their reach.
 
As an Indian, it'd be hilarious to see the ideas being put here to be actually used but luckily for you guys, Rameez Raja seems to be more intelligent than the average pakistani PP poster and he'll take the right call.

Abandoning matches and tournament is amazingly stupid.
 
Can understand emotions running high, but there is zero logic in this thread premise.
All it will do is get Pakistan booted from tournament and replaced by some Associate country
 
One thing does confuse me though..

Some people argue it's just cricket and the USA or England won't use a sport like cricket as a political tool.

Then you have others who say the UAE will be upset because Pakistan pulled out of a cricket match?
 
Rana said:
Pakistan should do it

Let ICC try to bill England v Aus or Aus v India as some kind of el Classico which the whole world will stop and watch
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I guess the relative talents and skills of the 22 players on the field for these teams would be enough for the rational cricket lover to view their matches, leave alone the billing.
As a cricket lover, i share your anguish at the recent happenings and my sorrow to the genuine pak fans out there and on PP.
But whilst at it, how about a bit of self introspection....starting from telling your PM to have nothing to do with the 'esteemed organisation' that is in charge of your western neighbours, that is preventing women from playing the same sport which he played and excelled at the highest levels?
 
saeedhk said:
We need to realise we cannot do anything! We do not have any muscle, money or brain. All this talk of teaching them a lesson is cheap! Nobody would care even if Pakistan stopped playing cricket because we are an insignificant cricketing nation and an insignificant country generally.
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You can. Use this as a motivator to win the tournament.
Secondly, have nothing to do with the taliban.
 
saeedhk said:
We need to realise we cannot do anything! We do not have any muscle, money or brain. All this talk of teaching them a lesson is cheap! Nobody would care even if Pakistan stopped playing cricket because we are an insignificant cricketing nation and an insignificant country generally.
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If everyone thought like you we'd still be living under colonial rule.
 
Now that everyone here has had a day to process this, I hope this thread can be now laughed off and brought to closure.
 
Local.Dada said:
So as a protest for Nzl cancelling a tour that has no significance from a super league points due to life threats , the solution is for Pakistan cricketers to boycott playing India in the WT20, give India free points, put their qualification in jeopardy and still play vs Nzl who cancelled the tour

Ekkis topon ka salaam for this logic :misbah
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this sums up the thread
 
KingKhanWC said:
I get your point.

But beating India would hurt the Indians more.

The better option is whoever doesnt tour, you dont tour them. When Pak tours NZ the crowd is decent, if they are replaced by Zim or Bang it will hurt NZ cricket.
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Not really man. Pakistan-India contest isn't the same anymore.

There is jingoism on both sides (for all other reasons) but cricket rivalry is long dead. Previously a bilateral loss hurt, now even looking back at CT Final, it seems like any other game. To me WC Streak is just a thing, when it breaks will be a big news, but meh after a week. It will be just another stat...
 
People claiming that Pakistan pulling out of the ICC tournamnet will have no impact as Pakistan is an insignificant player in the international cricketing arena are missing the point.

Pakistan pulling out will not be a death blow but will sure be another nail in the coffin of international cricket. Cricket is dying a slow death except the Sub-Continent and Pakistan's decision would expedite the process.

I know this is a cricket forum but as Pakistanis do we really want to continue involvement in a sport which is practically under the thumb of a Hindu fascist state.
 
unemployedgm said:
It does matter to Star Sports.
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Not really. They pay the money they pay to ICC, with conditions in place. If certain conditions are not met, then ICC loses the money they're supposed to get from Star. For Star it's just a lost opportunity of earning, not losses.

ICC, however, will consider it a loss as they use this money to "develop" cricket.
 
Major said:
:)))

From the CIA conspiracy to this

PCB is one of the few money making GOVT institute in Pakistan. Thus, they wont be making any such dumb emotional decisions.

If Pakistan pulls out of ICC, you will have 500-800 people unemployed. Rameez Raja just been chairman for 4 days.

Most of these emotions are by those posters who celebrated the Pakistani negotiation with the Taliban. Laughing and enjoying that Pakistan had pulled out a rabbit. Little did they know this was bound to spill over.

The fact that it has started to spill over, the sympathizer of the Taliban govt will come up with weird analogy and over the top solutions that are not even practical.
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100 bro.

Exactly this.

As soon as the Taliban took over (+ Pakistan's support for them), our security situation and international reputation was always gonna suffer and that's the problem.

It wouldn't surprise me if the intel that NZ received had nothing to do with a "potential threat to the security of NZ players", but could more to do with the US/UK advising NZ to not go ahead because Pakistan is looking to get cosy with Afghan Taliban.
 
It doesn’t affect BCCI. They have operated for years without playing Pakistan. It’s Pakistan who are always begging to play India LOL. I find it absolutely hilarious how the usual suspects are saying pull out of this tour and pull out of this game. I promise you cricket will move on and keep going on if Pakistan pull our of games and tours. Pulling out of tours and games affects Pakistan more than it affects world cricket.
 
Pakistan is being bled thru cricket for 11 years something needs be done.
Pakistan should pull out of icc wt20
 
Kill Cricket by pulling out against India so they can have the umpteenth series/tournament won by the Big Three.
 
If India refuse to play a FTP series against Pakistan on neutral soil, then why isn't it classed as a forfeiture on their behalf?
 
Now this is out of question as teams can choose who they want to play and who not and their FTP can be scheduled accordingly. And India dont want to play Pak.
 
Pakpak said:
PSL hasn't thrived from international players at all.

For most of PSL's existence the only foreign players we have recruited are old has-beens or WI mercenaries. The 3-4 top players we did have never stayed for the entire tournament bar 2-3 games for one reason or the other. If PSL has done well then hiring top stars would probably be at the bottom of the success stories in its list.

We would absolutely lose nothing. We'd still get the odd mercenary, even if we wouldn't we wouldn't lose anything.
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Pakistani players have significant box office value. I pay for Sky Sports partly to be able to watch the PSL, while to this day I have never watched an IPL game because I refuse to support anit-Pakistan organisations.

This site itself, plus the recognition it receives worldwide is testament to that. I really don't need to add much more to that. Even those who argue against my point are only reinforcing it by being here.
 
I'm sure India would happily take the win if Pakistan were stupid and immature enough to forfeit their game with them. That would be ludicrous, only Pakistan would be the losers.
 
Snatch said:
I'm sure India would happily take the win if Pakistan were stupid and immature enough to forfeit their game with them. That would be ludicrous, only Pakistan would be the losers.
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Pakistan have little to lose these days. Refusing to play India would be seen as a victory for those who have some self worth.
 
Forfeiting the match is not going to help the cricket fans. But if PCT wants to take a stand and forfeits, it is the Indian team's gain. I would not mind it, though I would be a disappointed fan.
 
Hasan123 said:
It doesn’t affect BCCI. They have operated for years without playing Pakistan. It’s Pakistan who are always begging to play India LOL. I find it absolutely hilarious how the usual suspects are saying pull out of this tour and pull out of this game. I promise you cricket will move on and keep going on if Pakistan pull our of games and tours. Pulling out of tours and games affects Pakistan more than it affects world cricket.
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Alright

So let’s pull out still. Why do you care?
 
zn426 said:
they willingly endangered Pakistan players and citizens by refusing to share intelligence about a potential attack on a Pakistani cricket match (it that's even true).
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You have every right to feel outraged about the last minute withdrawal by NzC which in my.opinion was borderline irresponsible but the above comment is laughworthy. It.ks not NZC's responsibility to provide security for Pakistanis in Pakistan.
 
Lol who would have thought that the Pak NZ game will have far more feeling than the Pak India game. Maybe this will make our players play the India game with a far more relaxed frame of mind
 
You guys know what ICC is not responsible for NZ/Pak Bilateral game

BTW, for the person who mentioned Justice for Kashmir - frankly, no one outside of Pakistan give 2 fks about it. Pak is already humiliated after this withdrawal, that will be the worst drama and might get it banned for good

Jeez, Justice for Kashmir - boycotting cricket game, mind blowing attitude
 
street cricketer said:
Fully support this. Kohli is a huge panauti and it's highly probable that the world cup streak can end under his captaincy. At least, it would remain alive if Pakistan forfeits and Kohli will be replaced as a captain after the tournament anyway.
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Kohli hasn't captained India in a t20 WC yet. We lost 2012, 2014 an 2016 under Dhoni. Its unfair to blame him for all the losses.

Coming to the topic. Pakistan need to wait until ICC reviews this dispute. If it goes against them then this forfeit route would be a good way to bring them on their knees.
 
ChennaiFan said:
Forfeiting the match is not going to help the cricket fans. But if PCT wants to take a stand and forfeits, it is the Indian team's gain. I would not mind it, though I would be a disappointed fan.
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Good. Might make Indian fans appreciate the disappointment Pakistan fans feel on an ongoing basis.

My advice to the PCB would be to pull out and diminish the world cup. Pak lives matter.
 
Nobody will care if Pakistan forfeits their match against India after what NZ did. PCB has bigger issues than BCCI to deal with now. Forget about India and focus on stabilizing bilateral ties with SENA.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Nobody will care if Pakistan forfeits their match against India after what NZ did. PCB has bigger issues than BCCI to deal with now. Forget about India and focus on stabilizing bilateral ties with SENA.
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If no one will care, why would they bother replying in this thread. I think you must care quite a lot.

Forfeit and diminish. The only way forward.
 
The T20 WC would definitely be hurt if Pakistan forfeit, no question about it. But PCB's revenue share will also take a hit. So the question is if PCB can take the revenue hit and strained relationship with NZ and ICC.
 
If Pakistan boycotts India game - ICC will sue PCB & levy huge fine on PCB which will hurt Pakistan even more

Pakistan can crate some excuse of security but that will anger UAE govt & with 1 million Pakistani expats in UAE , that's the last thing Pakistan want during this pandemic

Ony way Pakistan can forfeit is via some Covid cases in their camp
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
If no one will care, why would they bother replying in this thread. I think you must care quite a lot.

Forfeit and diminish. The only way forward.
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What forfeit.
I care, i care, i care! god please, nobody comes in between me , my beer and this game.
Im not a third world war person but bhai mere, your really pushing it 🤣
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Govt should take the decision out of their hands same way they claim their govt took the decision out of their hands when they banned Pak players from the IPL for over a decade.
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Pak pulled a similar stunt in 2009 after Mumbai attacks saying their players cannot play in IPL due to security issue and ever since then they have been going on and on about Pak players not being allowed into IPL. Pak pulling out maybe a temporary hit for ICC, but dont expect Pak to be part of any ICC tournaments in the future. Pak needs ICC way more than the other way around.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Pakistani players have significant box office value. I pay for Sky Sports partly to be able to watch the PSL, while to this day I have never watched an IPL game because I refuse to support anit-Pakistan organisations.

This site itself, plus the recognition it receives worldwide is testament to that. I really don't need to add much more to that. Even those who argue against my point are only reinforcing it by being here.
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100 percent. There is no comparison between Faisal T20 and PSL. One is very hyped up, lavishly spent money on, the players get a lot of ££££. And this is despite absence of top foreign stars. With more effort PSL would still do reasonably well.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Pakistani players have significant box office value. I pay for Sky Sports partly to be able to watch the PSL, while to this day I have never watched an IPL game because I refuse to support anit-Pakistan organisations.

This site itself, plus the recognition it receives worldwide is testament to that. I really don't need to add much more to that. Even those who argue against my point are only reinforcing it by being here.
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You don’t watch IPL because you refuse to support anti-Pakistan organizations, but you pay taxes to the British government who use your tax money to bomb Muslims.

You have a very funny moral compass.
 
Mamoon said:
You don’t watch IPL because you refuse to support anti-Pakistan organizations, but you pay taxes to the British government who use your tax money to bomb Muslims.

You have a very funny moral compass.
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It is YOU who has a very funny moral compass.

Don’t bring people’s personal lives into this matter otherwise you’ll be left leaving with your tail between your legs.

Your argument is so stupid it ceases to amaze any longer.
 
Hasan123 said:
No I don’t. You just want an argument when anyone posts something against Pakistan. I have also seen you on this thread encouraging abuse of NZ people because they didn’t want to play a cricket game. You need to take a deep breath.
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Encouraging abuse because they don’t want to play a game of cricket? Is that all you see of this situation? And you claim to be a Pakistan fan?

I read the filth you post about Pakistanis thinking they are more relevant than they actually are. Keep this nonsense up and expect a harsh response, don’t go crying about it this time.
 
Poseidon said:
I say this becoz its been a decade and ICC dont acknowledge our efforts for safety and security for touring teams, they just care about money, so hit them where it hurts.
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Dumb move. Not sure what India has to do with all this?
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
If no one will care, why would they bother replying in this thread. I think you must care quite a lot.

Forfeit and diminish. The only way forward.
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Forfeiting won't make NZ view Pakistan as a safe country to tour. Why lose intentionally? PCB will lose a lot of money and ICC tournaments will be its bread and butter in future since fewer countries will play test with Pakistan.
 
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