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Future Pakistan Test captain after Sarfaraz Ahmed

Future Pakistan Test captain after Sarfaraz Ahmed

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Looking at this joke of a list, I've decided not to participate as there is no serious candidate for captaincy. Captaincy means getting a free pass for several series without ever being dropped. No one in the list has the ability to think big and captain the side, all of them would be looking towards this slot to continue playing their below average game.

To replace Sarfraz find a persistent performer first who is looking to have a near permanent place in the team and is able to execute the decisions of Arthur which is even more tough.

I'd keep Sarfraz for now and change the selection committee. Need a chief selector like Aamir Sohail who has background in finding players with a proper technique. South Africa made a 22 year old Graeme Smith captain and planned the team around him which had stalwarts like Kallis. A good technique player will automatically replace Sarfraz, captaining in 3 formats is becoming a problem for him.
 
Yasir "Messi" Shah. He thinks on his toes plus he doesn't have to bat well to keep his place. He is a smart bowler and the way he hoodwinks the batsman he surely seems a good tactician. Besides he is quite patient too .
 
Shan if show some consistency , will be a good choice. Education and communication skill gives you confidence which is must for a captain.
 
Khwaja78 said:
Looking at this joke of a list, I've decided not to participate as there is no serious candidate for captaincy. Captaincy means getting a free pass for several series without ever being dropped. No one in the list has the ability to think big and captain the side, all of them would be looking towards this slot to continue playing their below average game.

To replace Sarfraz find a persistent performer first who is looking to have a near permanent place in the team and is able to execute the decisions of Arthur which is even more tough.

I'd keep Sarfraz for now and change the selection committee. Need a chief selector like Aamir Sohail who has background in finding players with a proper technique. South Africa made a 22 year old Graeme Smith captain and planned the team around him which had stalwarts like Kallis. A good technique player will automatically replace Sarfraz, captaining in 3 formats is becoming a problem for him.
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Wow, you want Sarfraz to continue and bring back Amir Sohail as selector, certainly Pak cricket doesn't need enemies, we have friends like ----.
 
Saj said:
There used to be a time when Pakistan had 7 or 8 players in the Test team capable of being captain, nowadays the cupboard looks bare.
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You're talking bout 70s, when Majid, Mushtaq, Asif, Bari, Imran, Miandad Wasim Raja , Iqbal Qasim , Mudassar were in the same team.
 
Babar,
Apparently He doesn't look like captaincy material.
But he has the experience at u19 level and he also make into 11 at merit.
But looking at PCB they always choose that player who can speak English little bit.
Which is laughable. PCB might go with Azhar. Shaan Masood is other candidate who is sensible but we have to wait and see until he show some consistancy.
 
Mark my words, Shan Masood will end up being next ODI and Test captain. He is already having a somewhat decent series in SA. This will bring him into the fold for a permanent spot in the Test team at the end of this SA tour. Sarafaraz will get kicked out of the team with Rizwan replacing him. And captaincy will go to Shan.

As for ODIs, Pakistan will crash out of the coming WC badly. Ending near bottom. This will be the exit of Sarfaraz, plus Malik and Hafeez will retire. Inzi might get sacked too after the WC 2019 disaster. This leads way for Shan to open with Fakhar and Shan gets captaincy.

You heard it here first!
 
Shan needs to score a hundred or couple of fifties. If he does than he should be given the reigns.


Hope and pray that Pakistan Win atleast 1 Test and Sarfraz scores aswell. It would be good if he regains his form and wins as a captain in SA because it would rub in Odi's and WC too otherwise he will lose the confidence and respect of team mates which would haunt us more.

If Shan performs than atleast he should be made VC after this tour.
 
Ilustcricket said:
Mark my words, Shan Masood will end up being next ODI and Test captain. He is already having a somewhat decent series in SA. This will bring him into the fold for a permanent spot in the Test team at the end of this SA tour. Sarafaraz will get kicked out of the team with Rizwan replacing him. And captaincy will go to Shan.

As for ODIs, Pakistan will crash out of the coming WC badly. Ending near bottom. This will be the exit of Sarfaraz, plus Malik and Hafeez will retire. Inzi might get sacked too after the WC 2019 disaster. This leads way for Shan to open with Fakhar and Shan gets captaincy.

You heard it here first!
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Been said before and I agree - well balanced individual but not sure if he can command respect of the team.
 
Most of the guys in the poll have not even captained in domestic cricket which is a huge problem.

PCB should be encouraging its players to captain in all formats in domestic cricket.
 
For Babar it is too early. Let him concentrate on his batting.
Can't tolerate Azhar or Asad as captain as it has become quite difficult to tolerate them as players.
Amongst others no one has permanent spot in the team. Amongst all others I would say Fakhar is the best choice for test cricket at the moment.
Groom one of Babar and Shadab to take over after 2 to 3 years.
 
Lack of options. It's clear Sarfaraz has to go but who can replace him?
 
Ilustcricket said:
Mark my words, Shan Masood will end up being next ODI and Test captain. He is already having a somewhat decent series in SA. This will bring him into the fold for a permanent spot in the Test team at the end of this SA tour. Sarafaraz will get kicked out of the team with Rizwan replacing him. And captaincy will go to Shan.

As for ODIs, Pakistan will crash out of the coming WC badly. Ending near bottom. This will be the exit of Sarfaraz, plus Malik and Hafeez will retire. Inzi might get sacked too after the WC 2019 disaster. This leads way for Shan to open with Fakhar and Shan gets captaincy.

You heard it here first!
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Right
 
Rizwan!!
He should replace Sarfaraz as WK batsman right now!! If he do well as WK Batsman then he will be a good choice for captainc!!!
 
My vote goes to Shan. I think he has the ability to take up responsibility and improve. He might not be our best batsmen but if he can conttibute here and there it would be a huge improvement over what we currently have which I consider tullaybaaz cricket.
 
MenInG said:
Been said before and I agree - well balanced individual but not sure if he can command respect of the team.
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I think he will get team support and respect, as I know he is the fittest and the most hardworking player in the team. A well balanced, decent and educated player, a big plus. He has been around , in the team off and on and in domestic cricket for many years now. Sadly there is no super star in the team who could challenge him.
Its funny we all are talking about Shaan after just one good inning in the 2nd inning, but the matter and way he played was most important. Not the most talented player like Babar but looks like he has improved a lot through sheer hardwork. Along with Babar, he was the only one looked comfortable against hostile bowling on a hostile wicket.
 
I see Imam being a captain in the far future of Pakistan cricket. Calm headed, understands the game/situation. Definitely not ready to take up the mantle yet.
 
light said:
I see Imam being a captain in the far future of Pakistan cricket. Calm headed, understands the game/situation. Definitely not ready to take up the mantle yet.
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Imam should definitely not be captain, he is always overacting.
Shan Masood is the best person for the job.
Shan has the third best overall list a average with over 70 matches played. He should get a chance for the Pakistan odi series against sa
 
Tbh Babar only looked comfortable against Steyn.
Against Rabada he was struggling. Shan might not be the best player but he wasn’t really struggling against Rabada or Olivier or Steyn.
But Shan really has to prove himself in the upcoming test and the one after that.
 
a_tahir said:
Tbh Babar only looked comfortable against Steyn.
Against Rabada he was struggling. Shan might not be the best player but he wasn’t really struggling against Rabada or Olivier or Steyn.
But Shan really has to prove himself in the upcoming test and the one after that.
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:)) The same Shan that got bowled by Olivier?
 
Make Babar captain in LOIs after WC. At this point there is no one to replace Sarfraz in tests except for Azhar. Fakhar hasn't cemented his place yet. Ditto with Shadab.
 
LegendAli said:
:)) The same Shan that got bowled by Olivier?
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Mate if u watched the match u would know that it was a fluke wicket. it wasn’t like the way Babar got out by Rabada
Also I am saying relative to other players he looked comfortable, even he was getting beaten by some balls.
 
Shan Masood, the natural choice to lead the Test side after Sarfaraz Ahmed?

This is a bold thread and I am ready to face hostile criticism for this, but to me this lad must be backed by the management to lead the side. He has proven that he is mentally strong. He was dropped, told to improve and score runs in the domestic scene, he did exactly that and came back a much, much better player. His fitness is head and shoulders above the rest of the side (fact). He is decent and well educated, certainly representable.

The question I pose to you all is this, who else would you consider to lead the side? Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq are on their way out, have been on a decline since Misbah and Younis have left. Harris is a crock. Fakhar isnt even suitable for Test cricket at the moment. The next candidate is Babar Azam, do you guys consider him to be the leader of the side or would you prefer that he simply focuses on his batting?

The bowlers, well who would you see as a long term choice? Shaheen is so inexperienced (and lacking basic intelligence) that he reviews dismissals that come out of the middle of the bat. Amir is tainted and Yasir cannot play in Tests away from home, he is impotent as a threat on tracks that do not offer anything. Abbas is decent, should be playing more Test matches for a few years but then again, do you think he will remain fit enough to lead the side and does he have any leadership qualities and charisma? I think not.

For me, I cannot see any other long term investment.
 
He needs to have a few good series first before even being considered.
 
He is a good and mature head however he needs to score some runs first. Atleast he ticks few boxes while sarfaraz at the moment is ticking none.
 
He needs to establish himself as a regular starter in playing 11 on merit 1st before anything else.
 
Rana said:
My brother, who is being considered anyways?
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That's a problem, no obvious candidates but it's too early for Masood. This is Shan Masood's 4th innings since his recall, where he is looking like a completely different player but that would be way too soon, a few failures and everyone will be calling for his back. Anyway, I don't think captaincy is the reason we are struggling in Tests, it's just our pathetic sides.
 
hadi123 said:
That's a problem, no obvious candidates but it's too early for Masood. This is Shan Masood's 4th innings since his recall, where he is looking like a completely different player but that would be way too soon, a few failures and everyone will be calling for his back. Anyway, I don't think captaincy is the reason we are struggling in Tests, it's just our pathetic sides.
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Agreed, but change is better than nothing. Sarfaraz will not be captain by the end of this series.
 
Speaks good English and that is all I am looking for in a captain at this point.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

I think he looks like a different player while batting now.

Unbelievable
 
Shan Masood as a junior is giving good advice to Asad Shafiq from non strikers end.


Asad needs to calm down abit and give some respect to SA pacers.


Stump mike make Cricket more interesting.
 
I like his hard work and determination for his comeback. But with Sarfraz anyone can be a big upgrade over him.
 
He has all the work ethics, personality, resilience, intelligence and leadership qualities I want to see.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] it's not just the English. His game awareness and making cricketing sense when he talks is commendable because it's rare wrt Pakistani Cricketers (unfortunately)


I have had the previlage to watch his last 3,4 media talks and I am impressed.



4 innings on tough SA surfaces against 4 quality quicks and these have been the returns :


19, 65, 44 & 61



189 runs in 2 Tests @47 is quite good going.



He has shown great temperament and technique and after ages I saw a Pakistani batsman hooking and pulling well against tall, quality 140 + kph deliveries.


He & Babar have more time it seems compared to others when they bat. Few batsmen have that ability when it comes to Pakistani batsmen. Saeed, Inzamam, Yousuf, U Akmal, Babar Azam, Haris & now Shan. In domestic Saud & U Amin. That's it.


It's an advantage when you have to face Fast or Express pacers.
 
Ok, he has not been in team for long and needs more good series under his belt, that would be an argument under normal circumstances, when we have a good current captain who his performing well and have time to groom a new one, unfortunately we need to replace Sarfraz NOW and there is no better choice available than Shaan .
 
Nope. Don't need to overburden him and then cry when he doesn't perform because of added responsibility (plus we will lose an inform player). Let the guy establish himself in the test team first.

Anyways I have seen both him and Fakhar captaining in domestic and Fakhar will be my first choice if he can establish himself. Fakhar thrives under pressure and captaincy wont overburden him but his technical game against pace is weak so first he needs to rectify that.
 
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SarfiBabarHaris said:
Nope. Don't need to overburden him and then cry when he doesn't perform because of added responsibility (plus we will lose an inform player). Let the guy establish himself in the test team first.

Anyways I have seen both him and Fakhar captaining in domestic and Fakhar will be my first choice if he can establish himself. Fakhar thrives under pressure and captaincy wont overburden him but his technical game against pace is weak so first he needs to rectify that.
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Exactly. Fakhar is the best choice. But needs to show his worth first.

Shan might fail in the next series which would put a lot of pressure on him and the PCB.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Nope. Don't need to overburden him and then cry when he doesn't perform because of added responsibility (plus we will lose an inform player). Let the guy establish himself in the test team first.

Anyways I have seen both him and Fakhar captaining in domestic and Fakhar will be my first choice if he can establish himself. Fakhar thrives under pressure and captaincy wont overburden him but his technical game against pace is weak so first he needs to rectify that.
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Fakhar thrives under pressure? Bowl him 2 balls at his body, he will gift you his wicket.
 
Salman4. said:
Fakhar thrives under pressure? Bowl him 2 balls at his body, he will gift you his wicket.
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Thats a technical issue.

Who played a main role in winning you CT final and Aus/Zim T20 series final and also the second and deciding test vs Aus recently? If thats not thriving under pressure than i dont know what is. Also did you see his captaincy for Balochistan where he led his young and weakest team to victory?
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Nope. Don't need to overburden him and then cry when he doesn't perform because of added responsibility (plus we will lose an inform player). Let the guy establish himself in the test team first.

Anyways I have seen both him and Fakhar captaining in domestic and Fakhar will be my first choice if he can establish himself. Fakhar thrives under pressure and captaincy wont overburden him but his technical game against pace is weak so first he needs to rectify that.
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Oh God.

Fakhar will be dropped in the next series!
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Nope. Don't need to overburden him and then cry when he doesn't perform because of added responsibility (plus we will lose an inform player). Let the guy establish himself in the test team first.

Anyways I have seen both him and Fakhar captaining in domestic and Fakhar will be my first choice if he can establish himself. Fakhar thrives under pressure and captaincy wont overburden him but his technical game against pace is weak so first he needs to rectify that.
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Fakhar would be an automatic choice if he was performing but he isn't.

Can't see us doing much more than doing a Misbah again and bringing in an established captain. I don't think we can burden Masood with captain, people forget he still averages 27, he needs time to actually cement his place.
 
ads101 said:
Fakhar would be an automatic choice if he was performing but he isn't.

Can't see us doing much more than doing a Misbah again and bringing in an established captain. I don't think we can burden Masood with captain, people forget he still averages 27, he needs time to actually cement his place.
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Who though?? There is no one anywhere in the domestic scene that is a natural captain choice. I was thinking Imad but the guy has not even played a single Test in his life
 
Salman4. said:
Fakhar thrives under pressure? Bowl him 2 balls at his body, he will gift you his wicket.
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You have been proven right.


In CT 2017 aswell he edged quite a few and was lucky most of the times. He will struggle more in Odi's aswell if he doesn't improve this area of his game.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Thats a technical issue.

Who played a main role in winning you CT final and Aus/Zim T20 series final and also the second and deciding test vs Aus recently? If thats not thriving under pressure than i dont know what is. Also did you see his captaincy for Balochistan where he led his young and weakest team to victory?
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Go back to his innings against 140 + pacers in CT. He top edged and looked uncomfortable against quick short pitched bowling. He was quite lucky. Now he will face more music in Odi's too.


I have seen zero improvement in this area of his game in last 2 years.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Go back to his innings against 140 + pacers in CT. He top edged and looked uncomfortable against quick short pitched bowling. He was quite lucky. Now he will face more music in Odi's too.


I have seen zero improvement in this area of his game in last 2 years.
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I have at least mentioned 2 times in this thread that his technical game against pace is weak.
 
Shan or Abbas: Who you would select as Pakistan's next test captain?

Sarfraz should be removed from test captaincy after this tour. For the next test captain, Shan looks the best option among batsmen and Abbas among bowlers. Who would you select? Its very tempting to select a bowler as Pakistan's next test captain.
 
Rana said:
Who though?? There is no one anywhere in the domestic scene that is a natural captain choice. I was thinking Imad but the guy has not even played a single Test in his life
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Personally I'd go with Fawad. Only option I see, averages good in domestic, has shown some ability at international level and captained extensively. It's a very similar situation as we had with Misbah except unfortunately Fawad's technique is worse and thus more of a risk.

Another option is perhaps Umar Amin who has been captaining and doing well in domestic for years now. But he has the opposite issue to Fawad, not as impressive domestic average, poor international performances despite better technique.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Go back to his innings against 140 + pacers in CT. He top edged and looked uncomfortable against quick short pitched bowling. He was quite lucky. Now he will face more music in Odi's too.


I have seen zero improvement in this area of his game in last 2 years.
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You're being too harsh.

He was fine against NZ's pacers in both NZ and the UAE. Played Stanlake with ease too in the T20 tri series.
 
I guess Abbas is one of the first names on the team sheet but not sure if he is captaincy material. Doesn't seem like the most educated guy, from a poor background, can't speak English. Masood would be a good choice but it's too early as he's just got back into the team and he was awful before this series so he can't be made the next captain immediately.
 
Shan Masood in tests
Imad Wasim in LOI

In cricket you need educated captains or atleast captain's that can use their brain and think outside the box. Sarfraz is just dumb and stupid and he can't hold a bat anymore. Sarfraz must go now. Honestly even though Shan masood isn't that good a player atleast he knows what he's doing. He understands the game well and will take full responsibility for this young and inexperienced team.
Kick out sarfraz, azhar and Asad for starters though.
 
how about

TEST. (1) Baber Azam (2) Amir (3) Shan Masood
ODI. (1) Shoaib Malik (2) Shadab khan
T20. (1) Shadab Khan. (2) Shoaib Malik (3) Imad Waseem
 
Doesn’t really matter, if you don’t have the patience to see repeated failures.
 
Fawad Alam should be recalled and made captain of Test team (like Misbah in 2010)

After the end of the series, Sarfraz will likely resign and there will be major changes for our test team.

The first thing we need to do is regain home dominance. Can't be losing series in UAE to anyone. So I think Fawad is pretty consistent, has captaincy experience and I think he could really grind out runs on the UAE pitches. Babar should be his vice captain so he can be groomed for the role.

Also several batsmen have to be dumped - Sarfraz, Azhar, Shafiq, Imam.

We get some new batsmen in that can do well - I think Saad Ali, Said Shakeel, Usman Saluhuddin, Muhammad Rizwan (WK) can all do well in the middle order (they don't all have to play at the same time of course but they should be options and play often).

Babar, Haris are good so they can stay. Fakhar hasn't done well but I'm willing to give him some more time.

Bowling is fine, but please bring in Zafar Gohar and groom him for our future No.8 spinner.

These are some the.major changes that should be made IMO. What do you guys think? It might not go well at first but I think there's potential.
 
Sorry, no.

Fawad Alam is 33.5 years old - an age at which 95% of Test batsmen have retired.

He has only scored 6 centuries in the last 4 years.

His time should have been 2010-11, when the insane decision to recall the geriatric Younis and Misbah was made.

That mistake meant that all four middle-order slots were taken - two by the geriatrics and two by the emerging Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq.

So there was no place for Fawad Alam or Umar Akmal - who was just 21 - or for Babar Azam until two years after he was ready.

Younis and Misbah as geriatrics played a total of 8 and 7 Tests respectively in Australia, New Zealand and South Africa.

Younis failed in 13 innings out of 16.
Misbah failed in 13 innings out of 14.

But worse than that, they obstructed the development of the next generation, including Fawad Alam.

Fawad’s career was ruined by the catastrophic decision to invest in seniority, not youth.

That wrong will not be righted by making him the beneficiary of the same mistake now.
 
Junaids said:
Sorry, no.

Fawad Alam is 33.5 years old - an age at which 95% of Test batsmen have retired.

He has only scored 6 centuries in the last 4 years.

His time should have been 2010-11, when the insane decision to recall the geriatric Younis and Misbah was made.

That mistake meant that all four middle-order slots were taken - two by the geriatrics and two by the emerging Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq.

So there was no place for Fawad Alam or Umar Akmal - who was just 21 - or for Babar Azam until two years after he was ready.

Younis and Misbah as geriatrics played a total of 8 and 7 Tests respectively in Australia, New Zealand and South Africa.

Younis failed in 13 innings out of 16.
Misbah failed in 13 innings out of 14.

But worse than that, they obstructed the development of the next generation, including Fawad Alam.

Fawad’s career was ruined by the catastrophic decision to invest in seniority, not youth.

That wrong will not be righted by making him the beneficiary of the same mistake now.
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I actually agree with this.

Make Shan captain for a bit, until Babar is ready. If the former succeeds, persist with him.
 
You want a captain who commands respect and for whom the players are ready to fight and give their all. A leader of men who leads by example.

Do you think Fawad can be that guy?
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Shan Masood as a junior is giving good advice to Asad Shafiq from non strikers end.


Asad needs to calm down abit and give some respect to SA pacers.


Stump mike make Cricket more interesting.
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[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION], leadership qualities? Here is proof for your petition.
 
Speaks good English and is presentable. That is all I am looking for in a captain at this point.
 
Mamoon said:
Speaks good English and is presentable. That is all I am looking for in a captain at this point.
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There are so many international footballers who speak their own language and its not a problem for anyone.

Why does English have to be a bare minimum criteria to appoint a captain?

Even in Olympics the speeches are given in the local dialect of the country and people feel no shame in this.

I can agree the captain knowing English is a bonus.

But appointing a captain on the basis of his English speaking skills is pure nonsense.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
There are so many international footballers who speak their own language and its not a problem for anyone.

Why does English have to be a bare minimum criteria to appoint a captain?

Even in Olympics the speeches are given in the local dialect of the country and people feel no shame in this.

I can agree the captain knowing English is a bonus.

But appointing a captain on the basis of his English speaking skills is pure nonsense.
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Cricket is different to football. Unlike football, all the major nations are English speaking or have English as one of their official languages.

As a result, no matter which country you tour, you will inevitably have to communicate in English.

If cricket was played in countries like France, Spain, South America, South-East Asia etc., it would have been different. However, that is not the case.

As captain of the team, you need to be a good communicator - it is part of your job description. Our captains struggle a lot on this front and often get misquoted and misinterpreted.

It is PCB’s duty to invest in media training and improving the communication skills of its players. It is not something that we should scoff at.

Many, many jobs in the world require you to have good communication skills, and cricket is no different. As ambassadors of the country in a sport where one language is dominant, it is important for our captains to be well-versed in that language.

It has other positive implications too. You can communicate with the captains of other teams and you can make a bigger impact on the opposition camp with your press conferences.

On the field, you can sledge the opposition or respond to sledging.

I agree that communication skills should not be the only criteria, but Pakistan cricket has reached a point where it hardly matters who the captain is.

We are an emphatically mediocre team that is short of 4-5 world class players, and captaincy alone cannot cover that.

If we are going to lose anyway, better lose with a captain with a decent profile.

There is nothing worse than being a pathetic team under the tutelage of someone with an embarrassing profile like Sarfraz’s.
 
Haha, plays a couple of good innings (not even big scores, mind you) but everybody hypes him up to be President.

Come on. Take an informed call after 10 Tests / 25 ODIs minimum.
 
Would be a horrible decision. Why the rush to appoint a new captain when we are not playing any tests before the WC?

I see malicious intent behind this move, the fact that a guy scores some runs in a series and gets to be in the list for a future captain smells like trouble to me. I am sure Shan's dad would be see this as an opportunity, not alleging anything.
 
We can not be serious about Shan Masood as captainig after this series.
I mean the guy has grace but he is still trying to cement his feet in the side and a couple of good innings,although deserve all the praise in the world,do not warrant leadership and captaincy.We need to give him some more time and he can be appointed in the future.

But then again Sarfaraz does not deserve to be the captain and i have absolutely no one in my mind who can take his place.
 
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