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aliasad1998 said:
I don’t care about IMDb ratings at all. That wasn’t my point. I don’t need any reviews to understand how atrocious this episode and season were. I just love watching this train wreck of a season get bashed on all platforms
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You are so negative and annoying.

After every episode you come in and talk trash. We know you don't like it, but keep your negative energy to yourself.

I can understand people who come in and explain why they dislike it or how it could have been better. You just write trash comments without any constructive criticism and it's the same **** after every single episode. What is it you want to achieve?
 
There was some much continuity I fail to see why people were disappointed...
Absolutely everything tied up.
Even Dani, you can see she had that craziness in her from the very first episode of GOT and it was extremely plausible that she could explode like she did.

People are upset with Jon’s ending but it was perfect!! What did they want?
For him to sit on the throne with Drogon as his pet?

I don’t know.. may be I missed something in seasons 1 to 7??
 
Well what a terrible end.Someone on Twitter posted some epic dialogues of GoT of the earlier seasons and I don't know what to say.It used to be so good but they just destroyed it.Season 8 deserves the ratings that it's getting on IMDb.
Heck even I would have written a better story for season 8 than these guys.
Only good thing about season 8 was Ramin Djawadi's BGM.
 
from_da_lost_dim3nsion said:
For those saying that bran knew that dany will slay kings landing and still let it happen -bran cant only see thw past not future
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This is something that has been inconsisent. It seems like sometimes Bran implies he is able to see the future. He said "Why do you think I came all this way?" when Tyrion nominated him. How did he see this coming if he cant see the future?
 
At first I was angry about Bran the usless raven becoming a the king but then the last scene with Jon, the rightful heir of the iron throne, marching along the free folks, who he rescued from the death was the most poetic and beautiful scene of the last 3 seasons.
 
Taaya said:
This is something that has been inconsisent. It seems like sometimes Bran implies he is able to see the future. He said "Why do you think I came all this way?" when Tyrion nominated him. How did he see this coming if he cant see the future?
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I am pretty sure it's a fact that he can see the future.
 
Sirris said:
I am pretty sure it's a fact that he can see the future.
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Incorrect. There have been many instances where he doesn't know what happens. For example, he stated he didn't know the effect of dragonfire on White Walkers, stating that its never been done before.
 
I like the Drogon burning the throne the most.

He realized it was not Jon who killed her, but the greed for power. He also fulfilled her destiny of breaking the wheel. Very beautiful indeed.
 
Taaya said:
Incorrect. There have been many instances where he doesn't know what happens. For example, he stated he didn't know the effect of dragonfire on White Walkers, stating that its never been done before.
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Partially perhaps?

I was always under the impression the three eyed raven could see some part of the future. Like he knew how the night king would die or like intially early in in this season when he said he was waiting for a friend and knew Jamie would come to winterfell too.

Whatever it is the show doesn't do a good job at explaining what exactly is so great about the the three eyed raven character.
 
I think Arya had the worst ending of all. Yeah the scene with the ship was nostalgic but what the hell she becomes an explorer that's like happens in every other story.

I'd have liked it if she went to braavos to establish her own assassin academy or to meet up with her old teacher. O liked that Hgar dude.
 
Sirris said:
At first I was angry about Bran the usless raven becoming a the king but then the last scene with Jon, the rightful heir of the iron throne, marching along the free folks, who he rescued from the death was the most poetic and beautiful scene of the last 3 seasons.
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Bran being the king the worst thing to happen

But after rewatching the last scene of GOT, I think Jon Snow had a statisfying end. He doesn't need to be a king
 
That dragon going mad and burning each and everyone would have been far more logical and satisfying ending than what was aired.
 
shah_1 said:
Bran being the king the worst thing to happen

But after rewatching the last scene of GOT, I think Jon Snow had a statisfying end. He doesn't need to be a king
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Yeah initially I wanted him to be the King too. I even hated the fact how with Varys his true identity has practically died too and no one knows it. I was fuming over the fact that Tyrion didn't tell the lords about Jon's right to the throne. I lost all my cool when I found out he was going the nights watch again. The wall is broken! There is no threat anymore from the north! What's to watch out for?

I wanted to see Jon get angry or start having second thoughts about not wanting to be the king. Even Sansa became a power hungry women.

Till the very last moment I was hoping for some kind of a revolt. Somebody saying something.

I still wasnt convinced when Jon reached Castleblack and was petting his dire wolf.

At around 1h12min mark when the last scene rolled around, the gate behind Jon and the free folks got closed and the music started playing I suddenly saw the beauty and poetry in it.

If he had become the king people of the kingdom would have been calling him the Queen slayer. Singing songs about a treacherous nephew who stabbed his aunt's heart just to gain power.

No! Jon's heart is pure. Purer then all those who wanted him to be sit on the throne.
 
Chrish said:
That dragon going mad and burning each and everyone would have been far more logical and satisfying ending than what was aired.
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No it shows dragon wasn't a beast or a killer.

The one sitting over it and controlling it is responsible for all the innocent deaths.
 
Sirris said:
Partially perhaps?

I was always under the impression the three eyed raven could see some part of the future. Like he knew how the night king would die or like intially early in in this season when he said he was waiting for a friend and knew Jamie would come to winterfell too.

Whatever it is the show doesn't do a good job at explaining what exactly is so great about the the three eyed raven character.
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Not sure about the NK part but teh jamie part he could've figured out while following jamie's movements or his conversations .
 
Arya’s unresolved ending was deliberate and consistent. The writers have spent much of her character arc teeing her up for a potential sequel series - this remains well within the realms of the possible. (Drogon’s story being left open-ended could also tie in with this idea.)

In my opinion, as well as always knowing the past and present, over the course of the series Bran gradually developed an ability to see into the future. There are a number of hints during the final season towards this: most prominently his waiting for Jaime to arrive at Winterfell, his tactical outwitting of the Night King (which the Night King only realised when it was already too late), and the particularly overt “why do you think I came all this way” comment before being crowned.

I also feel that Bran was the first Three-Eyed Raven to have this talent of seeing into the future. It’s almost as if he was destined to be the greatest, and possibly the last, Three-Eyed Raven.
 
Drogon burning the throne was a three-pronged message: it gave physical closure on the throne itself, it showed that an animal can read the nihilistic politics of humanity more intelligently than humans can themselves, and as Dany’s bereaved child it was a beautiful piece of character development for him personally.
 
James said:
Drogon burning the throne was a three-pronged message: it gave physical closure on the throne itself, it showed that an animal can read the nihilistic politics of humanity more intelligently than humans can themselves, and as Dany’s bereaved child it was a beautiful piece of character development for him personally.
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Aye.

Dragons are as smart as people. Drogon says “John, that was naughty but I forgive you as you cannot break the wheel. Mum tried, but she became the wheel. Right, leave this to me.....”
 
Robert said:
Aye.

Dragons are as smart as people. Drogon says “John, that was naughty but I forgive you as you cannot break the wheel. Mum tried, but she became the wheel. Right, leave this to me.....”
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If the dragon had a sense of what's roght and wrong why did it not stop from burning all the innocents in Kingslanding.

Actually there needs to be a better explanation as to whx Drogen did not burn jon alive. Perhaps because it could smell the thargayrean blood in him. And they for some reason don't burn their own.
 
Sirris said:
If the dragon had a sense of what's roght and wrong why did it not stop from burning all the innocents in Kingslanding.

Actually there needs to be a better explanation as to whx Drogen did not burn jon alive. Perhaps because it could smell the thargayrean blood in him. And they for some reason don't burn their own.
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You figured it out
 
shah_1 said:
Bran being the king the worst thing to happen

But after rewatching the last scene of GOT, I think Jon Snow had a statisfying end. He doesn't need to be a king
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The satisfying thing was the music in the end. I believe it was not a well crafted scene. At the very end it seemed as he was going to smile but the actor did not give any tangible expressions, perhaps deliberately. No doubt Kit is not a great actor either.

Also, does the wall still exist?
 
What the hell how can Bran be king all of a sudden? Didnt he say he isnt a human anymore and that there is no Bran? Doesn't make any sense.

And how could the honorable Jon Snow kill his queen behind her back (without any fight or warning). Dude he is brought up by NED Stark!!
 
Stewie said:
You figured it out
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That's just what Inheard from the fan's theories and hasn't been made official yet. Perhpas the books, if ever released might shed more light on it.
 
Is it over yet? I’ve been putting off watching it, and by it I mean the show, not the season, until I could binge watch all seasons in their entirety. I’ll get the HBO subscription and start once Ramzan is over. I hear there are certain scenes one shouldn’t watch during the holy month, which means Eid can be extra special this year.
 
Robert said:
So.... Starks rule.

I think I liked it. Fairly satisfying.
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I predicted this last week in response to someone saying that the author's main criteria was to keep surprising everyone. There was nothing surprising about it.

I didn't mind it, although I was always hoping for Danaerys and her Dragon to reestablish the Targaeryen claim, but everyone has their favourites and you can't please them all. I thought the final episode wasn't much more than a wind down, but there were a couple of poignant moments. John going off into the north with the wildlings, presumably to become the king beyond the wall. And my favourite when Brienne opened the book to write Jamie Lannister's pages which Joffrey mocked for being empty in the earlier seasons.
 
Terrible end to a riveting show. Too many loopholes-

1. What had Sansa done to deserve being the queen of North? She effectively got half her family murdered because of her immaturity & was hopeless as a fighter too. Would have been happier to see Arya get the throne.

2. What was the whole point of Jon being revealed to be the true heir to the throne? Dany & Cersei did far evil deeds as Queens but were still considered to be suitable for the throne, while Jon inspite of being the heir to the throne was effectively given a life sentence for bumping off Dany? How is that justified?

3. Bran declined to be the King of North as he was the three-eyed raven but accepted the Crown in the end (“that is why i am here”). Since he had the sight - he must have witnessed Dany going rogue & Jon murdering her. Was he the true evil all along who was angling for the throne by letting people bump off each other?

The feeble moralistic & socialistic end note towards a democracy of sorts wasn’t warranted. So disappointing.
 
thelandofthebravepeople said:
You are so negative and annoying.

After every episode you come in and talk trash. We know you don't like it, but keep your negative energy to yourself.

I can understand people who come in and explain why they dislike it or how it could have been better. You just write trash comments without any constructive criticism and it's the same **** after every single episode. What is it you want to achieve?
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I have a right to complain. I enjoy complaining about it. It’s the only thing about the show that mattered to me at the end. If you don’t like it then you can ignore it and be as uncritical as you want
 
Nostalgic said:
Is it over yet? I’ve been putting off watching it, and by it I mean the show, not the season, until I could binge watch all seasons in their entirety. I’ll get the HBO subscription and start once Ramzan is over. I hear there are certain scenes one shouldn’t watch during the holy month, which means Eid can be extra special this year.
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I’m making my mom binge watch it. She’s loving it apart from the violence and objectification of women. However I’ve told her to stop at season 6. For her own good
 
shaykh said:
Talk about underwhelming...that episode was trash...that might well be the worst ending to a show ever...and this isn't even hyperbole...

The 'twist' was so anticlimactic and predictable...and the rest of the episode was just cringeworthy...

Shame that what has been an amazing show at least for six seasons had to end like this...
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Been watching the whole thing again while it's on Sky box office, and have to say, the first 6 seasons were different class. The final two episodes of season 6 with the Battle of the B******s, and The Winds of Winter were the culmination of some of the best fantasy drama you are ever likely to see. When in the final scenes John Snow is being hailed King in the North, Cersei is taking the Iron Throne in King's Landing, and Danaerys is sailing a fleet of ships to Westeros to claim her crown with three dragons flying above....it didn't get any better than that.
 
This is for Stewie and others...

Stewie your points on predestination are interesting...but imho you can pass moral judgment on the raven...which i'll get to...

There seems to be a debate as to whether Bran can see the future...

I mean his 'why do you think I came all this way' comment implies he does no?...

I mean he revealed to Jon that he was King so this idea of him doing nothing isn't true...he didn't simply act as an impartial observer but he had something to do with the outcome...

So I disagree with those saying Jon's heritage had no role in the story...because it was an important part of things leading to Dany going mad...

If Bran's raven had been actually someone who's character had been developed then maybe this would have worked...I just don't think anyone was invested in Bran...had they developed Bran as the supervillain puppeteer then it would have worked...

What would have also been imperative is him staying quiet about his knowledge of the future...cos frankly why would anyone ask someone to be King who saw some much carnage and did nothing in order to get power...its ludicrous that everyone unanimously decided that Bran should be King...

The comments about Drogon having some kind of symbolic meltdown...yeah the guy who just followed orders realised the throne was to blame not the guy who killed his mum...maybe he's gone to get Dani resurrected too since he's so smart...I prefer the Jon is a Targereyan angle better...problem with that aspect of the scene is you knew Jon would kill Dany and you knew Jon would survive...
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Been watching the whole thing again while it's on Sky box office, and have to say, the first 6 seasons were different class. The final two episodes of season 6 with the Battle of the B******s, and The Winds of Winter were the culmination of some of the best fantasy drama you are ever likely to see. When in the final scenes John Snow is being hailed King in the North, Cersei is taking the Iron Throne in King's Landing, and Danaerys is sailing a fleet of ships to Westeros to claim her crown with three dragons flying above....it didn't get any better than that.
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Yeh so many satisfying *** moments in previous seasons...I think for me Cersei getting her revenge and the Red Wedding will always be some of the favourite TV moments...

So i'm not gonna hate on the show overall...it's produced probably the best TV ever I agree...
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Been watching the whole thing again while it's on Sky box office, and have to say, the first 6 seasons were different class. The final two episodes of season 6 with the Battle of the B******s, and The Winds of Winter were the culmination of some of the best fantasy drama you are ever likely to see. When in the final scenes John Snow is being hailed King in the North, Cersei is taking the Iron Throne in King's Landing, and Danaerys is sailing a fleet of ships to Westeros to claim her crown with three dragons flying above....it didn't get any better than that.
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That’s where the show ends for me. As good as the first 1-4, and even 1-6 seasons are, the show simply cannot go down as a classic with 2 awful final seasons
 
Right, gonna post twice. this post will be for the positive sides of this episode and the 2nd, i suspect much longer one, will be for the overall trainwreck. also, my caps lock just busted, and i am not wrestling with it at 12am so bear with the awful grammar.

i thought the first half of the episode was very good. some of the cinematography was amazing, the dany murder scene was fantastic, she was just unhinged enough, yet not stark raving mad, for me to believe for a second that she might either kill jon off or that he'd fall for her again and rule together and whatnot.

the dragon burning the throne was fantastic. in fact that whole sequence was genuinely very well done, very emotional and it actually managed to carry some weight for me which, given how much my investment in the show has been damaged, is worth crediting.

in short, first half of the episode i genuinely enjoyed, i decided to simply forget as much of the prior episodes as possible, meet the writers halfway and give them a chance to pull me back in for the finish line, which they did.

then the bran as king scene happened.
 
The bottom line is: the show ended how GRRM wants it to end. There may be a few changes from the books, of course the plot devices and character development got weaker in the latter seasons because they sped it up...

If the fans want closure, read the books... I won’t be...
 
Stewie said:
The bottom line is: the show ended how GRRM wants it to end. There may be a few changes from the books, of course the plot devices and character development got weaker in the latter seasons because they sped it up...

If the fans want closure, read the books... I won’t be...
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There is no closure there as well. Not expected anytime soon either. A lot of people also complain that they left the books somewhere around 4th or 5th book as the things get dragging and it becomes more of the same without any closure in sight.
 
Stewie said:
The bottom line is: the show ended how GRRM wants it to end. There may be a few changes from the books, of course the plot devices and character development got weaker in the latter seasons because they sped it up...

If the fans want closure, read the books... I won’t be...
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Here's the thing I think Bran getting the throne didn't need to be a bad thing...it could have been a great ending if they had used Bran as this master puppeteer who was in the shadows and manipulated events so he could eventually take power...

Maybe this is how the books will develop things...

But Bran had 0 character development...it would be akin to the White King taking the throne...we know nothing about him...

Had Bran been this evil genius that they developed then it would have been great...but frankly he's so mysterious that we don't know who he is...this makes the ending weak...
 
Bran the broken, as the King was the weakest scene in the finale , not necessarily because of his election but how dialogues were written and the overall mood.
There were unnecessary jokes which were awful considering the bitter environment that was earlier generated with Dany, Jon and Drogon's fate.
 
i genuinely cannot even describe the 2nd half of that, at ties i felt i was watching friends. this is gae of thrones people, game of freaking thrones, where, even with the downfall of writing, just 1 episode prior was dealing with mass genocide.

why the hell are they inserting comic relief into the most pivotal scene of the entire thing? why are they inserting cringe inducing speeches so cringey they felt at home in a saturday morning kids cartoon about friendship? why are they butchering the tone of this episode, let aloen series, so badly by going from regicide in one scene to a literal joker attempting to claim the throne the next?

why is the final scene straight from a sitcom? all it needed was a laughtrack. i was genuinely dumbfounded, i mean it was funny, some huour is fine, but jesus christ this is the ending to game of thrones, one of the bloodiest, most cut throat shows going, and they end it with this?

bran as king is just, i mean what? why would any of the kingdoms accept this, why would the unsullied not have butchered tyrion the moment they realised he had conspired with jon to kill dany, why would the unsullied, devoted to their queen to the point of regicide, not instantly butcher jon, or the dothraki do it, when they vastly outnumbered the north's troops and their literal reason for freedom had been murdered within a day of her reign?

if the secen kingdoms would not accept dany as she was a woman and jon the rightful heir, why on earth accept a cripple. the got way would have been for scheming, plotting, dashes for power, not this out of completely left field suggestion to be accepted by everybody within five seconds. the iron islands go from threatening the starks to pledging fealty to a crippled one within five seconds.

not to mention the sheer nonsense of whoever randomly turned up suddenly getting to decide who's king. where were the other kingdoms, knights, maesters. houses. i guess whoever was fortunate enough to click "interested" on the "appoint bran" facebook event got to vote or something? it was like the ending to a light hearted kids film.

ah i dont know. again every single aspect bar the writing is a solid 9 or 10 so i hate to even complain this much but its ompletely ripped me from the immersion and after they got me back for the first half after i accepted what had happened prior, it just went into bad fan fiction territory. sam tarley, didnt he renounce all claims to his family name, titles etc when he joined the nights watch, then again when he joined the maesters?? why is this awful awful character, who i originally liked, constantly forced into situations like battles and here where he has zero to add for the sake of a cheap laugh at the fat idiot guy, or to cry and get better characters killed saving his worthless behind?

ultimately this is game of thrones, a series that thrived on setting up "good" characters and slitting their throats over and over again. subversion of the best kind, instead they went for the worst, cheap surprised and a nice happy little ending. arya spent her entire arc about revenge and reuniting with her family only to abandon it and abandon her family with zero prompting. this is a show that built up the starks for four entire seasons and slit 90% of them in one epic fifteen minute scene ending with the happiest ending possible where a world of selfish, blood thirsty, power hungry individuals was replaced with a society so progressive it'd make modern san francisco blush within one episode. these people just witnessed the seat of power burnt to the ground in an evening and they rock up cracking jokes and treating it like a student election? then everyone say "aye" one by one for the sake of a cool shoit even if it makes absolutely no sense? why the hell would any of these families even listen to tyrion anyway, much as i love the man, he's a a lannister, their sworn enemy, and b the advisor of the person who nearly burnt down the entire damn continent. why was he even removed from his cell in the first place *** surely jon is way more important.

and jons fate is just stupid. you mean to tell me the unsullied are happy with the man who butchered their living idol being sent away? after wanting him dead? and the starks are just gonna let that happen? why? why did that even happen. why in gods green earth would the starks let their brother, who literally saved the entire kingdom from slaughter, be exiled, again, to keep a slave army happy? why are the unsullied even needed, they literally just leave anyway, why would their threats be taken seriously? bran has 7 kingdoms of army at his disposal why fear what can only be a couple thousand weary slave fighters.

sorry for sounding like a broken record. but this show ended badly. i cannot believe they just played the "starks are king now" angle straight without even hinting at scheming. and if the north have suddenly just been granted independence, why in gods green earth would the other6 6 kingdoms stick around, what possible benefit does it give. and if bran is from the north, surely with their cessation he just lost his claim to the throne? and give over with this "all leaders are chosen now" **, game of freaking thrones ending with us style elections? for christs sakes.

im erasing this season from my memory. show ended when jaime left cersei at end of s7.

bronn, cersei, jaime, brienne, podrick, tormund. all characters who even the biggest fans cannot argue against the fact that they were absolutely butchered, butchered beyond description, with either zero screentime, stupid decisions or both. awful. gutted honestly.

loved this show to pieces and when it ended i just sat there and it got absolutely nothing out of me. no emotion, no sadness, no happiness, it just went and died in the middle of the night somewhere. the end.

just gutted. what an incredible waste of potential.

still a good show, but this season has notched it down significantly to me, from an easy 9 or 10 to a 7.
 
ai only just finished it, its still sinking in, i still cant believe its actually happened.

its like the 2007 wc for you guys. it had such build up, a great plot unravelling, all hype, then bam, suddenly over, banished to the part of your brain that desperately treis to erase it but cant due to the build up and hype.

i saw detective pikachu saturday night and it had better character moments than this
 
So, probably this is going to be the end of ASOIAF story on TV, for all ages to come. LOTR's TV adaptation is being worked upon but another adaptation of GOT as movies like LOTR looks impossible because of sheer volume and length of the story, unless they make 8-10 parts instead of a trilogy.

It was originally the success of LOTR which inspired people to invest on fantasy adaptation and now GOT has triggered a lot of fantasy adaptations on TV. Probably, in few years we will have another great fantasy story as TV series. The work on His Dark Materials is already complete. Then people are working on The Wheel Of Time, Witchers and LOTR.
 
waqar goraya said:
So, probably this is going to be the end of ASOIAF story on TV, for all ages to come. LOTR's TV adaptation is being worked upon but another adaptation of GOT as movies like LOTR looks impossible because of sheer volume and length of the story, unless they make 8-10 parts instead of a trilogy.

It was originally the success of LOTR which inspired people to invest on fantasy adaptation and now GOT has triggered a lot of fantasy adaptations on TV. Probably, in few years we will have another great fantasy story as TV series. The work on His Dark Materials is already complete. Then people are working on The Wheel Of Time, Witchers and LOTR.
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Donal Cozzie said:
ai only just finished it, its still sinking in, i still cant believe its actually happened.

its like the 2007 wc for you guys. it had such build up, a great plot unravelling, all hype, then bam, suddenly over, banished to the part of your brain that desperately treis to erase it but cant due to the build up and hype.

i saw detective pikachu saturday night and it had better character moments than this
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And I watched a lesser known Line of Duty season 3 yesterday. It was very good.

Nevertheless, the score at the very end until end credits was awesome. It still reminded me some of the golden past, particularly the scene when Drogon rescued Danny from the pit. :(

Before the start of 8th season GOT was ranked 2nd on IMDB top TV show list. It has come down at 6 after this accident.
 
normally completely ignore ratings but the last three episode for this are on 5.8, 6.4 and 4.5 respectively.

bit of exaggeration as expected but honestly i can understand the anger
 
Donal Cozzie said:
normally completely ignore ratings but the last three episode for this are on 5.8, 6.4 and 4.5 respectively.

bit of exaggeration as expected but honestly i can understand the anger
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I used to ignore ratings from fans as well, and only looked at critics review, but after star wars episode 8 i reversed course and only trust the audience score. The ratings are fine if anything i feel audience gave them the benefit of the doubt on some of the other episodes hoping everything would tie in by finale.
 
People are mostly disappointed not because of how it ended but how they got there. The last 3 episodes could have easily been 10 episodes. But the writers rushed it so they can move on.

They did an awful job building Dany as the "Mad Queen", that would justify Jon killing her. By sacking Kings Landing she was not any different than other leader in Westeros, maybe with the exception of the Starks. Tywin, Stannis, Cersei, Yara, etc would have all done the same thing if they had a dragon. Same thing with killling the Tarly's she gave them a chance to bend the knee they refused, and the killing of the pow is not that surprising in a war.

If anything she is more like Stannis, stern but fair, than the Mad King.

They could have had Dany decide to break the wheel and replace the hereditary lords of the other kingdoms and have the people choose their own leaders, but Tyrion convinces Jon kills her to avoid further war. This could have made her a tragic hero.

Or if they wanted to show her becoming "Mad" they could have changed the story to have her capture Cersei alive, and have her rapped by hundreds of Dothraki, and she could have had Tyrion crucified as a message for traitors, she could have threatened to reduce to ash any of the seven Kingdoms who do not bend the knee. Jon could have killed her then to save the other Kingdoms.
 
One of the things which didn't ring true for me in last night's episode was the Sansa Queen of the North epilogue. There were hints of it in the previous series that is true, but it just wasn't portrayed convincingly.

When Bran was declared King of the 7 kingdoms, everyone else happily fell in line and said Aye. So we had the weird situation where the Starks are totally dominant and the North has been established as the seat of power, yet the only one to dissent was Sansa, who is Bran's sister. When the Starks have won, what exactly was the purpose of independence?

Maybe if and when Martin gets round to finishing the books it will make more sense, but I don't think they did it justice in the tv show.
 
Donal Cozzie said:
i genuinely cannot even describe the 2nd half of that, at ties i felt i was watching friends. this is gae of thrones people, game of freaking thrones, where, even with the downfall of writing, just 1 episode prior was dealing with mass genocide.

why the hell are they inserting comic relief into the most pivotal scene of the entire thing? why are they inserting cringe inducing speeches so cringey they felt at home in a saturday morning kids cartoon about friendship? why are they butchering the tone of this episode, let aloen series, so badly by going from regicide in one scene to a literal joker attempting to claim the throne the next?

why is the final scene straight from a sitcom? all it needed was a laughtrack. i was genuinely dumbfounded, i mean it was funny, some huour is fine, but jesus christ this is the ending to game of thrones, one of the bloodiest, most cut throat shows going, and they end it with this?

bran as king is just, i mean what? why would any of the kingdoms accept this, why would the unsullied not have butchered tyrion the moment they realised he had conspired with jon to kill dany, why would the unsullied, devoted to their queen to the point of regicide, not instantly butcher jon, or the dothraki do it, when they vastly outnumbered the north's troops and their literal reason for freedom had been murdered within a day of her reign?

if the secen kingdoms would not accept dany as she was a woman and jon the rightful heir, why on earth accept a cripple. the got way would have been for scheming, plotting, dashes for power, not this out of completely left field suggestion to be accepted by everybody within five seconds. the iron islands go from threatening the starks to pledging fealty to a crippled one within five seconds.

not to mention the sheer nonsense of whoever randomly turned up suddenly getting to decide who's king. where were the other kingdoms, knights, maesters. houses. i guess whoever was fortunate enough to click "interested" on the "appoint bran" facebook event got to vote or something? it was like the ending to a light hearted kids film.

ah i dont know. again every single aspect bar the writing is a solid 9 or 10 so i hate to even complain this much but its ompletely ripped me from the immersion and after they got me back for the first half after i accepted what had happened prior, it just went into bad fan fiction territory. sam tarley, didnt he renounce all claims to his family name, titles etc when he joined the nights watch, then again when he joined the maesters?? why is this awful awful character, who i originally liked, constantly forced into situations like battles and here where he has zero to add for the sake of a cheap laugh at the fat idiot guy, or to cry and get better characters killed saving his worthless behind?

ultimately this is game of thrones, a series that thrived on setting up "good" characters and slitting their throats over and over again. subversion of the best kind, instead they went for the worst, cheap surprised and a nice happy little ending. arya spent her entire arc about revenge and reuniting with her family only to abandon it and abandon her family with zero prompting. this is a show that built up the starks for four entire seasons and slit 90% of them in one epic fifteen minute scene ending with the happiest ending possible where a world of selfish, blood thirsty, power hungry individuals was replaced with a society so progressive it'd make modern san francisco blush within one episode. these people just witnessed the seat of power burnt to the ground in an evening and they rock up cracking jokes and treating it like a student election? then everyone say "aye" one by one for the sake of a cool shoit even if it makes absolutely no sense? why the hell would any of these families even listen to tyrion anyway, much as i love the man, he's a a lannister, their sworn enemy, and b the advisor of the person who nearly burnt down the entire damn continent. why was he even removed from his cell in the first place *** surely jon is way more important.

and jons fate is just stupid. you mean to tell me the unsullied are happy with the man who butchered their living idol being sent away? after wanting him dead? and the starks are just gonna let that happen? why? why did that even happen. why in gods green earth would the starks let their brother, who literally saved the entire kingdom from slaughter, be exiled, again, to keep a slave army happy? why are the unsullied even needed, they literally just leave anyway, why would their threats be taken seriously? bran has 7 kingdoms of army at his disposal why fear what can only be a couple thousand weary slave fighters.

sorry for sounding like a broken record. but this show ended badly. i cannot believe they just played the "starks are king now" angle straight without even hinting at scheming. and if the north have suddenly just been granted independence, why in gods green earth would the other6 6 kingdoms stick around, what possible benefit does it give. and if bran is from the north, surely with their cessation he just lost his claim to the throne? and give over with this "all leaders are chosen now" **, game of freaking thrones ending with us style elections? for christs sakes.

im erasing this season from my memory. show ended when jaime left cersei at end of s7.

bronn, cersei, jaime, brienne, podrick, tormund. all characters who even the biggest fans cannot argue against the fact that they were absolutely butchered, butchered beyond description, with either zero screentime, stupid decisions or both. awful. gutted honestly.

loved this show to pieces and when it ended i just sat there and it got absolutely nothing out of me. no emotion, no sadness, no happiness, it just went and died in the middle of the night somewhere. the end.

just gutted. what an incredible waste of potential.

still a good show, but this season has notched it down significantly to me, from an easy 9 or 10 to a 7.
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Stop crying frank lampard :)))
[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] They're not doing so well the leeds brigade lmao
 
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thelandofthebravepeople said:
You are so negative and annoying.

After every episode you come in and talk trash. We know you don't like it, but keep your negative energy to yourself.

I can understand people who come in and explain why they dislike it or how it could have been better. You just write trash comments without any constructive criticism and it's the same **** after every single episode. What is it you want to achieve?
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Very true, he is all hype no substance just a movie expert poser, this what you expect from a big DC fan / Karachi-Canadian :yk2
 
Brienne writing Jamie's story was perfect. Actually got me more emotional than anything else in the episode.


It's clear that the last 2 seasons was rushed so that D&D could run to their Star Wars contract. I Reckon HBO will regret not bringing on new producers and taking this to 10 seasons.

However, while I don't think this season was as bad as people say it is.

In totality, though this show was magic, the only full TV show i have watched from start to finish, and at the end, the last episode satisfied me
 
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Cpt. Rishwat said:
One of the things which didn't ring true for me in last night's episode was the Sansa Queen of the North epilogue. There were hints of it in the previous series that is true, but it just wasn't portrayed convincingly.

When Bran was declared King of the 7 kingdoms, everyone else happily fell in line and said Aye. So we had the weird situation where the Starks are totally dominant and the North has been established as the seat of power, yet the only one to dissent was Sansa, who is Bran's sister. When the Starks have won, what exactly was the purpose of independence?

Maybe if and when Martin gets round to finishing the books it will make more sense, but I don't think they did it justice in the tv show.
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It made perfect sense to me. The common thread has been that the Northerners don’t want to be rules from down south and be part of the country. Their people have suffered enough and they are better off independent.

So it doesn’t matter who is king, Sansa represented her people and took a stance. Even if her brother is king, it’s the will of the people to secede and they did.
 
Stewie said:
It made perfect sense to me. The common thread has been that the Northerners don’t want to be rules from down south and be part of the country. Their people have suffered enough and they are better off independent.

So it doesn’t matter who is king, Sansa represented her people and took a stance. Even if her brother is king, it’s the will of the people to secede and they did.
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The north suffered under the Lannisters, and the Lannisters were defeated and wiped out, and a Stark was made king. Did Bran stop being a northerner once the crown was put on his head? What about Dorne? What about Highgardern? What about The Iron Islands? They didn't even get one of their own to sit on the throne yet all of them quickly signed up to the Stark reign and only Lady Stark wanted secession?

I'm sure there must be a plausible reason for it, but like I said, it wasn't very well portrayed in the show itself and perhaps Martin will do a better job if he ever gets round to completing it.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
The north suffered under the Lannisters, and the Lannisters were defeated and wiped out, and a Stark was made king. Did Bran stop being a northerner once the crown was put on his head? What about Dorne? What about Highgardern? What about The Iron Islands? They didn't even get one of their own to sit on the throne yet all of them quickly signed up to the Stark reign and only Lady Stark wanted secession?

I'm sure there must be a plausible reason for it, but like I said, it wasn't very well portrayed in the show itself and perhaps Martin will do a better job if he ever gets round to completing it.
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I guess you have to watch the first few seasons again to understand. To me, at least, it was clear as daylight. The North always had a tenuous relationship with King’s Landing. They have historically picked the Starks, I believe to represent them, a house the feel is honorable. Whereas, any of the other houses can have had a history of some indiscretion or another attached to them. And the Throne kind of kept switching between the houses and created political chaos and uncertainty in the realm, which was essentially run bankcrupt by Baratheon and his “ayyash” ways. The Starks were much better organized, sensible and better rulers.

Even though it’s Bran Stark as king, things can change and the council can vote someone from a different house to be king once Bran dies or stops being king. It’s exactly this uncertainty that the Northerners guard against and all the bannermen and their houses had clearly indicated they dont want to be under the center’s control.

That’s how I saw it... feel free to disagree.
 
Stewie said:
I guess you have to watch the first few seasons again to understand. To me, at least, it was clear as daylight. The North always had a tenuous relationship with King’s Landing. They have historically picked the Starks, I believe to represent them, a house the feel is honorable. Whereas, any of the other houses can have had a history of some indiscretion or another attached to them. And the Throne kind of kept switching between the houses and created political chaos and uncertainty in the realm, which was essentially run bankcrupt by Baratheon and his “ayyash” ways. The Starks were much better organized, sensible and better rulers.

Even though it’s Bran Stark as king, things can change and the council can vote someone from a different house to be king once Bran dies or stops being king. It’s exactly this uncertainty that the Northerners guard against and all the bannermen and their houses had clearly indicated they dont want to be under the center’s control.

That’s how I saw it... feel free to disagree.
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Mate those views are mighty suspicious, and with a moniker like Stewie, I'm sensing you have some Scottish history there. Views of northerners not trusting shifty southerners sounds suspiciously similar to Scottish secessionist talk with regard to her Majesty's England.

You sure you aren't seeing this through tartan specs?
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Brienne writing Jamie's story was perfect. Actually got me more emotional than anything else in the episode.


It's clear that the last 2 seasons was rushed so that D&D could run to their Star Wars contract. I Reckon HBO will regret not bringing on new producers and taking this to 10 seasons.

However, while I don't think this season was as bad as people say it is.

In totality, though this show was magic, the only full TV show i have watched from start to finish, and at the end, the last episode satisfied me
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I was hoping for Brienne to turn and see a page about herself. The very first lady knight.
 
Now that the show is over and I can wait for our old friend to write the last two books, I don't want to say much now. However, I will add my last few cents. When the spoiler of Bran taking the crown was leaked, I thought it was a joke, but now that it has panned out, I don't think it was a terrible way of ending the series.

People have heavy emotional investment in this series and everyone had pictured a dream ending in their heads, and it is normal for them to be disappointed when they show diverted from their ideals.

Some wanted Jon to be the king with Drogon on his side, others wanted Daenerys, others wanted Jon and Daenerys to marry and rule together etc. etc., but one thing that we have learned from the show and the books that in this world, you never get what you want - sometimes you get less, sometimes you get more, but you never get what you want.

Considering Daenerys' struggle, there was never a chance of her sitting on the Iron Throne, and although Jon never wanted power, he was too much of a hero to have that kind of an ending. Making Bran the king was the most ASOIAF/GOT ending one could have hoped for, and I do think it was the bittersweet ending that we were promised - the sweet bit was the survival of the Starks and their dominion in the North, and the bitter bits were the death of Daenerys, Jon's fate and the fact that Arya may never see her family and her home again.

Since chapter 1 of the books and the episode 1 of the show, the readers and the audience have fell in love with House Stark, and regardless of who sat on the Iron Throne, the Starks needed to have a powerful, successful (not necessarily happy) ending.

The complaints regarding the pacing are of course valid. The decision of making Bran king, which was ultimately the most important moment of the saga and the final conclusion needed more than just a buildup of 5 minutes. Since they were short on time, they was no genuine buildup and it came completely out of the blue.

Unexpected things have always happened in this world, but there is always heavy foreshadowing for those who can put two and two together, but there was hardly any buildup for Bran ascension to the throne because of time constraint. The episode itself was brilliant save for the small council at the end which was an abomination.

Tyrion find Jamie and Cersie, Drogon burning down the Iron Throne, Jon and Tyrion conversion & Jon and Arya farewell are some of the greatest scenes/moments in the show's history, and that is why I am not concerned about the rating on IMDb. Most people are narrow-minded and tend to overlook the finer details.

I have made some very wrong predictions about the story, but there is one thing I got right. I was certain that the Iron Throne would not survive, but I wasn't sure if it will be burned by the dragons or Cersei will set King's Landing on wildfire after realising that she has lost the Game of Thrones. I had hoped for the former, and I am glad that is how it panned out.

All in all, we are all privileged to have been part of the Game of Thrones generation. It has revolutionised the fantasy genre and we are going to see further adaptions of other great fantasy works in the future, and they will all aim to replicate its success which will be almost impossible. Every future fantasy show will be compared with the Game of Thrones, and they will find it very hard to step out if its shadow.

People can criticise them all the want, but D&D have done a brilliant job in bringing this wonderful story to screen which would have daunted and overwhelmed many producers. Season 7 and 8 had its lows, but once the euphoria and hype is over, it will be remembered for its best moments.

For most people, it is and will remain the greatest tv show of all time. Of course many will contest that statement, but its mass appeal will always overpower other shows that might have had more success with the criticism and the non-conventual audience.

All good things must come to an end, and now our watch has ended.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Mate those views are mighty suspicious, and with a moniker like Stewie, I'm sensing you have some Scottish history there. Views of northerners not trusting shifty southerners sounds suspiciously similar to Scottish secessionist talk with regard to her Majesty's England.

You sure you aren't seeing this through tartan specs?
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Oye kissi filasfer deya chamcheya, mein punjabi aan.

I just like Family Guy.
 
Mamoon said:
Now that the show is over and I can wait for our old friend to write the last two books, I don't want to say much now. However, I will add my last few cents. When the spoiler of Bran taking the crown was leaked, I thought it was a joke, but now that it has panned out, I don't think it was a terrible way of ending the series.

People have heavy emotional investment in this series and everyone had pictured a dream ending in their heads, and it is normal for them to be disappointed when they show diverted from their ideals.

Some wanted Jon to be the king with Drogon on his side, others wanted Daenerys, others wanted Jon and Daenerys to marry and rule together etc. etc., but one thing that we have learned from the show and the books that in this world, you never get what you want - sometimes you get less, sometimes you get more, but you never get what you want.

Considering Daenerys' struggle, there was never a chance of her sitting on the Iron Throne, and although Jon never wanted power, he was too much of a hero to have that kind of an ending. Making Bran the king was the most ASOIAF/GOT ending one could have hoped for, and I do think it was the bittersweet ending that we were promised - the sweet bit was the survival of the Starks and their dominion in the North, and the bitter bits were the death of Daenerys, Jon's fate and the fact that Arya may never see her family and her home again.

Since chapter 1 of the books and the episode 1 of the show, the readers and the audience have fell in love with House Stark, and regardless of who sat on the Iron Throne, the Starks needed to have a powerful, successful (not necessarily happy) ending.

The complaints regarding the pacing are of course valid. The decision of making Bran king, which was ultimately the most important moment of the saga and the final conclusion needed more than just a buildup of 5 minutes. Since they were short on time, they was no genuine buildup and it came completely out of the blue.

Unexpected things have always happened in this world, but there is always heavy foreshadowing for those who can put two and two together, but there was hardly any buildup for Bran ascension to the throne because of time constraint. The episode itself was brilliant save for the small council at the end which was an abomination.

Tyrion find Jamie and Cersie, Drogon burning down the Iron Throne, Jon and Tyrion conversion & Jon and Arya farewell are some of the greatest scenes/moments in the show's history, and that is why I am not concerned about the rating on IMDb. Most people are narrow-minded and tend to overlook the finer details.

I have made some very wrong predictions about the story, but there is one thing I got right. I was certain that the Iron Throne would not survive, but I wasn't sure if it will be burned by the dragons or Cersei will set King's Landing on wildfire after realising that she has lost the Game of Thrones. I had hoped for the former, and I am glad that is how it panned out.

All in all, we are all privileged to have been part of the Game of Thrones generation. It has revolutionised the fantasy genre and we are going to see further adaptions of other great fantasy works in the future, and they will all aim to replicate its success which will be almost impossible. Every future fantasy show will be compared with the Game of Thrones, and they will find it very hard to step out if its shadow.

People can criticise them all the want, but D&D have done a brilliant job in bringing this wonderful story to screen which would have daunted and overwhelmed many producers. Season 7 and 8 had its lows, but once the euphoria and hype is over, it will be remembered for its best moments.

For most people, it is and will remain the greatest tv show of all time. Of course many will contest that statement, but its mass appeal will always overpower other shows that might have had more success with the criticism and the non-conventual audience.

All good things must come to an end, and now our watch has ended.
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Bravo! Much more sensible post now..
yes, people have been throwing hissy fits because they didn’t get the ending “they wanted”...

But if you think over it, I think all of it made perfect sense... except a tad bit regarding Snow’s supposed punishment. But this is how it should have ended. And it did. No complaints!!! Well done!
 
Time for rating the whole series?

My rating: 9/10

Yes I was disappointed with last two seasons. Despite knowing how it was gonna end, I still wasn't prepared for how mediocre the acting was in the last episode; how unconvincing the dialogue and whole scenario was portrayed. But that doesn't take away from the fact that it will arguably be the most influential show of all time. It will pave the way for several high budget productions on the small screen. We have already started seeing big productions in pipeline (His Dark Material, planned LOTR series, GOT spin off to name a few) and all that thanks to success of GOT. Needless to say, first 3 or 4 seasons were the best that TV has to offer.

I invite everyone to objectively rate the whole series out of 10.
 
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9.4/10 is my rating for the series as a whole.

Good post [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION].
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Been watching the whole thing again while it's on Sky box office, and have to say, the first 6 seasons were different class. The final two episodes of season 6 with the Battle of the B******s, and The Winds of Winter were the culmination of some of the best fantasy drama you are ever likely to see. When in the final scenes John Snow is being hailed King in the North, Cersei is taking the Iron Throne in King's Landing, and Danaerys is sailing a fleet of ships to Westeros to claim her crown with three dragons flying above....it didn't get any better than that.
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I cannot think of a better single episode of television than The Winds of Winter.
 
Actually there are a couple of plausible reasons why Sansa would want independence despite the Starks sitting on the throne (figuratively speaking) at the end. Meera did say when she was shocked by Bran's coldness that he had died back in the cave, so was he even still really a Stark?

But more realistically, Sansa just wanted to be queen. Arya almost said as much when she accused her of undermining Jon and noting that she had taken over their parents room and observing she had always liked nice things.


Anyway my rating for GOT. First 6 seasons 9/10. Last 2 seasons 5/10. Not because I was emotionally invested with the characters - I was - but that was the case in the first 6 series as well when many favourites were killed off. I found the last two seasons disappointing, particularly the final one because they were rushed and badly done. Watch them altogether and it becomes even more evident.
 
If they didn't want to go beyond 8 seasons then s7 and s8 should have been 10 eps each as well that would have meant 7 additional episodes which would have allowed plenty of time to make things more organic. Afaik HBO had offered as much time and episodes as necessary but D&D in their infinite wisdom chose only 13 episodes for last couple of seasons. Most likely so they can join Star Wars in time? Shameful really if that is the case.

Drogon aside (most of Drogon’s scenes were beautifully done I thought) it’s just sad what they did this season. Real sad. A lot of it felt forced and illogical or just sheer cop outs in order to get to the finish line. Series finale was pretty much the final low blow. In the end I guess there’s nothing deep and thoughtful about any of it. Maybe all along Bran just wanted King's Landing to be rebuilt with disability compliance or something. Eight years down the drain just like that.

Overall went from 4.5 Chows to a paltry 3 Chows after this season for me.

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I'm just gonna pretend that Drogon came back and killed them all.
 
James said:
I cannot think of a better single episode of television than The Winds of Winter.
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It was magnificent, from start to finish. I forgot how much happened in it actually until I watched it again. You think following the Battle of the B*****ds that not much is going to top that, but the final episode just crams in scene after scene of pivotal moments.

Starting with the trial of Floras, the use of street waifs, or little birds if you like to assassinate the old Maester and set off the wildfire. Marjery's sensing what was going on and discarding her pretence of fawning to the shocked High Sparrow and letting loose with a volley of abuse. All the way through to that finale where the rivals for the throne head to Westeros for the final showdown. It really was a work of art.
 
Sirris said:
I was hoping for Brienne to turn and see a page about herself. The very first lady knight.
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I’m glad that she made it to the last reel.

Other than the Tyrion and Dany stories, this show was all about The Journey of the Hero for Ned’s kids - scattered at the end of season one, learning and coming into their power, and finally returning home to set the land to rights.
 
Mamoon said:
Now that the show is over and I can wait for our old friend to write the last two books, I don't want to say much now. However, I will add my last few cents. When the spoiler of Bran taking the crown was leaked, I thought it was a joke, but now that it has panned out, I don't think it was a terrible way of ending the series.

People have heavy emotional investment in this series and everyone had pictured a dream ending in their heads, and it is normal for them to be disappointed when they show diverted from their ideals.

Some wanted Jon to be the king with Drogon on his side, others wanted Daenerys, others wanted Jon and Daenerys to marry and rule together etc. etc., but one thing that we have learned from the show and the books that in this world, you never get what you want - sometimes you get less, sometimes you get more, but you never get what you want.

Considering Daenerys' struggle, there was never a chance of her sitting on the Iron Throne, and although Jon never wanted power, he was too much of a hero to have that kind of an ending. Making Bran the king was the most ASOIAF/GOT ending one could have hoped for, and I do think it was the bittersweet ending that we were promised - the sweet bit was the survival of the Starks and their dominion in the North, and the bitter bits were the death of Daenerys, Jon's fate and the fact that Arya may never see her family and her home again.

Since chapter 1 of the books and the episode 1 of the show, the readers and the audience have fell in love with House Stark, and regardless of who sat on the Iron Throne, the Starks needed to have a powerful, successful (not necessarily happy) ending.

The complaints regarding the pacing are of course valid. The decision of making Bran king, which was ultimately the most important moment of the saga and the final conclusion needed more than just a buildup of 5 minutes. Since they were short on time, they was no genuine buildup and it came completely out of the blue.

Unexpected things have always happened in this world, but there is always heavy foreshadowing for those who can put two and two together, but there was hardly any buildup for Bran ascension to the throne because of time constraint. The episode itself was brilliant save for the small council at the end which was an abomination.

Tyrion find Jamie and Cersie, Drogon burning down the Iron Throne, Jon and Tyrion conversion & Jon and Arya farewell are some of the greatest scenes/moments in the show's history, and that is why I am not concerned about the rating on IMDb. Most people are narrow-minded and tend to overlook the finer details.

I have made some very wrong predictions about the story, but there is one thing I got right. I was certain that the Iron Throne would not survive, but I wasn't sure if it will be burned by the dragons or Cersei will set King's Landing on wildfire after realising that she has lost the Game of Thrones. I had hoped for the former, and I am glad that is how it panned out.

All in all, we are all privileged to have been part of the Game of Thrones generation. It has revolutionised the fantasy genre and we are going to see further adaptions of other great fantasy works in the future, and they will all aim to replicate its success which will be almost impossible. Every future fantasy show will be compared with the Game of Thrones, and they will find it very hard to step out if its shadow.

People can criticise them all the want, but D&D have done a brilliant job in bringing this wonderful story to screen which would have daunted and overwhelmed many producers. Season 7 and 8 had its lows, but once the euphoria and hype is over, it will be remembered for its best moments.

For most people, it is and will remain the greatest tv show of all time. Of course many will contest that statement, but its mass appeal will always overpower other shows that might have had more success with the criticism and the non-conventual audience.

All good things must come to an end, and now our watch has ended.
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While I agree with most of this, I disagree with the bold part. These 2 seasons will forever be a stain on this shows legacy. Just like other epics like Lost (although this is a much better show overall). I feel like this post is made in emotion since the show just ended.

Unfortunately, Game of Thrones will not go down as a classic like The Wire. This is coming from someone who had heavy emotional and time investment in it.

The biggest tragedy in television history
 
The show was a solid 9-9.5/10 until season 6. Now I cannot give it more than an 8. Something with 2 disastrous last seasons simply will not go down as a classsic. Although I suppose it’s possible to ignore the last 2 seasons but that’s not how it works
 
8.7 i say. Up until season 4 it was 9.8 for me. Got down to 9.2 till we reached season 6. Now after 8 seasons it is 8.7 for me.
 
I thought finale was amazing! People are going to complain regardless. I am glad it didn't get a predictable/boring ending. Power and greed of Thrones was making existing rulers evil, so if they were to go with democratically elected King, then the wise among the rest does makes sense. The ruler doesn't get to sit on the cursed/melted Thrones (and he physically can't lol).

Overall season 8 wasn't the best of them, as it seemed rushed and there were some silly bongies, but episode 3 with Night King war and finale how Tyrion (most intriguing and cherished GOT character) getting the most deserving screen time were completely worth it. He made Jon Snow kill Dany to stop the legacy and curse of evil throne and convinced the panel to select Bran the Broken as a compromise for for eternal peace and someone who knew it all. It also kind of shows that Bran knew it all and yet didn't take the evil route to sit on the iron throne.
 
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