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Kick It Out brands Craig Overton’s cricket ban ‘outrageous’

•*Overton’s remarks ‘clearly racially offensive’ says chairman Herman Ouseley*
•*Somerset player was handed a level one punishment



Herman Ouseley, the chairman of football’s Kick it Out campaign and a prominent opponent of racism in sport, has described the punishment handed down to Somerset’s Craig Overton as “outrageous” and questioned the message it has sent to cricket.

Overton,*as revealed by the Guardian on Thursday, was heard telling Sussex’s Pakistan-born all-rounder Ashar Zaidi to “go back to your own ****ing country” during a county match at Hove in September, with the cricket discipline commission going on to hand down a level one breach – the lowest in the directives.

While Zaidi told match officials he had not been aware of the alleged abuse, which Overton also subsequently denied, both the umpire Alex Wharf and the Sussex batsman Michael Yardy – who was at the non-striker’s end – detailed the incident in writing, with their evidence forwarded on to the CDC by the England and Wales*Cricket*Board.

Lord Ouseley believes that the words reported by Wharf and Yardy clearly go beyond the eventual level one breach that was issued and meant Overton had triggered an automatic two-match suspension because of previous disciplinary breaches on his record; had it been clean, a simple reprimand would have followed.

While the more serious level three breach, the first of the four in the*ECB*directives that covers racist language, would not have seen the size of Overton’s automatic ban increase, Ouseley claims it should still have been applied and a further sanction added, as is possible with any level of breach. Ouseley told the Guardian: “My personal view would be that it seems quite outrageous; that the punishment does not fit the offence and that clearly at least a category three sanction should have been applied in this instance. It’s not only serious abuse and misconduct, it is clearly racially offensive.

I would expect that if it was in football, that person would be getting a very heavy sanction. If cricket wants to maintain a reputation of credibility it should nip something like this in the bud and make it clear that it is not going to tolerate it.

“If a decision seems quite outrageously wrong, then the ECB could appeal and that goes to another panel. In appealing, and voicing its displeasure at the verdict, it can send the message that there should be zero tolerance of such discriminatory conduct.”

While Overton was withdrawn from the match by*Somerset*after the incident on day one, he was still named as part of the England performance programme – their winter training camp for players considered next in line for international selection – two days after the incident took place and two days before the CDC announced its verdict. The ECB has denied any interference and maintained its satisfaction at the decision reached by the commission, citing the body’s independent status. But Ouseley has questioned whether Overton’s inclusion in an international training camp was appropriate, while also querying how umpires will view the result of his case.

“If the ECB felt the decision was not one that helped them promote the game in a non-discriminatory way, it shouldn’t give encouragement to the individual through being selected to go on tour and representing the country. There are all sorts of issues here that could be challenged. The message it sends to umpires is also not a good one; it suggests that, even if they report such types of abuse – as the official in this instance did – a proper sanction does not follow. It might lead them to question if it is worth doing so in future.”

Yorkshire, meanwhile, are understood to have sought clarification from the ECB over the handling of the Overton case, after their own captain,*Andrew Gale, was banned for four matches in 2014*for telling Lancashire’s South African batsman, Ashwell Prince, to “**** off back to your own country, you Kolpak ****er”.

Gale was found to have committed a level two breach that triggered an automatic two-match ban for having previous offences on his record, only for a further two games to be added after the ECB requested further action be taken. Privately the club believe double standards to be at play, although the ECB insists the two incidents differ greatly in circumstance.

Yorkshire head coach Jason Gillespie told the Guardian: “As a club we are not commenting but speaking personally, I would be surprised if the ECB didn’t look into this a bit further.”

Amazing double standards from ECB.So its lesser of an offence to racially abuse a South Asian (or Pakistan) person than it is to do to an African person

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/dec/11/kick-it-out-herman-ouseley-cricket-craig-overton-ecb

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-abusive-language-somerset-ashar-zaidi-sussex
 
The England and Wales*Cricket*Board has defended its disciplinary procedure after it emerged the promising English seamer Craig Overton was found to have told Sussex’s Pakistan-born batsman Ashar Zaidi to “go back to your own ****ing country” during a county match last season.

Overton, who came close to selection forEngland’s winter Test tour to South Africa, was reported to have made the remark by both the umpire Alex Wharf, at the bowler’s end, and the non-striking batsman Michael Yardy in the 57th over of*Somerset’s four-day Division One match away to Sussex*at Hove which began on 14 September.

The Guardian understands Wharf included this in his report, with Yardy giving a written statement in support. Zaidi, who was playing for*Sussex*on his British passport before being released by the club at the end of the season, told the match officials he had not heard anything beyond the “usual” comments that did not upset him.

Sent the evidence from Yardy and Wharf by the ECB, the Cricket Discipline Commission went on to give Overton a level one breach for using abusive language, the lowest of the four in the*ECB*directives. A level three breach is the first that covers “language that vilifies another person on the basis of race or national origin”.

The verdict stands in contrast with the case of Yorkshire’s captain, Andrew Gale, in 2014, in which the ECB appealed for a longer ban after a similar exchange*between Gale and Lancashire’s South African batsman Ashwell Prince.

The announcement of the charge against Overton, which incurred an automatic two-match ban because of two previous minor offences on his record, came only two days after Overton had been named on England’s performance programme – the overseas winter training camp for players considered next in line for international selection.

Despite this squad being picked after the ECB had learned of the incident at Hove – but before his punishment was announced – the board has denied any suggestions that an emerging player on the radar of the selectors was spared the more serious level three breach.

An ECB spokesperson told the Guardian: “Following the incident, the on-field umpires sought advice from the ECB’s cricket department, who referred the matter directly to the chairman of the Cricket Discipline Commission, Mr Gerard Elias, QC.

“After reviewing the umpires’ report, the chairman of the CDC gave clear guidance that this should be reported as a level one offence and that no further action would be taken by the CDC. The automatic penalty for a level one offence was subsequently applied and this took Craig Overton to nine points, the threshold for an automatic suspension.

“The Cricket Discipline Commission is an independent body which operates at arm’s length from the ECB.

“Craig Overton’s selection for the EPP squad would have played no part whatsoever in the CDC’s ruling in this matter. The ECB refutes any suggestion of interference or bias in the proper disciplinary process.”

Overton, who denied Wharf and Yardy’s claim in his submission, sat out Somerset’s final match of the season and will miss his side’s 2016 opener at Durham.

With this ban akin to chalking up points on a driving licence, a previously clear record for Overton would have seen this incident met with only a reprimand.

The issue has raised the questions over consistency in punishments handed out by the CDC, as well as the ECB’s response. In 2014, Gale was banned for two matches after telling Prince to “**** off back to your own country, you Kolpak ****er”, only for the ECB to complain to the CDC about Gale’s conduct and see this suspension extended by a further two games as a result.

Gale was also*barred from lifting the County Championship trophy*at Trent Bridge when Yorkshire sealed the title that September, a decision that continues to rankle at the club, despite their successful defence last summer in which he*finally got his hands on the silverware.

There was no official response to the Overton case from Yorkshire but, privately, senior figures are concerned by what they perceive as double standards within the game.

Somerset*have declined to comment on the Hove incident publicly, although a club official told the Guardian that, in their view, it differed to that of Gale at Old Trafford as Overton had already turned away from the batsman, who did not hear it, while their player also denied the comment in his evidence.

In Overton’s case, according to documents seen by the Guardian, it was only Wharf and Yardy who heard the alleged comment. Yardy, batting with Zaidi at the time, challenged Overton’s use of language immediately, telling him: “You can’t say that”, with Wharf then consulting with his senior colleague Ian Gould at the end of the over.

Because of the nature of the comments, and without wanting to disrupt the game, they agreed to discuss the matter after the close of play before contacting the ECB head of cricket operations, Alan Fordham, at Lord’s, via telephone, to make him aware of the situation and request advice.

The following morning Wharf, Gould and the ECB cricket liaison officer, Graham Cowdrey, met Overton and Somerset’s head coach, Matthew Maynard, in the indoor school at Hove to outline the offence in person.

While Overton did not speak, Maynard suggested the comment could have been aimed at his own Somerset team-mate Tom Cooper, an Australian cricketer who plays for the club on a Dutch passport, following an earlier mis-field. Both were given a player conduct report in order to fill out the relevant player’s comments section.

After this meeting the umpires met Yardy, who provided a written statement in support of what Wharf reported he had heard on the field. Zaidi was then asked whether he had heard the words “go back to your own ****ing country” but replied that he had not heard anything beyond “the usual” comments.

Given the nature of the incident, Somerset advised Cowdrey that Overton would not take the field for the remainder of the match, with his 14th over, in which the incident took place, his final contribution; a 12th man replaced him, with the all-rounder’s absence later explained as a “hand injury”.

The player conduct report, completed by the umpires Wharf and Gould, and Yardy’s statement were then sent to Fordham at the ECB offices. From there, the day after the match concluded, the CDC announced, via a press release, that Overton had incurred a level one breach of the directives – “using language that is obscene, offensive or insulting and/or making an obscene gesture”.

With Overton having chalked up two previous offences in 2015 – the first for physical contact on the field away to Worcestershire in May, the second for abusive language in the match prior to the Hove incident, at home to Hampshire – he was automatically suspended for Somerset’s next two games. Uncapped Overton took 43 championship wickets last season as Somerset avoided relegation and was nominated for the PCA Young Player of the Year. He was recently revealed to have been “close” to being named for the upcoming Test tour to South Africa by the national selector, James Whitaker.

Speaking about the matter ahead of the tour, England captain Alastair Cook said: “Everyone knows the full responsibility you have when you pull on that shirt. You are under extra scrutiny, whether you’re with Somerset or England. Of course you want [players] to give everything for the cause but there’s a line you should not go past.”

Overton was one of seven emerging fast bowlers to feature in a 12-day England training camp in Potchefstroom, South Africa, in November before an elbow injury resulted in him being withdrawn from the current Lions squad playing in the ongoing Twenty20 series against Pakistan A in the United Arab Emirates.

Both he and his twin brother, the fast bowler Jamie Overton,*were added to the England one-day squad*that*beat New Zealand 3-2*in the early part of the summer but did not feature in the series.

From the moment the brothers began playing for Somerset, English cricket has eagerly anticipated the possibility that they could become the first twins to represent England in international cricket.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-abusive-language-somerset-ashar-zaidi-sussex
 
Nothing more demoralising than when you are not accepted. I've been on the receiving end of that statement, it's not very nice.
 
Nothing more demoralising than when you are not accepted. I've been on the receiving end of that statement, it's not very nice.

Its true guys. Because of Donald Trump, I've been getting a lot of ' Which country are you from' a lot more times for the last couple of weeks in chicago
 
What is the problem? The offending player was banned and the only reason his suspension was lesser than the other idiot's was because he didn't abuse Zaidi personally.

The ECB sees a difference between telling someone to go back to their F-ing country and telling someone to go back to their F-ing country and then calling them a Kolpak F-er.
 
Its true guys. Because of Donald Trump, I've been getting a lot of ' Which country are you from' a lot more times for the last couple of weeks in chicago

improve your English, body language, and tone of voice, and confidence, work out a lot, master game, and no one will say anything to you. In fact, they'll respect you for it and you'll ace job interviews.
 
Anyway, basically people have this issue in this modern day and age where they just HAVE to complain and present themselves as victims.

They will take any opportunity where they can do so and pretend like they are some ostracised hated victim.

I believe this is what's going on here.

There's a bit of a difference between telling someone to just go back to their own country and calling someone not only a Kolpak but also a you know what. If you can't see the difference in the two cases, then that's just really sad. Big difference.
 
This is what happens sometimes when you have too much talent. Mash Allah Pakistani players and players of Pakistani descent in Eng/Aus/SAF are blessed in all facets of the game, so it's only natural that they attract haters. Just look at how foreigners are out to get Amir already, can't fathom the talent on display.

Haters gonna hate, esp when you're this good.
 
This highlights a bigger problem IMHO. Players think (even club level) that they can get away with a lot in the name of sledging.

I havent played club cricket for a 7-8 years in the UK, but I remember in the mid noughties when I played a couple of seasons of club cricket, some cricketer's behaviour was really poor.

This sledging does need to be clamped on. Anything mildly racist, sexist, bigoted and personal insults should be punished. Sledging is fine but it needs to be have some boundaries.
 
improve your English, body language, and tone of voice, and confidence, work out a lot, master game, and no one will say anything to you. In fact, they'll respect you for it and you'll ace job interviews.

Unfortunately that's not the issue. I speak in American accent as I was brought up here. We have a family business so jobs are not an issue. My body is fine. My face is not white. Can't change that
 
Spoke with Ashar about this today.

Interesting views from him. Will most probably be in a newspaper tomorrow and/or Monday.
 
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not the first time this has happened and still steps are not taken to stop this.
 
Former Sussex spinner Ashar Zaidi has demanded an apology from Craig Overton after the Somerset bowler allegedly made a racist remark to him in a game in September.

Overton was this week banned for two matches after he was found guilty of a level-one breach of England and Wales Cricket Board regulations.

He had been reported for allegedly telling Pakistan-born Zaidi to "go back to your own ****ing country" while bowling at him during the County Championship game at Hove.

Overton denies making the comment and Zaidi did not hear it at the time, but it was reported by non-striker Mike Yardy and umpire Alex Wharf.

Zaidi told the Telegraph: "When I heard what had happened I was fuming, especially as that guy didn't have the decency to come and apologise afterwards.

"At the next day's play he didn't look me in the eye and didn't warm up with the rest of his team. Somerset officials came and spoke with me also.

"He owes me an apology. I've played all over England and never experienced such racist behaviour."

Overton's sanction was handed down by the Cricket Discipline Commission (CDC) - an independent arm of the ECB.

It contrasted with the level-two sanction and four-match ban given to Yorkshire captain Andrew Gale in 2014 for calling Lancashire's South African batsman Ashwell Prince a "Kolpak ******".

Yorkshire coach Jason Gillespie wrote on Twitter on Thursday night, after Overton's sanction was first reported: "There is a strong chance that @YorkshireCCC will be seeking clarification on this..............."

Zaidi said: "I'm not in a position to say whether he was treated leniently but I was very surprised at his penalty.

"I have no problem with sledging. It happens and we all do it but what he said was too much. It was surprising also as he played alongside (Pakistan international) Abdur Rehman at Somerset."

Source : http://www.skysports.com/cricket/ne...ds-apology-by-craig-overton-for-racist-remark
 
How did Zaidi not initially hear what Overton said and only realised afterwards ?
 
Well there's one guy whose career I hope miserably fails.

Glad to see Alastair Cook come out and condemn the idiot.
 
Ashgar Zaidi has performed quite well in BPL, a contender for man of the tournament actually. And that Overturn guy, nobody knows him i guess
 
It would be fine if he said "f..." country where he did not intend to insult Pakistan

But if he meant that Pakistan is a "....." then it would be rather disgraceful and i am pretty sure its the latter. NO tolerance
 
I was sledged once by an Indian when I used to play cricket in Year 10, my captain took 28 runs of his medium trundlers the next over. I took 4 wickets :warne later we shook hands but I could tell how embarrassed he felt
 
How did Zaidi not initially hear what Overton said and only realised afterwards ?

because he had his back to him and was near the non-striker and umpire when he made the remarks.

Full interview I did with Zaidi will be in the Telegraph in the next day or two.
 
improve your English, body language, and tone of voice, and confidence, work out a lot, master game, and no one will say anything to you. In fact, they'll respect you for it and you'll ace job interviews.

Mate if you have to change/improve your certain traits to get/earn the respect then it's not a good place to live to begin with.
 
Another shameful episode of an English cricketer making such statements and now part of the England squad.
 
The only thing one can hope is that this follows him for the rest of his playing career. Shameful racists deserve no forgiveness.
 
Where does the arrogance even come from? It's not like these England players in question will make the top-500 of all time.

They need imports to succeed, who are thankfully usually well behaved.
 
Weird considering England's team has been made up of South African born players, so the arrogance and ignorance of Overton's remarks are surprising to say the least.

Guess some will blame the victim of the slur because he's Pakistani...
 
Describing the incident, Zaidi, who did not hear the remark at the time, told the Telegraph: “When I heard what had happened [afterwards] I was fuming especially as that guy didn’t have the decency to come and apologise. At the next day’s play he didn’t look me in the eye and didn’t warm up with the rest of his team. He owes me an apology. I’ve played all over England and never experienced such racist behaviour. I’m not in a position to say if he was treated leniently, but I was very surprised. What he said was too much. It was surprising also as he played alongside Abdur Rehman at Somerset.”

I interviewed Zaidi for The Telegraph and he was naturally fuming with Overton.
 
I don't understand why this thread needs to be bumped from 6 years.
He made a mistake and got punished for it. If someone think because of that he should never be picked for national team, it's a joke.
 
Describing the incident, Zaidi, who did not hear the remark at the time, told the Telegraph: “When I heard what had happened [afterwards] I was fuming especially as that guy didn’t have the decency to come and apologise. At the next day’s play he didn’t look me in the eye and didn’t warm up with the rest of his team. He owes me an apology. I’ve played all over England and never experienced such racist behaviour. I’m not in a position to say if he was treated leniently, but I was very surprised. What he said was too much. It was surprising also as he played alongside Abdur Rehman at Somerset.”

I interviewed Zaidi for The Telegraph and he was naturally fuming with Overton.

I would be too. I hope Overton is reminded about his racist remark again and again!
 
I don't understand why this thread needs to be bumped from 6 years.
He made a mistake and got punished for it. If someone think because of that he should never be picked for national team, it's a joke.

He barely got a slap on the wrist.

Compare that with what happened to Sarfaraz.
 
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